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December 16, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
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The sports I bet I don't think about it too often.  I stay away from college betting because it would be too easy (and cheap) for someone to pay off one of the players since they really don't make a salary.  In the top US pro sports I'm not sure if it's worth it for them to even try.  I guess the worst one I've seen in awhile is in the NBA with the ref who was on the books of the mob Tim Donaghy I think it was.  Either way I don't think it's prevalent enough to worry about.

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December 16, 2023, 10:41:28 PM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.


What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Even as imaginary as it sounds, its still connected to reality. People have often stated concerns on how matches are either bought/sold or fixed, although there has not been an evidence as to physically seeing a match that is being sold, apart from suspicions and leads and corresponding actions of correction taken, I believe it happens often and many times than not.

If football is business then whatever pays can be applied, remember people need to be paid in order for the game to continue and the business running. If keeping the business means fixtures, I think it will be sustained even behind closed doors as the regulatory body frowns at it.

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December 16, 2023, 10:42:09 PM
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The reason I do not gamble with small leagues is because of match fixing, although I do not know if truly it is existing frequently there. I go for top leagues like the EPL, Seria A, Bundesliga, French Lique 1 and those like that.

But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Not a problem there. Just do not go for small leagues.

Do not try to think you can see some fixed matches, they are very hard to know and some people are using it to scam people.
Top leagues in big countries like the English Premiere League and the Spanish LaLiga aren't entirely free of match fixing, but probably have the local authorities investing more to counter any attempt to fix matches. But for example even in this year authorities in Spain found evidence of match fixing for matches in 2021 Copa and detained a few individuals involved with top teams. So it's not like it doesn't happen there either, it's just more rare probably end eventually there's justice. But as a person who simply places bets good luck finding justice after two years of investigations end  Grin

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December 16, 2023, 10:44:35 PM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Even as imaginary as it sounds, its still connected to reality. People have often stated concerns on how matches are either bought/sold or fixed, although there has not been an evidence as to physically seeing a match that is being sold, apart from suspicions and leads and corresponding actions of correction taken, I believe it happens often and many times than not.

If football is business then whatever pays can be applied, remember people need to be paid in order for the game to continue and the business running. If keeping the business means fixtures, I think it will be sustained even behind closed doors as the regulatory body frowns at it.

In my opinion, football is hard to fix because you can see their performance outside the field.
Also, like I've read here before, a local basketball league was caught about game fixing because of the obvious performance inside the ring.
Maybe, boxing is much easier as you are only talking about 2 fighters and they can easily make a good showdown without the audience knowing about it.
But I believe game fixing is still happening in so many forms but of course, it is hard to get hard evidence and that's the dilemma.
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December 16, 2023, 10:46:33 PM
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Something I always put in my head: not to place bets on my country's league games. This is because in my opinion they are fixed joes. I know what I'm saying is a strong accusation, but I think that my country's league games are games in which the winner is agreed in the office and on the field the players just follow the script drawn up in the office. There are many unpleasant situations that have happened in football in my country that have led me to lose all the confidence I had in my country's league. the teams in my country's league have the same sponsors, and the companies in my country that sponsor these teams in my country are government companies and the corrupt political party that runs my country manipulates football for political gain

for example when they know that a certain province in my country doesn't like them, so the corrupt political party that governs my country makes the team from that province become champions, in this way the people of that province start to like the corrupt party in the country. my country, it is a very disgusting method but unfortunately it has been happening in my country, which is why I prefer not to bet on teams from my country and I dare say that the people in my country who I know who place sports bets, do not I've been betting on my country's league games. They prefer to bet on league games in European countries, just like I have done.

In my case, I prefer to bet on the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 games. because I trust these leagues, there are no fixed games in these leagues, they are the most popular and best leagues in the world precisely because they have quality and transparency. Due to the high volume of money that these big leagues that I mentioned move, they would hardly get involved in fixed games, knowing that the penalty would cause a catastrophe, while in leagues that don't move a lot of money there is space for fixed games to take place.

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December 16, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
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Fixing matches is for sure a big problem in sports betting.  It's tricky to catch cause folks can do it real subtle-like.  Last few years there's been some famous cases of fixes that got people looking real close at betting.  but it's still hard to stop fixes from happening. and  Could be any league but more so the small ones where teams need money more.

As for match fixing being a common occurrence in leagues I place bets at? I honestly don't know. I hope not.

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December 16, 2023, 10:58:58 PM
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Usually the vigorish taken by the bookmakers is higher for small leagues of small countries, it means the RTP of those bets are smaller and it's hard for the punters to make profits on them. It's because there is less datas on those leagues available but also because matches are more likely to be fixed, which can lead to big losses for the bookmakers. Sumo wrestling had a very bad reputation for that, but I had recently the good surprise to see this sporting discipline appearing at some sportsbooks.

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December 16, 2023, 11:25:12 PM
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The sports I bet I don't think about it too often.  I stay away from college betting because it would be too easy (and cheap) for someone to pay off one of the players since they really don't make a salary.  In the top US pro sports I'm not sure if it's worth it for them to even try.  I guess the worst one I've seen in awhile is in the NBA with the ref who was on the books of the mob Tim Donaghy I think it was.  Either way I don't think it's prevalent enough to worry about.
Small league are more prone to this although there is no confirmation but we all know, it exist.
I’m also not betting in some sports in my country because I know how corrupt the organization is and its just a waste of time for me. There are rumors in a bigger league but of course they will always deny it as it can ruin their reputation and many might start doubting their integrity.

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I don't think it's happening in the higher leagues and big names are involved there's more money to be made and will be made for big names, do you think Canelo, Tank, and Crawford will involve themselves in game fixing knowing that the stake and the prestige that comes with every fight, game fixing can happen in small fights and minor leagues but when titles are involved or you are in a run to become big names in boxing every fighter do not want to involve in a controversy that may tarnish their reputation on their career.
Big names can fix the fight by cherry-picking their opponents but I don't think they will fix it by paying their opponents or organizations manipulating big names in boxing, all the news about game fixing in big circuits are just speculation.

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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.
The fact that everyone has a price makes match fixing a bit easier because the number of people gambling has risen exponentially and sometimes players aren't just paid enough!

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Such leagues just make it easy to fix as fewer prying eyes means easy game for the mafias..

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
Actually if week in week out results aren't showing consistency,  then am never entertaining such a league as it's hurting my pocket not my viewing pleasure...and I don't want to be hard headed on such...

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
One of the biggest football leagues I know is the Premier league and with so many players exposed to the gambling world makes it easy for them to fix matches , and the problem is that its not always based on results but card markets can be affected, shots on target, team X not to score etc and at the moment I think the game we love has been infiltrated by these gambling mafias and there is nothing we can do!

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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

If we talk about football, currently football is equipped with various technological features, one of which is VAR.  one of its functions or benefits, is to avoid the practice of match fixing. However, things related to match fixing will always be interesting for those who have access to make the settings as they wish. however, is there strong evidence to worry that every match presented has the potential for match fixing? of course not, especially for the top leagues. that's why, I only bet on a few top leagues. For other leagues, especially leagues that are not well known, I am not interested at all. except, I really know this league. Therefore, it is important for us, especially those who like football, to know in depth the ins and outs. At least if there is a scenario or practice such as match fixing, we can see the difference. Even though these practices have been neatly packaged in such a way, there will always be differences that can even be suspicious. well, that's why I say, I only bet on top Leagues. apart from that, the system, technology, regulations and everything related to it are more accountable than other leagues that are not well known.

Then the question is, can match fixing happen in the top league? The answer is, maybe yes and maybe no. The problem is, we don't know as long as a case of match fixing is not revealed. at least, the top leagues are more trustworthy and I'm not worried about that. actually there are many factors that make me confident, but it's quite long if we review them. in short, for example in the Premier League, City bought a lot of great players and they spent a lot of money on them. Plus, the trainers are very competent. then why are they doing match fixing, after all they have a solid team. in fact, to get the Champions League title City had to experience many failures and in the end they succeeded for the first time. well, so my answer is very clear, I'm not worried about the top leagues that can be trusted even though the potential will always be there. but in fact, we cannot know as long as a case is not revealed.

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In my opinion, football is hard to fix because you can see their performance outside the field.


This sounds strange to many ears and will even be disputed at the highest levels owing to facts that are not evident but these things happen behind closed doors.

More reason why you might not see, hear or even have an evidence of its happenings.

Regulatory bodies are trying to eliminate the possibility of its existence even though they don't agree to its reality.

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December 17, 2023, 01:33:28 AM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Well inasmuch as I don't believe in match fixing because every match is being bet on by gamblers so I see no amount that can be used to fix a match that people would not still win a bet and moreover how much can the team boss be able to pay in fixing too many matches in other for them to achieve their aim so you can see that a huge amount of money would be involved so even if a team boss have that intention of buying a match (match fixing) then I suggest he use the money and sign experience and tactical players then definitely his team will win more matches rather than paying huge amount just because you want to favour your team.

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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Match fixing definitely happens, but it is way more prevalent on leagues that may not harbor as much attention as the most popular leagues around the world, as in that case mob bosses can intimidate the players or even the coaches in order to get their desired outcome.

However some high profile cases have appeared over the years, which make it obvious match fixing is more common than what we may think, however I prefer to not think too much about it as I cannot do anything about it anyway.

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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Most of the time, I don't even consider fixing an issue as we have always took zero tolerance policies with fixing and people involved in fixing are handed over a life ban from sports.
There are times fan cry out fixing just because the result was not as expected. I think the event of fixing in world class sports are extremely rare.
High level players and teams are concerned about the image than anything else. And whatever fixing maybe happening, they are mostly in the poorer (economically and morally) places.



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December 17, 2023, 02:19:53 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

No experiences so far but fixed match are usually unnoticeable so nobody is going to be concerned of it. Again, nobody knows when or where will match fixing happens and with that we never know if it is pretty common to the league or not the least we can do is to suspect an unusual game to be a fixed match like when we see a stronger team being beaten pretty bad by worst team.
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December 17, 2023, 03:36:51 AM
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No experiences so far but fixed match are usually unnoticeable so nobody is going to be concerned of it. Again, nobody knows when or where will match fixing happens and with that we never know if it is pretty common to the league or not the least we can do is to suspect an unusual game to be a fixed match like when we see a stronger team being beaten pretty bad by worst team.

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December 17, 2023, 04:09:01 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.

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December 17, 2023, 11:46:00 PM
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Then the question is, can match fixing happen in the top league? The answer is, maybe yes and maybe no. The problem is, we don't know as long as a case of match fixing is not revealed. at least, the top leagues are more trustworthy and I'm not worried about that. actually there are many factors that make me confident, but it's quite long if we review them. in short, for example in the Premier League, City bought a lot of great players and they spent a lot of money on them. Plus, the trainers are very competent. then why are they doing match fixing, after all they have a solid team. in fact, to get the Champions League title City had to experience many failures and in the end they succeeded for the first time. well, so my answer is very clear, I'm not worried about the top leagues that can be trusted even though the potential will always be there. but in fact, we cannot know as long as a case is not revealed.

Sounds about right. We can never be too sure about anything and actually match fixing, even when revealed, takes a while to face justice so as a gambler we'd probably be getting the shorter end of the stick.
So it's actually best to gamble at leagues that have a good reputation and the most precautions at catching match fixing.

Coming from Greece where even the first league and cup are often met with investigations of math fixing, I now understand why some people refuse to actually bet on leagues of countries like mine, even locals. Cheesy The EPL hasn't had a big scandal since 2013 while here there is a scandal nearly every year.

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