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December 17, 2023, 11:51:11 PM
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Well, basically yes. It is unfair to gamblers who are betting on their luck. Not all gamblers in the first place can afford a VIP Signal group to also be able to know the fixed matches and outcomes. However, from being here for years, I have never encountered problems related to it probably because of the sports I am engaging myself with which is in NBA. Match fixing is less evident to bigger leagues which quite lessen my worries.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.
As others have mentioned, it still occurs with smaller leagues such as local mobile game tournaments to just name one. It would be frustrating to lose and know that even before the match starts, there are already players who know which team would win.

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December 17, 2023, 11:56:20 PM
Last edit: December 18, 2023, 12:07:59 AM by AmoreJaz
 #42

Well, basically yes. It is unfair to gamblers who are betting on their luck. Not all gamblers in the first place can afford a VIP Signal group to also be able to know the fixed matches and outcomes. However, from being here for years, I have never encountered problems related to it probably because of the sports I am engaging myself with which is in NBA. Match fixing is less evident to bigger leagues which quite lessen my worries.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.
As others have mentioned, it still occurs with smaller leagues such as local mobile game tournaments to just name one. It would be frustrating to lose and know that even before the match starts, there are already players who know which team would win.

small or local leagues, i also believe, are prone to this match fixing scheme. because for bigger leagues, it will require tons of money before it actually happens. of course, you need to pay off those top players of the team, and that translates to huge money as their reputation is on the line. besides, it is hard to fake your moves if everybody is watching on you. so as an athlete, are you going to put yourself in a compromise position where your future career is on the line? because if you will agree with this scheme, it means, you are also mentally prepared that you will lose your job as an athlete. you don't know what evidences they will provide if in case there will be lawsuit.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.

match fixing will always be a part of the sports. however, i think, only few can really pull it off clean and without any rumour. in some sports where few athletes are involved like boxing, UFC, or even tennis, can be of possibility as you are only talking about 2-4 players here. so the discussion and arrangement will only be with them and their respective promoter/manager. but to what gain will they get from it, why they will agree with such situation, may be the underlying factor if they will indeed nod with the plan

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December 18, 2023, 08:02:17 AM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Small leagues have a big potential for match fixing, because sponsors for small leagues are usually not large. Therefore, the possibility of match fixing is very possible.
Small clubs that have poor finances are easily tempted by the practice of match fixing. Not a few small club players usually ask to find a football mafia bookie to fix the scores.

This is different from the high league level which prioritizes fair play, and each club is required to have good financial health.
Because this score fixing is complex, the perpetrators can be club owners, club staff, club players and even the federation.

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December 18, 2023, 08:08:31 AM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Match fixing is very hard to be discovered and proven with a good enough evidence by the authorities.
In the country where I live, many matches in the football league seem very suspicious, but the authorities don't do anything to investigate.
I don't have concerns about match fixing, because I don't bet on matches in my national football league. I don't think that the regular sports bettors care that much about match fixing. All they care is their own profits from their bets. If they bet on a fixed match and the bet ends up being profitable, they will be happy and totally indifferent towards the fact, that the match was fixed.

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December 18, 2023, 08:22:18 AM
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I'm sure everyone already knows about this problem where there are always people who carry out fraudulent actions like match fixing, where usually big people who are in gambling are involved in it to win bets, that's why I never tried to find luck betting in the small leagues. even though sometimes the Odds are very big I won't be tempted to try it, it's enough to lose a few dollars in a small league league let alone betting on a league from my country which is full of match fixing.

But not only in the small leagues, I'm even sure that in the big leagues there will also be match fixing games like that and the bigger the league, of course there will be people who have a lot of money involved in fixing the scores. I sometimes always feel strange when I watch a top club lose against a club. bottom of the board, usually I always think negatively and think that behind the defeat there is a game behind it such as match fixing, even though it's not entirely like that, but it's true that it's more comfortable to gamble in the big leagues, for the small leagues it's best to avoid it

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December 18, 2023, 08:30:36 AM
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It's common in smaller leagues and sporting events. It's also the same in esports in Dota 2 and that's why many pro players on this game have been banned forever in the professional scene and leagues because of what they've done for doing fix matches. It's not worth it if the stake is going to be their potential good career in return of small commissions from these betting sharks that are coordinating with them. There's so much controversy on this because it's a lot of money involved.

But it is not concerning me because when I bet, I make sure that the integrity of the teams involved is there. And I usually avoid the smaller tournaments and leagues because that's where it usually happens. Especially in some specific regions on this game, I'm not going to say it but I think most fans, gamers and bettors are aware of it and even Valve itself is aware of the unusual things happening there but they just keep their mouths shut because of how huge they are contributing to the community and the game itself.

Well, it should be the organizers that will do something about these match fixing issues but they'll never be stopped IMHO. They're going to continue and might just lie low when the heat is there but eventually, they're going to stop and later on will comeback when there's no more alarm from the public and communities that are looking at them.

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Do you like watching performances called football? What about those fans who are fans of one team or another when the coaching staff buys and sells their games? Yes, I know many cases of such games where players are paid bribes, and it can be disgusting to watch a match when the referee openly acts outside the rules.
Everything that can be sold or bought will be sold. There is no need to worry about those players and teams where there is an agreement between coaches; they are paid everything in both bonuses and bribes. But thinking about how honest sport can be and continuing to love it becomes more and more difficult every year.

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.

Not unless if there's someone gonna let them know about certain situation, but in real time for sure we cannot tell the game is fix until the players or officials in field will show some signs that they are really after into something and we can see that there's something wrong happening in the game.

For sure they made it confidential because if this is expose to the public for sure it create a lot of trouble to those person involve with this anomaly. There's been case like this happen I read and person involve has been penalize here check this reference link for issue like this I've read before. https://www.espn.ph/basketball/story/_/id/31267409/doj-file-charges-mpbl-game-fixing-issue

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I'm sure everyone already knows about this problem where there are always people who carry out fraudulent actions like match fixing, where usually big people who are in gambling are involved in it to win bets, that's why I never tried to find luck betting in the small leagues. even though sometimes the Odds are very big I won't be tempted to try it, it's enough to lose a few dollars in a small league league let alone betting on a league from my country which is full of match fixing.

But not only in the small leagues, I'm even sure that in the big leagues there will also be match fixing games like that and the bigger the league, of course there will be people who have a lot of money involved in fixing the scores. I sometimes always feel strange when I watch a top club lose against a club. bottom of the board, usually I always think negatively and think that behind the defeat there is a game behind it such as match fixing, even though it's not entirely like that, but it's true that it's more comfortable to gamble in the big leagues, for the small leagues it's best to avoid it
Match fixing regularly happens around many countries, even in Europe. Recently one of our (Turkish) lower league team's president was caught placing bets (not about his team but still looks very strange). There was also cases of some Italian football players actually placing bets (different teams again), they were not found guilty - but one very important question comes to mind: Isn't it so common?
I also feel like, not always, but sometimes, big team "intentionally" plays very bad football and result is draw or loss. But I must say, I feel safe to place bets within champions league or europa league because those are too big to run such schemes.
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December 18, 2023, 10:24:53 AM
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There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.

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December 18, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
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It can be concerning if there is a match-fixing that occurs in a particular game, especially in small league sports games, where there is manipulation happen. I've seen scenarios on YouTube specifically in football games where other coaches or players got paid by the other team or those who manage the other team just so they can win.

As a person who is watching the game you can really sense that there is something fishy in that game, and you basically know that the team you bet on play well but later on lose against their opponent that is not too skilled.
But there's nothing you can do but just accept everything, cause if is there no evidence then people might think that the game was well played. And you know too well that it was being cheated.

But if it is proven that there is match-fixing going on then everyone who is involved will receive disciplinary action like you can get a penalty, being banned, and might rot in jail.

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December 18, 2023, 10:40:11 AM
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There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.
Not really that much or rampant comparing on smaller leagues. We've seen for example on those controversial referee calls and other decisions on which it would really be the main talk in town.
They might really be able to apply those fixing or whatsoever but we cant really be able to conclude until its proven or checked. Usually match fixing will really be on smaller leagues.
Match fixing does exist, it is really just that it isnt really that often since majority of us sports bettors or fans would really be going or seeing into those bigger ones or most popular
ones on which we know that we cant really be able to see with those odd actions because it could be easily be spot out.

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.

Most of the time fixed matches are really confidential. People who are involved in this kind of activity usually hide the fact that they have the game fixed because in most games, it's really prohibited to have a fixed matches because they say that it disrupts the ecosystem of the game. Additionally, it's a form of cheating. People who do fix games often talk beforehand who will be declared the winner and loser, then from there, they will just split the winning prize so that both of them will benefit. It's not really a new thing in the gambling industry, but it doesn't mean that it should be promoted either.
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I think it happens more often than most people seem to think.

" Those figures reveal Sportradar detected over 1,200 suspicious matches in 12 sports in 2022 – the highest to date and a 34 per cent increase on 2021. By April this year – when it found 150 suspicious matches, the highest ever in a calendar month – 2023 was on course to exceed last year. " - Source : https://www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3221054/match-fixing-spiralling-and-sports-must-spend-halt-it-expert-says-naming-football-basketball-no-1

" Overall, across all sports, the suspected manipulation rate stood at one in every 476 matches " Source : https://sportradar.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Betting-Corruption-And-Match-Fixing-In-2022-2.pdf

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Actually in this case I am not too worried because in the end the concern occurs because we are in it to bet but indeed for small matches or in local competitions I have never done any gambling so that things like game setting and even score setting can be minimized.
But indeed in this problem I think for some of the bigger competitions it will not happen even if there is definitely it will be a big scandal that is definitely smeared so no one will want that.

I've seen some videos on social media, especially for small leagues in some parts of Africa where score-fixing like this is often seen, there are even some players who seem deliberate and don't want to cover it up, but indeed in this case they also have their own authorities, sometimes even for domestic competitions in small league even mafia like that is a much bigger network than the league security authorities. 

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December 18, 2023, 11:58:06 AM
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I’m curious what’s their basis on categorizing match fixing because it’s very hard to prove it unless they have recording about the negotiation before the match begin. I think most of this suspicious match are those upset matches with high odds.

There’s no way to verify all these numbers or else the league needs to be investigate due to the number of suspected match fixing.

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December 18, 2023, 12:30:49 PM
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I wanted to open a topic with the name "have you noticed this" during the weekend games.In there I wanted to point out how come consistent sport bettors still continue to bet on weekends when it is exactly this time that most upset results happen.I am not pointing the finger to a specific team or a specific league but what is sure is that a lot of big teams usually have upset results.

This last weekend Manchester City,Ajax,Paris,Roma,Dortmund and a lot od other teams did not won their games.Of course we must say something that the adversaries were strong but why consistently every weekend we see surprise results?

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Not really no. The number of times the tournaments/leagues I've watched are rare (mostly eSports tourneys), with most of them being only during the early days. I guess it also helps how most tournaments are rather big in itself and they number pretty small afaik, at least compared to other sports?

As for it being unhealthy, then yea definitely. I mean, what are the chances of you getting a bet on one anyway? Pretty low imo. And managing your bets due to a possible match-fixing seems like too much of a stress really. In a sense, picking teams to bet on is already stressful enough, adding the mindset of thinking if a match was matchfixed just seems too much.

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December 18, 2023, 01:03:28 PM
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There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.
Not really that much or rampant comparing on smaller leagues.

You can say that if your basis are those that are caught which usually from small leagues only. Major league games have a bigger stake on them, so they wouldn't allow to publish that their games are fix as that would ruin their reputation, we are talking of a billion industry here, so that big amount of money are at risk.

On major leagues, all we can do is just to speculate as nothing has been proven yet, or if there is, it's just an isolated case, not really the league itself are involve.

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Not really no. The number of times the tournaments/leagues I've watched are rare (mostly eSports tourneys), with most of them being only during the early days. I guess it also helps how most tournaments are rather big in itself and they number pretty small afaik, at least compared to other sports?
eSports are a whole other league of their own.
Sometimes the teams playing are so obscure and the tournaments so small that you wonder how come the players are so motivated given the earnings they get are low.
In such occasions players might be incentivized to rig their games on creative ways just to earn something extra so they can have a more sustainable income.

It had happened sometimes and I think on eSports especially it would be hard to notice if it's been agreed upon well.

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