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December 25, 2023, 05:17:56 PM
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The second point is so difficult to do, I keep trying to persuade my friend who is really a gambling addict, he is really obsessed with wanting to get rich quickly and even sold some of the assets in his house here. I don't even care about his wife and children, I'm afraid it will make him lose his mind even more, sometimes I give his wife and children some of their needs because I feel sorry for them, I hope I can help my friend recover.
This is not about taking break anymore and your friends needs a professional help and I hope he can still recover from this. Being responsible is not easy at all as many remains emotional and they fall on the trap of gambling addiction. Continue to gamble within a budget, know when to stop and know when to gamble at the right time, this may be challenging at first but if you will be able to be more responsible, your gambling journey will be more meaningful.
Who can provide help? Where can one find help? Realization is what they need. For someone who is addicted to gambling and has reached the point of selling assets just to fuel their addiction, they must realize that their actions have consequences, especially for their loved ones. This realization can lead them to a better understanding of their situation and help them decide to change and seek the necessary help to overcome their addiction.
The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.

Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.

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December 25, 2023, 05:40:39 PM
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The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.

Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.
I agree to this. The first thing it should do in order to avoid addiction is to realize that you are actually addicted. Most of the time we deny that we are addicted to something. And by the time we realize that we are actually addicted, it is already too late. And by the time you realize it you need to have strong will to come out of it.
If you don't have the strong will, you won't be able to come out of it. Many people like professionals can give you directions, medications, alternative ways of avoiding that addiction but in the end it all comes down to you. If you don't decide it on your own, no one else can help you.
Realization is the key but in order to unlock it you need self-willingness to do it in the first place.
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December 25, 2023, 06:05:59 PM
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The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.

Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.
I agree to this. The first thing it should do in order to avoid addiction is to realize that you are actually addicted. Most of the time we deny that we are addicted to something. And by the time we realize that we are actually addicted, it is already too late. And by the time you realize it you need to have strong will to come out of it.
If you don't have the strong will, you won't be able to come out of it. Many people like professionals can give you directions, medications, alternative ways of avoiding that addiction but in the end it all comes down to you. If you don't decide it on your own, no one else can help you.
Realization is the key but in order to unlock it you need self-willingness to do it in the first place.

yes, we deny ourselves to we are addicted, I have seen my friends who deny themselves that they are not addicted to gambling but don't able to resist with it for a day.
there are many organizations to get out of addiction there is too much ways to get out of it, we can talk to people by calling, chatting, etc. if someone don't have people to seek support.
I really liked the idea of the organizations they are really helpful to get out of addiction.
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December 25, 2023, 09:10:21 PM
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Who can provide help?

Obviously their love ones will voluntarily provide help.  They can also ask their friends for advice and suggestion on how to fix his gambling addiction.  He can also pay for professional to aid him on his rehabilitation.

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Where can one find help?

He can look for online services or as advice from groups that deals with gambling addiction.  But the nearest person that can help are friends and relatives.

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Realization is what they need. For someone who is addicted to gambling and has reached the point of selling assets just to fuel their addiction, they must realize that their actions have consequences, especially for their loved ones. This realization can lead them to a better understanding of their situation and help them decide to change and seek the necessary help to overcome their addiction.

I agree that realization is the key to start rehabilitating oneself and be cured of gambling addiction.  Without personal admission, a gambling addict will never realize that he is addicted and will continue to be addicted to gambling without realizing that he is deeply addicted to the gambling activities.
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December 26, 2023, 01:37:23 AM
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The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.

Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.
I agree to this. The first thing it should do in order to avoid addiction is to realize that you are actually addicted. Most of the time we deny that we are addicted to something. And by the time we realize that we are actually addicted, it is already too late. And by the time you realize it you need to have strong will to come out of it.
If you don't have the strong will, you won't be able to come out of it. Many people like professionals can give you directions, medications, alternative ways of avoiding that addiction but in the end it all comes down to you. If you don't decide it on your own, no one else can help you.
Realization is the key but in order to unlock it you need self-willingness to do it in the first place.

Which is valid, even if you realize that you are doing things the wrong way, but you are not willing to adjust. There's nothing that can be done, and even how helpful the people that surround you without your own determination to quit or to stop, then there's nothing that can be accomplished, it's you that need to take actions plus the help that you are going to receive, that are the things that you can use to quit away from anything that relates to addiction that you have, without it then you are going to keep doing things that will endanger your financial and mental stability.

Responsible gambling means that you are in control of everything, having that right attitude and mindset to make sure that you can limit yourself and be able to direct yourself in that right direction that you need to do.

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December 26, 2023, 02:22:14 AM
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Here are two things to take note of before gambling
1.have a budget:it's very crucial to set a budget, decide how much money you are comfortable spending on gambling
Always stake what you can afford to lose. Have a limit and stick to it, doing it this way wouldn't put you under
Pressure and anxiety
2.Take breaks:This is a very important point..gambling can be very addicting especially when we start excepting a lot from it
From the first point I made I said you should always stake what you can afford to lose but it's important to
Take regular breaks especially when your losses are more than your wins.give yourself time to recover cause it's all about maintaining a healthy balance...I hope this helps someone out there

In gambling usually I deposit any amount of money and start playing. Almost at some point if the benefit is realized then I move the dividend elsewhere. And secondly, if I face a loss, I divide my money into two parts. I stop gambling right after the half is over and have no rest.  And the next day or the next week again I start gambling and then I reap the benefits. But one thing I have noticed is that when I am addicted to gambling for a long time I face losses. So someone like me who is addicted to gambling for a long time is more likely to face losses.
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December 26, 2023, 03:57:31 AM
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In gambling usually I deposit any amount of money and start playing. Almost at some point if the benefit is realized then I move the dividend elsewhere. And secondly, if I face a loss, I divide my money into two parts. I stop gambling right after the half is over and have no rest.  And the next day or the next week again I start gambling and then I reap the benefits. But one thing I have noticed is that when I am addicted to gambling for a long time I face losses. So someone like me who is addicted to gambling for a long time is more likely to face losses.


I don't know why addicted player will face more losses, according to you.
But I have seen this pattern in myself like I am playing live casino for long time and also someday there is a losing day where I lose everybody I play I think because other days the games pattern was something else and on that losing day the pattern is something else that causes me to lose more often, it indirectly means that more time we play it more it causes loses because of change in pattern.
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December 26, 2023, 04:55:41 AM
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The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.
This is the most difficult part, namely realizing that he is addicted, it is very rare for a gambling addict to realize and admit that he is addicted because most gambling addicts never want to give confession statement about their addiction.
When awareness already exists, it is easy to start making various efforts to reduce the intensity of gambling with the aim of suppressing the desire to gamble excessively.
The first thing to do is awareness and this is an important factor in success in recovering.

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Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.
Yes, the environment is one of the biggest influences in cases of gambling addiction and of course every gambling addict must be able to stay away from all living environments that can make it easier for them to return to excessive gambling activities.
Moreover, nowadays there is convenience in online casinos which means gamblers can access them anytime and anywhere.
Every gambler who realizes that he is addicted and really wants to be free from the problem of addiction must be able to pressure himself not to try to approach everything related to the ease of accessing gambling sites.

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December 26, 2023, 05:08:13 AM
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The second point is so difficult to do, I keep trying to persuade my friend who is really a gambling addict, he is really obsessed with wanting to get rich quickly and even sold some of the assets in his house here. I don't even care about his wife and children, I'm afraid it will make him lose his mind even more, sometimes I give his wife and children some of their needs because I feel sorry for them, I hope I can help my friend recover.
This is not about taking break anymore and your friends needs a professional help and I hope he can still recover from this. Being responsible is not easy at all as many remains emotional and they fall on the trap of gambling addiction. Continue to gamble within a budget, know when to stop and know when to gamble at the right time, this may be challenging at first but if you will be able to be more responsible, your gambling journey will be more meaningful.
Who can provide help? Where can one find help? Realization is what they need. For someone who is addicted to gambling and has reached the point of selling assets just to fuel their addiction, they must realize that their actions have consequences, especially for their loved ones. This realization can lead them to a better understanding of their situation and help them decide to change and seek the necessary help to overcome their addiction.
The first step to beating an addiction is to first realize that there is an addiction and after that ,you move to outline the level of addiction and for sure many of us may not be able to handle the addiction ourselves and the reason why we may need the help of our family or even a doctor.

Many times there are some other levels of addictions that the addict will have to change his environment since the majority of addicts in gambling are due to easy access to casino houses.
But the issue is that those who are addicted don't have the conscious minds anymore to decipher whether they are addicted or not, they just believe they are doing what they like or what they believe that can give them money. But in reality, they are addicted and it would have tarried for long to realize it. If everyone could just realize and get to put their shits together in gambling, it would have been nice, but the truth is that some will never think towards that direction and the little that would realize that will find it difficult to change the narrative which might be due to their weak minds and others. Those who would realize addiction and be conscious to change the narrative are not much, those are the people who are wise and are cautious of what they do. One thing that is peculiar with these people is that they have their minds and the willpower to say No. So stopping might be somewhat easy for them. It might not go immediately, but over time, it will if they fight it. If gamblers continue this way, it will help them for good.

Also, I buy your idea on external help for gamblers since it is not everybody that can fight addiction and win by themselves. Some can further help themselves by getting help from family, friends and experts in the psychology field, and this might only help them if they also help themselves. As it is not everyone who gets help eventually gets healed, their own quota of willingness goes a long way in fixing them. If it is not there, then the whole sessions and attempts might be futile.

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December 26, 2023, 07:01:42 AM
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yes, we deny ourselves to we are addicted, I have seen my friends who deny themselves that they are not addicted to gambling but don't able to resist with it for a day.
there are many organizations to get out of addiction there is too much ways to get out of it, we can talk to people by calling, chatting, etc. if someone don't have people to seek support.
I really liked the idea of the organizations they are really helpful to get out of addiction.
Seeking professional help should be your last resort. But the first thing that you need to do is realize that you are actually addicted to gambling. In order to get rid of this addiction, you need to have a strong will which will determine whether you are going to get rid of this addiction or not. I am addicted to cigarettes and let me tell you this. It is hard to quit smoking when you are the one making the decisions. If I decide to quit but I don't have a strong will, I won't be able to do it. But if I really choose to do it with a strong dedication, I will succeed for sure.
I know it's not the same thing with gambling addiction but every addiction does play the same role and could be avoided by following some kind of precautions. First priority should be not getting addicted at the first place and even if we get addicted we should choose ourselves that we really want to get rid of it.
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December 26, 2023, 07:05:34 AM
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In gambling usually I deposit any amount of money and start playing. Almost at some point if the benefit is realized then I move the dividend elsewhere. And secondly, if I face a loss, I divide my money into two parts. I stop gambling right after the half is over and have no rest.  And the next day or the next week again I start gambling and then I reap the benefits. But one thing I have noticed is that when I am addicted to gambling for a long time I face losses. So someone like me who is addicted to gambling for a long time is more likely to face losses.


I don't know why addicted player will face more losses, according to you.
But I have seen this pattern in myself like I am playing live casino for long time and also someday there is a losing day where I lose everybody I play I think because other days the games pattern was something else and on that losing day the pattern is something else that causes me to lose more often, it indirectly means that more time we play it more it causes loses because of change in pattern.
Maybe what he meant is that if he plays longer than His usual strategy he faces losses , im which i found a story created , because he already knew that he is facing something like that but still continues what he is doing , that is how losers are created, that same scenario that OP is asking which why you will  never win in gambling unless you know how to manage your expectation and your desires.

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December 26, 2023, 07:16:26 AM
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yes, we deny ourselves to we are addicted, I have seen my friends who deny themselves that they are not addicted to gambling but don't able to resist with it for a day.
there are many organizations to get out of addiction there is too much ways to get out of it, we can talk to people by calling, chatting, etc. if someone don't have people to seek support.
I really liked the idea of the organizations they are really helpful to get out of addiction.
Seeking professional help should be your last resort. But the first thing that you need to do is realize that you are actually addicted to gambling. In order to get rid of this addiction, you need to have a strong will which will determine whether you are going to get rid of this addiction or not. I am addicted to cigarettes and let me tell you this. It is hard to quit smoking when you are the one making the decisions. If I decide to quit but I don't have a strong will, I won't be able to do it. But if I really choose to do it with a strong dedication, I will succeed for sure.
I know it's not the same thing with gambling addiction but every addiction does play the same role and could be avoided by following some kind of precautions. First priority should be not getting addicted at the first place and even if we get addicted we should choose ourselves that we really want to get rid of it.
You are right and I completely agree with you, addictions all play same role and operates in the same manner, regardless they are of different types and levels as well.

I know some guys who are addicted to smoking over here as well, one of them once confided in me that he's really tired of smoking and wishes to stop, but hasn't been able to, my reply to him was that, he is not ready to stop, that he has not made up of his mind to stop. Then he asked me what I meant by that, I told him exactly the same thing you said here about being strong willed to quit something, that he has not really made up his mind to stop smoking, for if he has, he would do any thing possible to stop it.

Then, he tried to explain to me that, quitting an addiction is not as simple as making up one's mind to stop, and then boom, it's gone. He explained that, just making up ones mind to stop doing something, and then that person just stops doing that thing, simply means that the person was not really deeply addicted to doing that thing, that for someone who is deeply addicted, personally decision and determination to quit doing that thing may never help except God intervenes, which is why it's called addiction, that if addiction was as easy as we think it is, to come out from, it wouldn't be called addiction.

In the end, he seemed pretty serious and I could not help but agree with him, I only managed to tell him to seek medical or professional help since he on his own can't stop, and I believe there are alot of gambling addicts going through the same challenge, I will also advise them to seek professional help when its imminent that they can't help themselves anymore.

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December 26, 2023, 07:19:09 AM
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Responsible gambling means that you are in control of everything, having that right attitude and mindset to make sure that you can limit yourself and be able to direct yourself in that right direction that you need to do.
Quite accurately described. It is easier said than done. We learn from our mistakes and anything that we learn without facing any consequences are not true experience. They are knowledge that can be altered. With experience, when you suffer it on your own you can feel how deep it is. And for that reason, learning from experience is the best method. You may not be in control of everything at the first, but eventually the more mistake you make the more you can learn from them.
But on the other hand, anything that goes beyond extreme is bad. This is why starting with a limitation is the best way of doing things. Whether you make mistakes or not, you are in a limit. Whatever mistake you make does not exceed that limitation and become something bad. It becomes a learning point from where we can fix our mistakes.
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Realization is what they need. For someone who is addicted to gambling and has reached the point of selling assets just to fuel their addiction, they must realize that their actions have consequences, especially for their loved ones. This realization can lead them to a better understanding of their situation and help them decide to change and seek the necessary help to overcome their addiction.

I agree that realization is the key to start rehabilitating oneself and be cured of gambling addiction.  Without personal admission, a gambling addict will never realize that he is addicted and will continue to be addicted to gambling without realizing that he is deeply addicted to the gambling activities.
That is where every change will start. Once he finally realizes the things needed to realize about his gambling addiction, certain changes will possibly come. Even with the help of anyone around him, if he doesn't realize anything or doesn't take any initiative to change himself from being addicted to a better person, nothing will change. His current situation will continue, and he will become addicted.

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December 26, 2023, 09:27:04 AM
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Responsible gambling means that you are in control of everything, having that right attitude and mindset to make sure that you can limit yourself and be able to direct yourself in that right direction that you need to do.
Quite accurately described. It is easier said than done. We learn from our mistakes and anything that we learn without facing any consequences are not true experience. They are knowledge that can be altered. With experience, when you suffer it on your own you can feel how deep it is. And for that reason, learning from experience is the best method. You may not be in control of everything at the first, but eventually the more mistake you make the more you can learn from them.
But on the other hand, anything that goes beyond extreme is bad. This is why starting with a limitation is the best way of doing things. Whether you make mistakes or not, you are in a limit. Whatever mistake you make does not exceed that limitation and become something bad. It becomes a learning point from where we can fix our mistakes.

you gave a nice learning to me, and it's true that experience teaches better than just learning and knowing some things.
I also first does not wanted to gamble by hearing about other people, and i heard but not followed there advice and now i gamble and lose, they already said that but we followed? no
but after learning but my experience I am sure that I will not be broke in gambling or rune my life, this is because of experience without it I would may have played in future and sold Everything i have. who knows
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December 26, 2023, 09:59:01 AM
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Well, yes, but still, gambling is gambling. You still have the possibility to lose money, and that is a negative result that is inevitable with gambling, but with responsible gambling, you will limit the losses, control your expenses, and also maintain your mental health. That's why, yes, responsible gambling could give positive results to gamblers and the people around them. If only all gamblers would be responsible, then there would be no crimes related to gambling or gamblers committing crimes because they needed money or because of gambling, resulting in committing crime.

So no matter what they say, even if you are doing gambling stuff, as long as you are responsible, you are good. As long as you know yourself, you will not do anything negative or bad to yourself or to the people around you. That's why gamblers should always gamble responsibly and respectfully to avoid unnecessary circumstances and negative results.

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December 26, 2023, 10:12:04 AM
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I agree that realization is the key to start rehabilitating oneself and be cured of gambling addiction.  Without personal admission, a gambling addict will never realize that he is addicted and will continue to be addicted to gambling without realizing that he is deeply addicted to the gambling activities.
Realization is one thing because there's self-aware addicts in there that are still gambling and can't ask for help or even refuses to help, the willingness to be cured of your addiction combined with realization is a thing of wonder because you want the change in lifestyle because there's no way that you can ever keep it that way forever and so you have the will to change and rehabilitate for good.
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December 26, 2023, 10:35:12 AM
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Being responsible gambler is a must and it can prevent you from getting addicted in gambling.
Though this may sound so easy but of course in reality there will be challenges and you might not fulfill this overnight. Controlling your emotion is one the big challenges that you may encounter in gambling and if you are too emotional, you might suffer a big loss because of being too impulsive. You have to take this slowly but surely and know that being responsible should be your priority and you should always do your budgeting.

Yes, that's right, indeed if it has become a gambler, it's hard to stop. Will be a big challenge for gamblers to get out of the circle. Winning or losing, is not a problem for gamblers. Because, gambling addicts will continue to bet to find other victories until they themselves feel satisfaction. Therefore, it takes the right way so that the Sipede can be separated from the gambling circle.
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December 26, 2023, 10:40:42 AM
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Here are two things to take note of before gambling
1.have a budget:it's very crucial to set a budget, decide how much money you are comfortable spending on gambling
Always stake what you can afford to lose. Have a limit and stick to it, doing it this way wouldn't put you under
Pressure and anxiety
2.Take breaks:This is a very important point..gambling can be very addicting especially when we start excepting a lot from it
From the first point I made I said you should always stake what you can afford to lose but it's important to
Take regular breaks especially when your losses are more than your wins.give yourself time to recover cause it's all about maintaining a healthy balance...I hope this helps someone out there
the vote shows Gambling wins in the poll , but for me is also Gambling because this is where risk is constantly needed and no way that you can assume winning unless this happens.
But on the other hand trading is better to take with knowledge , so truth is? both are risky and yet both are profitable.

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December 26, 2023, 11:20:52 AM
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So no matter what they say, even if you are doing gambling stuff, as long as you are responsible, you are good. As long as you know yourself, you will not do anything negative or bad to yourself or to the people around you. That's why gamblers should always gamble responsibly and respectfully to avoid unnecessary circumstances and negative results.
Responsibility is half the battle in my opinion because there's some people that are responsible but don't have the discipline, they're ablento be responsible with their money but they end up having no control to when they're going to play so when they lose, they might immediately play again after some time the same day. If we're so concerned about the effects of gambling, maybe we should stop gambling for our well-being.
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