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[notocactus]

It all has something to do with that crypto connection, and Bitcointalk is a historical place when it comes to that. Due to very high competition, for a casino to get much better reputation and build a brand for years, the length of the campaigns and advertisements also matter. If a casino advertises for just a week or month, they will be forgotten as quickly as how long they advertised.

It's true but a casino must start with trial advertisement and assess results from it, before they can expand it longer. All casinos must have very good results fro campaign to make it long lasting and they surely must have very sustainable businesss revenue that is partially from the campaign effects, to be able running the campaign for a long time.

Campaign budget must be solidly contributed by campaign effects, and no company can spend money forever like burning if they don't have good income from campaign effects. Big platforms are more easily to spend big initial campaign budget to make their initial trial campaign lively for a while longer time than smaller platforms, it's natural.

[Zwei]

It all has something to do with that crypto connection, and Bitcointalk is a historical place when it comes to that. Due to very high competition, for a casino to get much better reputation and build a brand for years, the length of the campaigns and advertisements also matter. If a casino advertises for just a week or month, they will be forgotten as quickly as how long they advertised.

exactly, most of the short lived campaigns think they will just run one for a week or two and they will immediately start seeing results. they get no results, get disappointed, and leave the forum.
there is a solid write up on How to Advertise Your Casino on BitcoinTalk.org by @SirJohnVonSlotty if anyone wanna give a read.

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[khaled0111]

It's true but a casino must start with trial advertisement and assess results from it, before they can expand it longer. All casinos must have very good results fro campaign to make it long lasting and they surely must have very sustainable businesss revenue that is partially from the campaign effects, to be able running the campaign for a long time.

The problem is that they’re unlikely to see any results that could give them insights into how effective a signature campaign can be if they run it for only a short period, like a week or two.
IMHO, they don’t need to do that at all as they can draw conclusions from their competitors who have been running signature campaigns for years. They just need to ask: why would they keep doing it if it wasn’t beneficial for their business? No company would keep spending such an amount of money and effort if they weren’t already satisfied with the results.

[btc_angela]

It's all about competition, and we all know that this niche is very competitive. Even if you look at the current signature campaigns here, there are still some of the old casinos still going and using this platform to promote.

And obviously, there are a lot of new casinos popping around that's why I said this is very competitive and everyone should do everything to stand out. And this includes having a long term signature campaign or maybe some review campaigns or competitions in the Games and Rounds board.

If a company want to advertise their brand via a signature campaign with become, Bitcointalk is a best forum for doing this. We can see mixers struggled to advertise their campaigns after thermos banned mixers about two years ago.

There are other forums but they are smaller than Bitcointalk and have less traffic so effects from a signature campaign would be small too. With this fact, if a company can advertise here, it will be their favorite forum and is their first choice. They will consider other forums as alternatives and they would like to spend smaller budget than for campaign in Bitcoin forum.

Yes, I'm aware that there are smaller forums, but it seems that the mixer signature has move there and less likely for casino campaign as this is the best.

Not the first choice, but it's the only choice they have unless the admin ban crypto base casino signature campaigns which I don't to happen as it crypto base signature campaigns brought a lot of traffic here, hence, it's a win win situation for us and for the admin itself.

[notocactus]

Yes, I'm aware that there are smaller forums, but it seems that the mixer signature has move there and less likely for casino campaign as this is the best.

Not the first choice, but it's the only choice they have unless the admin ban crypto base casino signature campaigns which I don't to happen as it crypto base signature campaigns brought a lot of traffic here, hence, it's a win win situation for us and for the admin itself.

They moved there because they had no other choices or amongst many remaining choices with some forums, it's their best remaining choice. You can see a fact that some gambling companies run their signature campaigns firstly in Bitcointalk then tried to run their test campaigns in that forum and after a short time they stopped that test campaigns and never run it again. This action means something about quality of Bitcoin forum and that one, as well as how better effects from a campaign hosted here.

If that forum can bring better effects to companies than this Bitcoin forum, it would have been a most favorite choice rather than this forum. Fortunately, Bitcoin forum is the best choice for companies that want to advertise in BBcode signature campaigns.

[peter0425]

It's true but a casino must start with trial advertisement and assess results from it, before they can expand it longer. All casinos must have very good results fro campaign to make it long lasting and they surely must have very sustainable businesss revenue that is partially from the campaign effects, to be able running the campaign for a long time.

It is unfortunate because usually campaigns do not hit it off right only after a week. They typically will need more than that to really assess the level of success but since a lot of companies only have limited budget, they tend to cut their campaigns short without even a proper time period to really see significant results.

[freedomgo]

It is unfortunate because usually campaigns do not hit it off right only after a week. They typically will need more than that to really assess the level of success but since a lot of companies only have limited budget, they tend to cut their campaigns short without even a proper time period to really see significant results.

I think they just have to be patient as the true impact of any campaign can't be measured in the short term, one month is far too brief. A minimum of six months is needed to properly assess whether the marketing effort actually strengthens brand awareness. Just look at other campaigns that have run for over a year; their continued operation proves long-term effectiveness.

[arwin100]

Yes, I'm aware that there are smaller forums, but it seems that the mixer signature has move there and less likely for casino campaign as this is the best.

Not the first choice, but it's the only choice they have unless the admin ban crypto base casino signature campaigns which I don't to happen as it crypto base signature campaigns brought a lot of traffic here, hence, it's a win win situation for us and for the admin itself.

They moved there because they had no other choices or amongst many remaining choices with some forums, it's their best remaining choice. You can see a fact that some gambling companies run their signature campaigns firstly in Bitcointalk then tried to run their test campaigns in that forum and after a short time they stopped that test campaigns and never run it again. This action means something about quality of Bitcoin forum and that one, as well as how better effects from a campaign hosted here.

If that forum can bring better effects to companies than this Bitcoin forum, it would have been a most favorite choice rather than this forum. Fortunately, Bitcoin forum is the best choice for companies that want to advertise in BBcode signature campaigns.

They lost a lot of traffic when Bitcointalk impose ban on mixers that's why they try to go on other alternative forum that accept their promotion to stay relevant on crypto community. The less visited forum has benefiting it, since we could see that after Bitcointalk decide to take mixer out here there's lots of mixer campaigns come on other forum. There's no doubt that casinos would get more better result than the other least one because Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum here.

But for sure if more campaigns would launch there then there's good chance that the forum where those mixer campaigns stays would grow more since their small campaigns would provably gather the attention of people.

No doubt bitcointalk is really the best choice, that's the reason why lots of companies goes here because they know that they can possibly get more traffic from legitimate  Bitcoin and crypto users.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I just created an account here and want to complete the verification but unfortunately my country is not listed in KYC level 2 even though my country is not included in the restricted list, this is a bit strange but I know the problem is with the third party that provides live KYC.  You know even almost all countries in the Southeast Asian region not available. This is not the first time I have completed live KYC in other casinos it's fine, so I suggest Rainbet also provide non live KYC.

I also contacted support regarding this issue and they said I can skip KYC level 2 but I don't want to take the risk I mean get trapped later. I'm not a whale player but no one knows when luck will come.

[btc_angela]

Yes, I'm aware that there are smaller forums, but it seems that the mixer signature has move there and less likely for casino campaign as this is the best.

Not the first choice, but it's the only choice they have unless the admin ban crypto base casino signature campaigns which I don't to happen as it crypto base signature campaigns brought a lot of traffic here, hence, it's a win win situation for us and for the admin itself.

They moved there because they had no other choices or amongst many remaining choices with some forums, it's their best remaining choice. You can see a fact that some gambling companies run their signature campaigns firstly in Bitcointalk then tried to run their test campaigns in that forum and after a short time they stopped that test campaigns and never run it again. This action means something about quality of Bitcoin forum and that one, as well as how better effects from a campaign hosted here.

If that forum can bring better effects to companies than this Bitcoin forum, it would have been a most favorite choice rather than this forum. Fortunately, Bitcoin forum is the best choice for companies that want to advertise in BBcode signature campaigns.

They lost a lot of traffic when Bitcointalk impose ban on mixers that's why they try to go on other alternative forum that accept their promotion to stay relevant on crypto community. The less visited forum has benefiting it, since we could see that after Bitcointalk decide to take mixer out here there's lots of mixer campaigns come on other forum. There's no doubt that casinos would get more better result than the other least one because Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum here.

But for sure if more campaigns would launch there then there's good chance that the forum where those mixer campaigns stays would grow more since their small campaigns would provably gather the attention of people.

No doubt bitcointalk is really the best choice, that's the reason why lots of companies goes here because they know that they can possibly get more traffic from legitimate  Bitcoin and crypto users.

Yes, no question about it, this is the best and I will say this is already authoritative community when we talk about links in terms of SEO/SMM approach. But times have change, there's no longer allowed to have m i x e r campaigns so the service will have to look somewhere.

But for gambling, this is the best, how many times we've seen gambling campaign like every month or two there will a new one who wanted to promote here. So it's a win win for gamblers here.

[peter0425]

No doubt bitcointalk is really the best choice, that's the reason why lots of companies goes here because they know that they can possibly get more traffic from legitimate  Bitcoin and crypto users.

It is no doubt that there really are more users in here than the one alternative to this forum. There is more activity here and more constructive discussions so it only makes sense for more campaigns to exist here. Companies would want to go where money is.

I think they just have to be patient as the true impact of any campaign can't be measured in the short term, one month is far too brief. A minimum of six months is needed to properly assess whether the marketing effort actually strengthens brand awareness. Just look at other campaigns that have run for over a year; their continued operation proves long-term effectiveness.

As previously said, as unfortunate as it is, a lot of businesses do not have the budget that established platform and have and they end up being overshadowed and unsuccessful anyway. They can ask help from the forum members to join their campaign and promote their platform but they would need to be giving good incentives for the members to be interested and motivated.

[ultrloa]

I think they just have to be patient as the true impact of any campaign can't be measured in the short term, one month is far too brief. A minimum of six months is needed to properly assess whether the marketing effort actually strengthens brand awareness. Just look at other campaigns that have run for over a year; their continued operation proves long-term effectiveness.

As previously said, as unfortunate as it is, a lot of businesses do not have the budget that established platform and have and they end up being overshadowed and unsuccessful anyway. They can ask help from the forum members to join their campaign and promote their platform but they would need to be giving good incentives for the members to be interested and motivated.

Well they can't also expect to earn success if they don't have budget since running a business cost a lot since you need to have big budget to spend so that your brand will be known to public. And there's nothing its so rare that they will be notice in short period of time. So usually they need to sustain their campaign for long time to possible see the result. I believe in span of 9 - 1 year they provably could see the result of their marketing effort done.

But if they do it on weeks then provably the chance for them is so high since there are so many businesses or competitors running around and provably they will be out shadowed especially if their opponent is consistent on doing attractive campaigns and offer lot of stuffs to the community.

[logfiles]

I just created an account here and want to complete the verification but unfortunately my country is not listed in KYC level 2 even though my country is not included in the restricted list, this is a bit strange but I know the problem is with the third party that provides live KYC.  You know even almost all countries in the Southeast Asian region not available. This is not the first time I have completed live KYC in other casinos it's fine, so I suggest Rainbet also provide non live KYC.

I also contacted support regarding this issue and they said I can skip KYC level 2 but I don't want to take the risk I mean get trapped later. I'm not a whale player but no one knows when luck will come.

By skipping, does that mean in case they need other levels of KYC verification in the near further, they won't bother you asking for the Government issued national IDs or passport?
I have a feeling maybe you country features in some sanction list that is used by the casino as well but not officially listed in the terms of service?

[btc_angela]

I think they just have to be patient as the true impact of any campaign can't be measured in the short term, one month is far too brief. A minimum of six months is needed to properly assess whether the marketing effort actually strengthens brand awareness. Just look at other campaigns that have run for over a year; their continued operation proves long-term effectiveness.

As previously said, as unfortunate as it is, a lot of businesses do not have the budget that established platform and have and they end up being overshadowed and unsuccessful anyway. They can ask help from the forum members to join their campaign and promote their platform but they would need to be giving good incentives for the members to be interested and motivated.

Well they can't also expect to earn success if they don't have budget since running a business cost a lot since you need to have big budget to spend so that your brand will be known to public. And there's nothing its so rare that they will be notice in short period of time. So usually they need to sustain their campaign for long time to possible see the result. I believe in span of 9 - 1 year they provably could see the result of their marketing effort done.

But if they do it on weeks then provably the chance for them is so high since there are so many businesses or competitors running around and provably they will be out shadowed especially if their opponent is consistent on doing attractive campaigns and offer lot of stuffs to the community.

True, it they have the capacity to build a casino, then they should be also have the capacity to build their brand. We have seen successful casinos here running a signature campaigns for many years and they become one of the biggest if not the biggest.

So it's a long process for casino to be recognized and it won't be like overnight.

And they are also willing to spend  a lot of money in their promotions here as this is the biggest crypto base community, and that includes a lot of gamblers. Not just sig campaigns but also competitions and/or review campaigns.

[OcTradism]

True, it they have the capacity to build a casino, then they should be also have the capacity to build their brand. We have seen successful casinos here running a signature campaigns for many years and they become one of the biggest if not the biggest.

So it's a long process for casino to be recognized and it won't be like overnight.

And they are also willing to spend  a lot of money in their promotions here as this is the biggest crypto base community, and that includes a lot of gamblers. Not just sig campaigns but also competitions and/or review campaigns.

A business brand comes from many things, and firstly it starts with their platform, products that need to be attractive and useful for customers. Later, it's turn of marketing to expose their brand to more people, and expand their business to more communities. Marketing intiatives potentially can help their brand to become more popular, but whether it is sustainable, and organic or just short term effects is big challenging task for the company.

They must have strategic marketing to make sure things are as most organic impactful as possible because it will help their marketing programs more chance of prolonging with time.

[BABY SHOES]

I just created an account here and want to complete the verification but unfortunately my country is not listed in KYC level 2 even though my country is not included in the restricted list, this is a bit strange but I know the problem is with the third party that provides live KYC.  You know even almost all countries in the Southeast Asian region not available. This is not the first time I have completed live KYC in other casinos it's fine, so I suggest Rainbet also provide non live KYC.

I also contacted support regarding this issue and they said I can skip KYC level 2 but I don't want to take the risk I mean get trapped later. I'm not a whale player but no one knows when luck will come.

After checking it is not on the list for Indonesia to do the KYC process, maybe the third party forgot about it?
But it's better to skip this KYC because you're not a pope, you probably won't have any problems, or you can ask for manual KYC verification through support, is that possible?
But I didn't do KYC in the first place while the casino never asked for it.

[KingsDen]

I just created an account here and want to complete the verification but unfortunately my country is not listed in KYC level 2 even though my country is not included in the restricted list, this is a bit strange but I know the problem is with the third party that provides live KYC.  You know even almost all countries in the Southeast Asian region not available. This is not the first time I have completed live KYC in other casinos it's fine, so I suggest Rainbet also provide non live KYC.

I also contacted support regarding this issue and they said I can skip KYC level 2 but I don't want to take the risk I mean get trapped later. I'm not a whale player but no one knows when luck will come.

After checking it is not on the list for Indonesia to do the KYC process, maybe the third party forgot about it?
But it's better to skip this KYC because you're not a pope, you probably won't have any problems, or you can ask for manual KYC verification through support, is that possible?
But I didn't do KYC in the first place while the casino never asked for it.

Can you screenshot the suggestions of the support to skip lv2 KYC incase of the future? Even though you are not a whale player, I know your fears. You could hit the jackpot and KYC will trap you.
Just ensure that there is a resounding assurance from the support that you can skip the KYC, it will be fine.

[Makus]

It's true but a casino must start with trial advertisement and assess results from it, before they can expand it longer. All casinos must have very good results fro campaign to make it long lasting and they surely must have very sustainable businesss revenue that is partially from the campaign effects, to be able running the campaign for a long time.

The problem is that they’re unlikely to see any results that could give them insights into how effective a signature campaign can be if they run it for only a short period, like a week or two.
IMHO, they don’t need to do that at all as they can draw conclusions from their competitors who have been running signature campaigns for years. They just need to ask: why would they keep doing it if it wasn’t beneficial for their business? No company would keep spending such an amount of money and effort if they weren’t already satisfied with the results.

Yeah you're on point mate, no one would want to spend money on thin air without  getting a result  from the process, though when it comes to signature  campaign it might take a while before they start receiving the results they aim in having and some the best results from signature campaign  are gotten  from long-term campaign because  from that, alot of publicity  has been done on the signature  campaign. Aside running just runing a signature  campaign their other factors that can determine if a casino would be accepted by the audience. I have seen cases on multiple  occasions where casinos redesign their website and makes the interface more user friendly by adding some attractive colors and uniqueness. 

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Can you screenshot the suggestions of the support to skip lv2 KYC incase of the future? E

I didn't take a screenshot but it's recorded in the chat history, yeah that's a good idea although there's no guarantee at least I have some proof
It seems that KYC is just a formality because if you don't go through KYC it doesn't have any impact, or maybe I need to explore further
By the way thanks for this suggestion you are one of the witnesses 

maybe the third party forgot about it?
you can ask for manual KYC verification through support, is that possible?

That's what I thought, especially since I checked the license and wasn't familiar with it. Generally my KYC works if license by Curaçao
There is also no way for manual KYC that's why they suggest to ignore KYC level2. I consider KYC not as a whale player but as a long term player
who knows this casino might offer something that makes me comfortable to keep playing or at least i have luck here

[notocactus]

That's what I thought, especially since I checked the license and wasn't familiar with it. Generally my KYC works if license by Curaçao
There is also no way for manual KYC that's why they suggest to ignore KYC level2. I consider KYC not as a whale player but as a long term player
who knows this casino might offer something that makes me comfortable to keep playing or at least i have luck here

If you don't  want your acount and fund have issues with KYC later, let's complete KYC for your account before depositing money and using your account for bets. I mean KYC with your legit documents, not purchased one from dark market because if you do this, and the casino ask you to reverify, you will have big troubles.

Long term or short term, if you are serious with deposit money, KYC first but I know it is only makes sense if you are okay with KYC.