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January 03, 2024, 07:28:21 PM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.

You are absolutely right,14 times without some sort of rigging is impossible,simply the probability and statistics will never give right to such person.You can be a genius at math and never be able to win the lottery for the simple fact that everything relies on luck.

It is impossible based on statistics and probability and every statistician will never agree with this guy until very strong proof evidence is provided that the guy truly won 14 times without rigging or cheating in that lottery.Nothing is impossible in the world as long as luck hits you but I strongly believe luck does not hit you 14 times in games of luck.

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January 03, 2024, 08:38:06 PM
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If only by mathematical calculations someone can win the lottery 14 times in a row, that means that the average person who is smart in mathematics can do that, but in reality until now I have rarely heard of people who are smart in mathematics winning the lottery. So I think he's smart in math and it has nothing to do with his win, he's just trying to find an alibi for his win by saying that "I'm good at math", when what actually happened was that he found a loophole in a lottery game and took advantage of it along with his syndicate.
Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.

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January 03, 2024, 08:40:42 PM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Lottery is complete luck.  There are odds involved but you can skew the odds in your favor since lotteries are random every single time.  Past trends does not mean it will continue.  Any trend is a mere coincidence and should not be used as a forecast model.  Now if the lottery is rigged or not completely random that's another thing but I don't think that's what we are talking about here.

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January 03, 2024, 08:55:47 PM
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.

Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery

1. Calculate the total number of possible combinations. (For a lottery that requires you to pick six numbers from 1 to 40, that means 3,838,380 combinations.)

2.Find lotteries where the jackpot is three times or more the number of possible combinations.

3.Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)

4.Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)

5.Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.

6.Win the cash. And don't forget to pay your investors. (Mandel pocketed $97,000 after a $1.3 million win in 1987.)

I think I've seen this in the movie.

This is very similar, try to check the thriller of the movie. Jerry & Marge Go Large – Official Trailer Starring Bryan Cranston & Annette Bening (They said, they are professional lottery players) Grin
I saw this movie, it was a nice movie to watch. the people who ran winfall lottery really messed up.

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January 03, 2024, 09:01:31 PM
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I feel like I believe and don't believe. How is it possible for someone to win this kind of gambling up to fourteen times, just by using simple mathematical calculations? This is truly something beyond my previous expectations. So that makes me a little doubtful about the truth of what you convey.

Remembering that mathematics says that gambling will only result in losses. and what's more, this is the type of gambling that is the most difficult to win and the most complicated to be able to produce truly precise number analysis. This is the type of gambling with the lowest win rate.
And in the last few years I have been a lottery gambler, as long as I placed bets on this type of gambling I was only able to achieve one win and that wasn't much, just a small win. Until finally I gave up and stopped buying lottery tickets.

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I don't trust and I don't believe in the lottery, for example in my country, lottery winners don't show their face when they collect the money they won, but ironically when the same lottery company offers a new car to the winner of a contest held by the company, they show the face of the person who won the new car and they are cars that cost a lot of money, even having the same value of money that they give to lottery winners, so if the reason for not showing the face of the winner of the lottery in my country, is for the safety of the winners, then it doesn't make any sense. because the same lottery company shows the faces of the winners of other prizes. I started to be very suspicious of my country's lottery

and the many competitions that are held in my country, because I never see any winner walking down the street and posting the prize they won on their social networks, which makes everything very strange. I have seen in the news about lottery winners in other countries, it seems to me that they are real winners, because TV programs usually interview the winners and talk about their lives as it was before they won the lottery and after winning the lottery, they also talk with the relatives and friends of the person who won the lottery, but I have never seen them talk to someone who had won the lottery twice, so much so that I even thought it was impossible.

Now I'm seeing a story about someone who says they won the lottery 14 times, if I already think it's impossible to win the lottery 2 times, imagine someone telling me about winning 14 times, I'll immediately say that it's absurd, something impossible. Without a doubt, it must be a concerted thing to make many people buy lottery tickets thinking that they can win constantly, these lottery companies are very intelligent and are experts at lying

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January 03, 2024, 09:33:55 PM
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Honestly, I couldn't believe it --nothing happens in real life and I believe that there are no mathematical calculations that support it other than luck. In order to increase your winning chance in the lottery, you will also buy more tickets but if we think it is because of the said calculation, that is somewhat unbelievable.

In fact, so many people got into the lottery and even spent thousands every day but still got unlucky. Some people will say that their manipulation lottery especially when managed by the government.

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January 03, 2024, 09:34:57 PM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

The skills also the important one in the gambling,because the gambling had the two way of gate.One is the sports betting,which is based on your sports knowledge,sometimes it also favour the person on their luck.But the casino game in the gambling site was purely based on the analytical skills of the gamblers.If you are good at numbers and mathematical probability,you will get more chance to win the money from the casino game in the gambling site.So this 14 times win never seems fishy for me.

Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.

Not all the gamblers had more IQ because the society with all level of IQ level.The gambling site provide the casino game for the more IQ people like dice,slot games.The average or less IQ people can use the sports betting in the gambling site.So we need to use the gambling site based on our IQ level and we should share this idea to the gamblers in your circle to avoid of loss in gambling site.
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January 03, 2024, 09:49:47 PM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

HAHA! Winning the lottery 14 times? Sorry that is just pure crap and BS at the same time. I doubt that he really won the lottery as he tried to rationalize by saying that he used "simple math" for it. If it were that simple per se, then everyone would be winning twice-thrice by now. The fact that lightning does not strike the same person twice heavily implies that winning the lottery is almost a once-in-a-lifetime venture due to the significant low odds of winning, yet this guy won 14 times?

I agree with everyone here that this guy is just pure BS. If he knew such "simple math," then why couldn't he win at least everyday or like 15 times? Again, this is definitely rigged and there is perhaps someone controlling the system from the inside.

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January 03, 2024, 09:58:41 PM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
If we do speak about mathematical concerns specially on lotteries then it is really indeed relevant considering on the odds and chances that we do know for a certain individual on making those hits.
The hard thing only here is that there's no way that you could be able to hit up those combinations so easily on which it is really that close to impossible if we do speak about odds or chances.
Just like the rest been saying that im not that a fan on clicking up some random links too online, so i would really be just simply basing up on what others been talking about.

Did see up some links talking on the same headline.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-win-lottery-romanian-mathematician-hacked-system-stefan-mandel-a8527556.html

Seems like that this man would be banned forever in participating lotteries. lol.
If ever this one is true then i dont see for those current existing lotteries to be in panic.  Cool

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January 03, 2024, 09:59:31 PM
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
how possible is it to oppose a pre-programmed domain?..lottery would be the least on my list to suggest... Live games would even give more hopes than assurance... with these facts, I feel it's 100% about how lucky you can possibly be.

How do you think this is even possible?? You don't just believe anything you see on the net, do you? 14 times in a row or could it be 14 times in his entire life?? What sorcery would that be?

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January 04, 2024, 07:42:18 PM
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Bloggers will post anything for traffic. I’m sure they did not verify the story before posting. The story sounds like it was written in a movie. It’s impracticable to win the lottery 14 times in a row. The system is designed by professionals in a way that house always have the advantage. Casinos cannot afford to have people rigging their machines. After your first five consecutive wins, the casino would suspect foul play and investigate. And if they don’t find any proof of foul play, you would still be under the radar and likely other casinos would have heard of you.
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January 04, 2024, 08:31:28 PM
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Is this information really valid? Because I don't feel confident enough in this information. Remembering that this is the most difficult gamble to win... and when talking about risk, the risk of losing is very big. And the possibility of winning it is just zero point a few percent. And I think that this kind of gambling game just relies on luck. And how is it possible that such a person can have that much luck. And if indeed he did a calculation using a simple formula in mathematics, I just wonder what kind of calculation he did and which formula he used. And doesn't mathematics say that gambling is a loss?

I personally have done this type of gambling and I have even bought lots of lottery tickets, with the hope that the more tickets I buy, the greater my chances of winning. But in fact that's not the case, I didn't win even once. Even though I have done an analysis which I think the results are quite good. And in the end I decided not to buy lottery tickets anymore.

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January 04, 2024, 09:11:13 PM
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.
If ever there's some loophole like this on winning up the lottery, which means that in the past they might be able to bet on their own and would really be able to win up their own lotteries?
I dont know if its just me or what, because if there's such method do exist then it would really be that basically means that they might be using it up in the past and it turns out
that someone had been able to see such thing or discover then they would really be making those adjustments or fixes just to make them look that they are innocent about those probabilities?

Its true that winning up 14x on a lottery would really be raising up those kind of questions and would really be proving out that there's really indeed a huge problem into this system.
Using up mathematics on this one? Then he's really that indeed a genius.

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January 04, 2024, 09:32:52 PM
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.
If ever there's some loophole like this on winning up the lottery, which means that in the past they might be able to bet on their own and would really be able to win up their own lotteries?
I dont know if its just me or what, because if there's such method do exist then it would really be that basically means that they might be using it up in the past and it turns out
that someone had been able to see such thing or discover then they would really be making those adjustments or fixes just to make them look that they are innocent about those probabilities?

Its true that winning up 14x on a lottery would really be raising up those kind of questions and would really be proving out that there's really indeed a huge problem into this system.
Using up mathematics on this one? Then he's really that indeed a genius.

it can happen if all the possible combination of numbers is a defined one, not infinity. so with certain numbers involved, you can already calculate all possible combinations. and if you have such number of computers to print all those tickets, that is if they allow you to print your own, and the money to fund all those tickets. the likelihood of getting such winnings are actually high.

just watch the movie Jerry and Marge Go Large, and you will clearly understand how they do it, and yes, it is all math. but that is, you only have limited numbers involved that you can pay for most of the tickets involved.

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Bloggers will post anything for traffic. I’m sure they did not verify the story before posting. The story sounds like it was written in a movie. It’s impracticable to win the lottery 14 times in a row. The system is designed by professionals in a way that house always have the advantage. Casinos cannot afford to have people rigging their machines. After your first five consecutive wins, the casino would suspect foul play and investigate. And if they don’t find any proof of foul play, you would still be under the radar and likely other casinos would have heard of you.

Some of the story will have the positive impact to the society,some will spread the negative impact to the society and the gambling community.If the gambler made the million dollars as their winning from the lotttery,if the story had the valid proof.Then many new people get into the gambling site for the big win.Because they try to register their name on the next jackpot of that gambling site.If the parent of the kid had loss school fee of money in the gambling site,this will teach the gambler to understand the real value of the money and it’s wrong to use the important money of your family expenses in the gambling site.Because gambling site had two sided coin as the result.

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Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.


Conlcusively, if I understand you correctly, it is the rarity of mathematicians and statisticians that has made humanity believe that having a repititive wining of up to 14 times isn't possible?

If this is the case, even though he is a mathematician and not his type is found everywhere, that country isn't the country that has lottery running, other countries do too and there is no way another mathematician would not have gianed entry into the lottery system and has not recorded back to back winning. But it is just rare like you said, even to hear of another person having the same recurrent winning.


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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
14x lotto jackpot winner yet did not stopped betting? the first 3-5x is more than enough for Him to feed his family up to  their 3rd -5th generation yet this person still betting?
better ask what site are they affiliate so they need to push people believing there is any possible way to gather such money 14x being a winner , we cannot even win a single .









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Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.


Conlcusively, if I understand you correctly, it is the rarity of mathematicians and statisticians that has made humanity believe that having a repititive wining of up to 14 times isn't possible?

If this is the case, even though he is a mathematician and not his type is found everywhere, that country isn't the country that has lottery running, other countries do too and there is no way another mathematician would not have gianed entry into the lottery system and has not recorded back to back winning. But it is just rare like you said, even to hear of another person having the same recurrent winning.



I think it is not only due to mathematical calculations, I remember that I had a professor at the University, when I saw the subject of Probability and Statistics , where he emphasized something very interesting, where he said that if he Saw that a person won the lottery, he He was asking me to buy the lottery again, because it was very likely that he would win the lottery again, and then he said that the person who wins the lottery once can continue winning it again, which was something trivial, in fact that I was very surprised at that moment, I can remember it at this Moment as if it were present there, and if it is something that could happen, there is no mathematical formula for that, maybe there is something called luck in those people, which you do is hard to believe For many, but in some way that happens, I don't know the explanation, because when he said it in class, no one gave it so much importance, maybe some didn't even believe him , but there have been cases where yes, that is true.

Also, not only because of what they Say here in the thread , I know a guy who always wins lories, and that wins cars, he wins many things, white goods , in fact he is not even Aware of what they are doing at that moment in the raffle, the Last time he won a last Molding road, of the year, apart from everything for a white line and he won other things , Apart from I think it was $5 apart, and when he was sleeping they called him and went to his house to tell him that it was the happy Winner of that, he couldn't believe it, then at the same time he came back to play and Won again, another truck, then I say this actually Happens , and I told him , Keep playing because the most likely thing is that you will still win , of course In fact, he Also won a 350 truck , something that Seemed very difficult to get right and he did it , his trick is that he always plays the same number in all lotteries, the pro is that when he wins, he makes it bigger, He Really has a lot of Strength, and something I Admire a lot.

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14x lotto jackpot winner yet did not stopped betting? the first 3-5x is more than enough for Him to feed his family up to  their 3rd -5th generation yet this person still betting?
better ask what site are they affiliate so they need to push people believing there is any possible way to gather such money 14x being a winner , we cannot even win a single .
As we know, gambling can be very tempting for someone who has won more than seven times in a row but doesn't immediately stop gambling. When he gets his third win and wants to continue gambling, his greed will emerge and even higher when he can get the next win. And if he doesn't stop gambling after his big win, he is very greedy because he wants another big win.

Getting a big win, like winning a jackpot prize, is very difficult, but he can get it. He must be able to appreciate his victory and not continue gambling. Otherwise, he will only experience a lot of losses and he may lose all the money from his jackpot prize.

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