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January 04, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2024, 10:19:10 PM by wwzsocki
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I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator

as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

Malevolent, our current moderator, has been offline for 9 months. He did a great job, but such a long absence is definitely too long. The lack of merit source is one problem, but the lack of moderation affects the quality of the Polish section much more, I notice that it often turns into garbage. For example, in the thread that talks about how large the number 2^256 is, we have been talking about the zero-value attack for 16 posts, which definitely deserves a separate thread, but there is no one to separate it and move it to. In the signature thread we talk about how casinos can be used to mix bitcoin. In the thread about the price of bitcoin, we are talking about ETF, and the thread about ETF is next to it and is little used. There are many such examples, and appropriate separation of discussions into separate threads would increase the quality of the conversation and the transparency of the forum. Malevolent took care of this as well as doing so upon request. It's normal that sometimes someone will refer to something and someone else will pick up on a topic in a thread that doesn't concern it. The role of the moderator is to keep things in order. Apart from cleaning, we are also exposed to spam and scam advertisements. It's strange that it hasn't hit us yet. I suggest nominating someone who will apply for a temporary moderator who will be a replacement until Malevolent returns, or even longer if he proves successful. Anyone interested?

We discussed that matter many times already in our local board, in quoted thread we decided finally to vote and choose a candidate.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477539

I have won that voting, so I started this thread, hope this is correct way to apply as mod?
Please let me know and if not I will edit this topic or start new one and apply in a correct way.

Am I good candidate?
I've been here on the forum more then 10 years and always helped to moderate it by reporting spam and bots. I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently.

Is worth to add that I am mod in Altcoinstalks forum for Polish local board from a very long time, i was mod in German and Dutch section when it was still new, am also a judge in court where people can apply for help when they get in trouble.

I think all of this makes me well fitted for this role, even as a second moderator or backup for the time of Malevolent absence, hope he will be back soon and I will be happy to step out when this happens.

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January 04, 2024, 09:13:24 PM
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I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? I think application is only for merit source while theymos selects moderators. Besides, there have been many inactive moderators in the general forum and theymos hasn't replaced them.


as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

We discussed that matter many times already in our local board, in quoted thread we decided finally to vote and choose a candidate.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477539
Nice that your locals organised this themselves and came up with a winner. I also see that Cygan is a member of your local.

I have won the voting, so I started this thread, hope this is correct way to apply as mod?
Please let me know and if not I will edit this topic or start new one and apply in a correct way.
Congratulations! But I am not sure theymos works that way, otherwise I could also go to my locals and organise such a poll for merit source and moderation and I can eventually win.

Am I good candidate?
I've been here on the forum more then 10 years and always helped to moderate it by reporting spam and bots. I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently. Keep reporting spam frequently.
If it is about being a good candidate, I am certain that you qualified and being able to emerge the winner of the voting of your people is another evidence.

Is worth to add that I am mod in Altcoinstalks forum for Polish local board from a very long time, i was mod in German and Dutch section when it was still new, am also a judge in court where people can apply for help when they get in trouble.
I think the above portfolios doesn't matter, what really matters is your reputation here and the number of good reports.
WAIT: Did you say you are a judge? Maybe mixer owners may want to sue theymos in your court Grin

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January 04, 2024, 09:54:37 PM
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Am not sure if moderator = merit source so definitely it would be a big benefit for us on the polish board on the other hand wwzsocki seems a capable at an attempt to bring back some life to Polish Local Forum Board as the activity is dying down and on top of that there is no way to organise the threds ie. moderate
IMHO value of merit points is related to amount of advertising campaigns that people can apply for which with the space being saturated with huge number of competing projects reached certain threshold bringing the effectives of signature campaign down for the satoshi spent   
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January 04, 2024, 10:25:31 PM
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I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? ...

don't know TBH, this is why I also ask if this is a correct way

not only we don't know that but also few other Legendary and pretty active here members are not sure, so let's assume that this is not certain and i will wait for other members to comment on this.

I also haven't seen anybody that applied and was chosen but i never follow or followed meta closely. When we were talking in our local board such a way of application seemed to be the right way, especially if there was voting and all active lately members took part in it (yes there are only few of us left)


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January 04, 2024, 10:29:02 PM
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I'm not a member of the Polish board but I think the OP deserves some attention from Theymos. OP is one of the best candidates for that board and everyone should agree with me. I don't know if it's the correct way to apply for a moderator or not but if Theymos reads such posts then I hope he may also consider OP's application.

I don't know if my support means anything or not but if it means anything then count me in. I support the OP and I want to see how much support the OP will get on this thread from his own local board members. Best of luck from my side. I believe you're a good candidate to become a moderator. But, the final decision is of course in the hands of Theymos.

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January 04, 2024, 11:56:58 PM
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I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications?
I found a post(quoted below) by Mitchell from 2015 where he said he PM'ed Theymos and applied for the moderator spot on Dutch subsection when it became available. but then again, that post was from 2015 so I am not sure you can apply like that today.
I became a moderator because PsychoticBoy quit and there was nobody assigned to moderate the Dutch subsection. I sent theymos a message in which I applied for that spot and got it.

also, according to Welsh who posted this thread(quoted post below) "how do mod get selected? do they get paid?", Theymos picks moderators if the forum needs one.
Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year, but yeah on a serious note theymos selects moderators based on whether the forum requires one. Obviously, frequent reporters will be on top of that list, but ultimately theymos is the only one who knows all the criteria. I expect, there's quite a few different factors that play into it.

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Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? I think application is only for merit source while theymos selects moderators. Besides, there have been many inactive moderators in the general forum and theymos hasn't replaced them.


as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

The only difference is that there are other mods and if general forum doesn't turn into garbage, you can assume that they have effectively taken over the responsibilities of the absent ones and are keeping up with their tasks. The problem with the Polish section is that we have had 0 moderators there for almost 10 months. There is no one to remove spam, there is no one to clean threads. We didn't know how to approach it, how to publicize the fact that we currently don't have our "Texas Ranger" for so long and finaly how to get a new mod. We decided to go the merit source route, i.e. choose the best candidate from ourselves and propose it here. If you have any advice on how to do it better and achieve success, we'd love to hear it.

I think the above portfolios doesn't matter, what really matters is your reputation here and the number of good reports.

Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?
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Let's check past calls of forum admin when there was need for forum moderators. You can read to see how moderators were chosen in the past. Main factors can be personal reports and community support (vote).


It is the case of @mole0815 who was appointed years ago. A latest appointed moderator if I am right.
There will only be one moderator.

Report history is the most important consideration for a moderator candidate. Over the forum's many years, relatively "newbie" members with good report histories have consistently done much better as mods than veteran, well-respected members with poor report histories. That said, not all reports are equal, so a simple report count doesn't tell the whole story. Also, in addition to report histories, it's necessary to consider factors such as the ability of the candidate to be neutral, their trustworthiness, etc. It's also nice to choose a moderator who people generally already trust/respect, but sometimes this is outweighed by other factors.

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Here are the top non-bad report counts for the German sections over the last 6 months, along with the German boards which those reports covered (broader coverage being better).
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| o_solo_miner   |      69 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| mole0815       |      57 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| Souri          |      57 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| bct_ail        |      29 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Presse , Projektentwicklung, Trading und Spekulation
| 1miau          |      27 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Presse
| fronti         |      27 | Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| asche          |      17 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Deutsch (German), Trading und Spekulation
| Lafu           |      16 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Trading und Spekulation
| willi9974      |      13 | Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Suche
| yxt            |      13 | Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Trading und Spekulation
(My previous list of candidates came from the same list as above, in order, but the numbers have changed since then.)

One proposal years ago: Suggestion to update the obsolete moderators from various boards / child boards.

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Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?

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Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?

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It doesn't have to be me, it can also be the second candidate @Tytanowy Janusz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1925869) or any other person, most important is to get a mod in our local board

I stated clearly that i will step out when @malevolent will be back, don't ask for any benefits, just wanted to help

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When it comes to what I do, I run many services here on forum from years with success, there are plenty of members that worked with me as workers, clients, team mates, that I have cooperation with, they are entitled to give opinion and many left feedback if my services are trustworthy, not you because i don't recall working with you, we even haven't spoken once, so why you jump on me? because of shill word or chatters used on my website and offers, common, grow up.  

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@Lokas0506 is a great member from Polish local board, on forum from years, active and we agreed that Polish members will support this thread so they comment here of course.

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looks like you are looking for every occasion to make drama, I don't like personal fights, this is also why this discussion ends for me here

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Lol, so you wanna become an official mod?

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.
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Well said TytanowyJanusz
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...Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

I think, done 3K reports already with 99% success rate

...I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently...

I haven't checked my stats for a while, here are they:



exactly 3063 reports with 100% accuracy, I am surprised myself  Shocked

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Well, when it was needed to state my opinion about one of your compatriots on a merit source application, nobody called me a scammer, but as soon as I just stated a publicly known fact, I became a scammer? FYI, a mod should have some peace making skills to demonstrate, instead of ignoring the fact that this bozo lokas0506 just accused me of scam, he should have done a 5 min read to see if I'm actually a scammer or not, in order to correct this bozo. Typical tribal mindset, to discriminate against "strangers".

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Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?
You should refrain from your dirty attack towards wwzsocki or lokas0506 by your nasty replies!
Polish members are united to get a moderator.

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.

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I don't remember where I read it, But I guess I have seen such words like What is the qualification for moderator and there was an answer like You should not ask to be a moderator. I would like to call our AI LoyceV for that because he remembers almost 99% of the writings that theymos wrote regarding these matters. Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.

To be a moderator, your report stats and your contribution to the forum should be enough. I don't know if community support matters or not. But if it matters, then I support your application even though I am not your local. You have been there for a long time and you are a experienced campaigner.

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Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.
I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

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I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.
It can be Welsh. He shared his experience on how he became a moderator in his several posts and he was chosen as a moderator in like ICO spam waves in Bitcointalk.

Here is a post of Welsh but he wrote some posts about this in different topics like his interview's answers that has some interesting information about tasks of forum moderators and how they work.

Pretty much, and I've been reporting for years. However,  I really ramped up my daily reports in the last 12 months or so before getting asked if I'd like to be a moderator. I was probably hitting a 1000 on a good day (or bad depending how you see it). At one point I was literally waking up, and putting in a hour before work, and then a few hours before bed. I pretty much made it my unofficial job to clear up all the shit that was getting posted. This was during a time where spam was everywhere you looked because of the popularity of Bitcoin back then. Handling reports takes a lot more time than making reports though, because I didn't really care for accuracy back then, and now I've got to do proper research before handling a report to avoid as many issues as possible, and of course we still make mistakes.

This is a moderator was appointed when a member rank is very low, Halab.
I'll answer you with my example.
Registered in July 2017.
Appointed mod of the french section in July 2018 with the rank of member and 13 or 14 merits.
I wasn't the most active. I am far from having all the knowledge about Bitcoin. I'm not the most fluent in english, I hope I'm just understandable.
So you see the criteria for a local mod are not high. It must be higher for a mod in US section or a Global Mod.

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January 07, 2024, 02:29:47 AM
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Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.
I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

I don't remember that. But, I guess I have seen somewhere you or someone else quoted, and the phrase was similar like "You should not ask to be a moderator" is the first condition to be a moderator. Maybe other criteria were posted by theymos several times in several threads.

Anyway, I guess this part is the most important and wwzsocki may want to keep it in mind;

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

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why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

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