[Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9

[pinggoki]

If we are talking about Ngannou here, he has only 1 fight as a pro-boxer, but I do agree that he might have been robbed against Fury. Maybe everyone is on the bag as they don't want to derail Usyk vs Fury fight as a lot is on the line. But in this fight, if Ngannou is no longer just a hype job, he could really push Joshua to the limit here. Joshua has been mentality broken in Ruiz and Usyk fight. And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the power of Ngannou, there's no doubt that he's going to kill everyone that he's punching if he does punch with all of his might. Have you seen the videos where Joe Rogan and Dana White vouched for his strength? That alone should be enough to make you believe that Ngannou will demolish Joshua in this fight, the derail part of that isn't the reason for the loss, it's the corrupt boxing federation that's creating this problem, the deserving don't win and the favorite gets the favors of the judges and Ngannou's no hype job, he can deliver what people are telling others about him.

Here's one of the times that Rogan talked about Ngannou's punching power

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https://youtube.com/shorts/WzYIICl-xqk?si=4cDRUZsnlLAhRhKn

Here's the one where Dana talks about the punching power of Ngannou

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https://youtube.com/shorts/1KiqYXMlQQQ?si=r-Y_7HQcfW472fOR

[mirakal]

And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

Ngannou doesn't have a good gas tank. His mouth was already wide open as early as the second round. But I admire him for knowing how to save it. His style doesn't consume much energy. He's not throwing away useless punches here and there. So even if his tank is already running low, he can still very much throw his strong punch. And considering that Joshua has this problem as well, it's totally fine for Ngannou to have this limit.

His mouth was already from round one, so we can't tell if he was really tired starting from round 2. In fact, he knocked Fury down in round 3, that means he still have the strenght to throw power punches. Maybe in the later rounds he got tired as he could not defend well the jabs thrown to him, and IMO, that's the reason why he lose in that fight.

If Joshua was at the receiving end of that knockdown blow of Ngannou against Fury, the fight could have ended in a KO.

That's for sure, I completely agree with you. Joshua has a weak chin, so I don't think he'll be able to stand up after that huge hit, or if he could stand up againt he would still be finish in the same round if there's still enough time.

[Inwestour]

His mouth was already from round one, so we can't tell if he was really tired starting from round 2. In fact, he knocked Fury down in round 3, that means he still have the strenght to throw power punches. Maybe in the later rounds he got tired as he could not defend well the jabs thrown to him, and IMO, that's the reason why he lose in that fight.

I wouldn’t regard the judges’ decision in that fight as fairly fair, but perhaps giving Ngannou the victory would also have been too easy. The Fury did not win this fight is a fact, Ngannou fought with the champion and his victory should have been certain, I really hope that he realizes this and knocks Joshua out.

Joshua sees this fight with Ngannou as a chance for himself to prove that he can return to the top fighters, but for some reason I think that this fight can break him even more, because I think that Ngannou is capable of defeating Joshua.

[cabron]

If we are talking about Ngannou here, he has only 1 fight as a pro-boxer, but I do agree that he might have been robbed against Fury. Maybe everyone is on the bag as they don't want to derail Usyk vs Fury fight as a lot is on the line. But in this fight, if Ngannou is no longer just a hype job, he could really push Joshua to the limit here. Joshua has been mentality broken in Ruiz and Usyk fight. And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the power of Ngannou, there's no doubt that he's going to kill everyone that he's punching if he does punch with all of his might. Have you seen the videos where Joe Rogan and Dana White vouched for his strength? That alone should be enough to make you believe that Ngannou will demolish Joshua in this fight, the derail part of that isn't the reason for the loss, it's the corrupt boxing federation that's creating this problem, the deserving don't win and the favorite gets the favors of the judges and Ngannou's no hype job, he can deliver what people are telling others about him.

Here's one of the times that Rogan talked about Ngannou's punching power

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https://youtube.com/shorts/WzYIICl-xqk?si=4cDRUZsnlLAhRhKn

Here's the one where Dana talks about the punching power of Ngannou

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https://youtube.com/shorts/1KiqYXMlQQQ?si=r-Y_7HQcfW472fOR

Although Rogan always has the habit of exaggerating things, I can agree that Ngannou really has to most powerful punch and it's no wonder he knocked down Fury and it wasn't even his full swing. If it was, Fury may not have stood back up again. The Dana speaking right there I think was before Ngannou asked for his freedom to fight in boxing.

Once Ngannou achieves this win,  a lot more fights that Ngannou will face before Fury will ever give him the rematch. The bright side is he will get millions.

[Fundamentals Of]

And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

Ngannou doesn't have a good gas tank. His mouth was already wide open as early as the second round. But I admire him for knowing how to save it. His style doesn't consume much energy. He's not throwing away useless punches here and there. So even if his tank is already running low, he can still very much throw his strong punch. And considering that Joshua has this problem as well, it's totally fine for Ngannou to have this limit.

His mouth was already from round one, so we can't tell if he was really tired starting from round 2. In fact, he knocked Fury down in round 3, that means he still have the strenght to throw power punches. Maybe in the later rounds he got tired as he could not defend well the jabs thrown to him, and IMO, that's the reason why he lose in that fight.

It seems Ngannou was already catching his breath in round 3, but then a strong punch is always a strong punch even when one is already breathing heavily. It might not be as swift, but it will definitely remain powerful when it hits. As the fight continued, it was more obvious that Ngannou was running out of air. And with Tyson having the ability to remain quick until the end, the tired Ngannou was easily outscored.

If Joshua was at the receiving end of that knockdown blow of Ngannou against Fury, the fight could have ended in a KO.

That's for sure, I completely agree with you. Joshua has a weak chin, so I don't think he'll be able to stand up after that huge hit, or if he could stand up againt he would still be finish in the same round if there's still enough time.

Yes, Ngannou showed some tendency to try ending the fight. He suddenly gets aggressive and throws powerful punches. If this was done to Joshua, the fight would have ended. Tyson is a different fighter. Knocking him down doesn't necessarily give you a big advantage.

[yazher]

Yes, Ngannou showed some tendency to try ending the fight. He suddenly gets aggressive and throws powerful punches. If this was done to Joshua, the fight would have ended. Tyson is a different fighter. Knocking him down doesn't necessarily give you a big advantage.

Joshua is not like Fury because based on his past fights, he obviously cannot withstand huge power punches like what has landed on Fury and we all know that Ngannou will train to make punches like that land more accurately on his opponent since he already has the power and if he can easily win against Joshua, then they will gonna make a duology against Fury in his next bout unless if fury will gonna lost against Usyk, then it will be Usyk vs Ngannou next time for more money and surely they will get another big sponsor once again.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Anthony Joshua is coming off his best win since losing his titles to Andy Ruiz.

Nope, he had 3 losses already, first from Andy Ruiz, then two against Oleksandr Usyk.

You can review his record from https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659461

He also had several wins since then but they had left some doubt because he lacked confidence and looked fearful. By beating Wallin so one-sided it convinced people that he is still a viable contender who could be competitive against the best heavyweights. That's as close to prime Joshua as we have seen in several years. If he can win impressively against an opponent that Fury struggled with then he will become the most obvious candidate to face whoever becomes undisputed champion next month.

[hilariousetc]

In almost all of his fights I feel like Ngannou's robbed even though during analysis the other fighter's more powerful, especially during his fight with Fury where I still feel like he should've won that match and one of the very reasons why split decisions shouldn't even be a thing anymore, but I feel like this one's going to be different though. Joshua definitely got his own shit and something to prove for that matter but I feel like he's not gonna fare well in this battle.

If we are talking about Ngannou here, he has only 1 fight as a pro-boxer, but I do agree that he might have been robbed against Fury. Maybe everyone is on the bag as they don't want to derail Usyk vs Fury fight as a lot is on the line. But in this fight, if Ngannou is no longer just a hype job, he could really push Joshua to the limit here. Joshua has been mentality broken in Ruiz and Usyk fight. And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

This fight is where Francis gets to prove himself and show that the first fight wasn't just a fluke. If what Francis said is true that he wasn't using 100% of his power due to fearing he may have gassed out early then that makes him doubly dangerous now. He knows he can up the pressure and not take it as easy as the first fight and no doubt he's improved in training from his first fight too along with hopefully working on his cardio. I was very impressed with how Ngannou fought like a boxer in the Fury fight but I think he needs to combine that with how he fought in the UFC and just use the power he has and try get an early KO which is pretty much how most of his UFC fights went. As people have said, AJ probably has a weaker chin as well so he needs to capitalise on that, but AJ is on a bit of a winning streak right now and seems to be very confident and got his mojo back but that could also be very easily taken away from him too. AJ will be seeing this fight as a chance to get one over on Fury by proxy and do a better job than he did whilst trying to get a fight with Fury next in the process.

And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

Ngannou doesn't have a good gas tank. His mouth was already wide open as early as the second round. But I admire him for knowing how to save it. His style doesn't consume much energy. He's not throwing away useless punches here and there. So even if his tank is already running low, he can still very much throw his strong punch.

He did go the full ten rounds against the current heavyweight champ of the world though so lets give him credit for that. I'm sure he's been working on his cardio too but maybe Francis will try get an early KO this time so he doesn't need to go the distance but if he can do it against Fury I think he can do it against AJ as well.

[pawel7777]

If what Francis said is true that he wasn't using 100% of his power due to fearing he may have gassed out early then that makes him doubly dangerous now.

Maybe there's some truth to that, but he'll have to pace himself anyway. With his >123kg of pure muscles, it won't be easy to stay oxygenated for a full 10 rounds.
I wonder if he'll try to cut more weight for this one. In the fight against Fury, he was the lighter one, but now he'll be over 10kg heavier than Joshua so it would make some sense to drop the weight a little bit to improve his cardio. He'll still have more than enough KO power.

I was very impressed with how Ngannou fought like a boxer in the Fury fight but I think he needs to combine that with how he fought in the UFC and just use the power he has and try get an early KO which is pretty much how most of his UFC fights went.

100% agree. His best bet is to put the pressure on. Boxing gloves might be 2x larger than UFC ones, but for a guy this size, it won't make that big of a difference.
He knows how to counterstrike and how to throw combos other than the one-two, so hopefully we'll see some of that.
Francis is slowly approaching retirement age and doesn't have any time to waste + he's got a lot to win, so I hope he won't be holding back and just trying to survive.

[hilariousetc]

If what Francis said is true that he wasn't using 100% of his power due to fearing he may have gassed out early then that makes him doubly dangerous now.

Maybe there's some truth to that, but he'll have to pace himself anyway. With his >123kg of pure muscles, it won't be easy to stay oxygenated for a full 10 rounds.
I wonder if he'll try to cut more weight for this one. In the fight against Fury, he was the lighter one, but now he'll be over 10kg heavier than Joshua so it would make some sense to drop the weight a little bit to improve his cardio. He'll still have more than enough KO power.

I dunno. I think he should keep his size and just work on cardio, but I'm neither an expert or a trainer haha. One thing he's got is his size and AJ is also very big, so I think he should try to out-muscle him and use his strength and weight to his advantage to try weigh AJ down. This is what Fury usually tries to do to exhaust his opponents but he couldn't do that to Francis as he was just too big and heavy so this is now an advantage for Francis. Like against Fury I don't think Francis can outbox his opponent but as we have seen he can certainly floor his opponent and I think that's what he needs to try do early against AJ so he doesn't get outboxed or worn down over the rounds.

I was very impressed with how Ngannou fought like a boxer in the Fury fight but I think he needs to combine that with how he fought in the UFC and just use the power he has and try get an early KO which is pretty much how most of his UFC fights went.

100% agree. His best bet is to put the pressure on. Boxing gloves might be 2x larger than UFC ones, but for a guy this size, it won't make that big of a difference.
He knows how to counterstrike and how to throw combos other than the one-two, so hopefully we'll see some of that.
Francis is slowly approaching retirement age and doesn't have any time to waste + he's got a lot to win, so I hope he won't be holding back and just trying to survive.

Francis should have improved a lot since the Fury fight. Months of extra training and they at least now know his limits and what sort of gas-tank he has so they can work on his 'weaknesses' if any. I think Francis has got at least a few years left in him yet at 37 and could even be in his peak shape right now so I wouldn't worry too much about age right now. He could easily get in two or maybe three fights a year up until he's 40. Usyk is also the same age and Zhang is even older at 40 and is having the peak performance of his career right now.

[notblox1]

Francis should have improved a lot since the Fury fight. Months of extra training and they at least now know his limits and what sort of gas-tank he has so they can work on his 'weaknesses' if any. I think Francis has got at least a few years left in him yet at 37 and could even be in his peak shape right now so I wouldn't worry too much about age right now. He could easily get in two or maybe three fights a year up until he's 40. Usyk is also the same age and Zhang is even older at 40 and is having the peak performance of his career right now.

Just remember who is going to be in his corner again, the legend Mike Tyson.
With him by his side Ngannou is going to improve a lot, he is going to learn few more boxing tricks, and I think Joshua has much more to lose in this fight than he does.
I just hope refs wont ruin the fight again with some weird decisions just because he is coming with mma background.

[Natalim]

Francis should have improved a lot since the Fury fight. Months of extra training and they at least now know his limits and what sort of gas-tank he has so they can work on his 'weaknesses' if any. I think Francis has got at least a few years left in him yet at 37 and could even be in his peak shape right now so I wouldn't worry too much about age right now. He could easily get in two or maybe three fights a year up until he's 40. Usyk is also the same age and Zhang is even older at 40 and is having the peak performance of his career right now.

Just remember who is going to be in his corner again, the legend Mike Tyson.
With him by his side Ngannou is going to improve a lot, he is going to learn few more boxing tricks, and I think Joshua has much more to lose in this fight than he does.
I just hope refs wont ruin the fight again with some weird decisions just because he is coming with mma background.

Mike Tyson it is, he is very confident with his fighter and I know they'll do better this time. Just look at this, last time he fought a champion, now against AJ which is a big downgrade, so despite not having the experience in boxing like AJ does, I think he is still very dangerous.

Ngannou learned a lot from his lose to Fury (although fans didn't agree on a loss) so for sure we will see a different Ngannou here, a fighter that will be more aggressive and will know how to conserve his energy well.

And the refs? don't worry about that as this fight will end up in KO. As to the winner, not sure who will win between the two.

[TopTort777]

Just remember who is going to be in his corner again, the legend Mike Tyson.
With him by his side Ngannou is going to improve a lot, he is going to learn few more boxing tricks, and I think Joshua has much more to lose in this fight than he does.
I just hope refs wont ruin the fight again with some weird decisions just because he is coming with mma background.

Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

[stadus]

Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

He was with him during Ngannou's fight with Fury, and I think he is a big factor on that success although he wasn't the one coaching it. I'm not sure what his role is but most likely he is a trainor and gives Ngannou a fighting style that he used during his prime as a boxer, and since Tyson is still active in boxing although not as a fighter, we can assume that he continues to develop his knowledge and that's his value to Ngannou's camp.

As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

That was a controversial fight. Maybe the really lose but nobody expected the fight would be that close. And Fury is not AJ, Fury is way better, so maybe we will see an even chances here, or Ngannou could make his first win in boxing via KO.

[Inwestour]

Mike Tyson it is, he is very confident with his fighter and I know they'll do better this time. Just look at this, last time he fought a champion, now against AJ which is a big downgrade, so despite not having the experience in boxing like AJ does, I think he is still very dangerous.

Ngannou learned a lot from his lose to Fury (although fans didn't agree on a loss) so for sure we will see a different Ngannou here, a fighter that will be more aggressive and will know how to conserve his energy well.

And the refs? don't worry about that as this fight will end up in KO. As to the winner, not sure who will win between the two.

I'm almost sure that Ngannou will act more aggressively in the fight with AJ in order to knock him out. Perhaps Ngannou did not force the end of the fight with Fury because he was confident of his victory, or perhaps he was just tired.

Anyway, I expect to see a completely different Ngannou in this fight. But here the most important thing is not to forget that Joshua also has a very good punch, and in the desire to knock him out, he also need to remember about defense. The fact that Tyson helps Ngannou is good in any case, even if he does not have much experience as a coach, but he has had a lot of fights in the ring and he knows how to win, this is an important quality for every fighter, such support is worth a lot.

[TopTort777]

Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

He was with him during Ngannou's fight with Fury, and I think he is a big factor on that success although he wasn't the one coaching it. I'm not sure what his role is but most likely he is a trainor and gives Ngannou a fighting style that he used during his prime as a boxer, and since Tyson is still active in boxing although not as a fighter, we can assume that he continues to develop his knowledge and that's his value to Ngannou's camp.

Not every coach is a boxer, not every boxer is a coach. In a fight boxer shows his own skills and does what coach suggests him to do. Not saying that this is 50% boxer skill + 50% coach experience, ratio is different, but it isnt 100% in general. Tyson would have given only his experience to Ngannou, not his and his coach experience. If boxers were so specialists in everything, then there were no need for a coach at all. I still believe Tyson was more a media person in Ngannou corner, than a real help. Imho even without Tyson in Ngannou corner, Ngannou would have achieved the same result. In fact, during the fight, Mike Tyson was not even in Ngannou corner. He could have shouted only some advices from the crowd.

[coin-investor]

Just to give an update on the poll, many of us believe that Ngannou to win it should be knockout, and if the fight goes the distance Joshua could take the fight by decision, there's a big possibility that this scenario can happen, between the two Ngannou is the heavy hitter and the one that can take a punch, if Ngannou hit that chin it could be another Andy Ruiz scenario where Joshua loses his momentum and eventually lose by stoppage, and if the fight goes the distance there's a possibility that Joshua could win by the decision because he knows how to score points on crucial rounds, so Ngannou should take the early rounds and try to catch him and knock him out if the fight drags on Joshua can take the fight by decision.

Anthony Joshua by KO   - 2 (8.3%)
Anthony Joshua by decision   - 6 (25%)
Francis Ngannou by KO   - 14 (58.3%)
Francis Ngannou by decision   - 2 (8.3%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 24

[Dave1]

Just to give an update on the poll, many of us believe that Ngannou to win it should be knockout, and if the fight goes the distance Joshua could take the fight by decision, there's a big possibility that this scenario can happen, between the two Ngannou is the heavy hitter and the one that can take a punch, if Ngannou hit that chin it could be another Andy Ruiz scenario where Joshua loses his momentum and eventually lose by stoppage, and if the fight goes the distance there's a possibility that Joshua could win by the decision because he knows how to score points on crucial rounds, so Ngannou should take the early rounds and try to catch him and knock him out if the fight drags on Joshua can take the fight by decision.

Anthony Joshua by KO   - 2 (8.3%)
Anthony Joshua by decision   - 6 (25%)
Francis Ngannou by KO   - 14 (58.3%)
Francis Ngannou by decision   - 2 (8.3%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 24

Yes, that pretty much sums-up what the poll and what the comments are. Francis being a hard hitter, should take AJ early and try to score a knockout or knockdown. And AJ being a soft-chin, should practice on getting away from that power right of Ngannou and in return, he should used his boxing skills more. However, it could also be a battle of who has more stamina and gas tank as both are very big and carry a lot of muscle mass and it could be tiring to go for a 12 round fight.

But then, for bettors, seeing Francis Ngannou as a huge underdog, for sure they gonna love it as Francis shows that he can be a live dog here.

[TravelMug]

If we are talking about Ngannou here, he has only 1 fight as a pro-boxer, but I do agree that he might have been robbed against Fury. Maybe everyone is on the bag as they don't want to derail Usyk vs Fury fight as a lot is on the line. But in this fight, if Ngannou is no longer just a hype job, he could really push Joshua to the limit here. Joshua has been mentality broken in Ruiz and Usyk fight. And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the power of Ngannou, there's no doubt that he's going to kill everyone that he's punching if he does punch with all of his might. Have you seen the videos where Joe Rogan and Dana White vouched for his strength? That alone should be enough to make you believe that Ngannou will demolish Joshua in this fight, the derail part of that isn't the reason for the loss, it's the corrupt boxing federation that's creating this problem, the deserving don't win and the favorite gets the favors of the judges and Ngannou's no hype job, he can deliver what people are telling others about him.

Here's one of the times that Rogan talked about Ngannou's punching power

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https://youtube.com/shorts/WzYIICl-xqk?si=4cDRUZsnlLAhRhKn

Here's the one where Dana talks about the punching power of Ngannou

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https://youtube.com/shorts/1KiqYXMlQQQ?si=r-Y_7HQcfW472fOR

I'm not sure what you mean that I don't know about the power of Ngannou because I never criticized it. I never question it if you have to read my post. So just read what I said, No need to post that link about his power, because we have seen it against Fury. My question is about his stamina and gas tank as he is not used to fight this long specially the format is very different from what he used to. Derailing with the help of the judges is the same as corruption as they judges could be in the payroll though, just like the head of those governing bodies. So it trickle down to everyone, maybe the referee is also included on that. So if you believed that Francis can beat Joshua here then by all means beat huge amount of money in him. It might be your biggest win.

[pawel7777]

As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

I agree that judging the whole fight and fixating on one knockdown is not the right approach, as this doesn't mean a thing. But we can't ignore the fact that it was a split decision, meaning one of the 3 professional judges saw Ngannou as the winner. I don't share that view and think Fury was a better fighter overall, but you can't blame people for siding with Francis.
Whenever there's a split decision and a fight is close, there will be controversies. And that's a good thing, it opens the door for potential, exciting rematches.