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January 09, 2024, 06:08:53 AM
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The thing is, most casinos give people the option to self-exclude themselves, but they do not offer relatives of the gambling addict the option to exclude the family member with the gambling problem.

The other thing is, even after self-exclution... gamblers are bombarded with gambling advertisements, so the temptation is still there in their face. (Casinos should remove all marketing to those self-excluded people)

The gambling addict should also take resposibility for their actions and accept that they have a problem and that they need to seek proffesional help.

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January 09, 2024, 07:20:13 AM
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That's right, if they gamble irresponsibly then it will become a burden on their family, even if they borrow from their own relatives or family members most likely they will not pay it because they feel that their own family is unlikely to make an issue of it, but in reality everyone is sensitive to their finances, so even if they borrow money from their family they still have to pay and repay it because it is their own responsibility which is the act of themselves doing it.

I think that's right, those who are addicted to gambling are brainwashed so they will continue to gamble until they get a really big win, people who are addicted to gambling of course they will do anything that can make money with the aim of the money to use gambling, and the bad side is that they might be able to commit criminal acts that can harm others. and this is one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

The gambler doesn't feel this pain, only the family that does because it's not a simple task for family to handle all the troubles he may have caused them. So the family of the gambler needs to accept the challenge and endeavor to help the person out of addiction. We have seen families who neglect all the symptoms and think that the player may get out of his problem gambling soon, but it persists. A family with less experience on how gambling addiction operates in human brain don't really care about their ward who is addicted until he begin to act strange and accumulate debts which the family would end up clearing. Healing a struggling person should be a team work. This is the time the person needs his loved ones the most. Nobody is being brainwashed, it's more of a mental problem and not all gamblers are aware of the impacts of not having self control could cause to their life and that of the family.

It really has to be done, the family has to act by helping those who are addicted to gambling to stop their addiction, but in my opinion, even if the family helps them to stop gambling, even if they take actions that might lead to violence in order to make those who are addicted aware, it won't work. if they themselves are addicted to gambling, they have no awareness of their addiction and do not have the slightest intention to give up gambling. because in my opinion someone who is addicted to gambling will experience changes in attitude and behavior and tend to become someone who is more stubborn so they will not easily accept input and suggestions from other people.

The brainwashing that is meant is just a proverb, friends, I mean that their minds are filled with gambling and with winnings from gambling, which makes them addicted to gambling, problems that occur because of their wrong thinking, right? It's natural that they don't realize the impact of gambling because their wrong thinking makes them only think about gambling and not think about other things.

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That's right, if they gamble irresponsibly then it will become a burden on their family, even if they borrow from their own relatives or family members most likely they will not pay it because they feel that their own family is unlikely to make an issue of it, but in reality everyone is sensitive to their finances, so even if they borrow money from their family they still have to pay and repay it because it is their own responsibility which is the act of themselves doing it.

I think that's right, those who are addicted to gambling are brainwashed so they will continue to gamble until they get a really big win, people who are addicted to gambling of course they will do anything that can make money with the aim of the money to use gambling, and the bad side is that they might be able to commit criminal acts that can harm others. and this is one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.
Even though people blame him for being an irresponsible gambler, he won't pay attention to it so he will continue to play and gamble until he is satisfied. Borrowing from a brother doesn't seem like this will be easy because his brother knows the money is used for gambling, but he will borrowing from other people and the burden being borne by his family and siblings so he continues to gamble with the borrowed money. If it's like this I think it's appropriate for him to be treated because his addiction has been so detrimental that even his family has been affected.

Someone who is addicted will find it difficult to stop because all that is on his mind is the ambition to achieve satisfaction and achieve big profits or recover the losses he has experienced so far so he will not stop before getting back the money he has lost because addicts believe that their money will one day come back again, even though it is very difficult to get.

In my opinion, that could happen, because his family already knows that he borrowed the money to gamble, so it's possible they won't give it to him,  and if that's the case  of course people who are addicted to gambling won't lose their minds,  so they You can borrow from other people or from financial companies that can provide loans,  and of course they won't say they're borrowing money to gamble because that's why most people probably won't give loans therefore they will take out loans for other reasons. and of course this can have an impact on their families because because they may not be able to pay off their debts, the person concerned by lending them money could approach their family to ask for responsibility for the actions of their family members who are addicted to gambling.

what makes it interesting to me is that people who are addicted have ambition, where they have such big desires  but they are in the wrong place.  by gambling as a goal to recover losses which makes them eager to get a win that who knows when it will happen thus making them lose more money.

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January 09, 2024, 07:29:03 AM
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and therefore gamble responsibly so that your gambling will not harm those closest to you. because after all, when you live with your siblings or parents, other people will judge your behavior and will associate this with the people closest to you. if you behave well, maybe other people will judge that your family are good people. but when you don't behave well, especially being an aggressive and irresponsible gambling addict, other people will not only judge you badly but also your siblings and parents who don't give advice or take action to prevent you from becoming an addict and that will lead to shame on them. and therefore gamble responsibly so that your actions will not harm those closest to you.

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January 09, 2024, 07:36:18 AM
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I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.
I have seen situations like this and several times and it wasn't an easy thing. My cousin was involved in something like this and he was selling his personal belongings to gamble and when he sold everything he had he was playing gamble with borrowed funds and his family members were always called to come and pay for his debt. It was so embarrassing. Having a gambling addict in a family is not an easy thing to deal with.

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January 09, 2024, 09:09:22 AM
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Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

When an individual is addicted to gambling, they'll not know they're addicted. They'll think they're like every other individual and just gambling responsibly but they're not and are making the life of others around them miserable. Gambling addicts can waste all their money gambling, borrow from their family members or friends to gamble and put them in debits too without knowing they're not doing what is right. I don't advice anyone to hang around addictive gamblers as it can influence you.

All individuals have to get it that anything they do don't just affect their lifes but it affects the life of others around them. This includes their family, love ones and friends. Sometimes it affect a bigger cycle of individuals as there are children watching how we behave and learn foeim us. We should be responsive at all times and be a good example to the next generation that'll come after us as there's no benefits in being addicted to gambling.

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January 09, 2024, 09:21:07 AM
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Total lack of self awareness, some people only know how to learn when it's already too late, but while people are trying to advice them they will not listen, no matter how stupid an advice may sound, you may never know, try to be calm and listen first, not all advice are good, but it's a great thing to hear them out first, then pick the ones that will be useful for you and dump the rest.

You could be doing something wrong, and your present state of mind will accept it like it's normal, but when you give room to advice your mind can grab something helpful from the advice, this is a big problem with some gamblers, they are so stubborn that they will never listen to people, they will feel like they are better at making decisions.

The cautious of your surroundings, make sure that what you are doing isn't having a bad impact on others around you, this is why I told someone that it's better to be a single person as a gambler than having a family, because it's no more you alone, your decisions will affect them as well, unless you don't care, which is a habit of greedy people who thinks only for themselves.

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January 09, 2024, 10:09:21 AM
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I have seen situations like this and several times and it wasn't an easy thing. My cousin was involved in something like this and he was selling his personal belongings to gamble and when he sold everything he had he was playing gamble with borrowed funds and his family members were always called to come and pay for his debt. It was so embarrassing. Having a gambling addict in a family is not an easy thing to deal with.
If someone has sold their personal belongings to gamble, they may have become addicted to gambling without anyone realizing it. He cannot stop himself from gambling and already considers gambling to be more important than other things, even though he must have had other activities before he knew about gambling. This is what every gambler must be aware of so that they can avoid gambling addiction and their family should be able to detect their gambling addiction from the start after they act out of habit. His family may suspect that he has been gambling excessively and if his family does not know about his gambling activities, the impact could be even worse. Hopefully, your cousin will realize that he has made a fatal mistake and has the desire to stop his gambling activities.

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January 09, 2024, 03:15:12 PM
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and therefore gamble responsibly so that your gambling will not harm those closest to you. because after all, when you live with your siblings or parents, other people will judge your behavior and will associate this with the people closest to you. if you behave well, maybe other people will judge that your family are good people. but when you don't behave well, especially being an aggressive and irresponsible gambling addict, other people will not only judge you badly but also your siblings and parents who don't give advice or take action to prevent you from becoming an addict and that will lead to shame on them. and therefore gamble responsibly so that your actions will not harm those closest to you.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you'll want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're getting yourself into. Starting from not having responsibility, the problem will spread to everything, especially one of our closest members, for example, it is not uncommon to find gamblers who like to borrow money from one of their relatives who eventually cause problems because of the inability to pay debts due to excessive gambling and even though they have money but of course the first thing they think about is to fund their gambling and not to pay debts.

Not only that, the scenario can also be like what you said where the point of view of the surrounding community will be bad as a result of the behavior of an addicted gambler who usually ranks like a madman and agreif, acting out of control and even very likely to commit crimes such as stealing etc., which of course can embarrass their extended family in the eyes of the surrounding people. I think there should be something that one of his siblings should do to at least advise him not to overdo the gambling, although the possibility is small but it doesn't matter as long as it is consistent I think it can make them change a little.

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January 09, 2024, 06:19:37 PM
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Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

What you should do is give gaming advice, it's very easy to say, "take note... for trite advice... about being a `good citizen`"

You have to be an example of what can be done with facts, show that you can quit the game, that you can bet and not die trying, run a successful gaming blog, or how you came out to downsize and abandoned the game and are happy .

No one recovers from bad habits just by: "tapping them on the shoulder", or by coming and writing: Take note.   Smiley

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If your gambling habits are negatively effecting your relatives you really do need to seek help.  I couldn't imagine having a habit so bad that you have to borrow money from family members knowing that you will never repay them, just so you can continue your habit.  I understand that people can have different beliefs and can discriminate against you for how you live your life regardless of if you believe it is bad or not.  However, if you're having to borrow money to keep your habit going and can no longer even provide for yourself, it's a major problem.

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January 09, 2024, 08:10:23 PM
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If your gambling habits are negatively effecting your relatives you really do need to seek help.  I couldn't imagine having a habit so bad that you have to borrow money from family members knowing that you will never repay them, just so you can continue your habit.  I understand that people can have different beliefs and can discriminate against you for how you live your life regardless of if you believe it is bad or not.  However, if you're having to borrow money to keep your habit going and can no longer even provide for yourself, it's a major problem.
It is good when we adjust our gambling and do not make it affect us especially our relatives. Gambling is supposed to be fun and calculative. This is what many of the big players do before they go in for any bet. Once we are able to calculate and do the normal things that are necessary for us to win a bet, we can be rest assured that we arf going to be seeing more of profits than loses or the profits will be more that the overall loses. Relatives are important people in our life and we should not allow our gambling career to affect our family rapport or relationship.

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I have seen situations like this and several times and it wasn't an easy thing. My cousin was involved in something like this and he was selling his personal belongings to gamble and when he sold everything he had he was playing gamble with borrowed funds and his family members were always called to come and pay for his debt. It was so embarrassing. Having a gambling addict in a family is not an easy thing to deal with.
There are similar situations as this common amongst most gamblers especially those who are using gambling as a sole source of income, they are so dependent on gambling that they gamble almost every day with high hopes of recovery even when its clear at some point that they are not likely to win even with their multiple trials.

Such persons as your cousin needs professional help probably from a psychologist, therapist or a psychiatrist, any of these people could be of help to getting him out of such addiction els he may continue and things could get really mess around the family resulting from his gambling habit. Going to pay for his dept always will only get him to continuing because he knows that he's got a family that will come rescue him from the mess so instead of paying his depts always that money could be used to seek help for him and an end will be put to such menace

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January 09, 2024, 08:26:56 PM
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and therefore gamble responsibly so that your gambling will not harm those closest to you. because after all, when you live with your siblings or parents, other people will judge your behavior and will associate this with the people closest to you. if you behave well, maybe other people will judge that your family are good people. but when you don't behave well, especially being an aggressive and irresponsible gambling addict, other people will not only judge you badly but also your siblings and parents who don't give advice or take action to prevent you from becoming an addict and that will lead to shame on them. and therefore gamble responsibly so that your actions will not harm those closest to you.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you'll want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're getting yourself into. Starting from not having responsibility, the problem will spread to everything, especially one of our closest members, for example, it is not uncommon to find gamblers who like to borrow money from one of their relatives who eventually cause problems because of the inability to pay debts due to excessive gambling and even though they have money but of course the first thing they think about is to fund their gambling and not to pay debts.

Not only that, the scenario can also be like what you said where the point of view of the surrounding community will be bad as a result of the behavior of an addicted gambler who usually ranks like a madman and agreif, acting out of control and even very likely to commit crimes such as stealing etc., which of course can embarrass their extended family in the eyes of the surrounding people. I think there should be something that one of his siblings should do to at least advise him not to overdo the gambling, although the possibility is small but it doesn't matter as long as it is consistent I think it can make them change a little.

I've noticed that it's rare not to have in a family a person who acts in a strange manner. It could be as a result of childhood upbringing. Which may have affected the person psychologically. Home training changes people differently. Grown ups hardly find it difficult to change, once the person gets addicted it takes lots of effort to cure their problem gambling. Even after the problem has been solved the gambler would find himself undergoing similar gambling symptoms for a while until he's completely in control of his actions. Advising them helps, but not everyone loves to take one, especially when they didn't ask for it. As families we only need to have to closely observe the person and endeavor he's not gambling all the time. Explaining to them that gambling once a day is achievable can help the gambler would decide to try it out some day. Then he'd follow the routine of gambling once a day for a long time till it's now a part of him.

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When a person can't stop themselves from gambling, it becomes an addiction that takes over their life.  They lose all self-control and can't walk away, even when the consequences are piling up.  This dangerous spiral impacts not just the gambler, but their whole family and  it's why they say this addiction has ruined so many lives - once it sinks its hooks in the damage spreads.   

Ive seen good folks reduced to desperation after emptying their accounts in casinos or at online poker tables night after night.  They keep chasing that win, thinking this time will pay off all their debts from the last losses and then some.  Families torn apart, jobs lost, hopes dashed - it's a sad story that plays out again and again. 

So if you ever feel that itch to risk it all for a big payout walk away.  Enjoy a little entertainment now and then, but don't get pulled into the vortex.  Your people need you, probably more than you know.  Don't let them down.

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January 09, 2024, 09:05:16 PM
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I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

Unfortunately this scenario can happen in many different scenarios and comes down to an individual becoming addicted to something. I've seen very similar things happen when it comes to drugs, even ones that have been legalized for a long time like alcohol. The reality is that we all choose our own destiny, many of these people could reverse course at any point in their life, but they need to hit rock bottom and accept that is where they are. Then there are those people who live in denial, even tricking themselves into thinking that it is a happy way to live, these are the most dangerous and unsalvageable ones - because they have adjusted to misery for so long they start to actually enjoy it.

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January 09, 2024, 09:20:15 PM
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I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
it saddens me when people fail to understand this simple trickery at the expense of their funds, happiness, life and emotions - This is fucking business.. even if you were able to win today, it doesn't mean the casino lost anything.. there aren't any "losing game" for them...(especially virtual sites) why? It's highly monitored and professionally programed..
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At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
I've never heard of such restrictions - I don't even know the possibilities there... But if this storyline is actually non-fictional, then the said family must be leaving in affluence.

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I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.
  I can tell you from personal experience that it affects every aspect of living. Emotionally, life is good when they are winning, but if they are losing you have to deal with thier anger, frustration and irrational thinking. It’s like walking on eggshells from week to week wondering if today is a good day or a bad day. Financially, everything declines. Even if a gambler has great days, the reality is that they come very few and far between. For every winning day there are many days of losing everything. Just like the emotional rollercoaster, everything else happened in the same kind of waves. It’s common to go from having alot of food in the house to having nothing, from having plenty of money to pay the bills to scrambling to make due dates, from having a comfortable easy life to being stressed out and anxious as the money comes and goes.
   The reality of an addicted gambler is that it’s a never ending loop and it isn’t until they hit rock bottom and just have no more money to gamble when they see the damage around them. For some this could include valuables in pawn shops, payday loans at several locations, etc.. They are always looking for that next big win to reclaim everything that was lost. Sometimes it happens. But, most of the time, it doesn’t.
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January 10, 2024, 08:25:05 AM
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and therefore gamble responsibly so that your gambling will not harm those closest to you. because after all, when you live with your siblings or parents, other people will judge your behavior and will associate this with the people closest to you. if you behave well, maybe other people will judge that your family are good people. but when you don't behave well, especially being an aggressive and irresponsible gambling addict, other people will not only judge you badly but also your siblings and parents who don't give advice or take action to prevent you from becoming an addict and that will lead to shame on them. and therefore gamble responsibly so that your actions will not harm those closest to you.
True, but easier said than done. When addicted, you don't think about anything else but gambling and how to win the lost amount back. I am saying these things from my experience because I have been through times like these. Everything revolves around gambling, if you have a good session you are happy and talking to people and when you lose, you are isolated.

Gambling is just like any other disease that needs to be treated and will not go away by itself. It's a problem and there is no shame in reaching out to your close ones or even a professional for help.

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January 10, 2024, 09:02:52 AM
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If your gambling habits are negatively effecting your relatives you really do need to seek help.  I couldn't imagine having a habit so bad that you have to borrow money from family members knowing that you will never repay them, just so you can continue your habit.  I understand that people can have different beliefs and can discriminate against you for how you live your life regardless of if you believe it is bad or not.  However, if you're having to borrow money to keep your habit going and can no longer even provide for yourself, it's a major problem.
It's not only limited to gambling addiction because even on drugs, alcohol etc. this kind of problem is already existing. The common here in our place is alcohol addiction, everyday drunk that cause trouble to the family since the person is becoming violent and aggressive everytime he is in such condition. It's a shame for the family, they even had to let the person arrested for being out of control. I think this kind of problem won't be easily solve without the intervention of health professionals. They need to undergo rehabilitation in order to control their behaviour and to overcome what they have been going through.

It's really true that overuse of anything is not really good. Thus, we have to keep in our minds that if we gamble, make sure that you can discipline yourself not to go beyond your limit.

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January 10, 2024, 09:11:15 AM
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Alot of things can affects one family, like drug addictions, crime activities and even positive things like success, there are people that left their families just because they became successful, so let's not push everything on gambling.
I think the problem here is when you get addicted to gambling, infact getting addicted to anything is super wrong, if you gamble responsibly you should not have any problems.
A person who gambles responsibly is unlikely to ever become addicted. A person who does not gamble responsibly will have a 100% chance of becoming addicted. Gambling is a deadly game that is not only harmful to the gambling addict but also to the family and relatives. Here I am not considering gambling as bad but I am considering gambling addiction as worst.

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