The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum.

[philipma1957]

I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining

Could you share those coins, please?

I see some good Proof of Work coins worth mining and worth to use for fund transfers too.
Dogecoin
Litecoin
Monero
Zcash
Ethereum Classic

Those PoW coins are best in network security but they of course can not compare with Bitcoin network.
https://howmanyconfs.com/

add btc and grin

and the hotspot network has possibility to be okay.

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[Poker Player]

So what are you really telling? Are they going to become as big as btt? They may get bigger as btt gets bigger but will they become bigger than btt just because they have the mixer campaigns?

Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.

I see some other user said it is easier to rank up there, if that’s the case, it is a good opportunity to make some extra income for those who have the extra time and dedication to raise an acc there.

I guess everyone has a different condition which makes them see this differently. For a person like me who has limited free time, it doesn’t make any sense to raise an acc there especially when that forum’s future is uncertain.

For somebody who doesn’t have a full time job, it is a nobrainer decision. Go and milk that forum.

I agree.

[mindrust]

So what are you really telling? Are they going to become as big as btt? They may get bigger as btt gets bigger but will they become bigger than btt just because they have the mixer campaigns?

Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here as they do it on onlyfans. Here is another deal btt failed to take advantage of. All those pretty girls do their thing on onlyfans instead of btt… and showing nudes for money is legal in the US as far as I know. Why don’t theymos create a board for the nsfw content? Lots of rich bitcoiners would pay for this kind of content.

theymos saw the risk with the mixers isn’t worth taking.

I wonder where the altcointalk servers are located. Does anyone have an idea about the admin’s home country there? Is it Russia by any chance?

[LoyceV]

Shitcointalks.com? I don’t have an account there and probably never will.

So you're saying I can get a high-ranking shitcointalk account and sell it?

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Here is another deal btt failed to take advantage of. All those pretty girls do their thing on onlyfans instead of btt…

That is a pity indeed

[mindrust]

Shitcointalks.com? I don’t have an account there and probably never will.

So you're saying I can get a high-ranking shitcointalk account and sell it?

I don't know what they do about that. I actually have taken a look around and I see that they don't let you have multiple accounts there unlike here. They ban it right away. So they are probably against account selling.

I also noticed there are many grammar errors made by either the admin or the mods. There is a picture made with paint.exe tells you about the forum rules... Everything in that forum reeks of unprofessionalism and it indeed looks like yobit's forum version 2.0.

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Are you telling me that you wouldn't pay a great deal to see foxpup's panties?  

“If you build the platform, pretty girls will come.”

[JollyGood]

There is no such thing as loyalty when it comes to online space (and if there is, the definition of the word 'loyalty' changes between perceptions). Though many of us have an affinity and soft spot for the forum, we will go where the money is. If signature campaigns are banned in totality, the forum will remain open but the traffic flow will become almost non-existent. As a result, alternative forums will thrive to fill the void.

After the mixers ban, it is difficult to see what else could be banned next because pretty much everything else is allowed. Scams are not moderated so scammers continue to post. AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags. Banned account operators return to make new accounts and do not get banned again when reported. Account farmers only receive neutral tags when all their accounts are linked together. I guess, everything else is (and will be) allowed for the foreseeable future but the more restrictions that are placed in this forum, the more other forums will grow.

Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.

[LoyceV]

AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags.

Neutral tags aren't the problem, the problem is they should get banned.

[Agbe]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Does any organic traffic actually land at that site? Not really.

Here's a quick comparison of the site's traffic metrics according to Similarweb:

Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide

Bitcointalk Monthly Visits: 1.5 million
Altcoinstalks Monthly Visits: 45.4 thousand

Bitcointalk Traffic Sources: 42.54% Search
Altcoinstalks Traffic Sources: 10.45% Search


I assume the campaigns there are paying peanuts compared to here. Also, its got to be a complete spamfest, which is why its not attracting organic traffic. If people want to make a few extra bucks by posting there, good for them. I don't think it will detract from Bitcointalk's status.

What the Op is saying is "futuristic". And he is saying how the evolution will happen if people are teleporting to that side daily. But you only made mentioned or analyzed the past and present data or population of the two sides.  The op said the ban of mixers is making wave for the shitcoinstalks or altcoinstalks forum to secure more traffic compared to the time when mixers have not gone to the other forum or banned here. In the world of capitalism, population is one the great element needed to promote any business or project before quality. Bitcointalk is more popular because the great population and if great number of users in this forum go to that side, it will make that side more popular as well. Then let us come to the quality. Yes those people you mentioned are prestigious members here but how many of them participate and use the signature campaigns and their services. Other users are also needed for the growth of the community. In a community, the poor and the rich live together for the expansion and the growth and the development of the the community. Everyone in the community has their role to play, and failure of one part affect the other side. In any organic system, there are three elements for the progressive of it. The first one is growth: And bitcointalk.org has passed the stage of growth and every orgasm must passthrough this stage so altcoinstalks is on that stage now and that is why the Op said, the evolution is high in the future there. Then secondly, the development stage: This is last stage of all organisms and bitcointalk is in this stage. This is the stage where quality is needed, more features are needed in this stage to beautify the organism or the project. And altcoinstalks has not come to this stage but still on the growth stage so the Op has foresaw what will happen in the future and not the present. And what is happening in the present tells what will happen in the future.

Then concerning the peanut you said. Yes the other forum has peanut as the reward to the participants but it was a manager from here initiated that payment there and others follow suit and presently he has brought it to this forum as well. Didn't you think others might follow suit? Since the competition is not like before again. Yes the spamfest is high there but the visibility and the participation of users in the services of the campaign sites is one of the major thing in the advertisement. Qualitative is highly needed in all advertisement but according to the Holy Bible, let all grow together.

[JollyGood]

Agreed, they should be banned. In an attempt to try to force the hand of moderators I placed a negative tag on a Stake signature spammer that either uses AI or employs others with less English grammatical understanding to write posts for him. The spammer started writing in perfect English complaining at every possible opportunity that he should not have received a negative tag (and was no longer wearing the Stake signature therefore it is safe to say he was kicked out as a result of my negative tag).

I eventually withdrew the negative tag as advised and replaced it with a neutral. The Stake signature campaign spammer immediately returned to the gambling board to spam there after he was wearing the Stake signature again (albeit he was celebrating that 3 members added me to their distrust list because I gave him a negative tag). What this incident shows is that using AI does not get members a ban. Using others to post on your account to meet signature quota does not get a ban. Something does need to change at some point.

If the Stake campaign manager was operating with a due-diligence policy then the discussion would never have happened. These spammers cannot get on to other campaigns therefore the Stake campaign manager has contributed to the problem by giving them a platform and paying them to spam with farmed accounts. Moderators do not ban signature spammers and that is also part of the problem.

Would other forums (that see themselves to some degree as competition against this forum) allow that to happen on their platforms as their traffic flow increases? I have not studied any of them long enough to know but if they view what is happening here they should at least try to emulate the good parts and dispose of the worst parts.

AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags.

Neutral tags aren't the problem, the problem is they should get banned.

[Pmalek]

Well if you know me you know most of the time I never used a signature. Been here 11 going on 12 years.  Maybe did 3 or 4 years of signatures and 7 or 8 without.

I was prepaid for 6 months and had done 1 month with the unnamed mixer. They had to end and asked for 4 months refund. I thought if they are on altcoinstalk I would contact them and do an ad specifically for them.

If I were younger and still planned to mine I would not need the signature money.

Ok, I understand now what you are talking about. In that case, get in contact with their representatives and see what kind of deal you can get for posting on Altcoinstalk, but don't expect such an attractive package this time. Remember to reserve and duplicate your profile from Bitcointalk to Altcointalk.

I am older my 67th birthday is in 4 days and mining only gets harder to do with age.

Oh damn. Remind me to stand up the next time I address you. 

[Poker Player]

Hey @bitmover. If you are going to criticize me, I think you should say it to my face, in this forum. And apart from that I would be better that you criticized me for things that I have said, not for things that I have not said and nutildah has said.

In other words, you said:

Welcome philipma1957!!

Actually poker player was criticizing us, saying it was a spam fest. Lol

Buy I like it here. Let's make this place better

Source: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316053.msg1479153#msg1479153

Cite me where I have said this. It seems to me that you are confusing me with nutildah. I would expect a rectification from you:

Also, its got to be a complete spamfest,

@bitmover: I'm watching you lol.

[OgNasty]

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Your wife found a husband.  Anything is possible.

[philipma1957]

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Your wife found a husband.  Anything is possible.

that's funny.

So I now get paid peanuts for promoting that same mixer I used to promote.

It will take me years on the lessor site to get back the coin I refunded to them when they were ended here.

Sidebar question which belongs in the banned mixer thread.

I have these words under my avatar

"Your Privacy Matters"

Rather than say I cut the deal and get accused of a deal for that would changing it to

" Privacy Matters " cover me from any accusations .

 I am willing to change it to anything that is approved

Maybe  'The right to privacy matters'. it is now

'The right to privacy matters'.

I think it is not a quote of any known person so I made it that.

[Synchronice]

Look I will post 10 - 20 posts a day there but mostly so far I do not get much discussion.  I actually welcome its growth as I do not like the BTC good all the coins shit coins mantra that many practice here. (I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining)

Many people say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit because, to my mind, majority of them want to post for the sake of post counts and spam threads. It's like a copied text everywhere. They say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit without even discussing about them. For example, why is Monero shit compared to Bitcoin? Can anyone with solid arguments tell me that Monero is a shitcoin? They can't, so, don't take that mantra seriously. There are altcoins that have their pros and cons, bitcoin has its pros and cons too. For some, Bitcoin might be the best coin and for others, some altcoins might be the best choice but this doesn't mean that every other alternative currency is a shit.

Alexa rank is 371,541

Alexa is dead, those are false numbers. To be honest, I wouldn't rely on statistics given by those websites.

[philipma1957]

Look I will post 10 - 20 posts a day there but mostly so far I do not get much discussion.  I actually welcome its growth as I do not like the BTC good all the coins shit coins mantra that many practice here. (I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining)

Many people say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit because, to my mind, majority of them want to post for the sake of post counts and spam threads. It's like a copied text everywhere. They say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit without even discussing about them. For example, why is Monero shit compared to Bitcoin? Can anyone with solid arguments tell me that Monero is a shitcoin? They can't, so, don't take that mantra seriously. There are altcoins that have their pros and cons, bitcoin has its pros and cons too. For some, Bitcoin might be the best coin and for others, some altcoins might be the best choice but this doesn't mean that every other alternative currency is a shit.

Alexa rank is 371,541

Alexa is dead, those are false numbers. To be honest, I wouldn't rely on statistics given by those websites.

well you could be correct I have zero idea how to know website traffic reported is accurate.

How about if I sign in and out of this website 10 times an hour daily does it count at 240 visits or 1 ?

[bitmover]

Hey @bitmover. If you are going to criticize me, I think you should say it to my face, in this forum. And apart from that I would be better that you criticized me for things that I have said, not for things that I have not said and nutildah has said.
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Cite me where I have said this. It seems to me that you are confusing me with nutildah. I would expect a rectification from you:

I didnt criticize you. I quoted you criticizing me. That is enterily different.

I am not confusing you with nutildah. You explicitly mentioned me, and he didn't

A complete spamfest by examplens, tranthidung, dkbit98, hugeblack, bitmover, Stompix, Rikafip, Igebotz and BlackHatCoiner? Yeah sure. And every day new users are teleported.

[Poker Player]

I didnt criticize you. I quoted you criticizing me. That is enterily different.

I am not confusing you with nutildah. You explicitly mentioned me, and he didn't

A complete spamfest by examplens, tranthidung, dkbit98, hugeblack, bitmover, Stompix, Rikafip, Igebotz and BlackHatCoiner? Yeah sure. And every day new users are teleported.

Oh, so what I see is that you didn't understand, at all, what I said.

You know what sarcasm is, buddy?

You understood it completely the opposite.

[JollyGood]

So I now get paid peanuts for promoting that same mixer I used to promote.

It will take me years on the lessor site to get back the coin I refunded to them when they were ended here.

It might be unfortunate but that is how things work sometimes. There was a clear stretch going back many years which allowed mixers to be promoted here freely and many members enjoyed the benefits of participating in various signature campaigns. As part of the evolution of this forum a decision was taken by the administrator to exclude/ban mixers therefore we have to move.

I see nothing positive nor constructive when reading about how the ban has affected people. It was not nice when you made a partial refund to that mixer for your bespoke deal and also to read you stating you receive peanuts to promote the same mixer on a different forum therefore I sympathise with you but it will be better if the comparisons stop and we all move forward.

If in the end as a result of the ban other forums start building momentum, traffic and popularity then that simply is another option for those that want to register and effectively join signature campaigns. I hope you get over the money you repaid and simply enjoy looking at what possibilities await after the mixer ban dust settles.

Alexa rank is 371,541

Alexa is dead, those are false numbers. To be honest, I wouldn't rely on statistics given by those websites.

Which source for visitor numbers would you recommend or suggest using as a comparator for what could be deemed more accurate statistics?

[examplens]

I didnt criticize you. I quoted you criticizing me. That is enterily different.

I am not confusing you with nutildah. You explicitly mentioned me, and he didn't

A complete spamfest by examplens, tranthidung, dkbit98, hugeblack, bitmover, Stompix, Rikafip, Igebotz and BlackHatCoiner? Yeah sure. And every day new users are teleported.

I got a notification for this.
@bitmover, I think you misunderstood Poker Player. As a counterargument to the @nutildah statement, about the opening of the spamfest, he mentioned these names with the question of whether this is expected of them as well. I'd say it even sounded respectable on his part.

Alexa rank is 371,541

Alexa is dead, those are false numbers. To be honest, I wouldn't rely on statistics given by those websites.

Which source for visitor numbers would you recommend or suggest using as a comparator for what could be deemed more accurate statistics?

Similarweb is the closest thing to what Alexa used to do.

[NotATether]

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Your wife found a husband.  Anything is possible.

That requires you put in the effort first