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January 14, 2024, 08:55:26 AM
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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.

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January 14, 2024, 09:14:43 AM
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There's really no way to know for sure unless you're already in one. But generally and historically, there are decent signs when a bull market is about to peak: when people around you suddenly become crypto "investors" and are making so much money in unrealized gains. Will it be the same in the future? No one knows.

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January 14, 2024, 09:18:05 AM
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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.
You only can know it certainly when you are already in a bear market for some months. You only can know the bottom when the market already moves up a lot from the bottom.

If you want to guess, look at Trading volume. In bear market, trading volume will drop and becomes smaller with time but a challenging task for you to find bottom is you can not know when trading volume hits bottom and price is at bottom.

Bottom will be confirmed by a very big trading volume bar that is an indicator of massive buy and price will rally from the bottom with that big trading volume bar.

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January 14, 2024, 09:49:14 AM
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My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.
Some traders will tell you that if you use indicators and drawing lines that you can know it. But if you use both, you may see yourself still losing as the market will not be in your direction. Trading will make people not patient and most traders are losing.

The only time I know the market will go up is when it has falling significantly. The more it falls the more it is likely that the price will start to rise. I am taking about bitcoin and not altcoins.

You can see recently that bitcoin fall from $46200 to $43200. Later it moved within that price to $43900 for some minutes or hours before it fall again to $41500. As it fall within like 3 to 4 hours two time like this, you should know that if you go in at $42000 or a pice lower, that you will make money as the price will rise more as at that time.

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January 14, 2024, 10:38:38 AM
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I don't know of any such way. In fact, there is nothing that predicts bear market.  But if you are doing regular trading then you can predict something like the volume is going down. But it can't be certain.  But if you are very expert in trading you can guess.  In that case you have to be a regular trader.


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January 14, 2024, 11:30:18 AM
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We cannot predict about bear and bull season but if we have information about some events like halving and news about bitcoin ETF approval then we can know that market will now goes higher but bear market cannot be predicted. Although when some bad news comes into the site then there is a chance that market will goes down because news changes the complete market situations.

We should be ready for both bear and bull market because both are unpredictable because we all were in thoughts that after the approval of bitcoin ETF there will be increase in price and market will turn green but the condition are now completely different and bitcoin and other altcoins are in red line.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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January 14, 2024, 12:07:50 PM
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I don't know of any such way. In fact, there is nothing that predicts bear market.  But if you are doing regular trading then you can predict something like the volume is going down. But it can't be certain.  But if you are very expert in trading you can guess.  In that case you have to be a regular trader.

Exactly when a trader has the technical knowledge of probably the candle stick which is a representation of the price movement they can be able to predict the next movement of the market price this kind of predictions are mainly base on the pass history of that coin. But this is just a technical analysis and technical analysis can also be affected by fundamentals too like when you hear of news surrounding that coin you can use it to guess if the market will actually go bearish most especially if the news is a negative one. But the most common thing that suggests a bear period is arriving is after a long period of bull run and you and then you start seeing the shift of many investors taking profits then certainly bearish period is at the corner.

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January 14, 2024, 12:11:08 PM
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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.
You cannot know, what you can do is based on what it has happened on the past you could make predictions about when the bear market can begin, but that is all what it is, and as we know predictions can be wrong, so by trying to anticipate a bear market you may sell too soon and miss a great deal of the bull market, or you may sell too late as what you thought was just a correction was the bear market you were expecting all along.
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January 14, 2024, 12:19:10 PM
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Simple, learn, learn, and learn. You will not just invest or open a trade in bitcoin without analysis, technical analysis, or any indicator's applied. You should know how to trade first before you start trading. Invest in knowledge, sharpen your skills, and build experience first because how can you expect to earn in trading if you don't understand the market fully? Even experienced traders experience losing in trading; it's a better solution to become well known first than to rush to earn. Remember, the bitcoin market or any crypto market is very volatile and unpredictable, so it's common that the movement of markers will change every time and sometimes will not go your way. It's up to you how knowledgeable you are and how you can cope with the losses and learn from them. Anyways this mistakes is always common to new traders there's nothing to expect, just remember "knowledge is the key".

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My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.

We are not bearish at all and people seem to forget that. If you look at a very small timeframe then maybe it looks bearish, but the reason for that is just that one day people buy more and one day people sell more. You can not know if somebody will sell his bitcoins. People will not sell them because of news, technical analysis or something. They will simply sell them because they want to buy a new car or a house.
There is no way to predict when this is happening Wink
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January 14, 2024, 12:32:38 PM
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I just love it...simply loving it!

I go to a topic about how trading is gambling everyone there goes how trading is about knowledge about skill on how to read the markets and all that crap, I go to a topic where somebody asks if we're going to turn positive or negative next period suddenly nothing can predict it!
All those guys that were praising TA and other charts like the second Bible, where ar you now?

Simple, learn, learn, and learn. You will not just invest or open a trade in bitcoin without analysis, technical analysis, or any indicator's applied. You should know how to trade first before you start trading. Invest in knowledge, sharpen your skills, and build experience first
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any crypto market is very volatile and unpredictable,

If something is unpredictable then what help would the knowledge bring?

Seriously guys, stop with all this crap about analyses and charts and knowledge and stuff, all the strategies in the world and not a single one could have pointed out at oil going negative! yet it did, nobody predicted the price dump that happen when Luna crashed, nobody went public and said well after the ETF we're going to have a 15% drop and yet some still believe some colored lines on a past that will most likely never repeats itself will help you better than looking in a crystal ball with the characters from frozen in it!

Exactly when a trader has the technical knowledge of probably the candle stick which is a representation of the price movement they can be able to predict the next movement of the market price this kind of predictions are mainly base on the pass history of that coin. But this is just a technical analysis and technical analysis can also be affected by fundamentals too like when you hear of news surrounding that coin you can use it to guess if the market will actually go bearish most especially if the news is a negative one.

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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.

To understand it, you need to know what a bear market is:

A bear market is when a market experiences prolonged price declines. It typically describes a condition in which securities prices fall 20% or more from recent highs amid widespread pessimism and negative investor sentiment.

But then, you will ask:

"How can we predict the bear market before we go into the bear market? (before going down 20%)"

The answer is:

"Technical Analysis"


https://www.amazon.com/Trading-Technical-Analysis-Masterclass-financial/dp/1795471859

This book looks like a great start. It has many good reviews.

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January 14, 2024, 01:19:53 PM
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The best way to look at the market is with technical analysis. Then followed by some news sentiment. If the news is positive but the movement is not massive and tends to be steady then be prepared that there will be some FUD news followed by a price drop. However, this is not always correct.
The most important thing is to learn about technical techniques and types of candles/charts, this can certainly help in analyzing trends or trend changes, resistance and support levels are also very important to master.

I think some of the members' posts above have explained this in detail.

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January 14, 2024, 03:22:35 PM
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The answer is:

"Technical Analysis"



If a bitcoin miner wants to invest in the next generation of ASICs and therefore sells 20 Million USD worth of bitcoin, we will probably have at least one bear day even in current volume. How would you predict that with Technical Analysis?
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January 14, 2024, 03:44:24 PM
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My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.

We can't!

I get why some people think crypto's too unpredictable for investing.  The market's crazy volatile, so yeah, you can totally end up disappointed.  But that dont automatically mean there's no money to make.  Hell, some people bank hard just playing the dips and peaks! 

Can't say timing it perfect's guaranteed or nothing.  But if you got the guts to risk some losses profits can get big too.  Just gotta go in knowing you win some, lose some in this game.  The markets always shifting.

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January 14, 2024, 04:16:19 PM
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A bear market is when a market experiences prolonged price declines. It typically describes a condition in which securities prices fall 20% or more from recent highs amid widespread pessimism and negative investor sentiment.

If a bitcoin miner wants to invest in the next generation of ASICs and therefore sells 20 Million USD worth of bitcoin, we will probably have at least one bear day even in current volume.

Do you think if somebody sells 20 million USD worth of btc on the markets, the prices will dive 20%, globally? (because that's how we define bear markets.) I don't think so.

How would you predict that with Technical Analysis?

I don't know. I am not a technical analysis expert. You should ask the pros at trading view. They have all kinds of explanations there supporting their arguments with charts, lines and shit.

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January 14, 2024, 04:37:00 PM
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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.
Well, it is a misconception to say the market is always unpredictable, maybe it is the wrong use of word as the market is highly predictable, except that it is uncertain at the same time. This means that your strategy might be good but doesn't mean it will not fail you at times, and for the market to be dynamic, it means that you can never get its pattern and behave right all the time you expect it to move a certain way. Those are just the differences here, and with the right trading strategies, I am sure that you will always be a good market predictor, and some strategies even have over 90% accuracy, especially if you can combine strategies that filter one another for refined trading signals that would fail less times.

As for your question, I believe it was conceived due to the recent tragic event in the Bitcoin market where people expected it to be rising due to ETF approval. Well, it is good that we use our brain, but unfortunately, people those, particularly those that I had advised are all turning it down. My advice was that they should not believe in a widespread belief but to let their own analysis guide them. Even with halving, I will never be a blind trader/investor, I will move with the wave of the market even as my chart analysis confirms it.

As it is now, it wasn't difficult to see the bearish pattern coming into play on the daily chart, so that is enough for you to decide and for a guide. But in some market condition, the data and events could be a guide to point to the market condition as well.

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January 14, 2024, 04:38:01 PM
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Historically you can say that after bear market come bull run maybe it could be that we have always stick the market with halving sometimes we believed that after halving or getting close to halving we might start seeing some signs that indicates a bull run were you would start seeing bitcoin gain much price changes nd altcoin also increasing rapidly at this point we can assumed to be bull run, still can't be over emphasized or being overwhelmed about the market because we always believe bears always indicates when there is serious attack or bad news it could be hack from any reputable exchange or whatsoever. But as someone who has been in the space for long you should be able to know when the market is in bear or bull run.

If a bitcoin miner wants to invest in the next generation of ASICs and therefore sells 20 Million USD worth of bitcoin, we will probably have at least one bear day even in current volume.

Do you think if somebody sells 20 million USD worth of btc on the markets, the prices will dive 20%, globally? (because that's how we define bear markets.) I don't think so.

This is not possible to even have the market shaken or falling to about 20 percent because if converting $20m to btc we are have ~466BTC with the current price of $42,965. So there is no day this little volume will affect the market severely and negatively.

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January 14, 2024, 04:54:59 PM
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We know better cryptocurrency market always unpredictable. Yet we invest in the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes the market gradually turns to bear.
My question is how do we know if the market will go bearish.

You need to watch out the market carefully in order to observe the difference. Let me tell you a basic difference that always happens in the market. Notice if there are more people selling the coins, then it is a sign of bear market. On the other hand if more people are buying coins and investing in it, then definitely it will lead to a bull market. This is just an example and observation. You need to watch out small hints in order to get the required details for trade.

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January 14, 2024, 05:34:53 PM
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It's difficult to determine bearish, but the first thing we can see is the large global trading volume and look at the latest information about the market, what causes it and why that is, what I told you is only a small part of the bearish signs and there are many other factors, so it's quite difficult, trade carefully and stay abreast of market information
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