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Question: Who will win Lomachenko vs. Kambosos
Lomachenko by KO - 11 (57.9%)
Lomachenko by decision - 8 (42.1%)
Kambosos by KO - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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February 17, 2024, 11:36:10 AM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

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February 17, 2024, 12:28:11 PM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

That's another big fight for Loma, and if he'll succeed in this fight and the deal is done, then he is like fighting Haney on that fight. And the good news is if he'll defeat Shakur, he'll be back at the top and Haney if he goes down again might go with a rematch with Loma as sure people are still going to get hype with that, easy for the promoters to market the fight.

Shakur's last fight was last year Nov 11 against Edwin De Los Santos, and he won that fight through unanimous decision. I'm sure that Shakur will be tested if he'll square up with Loma who's a technical fighter, and who knows, he might crack the code on how to defeat opponents like Shakur or Haney.
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February 17, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

That's another big fight for Loma, and if he'll succeed in this fight and the deal is done, then he is like fighting Haney on that fight. And the good news is if he'll defeat Shakur, he'll be back at the top and Haney if he goes down again might go with a rematch with Loma as sure people are still going to get hype with that, easy for the promoters to market the fight.

Shakur's last fight was last year Nov 11 against Edwin De Los Santos, and he won that fight through unanimous decision. I'm sure that Shakur will be tested if he'll square up with Loma who's a technical fighter, and who knows, he might crack the code on how to defeat opponents like Shakur or Haney.

We always like to see the best fight for Loma. This fight is just not so hype since people know that Kambosos career is slowly going down after his two losses to Haney. The damage has been done for him, he took a higher risk, and he pay for the price. But just like Loma who aim to win big after losing to Haney, the same goes to Kambosos who are aiming to win a big fight so he'll go back in the list of popular boxers.

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February 20, 2024, 11:21:34 PM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

Yes sir, this is what we fans wanted, let's assumed that Loma win against George, then Shakur will be a great fight to see next. I think Shakur also wanted to test his skills against Loma and so most likely he will be very interested. And as said previously, Top Rank has a lot of good fighters in the 135 lbs and they can just fight each other and the winner will be Bob Arum.

Shakur though says that he is retired, but I don't think that is real. Maybe he is just waiting for good fighters to come, but one opinion against Shakur is that he is boring, just like in his last fight wherein he just avoided Edwin delos Santos.
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February 21, 2024, 12:03:24 AM
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Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.

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February 21, 2024, 08:55:13 PM
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Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I agree, this is a big fight for him, after that controversial lost against Haney, he will have to find a way to bounce back and this is another great opportunity for him. I think he can still pull that trigger and he will show that in this fight.

I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.

Yes, Kambosos is a huge underdog, I think it's fair to see him in that position. His style is suited for Loma, there might not be a knockout or a knockdown, but we might see Loma dominating Kambosos in his country.

 
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February 23, 2024, 06:37:53 PM
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Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I agree, this is a big fight for him, after that controversial lost against Haney, he will have to find a way to bounce back and this is another great opportunity for him. I think he can still pull that trigger and he will show that in this fight.
At least he tried all the best options to get back to the top. Though this one is really tough for him, and it's very evident here that people don't trust him to win. But at this point in his career, he needs to take risks as he has nothing to lose anymore.


I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.

Yes, Kambosos is a huge underdog, I think it's fair to see him in that position. His style is suited for Loma, there might not be a knockout or a knockdown, but we might see Loma dominating Kambosos in his country.

Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

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February 23, 2024, 07:00:09 PM
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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?

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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.
They did it once, so it will not happen again, as they don't want to accept a lot of criticism. It's also not good for promoters, as they'll know people would not watch if the fight is held in a country where decisions are expected to be biased. This is a title fight; they have to be careful with this, as it's the reputation of the IBF that will be at stake. Just like the fight of Pacman vs Horn, Pacman was the heavy favorite but ended up losing in a unanimous decision; it was a robbery in broad daylight. Horn will never be forgotten, as he is already in the books since Pacman is a legend.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
That's clearly up to him, he has no reputation to protect, so if his intention is to still enjoy his passion and make money at the same time, he'll remain in the pro but he's not gonna have big fights again since he'll drop to the bottom after this.
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February 23, 2024, 09:23:51 PM
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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.
I'm not sure if they have similar style, what I noticed though during the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao is that Jeff is a bigger fighter and so he bullish Manny that time and that is enough for the corrupt judges to see him winning. But in this fight, I don't think that George can bully Loma here. Loma is too technical and it might be a wrong strategy for him as I'm seeing that Loma will counter him with short left and right hand.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
He can still fight, but I don't think that he will be given chances again to fight for the belt. But who knows, Bob Arum has this influence and his Top Rank has control of boxers in the lower weight. So maybe they can have George fight up and coming fighters for the money.

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February 23, 2024, 09:48:21 PM
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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?

To be fair, there's not one high profile robbery fight in years in Australia after the Horn vs Pacquiao fight. Maybe they know that it did bring bad stigma to them. So now they are very careful of the fights being held that involved Australian. They still have Tim Tszyu as a champion and he had fights in Australia that hasn't been home cook, although it's either a stoppage win for Tim or a knockout victory.

But I will do agree that Loma shouldn't be self-assured here, in the Haney fight for me might have slow down in the championship rounds that's why Haney was able to steal the win in that fight. So he shouldn't do it here, he needs to show he has still the killer instinct to finished and knock his opponent out.
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February 25, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
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Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. Grin

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?

To be fair, there's not one high profile robbery fight in years in Australia after the Horn vs Pacquiao fight. Maybe they know that it did bring bad stigma to them. So now they are very careful of the fights being held that involved Australian. They still have Tim Tszyu as a champion and he had fights in Australia that hasn't been home cook, although it's either a stoppage win for Tim or a knockout victory.

But I will do agree that Loma shouldn't be self-assured here, in the Haney fight for me might have slow down in the championship rounds that's why Haney was able to steal the win in that fight. So he shouldn't do it here, he needs to show he has still the killer instinct to finished and knock his opponent out.

Robbery normally happens when a champion loses to a challenger. In the case of Tim Tszyu, he seemed to be the favorite or the champion, so he was expected to win. In this fight, Loma is the heavy favorite, so it will be controversial if the public perceives the fight as dominated by Loma, but it turns out that the victory is given to Kambosos if it goes the full 12 rounds.

I think every boxer fighting in the opponent's home country will make sure to secure a KO victory or at least show a very impressive performance to win, just to prevent this kind of controversial result from happening.
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

 
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February 26, 2024, 11:31:00 AM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

Some fans, yeah, but most of the fans believed he would not win. In fact, if we go back to the betting odds at that time, Haney was a clear favorite among the bookies, suggesting that he would win the fight. In fact, that's what happened. It wasn't a win that he had a hard time achieving, as it was just like a walk in the park for Haney. There's a huge difference in quickness, as Haney could easily hit Prograis and go back on his defense. Maybe his domination will continue, and I agree that he might move up sooner or later.

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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

Obviously, there are no boxers that can stay in one division, specially for those who have started in lower weight class. We have seen a lot of legendary and not so great boxers going up in weight. So I'm seeing both Shakur and Tank Davis could go up in weight, but it has to do with the timing. Maybe when some of the 140 lbs champions goes to welterweight like Teo and Haney maybe these two will have to jump.

Tank Davis for me will have to still proved himself in this 135 lbs. He has started now, Frank Martin in his next fight. But his true test will be Shakur and Loma. And I think he can beat both of this fighters. No more paper or free belt for Tank, he should earn it and fight the best and clean up this division.
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February 27, 2024, 05:28:08 AM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract.

This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

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February 27, 2024, 08:52:05 AM
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Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract.

I think it's Ryan or GBP who wanted the fight and that's the price they have to pay. As they allowed Tank and his camp to put a lot of clause in their contract, including rehydration and how big Ryan could be in the fight itself. Reasoning is that they don't want Ryan to have the advantage.

This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

 
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February 27, 2024, 12:47:25 PM
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This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

Tank avoided the rematch with Pitbull but when the latter struggled against the green but awkward Giovanni Cabrera in his last fight, a rematch was mentioned again. But maybe because of the many criticisms that Tank is just cherry picking and only wanted the rematch when Pitbull was showing weak in its last fight it failed to materialize probably because of the network unwilling to guarantee of a big purse.

Anyways, I expect Loma to win and become champion again. But I do not think he still has enough left to beat Shakur. Shakur just said he is fighting again but will only honor the last remaining fight with Top Rank. So I am not sure if there are networks and promoter that are willing to offer more money for a boring fighter like Shakur.

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February 28, 2024, 10:10:45 PM
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This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

Tank avoided the rematch with Pitbull but when the latter struggled against the green but awkward Giovanni Cabrera in his last fight, a rematch was mentioned again. But maybe because of the many criticisms that Tank is just cherry picking and only wanted the rematch when Pitbull was showing weak in its last fight it failed to materialize probably because of the network unwilling to guarantee of a big purse.

Anyways, I expect Loma to win and become champion again. But I do not think he still has enough left to beat Shakur. Shakur just said he is fighting again but will only honor the last remaining fight with Top Rank. So I am not sure if there are networks and promoter that are willing to offer more money for a boring fighter like Shakur.

That's what I'm trying to say with Tank, he chooses easy fight, that it might look and close in paper but still he is the A-side and going to knockout his opponent. Even in the Rolly Romero fight, Rolly in relatively unknown, but they try to spin as if Rolly has a punchers change against Tank and that Floyd or someone from his team thinks that Rolly can beat Tank.

I think that will be the leverage of Top Rank for Shakur to sign with them again, he will be given the chance to fight Loma which is one of his dream fights. It will be a big test for him and let's see if he can get the belt, assuming the Loma wins against George Kambosos in Australia.
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