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January 23, 2024, 08:39:20 AM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Regardless of the outcome of the bet, I will be angry at my child for stealing from me. I won't be angry he gambled as gambling isn't a bad thing when done correctly. He might be gambling as a form of entertainment or to double his money therefore I won't be angry with him for gambling but teach him how to do it right so he doesn't get addicted and becomes a gambling addict that'll destroy his life and that of other individuals that'll be around him including my self as he'll be stealing to fulfil his gambling urges.

What he did wrong was stealing as that's a bad habit and if it grows with him, he'll be bringing shame to the family and to himself. He'll be a convicted criminal and that'll spoil his chances to become a successful individual in life. Punishing him will be what I'll do to him so he learns his lesson that stealing isn't a good character to have. Stealing to gamble is worse as it shows signs of addiction.

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January 23, 2024, 08:51:54 AM
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The worried mother must have been upset that her son took $15 from her account to bet and then lost it. It's likely that losing money and breaking trust hurt her feelings. It's more possible that the person is mad about the illegal exit than about how the bet turned out. People might still be scared about the trust breach if the kid had won a lot of money, but they might not feel as bad about it. Deal with the broken trust, teach the young person how to be responsible, and come up with good ways to make sure it doesn't happen again.


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January 23, 2024, 08:56:24 AM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is bad whether or not it was used in good or bad thing. Nothing can ever justify an action no matter how heavy the situation is. If you stole a money, that is counted as a sin. And every sin has its corresponding punishment and consequences even if you are blood related, no matter how small or big the amount may be. Like what they say, the end doesn't justify the means. So if I were in the aunt's place, I will still be mad because of the fact that my son had stolen something valuable from me. If he badly wants it, he could have asked. And if he badly needed it, he could have done something to gain it in proper manner.

If someone can't be trusted with small things, how much more in bigger things? It should be known to his son that his mother will get mad for doing something unlawful and shows no moral compass. Since he stole it, it is just right for him to pay back what doesn't belong to him in the first place. And this is why people have negative view on gambling. If you don't have the means to gamble, just stay put. If you can't, work your ass off to have funds to stake, and do not bother other people.
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January 23, 2024, 09:05:12 AM
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You just reminded me how my grandma got incredibly angry when I stole 2 cents or more to play PS2 in my neighbor's house. I was so scared that I no longer play around at the house after that. Luckily my family bought me a computer so I can play games in my home. I don't think a good mother will just say "Okay fine at least you win" to her son regardless of the outcome as others have mentioned, since that is just setting up a bad precedent that might destroy his life sooner or later.

Deal with the broken trust, teach the young person how to be responsible, and come up with good ways to make sure it doesn't happen again.
This is probably what the son needs to do. The bad news is it will never 'end' in the sense that his mother will be able to trust him just like before. She will get suspicious once in a while even if he really didn't do anything but he must accept it as a consequence of breaking her trust. At the end of the day, it is almost impossible to repair a broken trust. Just like the saying goes, it takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair.

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January 23, 2024, 09:39:22 AM
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What he did wrong was stealing as that's a bad habit and if it grows with him, he'll be bringing shame to the family and to himself. He'll be a convicted criminal and that'll spoil his chances to become a successful individual in life. Punishing him will be what I'll do to him so he learns his lesson that stealing isn't a good character to have. Stealing to gamble is worse as it shows signs of addiction.
I agree with you that the habit of stealing from an early age will make him become accustomed to stealing until he grows up, therefore it is best to advise him as much as possible not to do it a second time, it is a mistake of a child to steal, we cannot punish it in a harsh way because Whatever we blame, there must be a cause and reason that we don't know but it makes him want to do it. The point is to give the correct advice that stealing is not justified, especially because it is for gambling.

An addiction to gambling from an early age was probably what made him do that so he dared to do it because he thought his mother wouldn't know and would be angry, luckily he didn't do it, steal other people's money out there, possibly if he was caught he would be subject to criminal law, before the child did anything excessive. It's good to give advice because in a harsh way it won't help anything. My friend advised his child in a harsh way, but his son kept wanting to do it. Sometimes we need to approach children and advise them in a good way and then direct them that the action they are taking is wrong.

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January 23, 2024, 09:50:45 AM
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The worried mother must have been upset that her son took $15 from her account to bet and then lost it. It's likely that losing money and breaking trust hurt her feelings. It's more possible that the person is mad about the illegal exit than about how the bet turned out. People might still be scared about the trust breach if the kid had won a lot of money, but they might not feel as bad about it. Deal with the broken trust, teach the young person how to be responsible, and come up with good ways to make sure it doesn't happen again.
A mother will be upset when she discovers her son has stolen her money. It's not a matter of the amount of money but because his actions have upset the mother and have clearly damaged her trust in her child, especially if her child uses the money to gamble. This will make his mother even more annoyed and angry because the stolen money was used for gambling, which was not what his mother taught him. Indeed, it would be better for the mother and other family members to make the child aware so that he does not steal again and learns to be responsible for his actions. Maybe a little punishment is enough to wake the child so he won't repeat it. However, this is a lesson for us to always be careful in educating our children.

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January 23, 2024, 10:02:33 AM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.
first question is that , How do the Son have that withdrawal when the mobile should have password on it?

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Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.
calling everyone? she is the parent meaning she have lost about how to handle Her own child, then that is insane.

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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I will never be that kind , because I am not careless to provide security on my phone , and also if ever this happened to me? I will make sure that my son will regret what he have done here.

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January 23, 2024, 10:05:26 AM
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If this... happened in my little family... To be honest, I would feel disappointed in my child, because so far I have never taught him to steal or take things that don't belong to him and lie to his parents. Moreover, he used his money to gamble.

Why should you feel disappointed in your child, if this is you who failed to raise him? Feel disappointed in yourself. Because you have failed to make him understand that stealing is bad. Its is your fault that he has used gambling to get more money for example, or did not know when to stop. You should have explained all that, but the kid only did what he thought was right. That is the problem of many parents, instead of searching the root of a problem, they blame only the final link.

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January 23, 2024, 11:33:47 AM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

It doesn't matter to me if the child won the bet or not, what matters is that he gambled with a stolen money, and that is a criminal act, if the child is an adult then he can go to jail and serve time for stealing.

The mother telling a child that does not have a source of income to replace money that is gone is the same thing as telling him to go and steal it from someone else, but I guess that the mother said that out of frustration and never really meant it. The first thing for her to do is change her account passwords and hide every sensitive information where the child can not access them, to avoid a repeat of similar incident. Also the young Man needs continuous counseling about the dangers of stealing and the loses in gambling, by professionals or family and friends that he's familiar with,

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January 23, 2024, 12:03:39 PM
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You are not to get too mad with your son, let him know that you are not happy with what he did but instead of showing much hate try to teach him about gambling instead, tell him what awaits someone who don't know a lot about gambling and he will either choose to quit or choose to be a responsible gambler.

I would love him to quit because I won't want were by his attention will shift from his studies into gambling, this is very possible but he might also start hiding stuffs from me, the truth is if he still have interest in gambling he can do it behind your back.

If you don't like your son hiding things from you it's better to pretend as if you are in support and expose what gambling really looks like to him, he will learn and you need to discipline him if he stole the money for gambling, this are two separate lessons you need to teach him.

One for stealing money to gamble, this is wrong, stealing is wrong.

Secondly, you need to teach him the act of a responsible gambler, you won't know of he still have interest or not, he might not quit gambling easily.

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January 23, 2024, 12:25:30 PM
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Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.
oh the parent would have really felt disappointed right now as she didn't raised the child that way.

Anyways, the child shouldn't just be disciplined for discipline sake but should be chastised in a manner that points to the danger of his actions and, he shouldn't be required to provide the money he had stolen and used to gamble, it could lead to worse case scenario if you know what i mean.
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January 23, 2024, 12:29:22 PM
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I don't have a son yet but I have a daugther who already gamble, but it's just for fun. If time will come that she will steal money from me to gamble, I would feel disappointed but I would not be to harsh to here since I also gamble and I know what gambling can do if a person gets addicted to it. I have my time focus on here and help here to recover, gambling is suppose to be for fun and we can only achieve that we are have limitations.

Maybe it's also important that we should educate our children about gambling even if they aren't gambling, so if the time comes that they will try, they won't be ignorant and will make stupid mistakes.

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January 23, 2024, 12:43:53 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is a sign of a very bad character, even if my son won millions my big concern is he will waste the money he won, you cannot expect someone with a bad character to spend his money wisely, he might waste it by continuously gambling and buy expensive things that he doesn't need or do partying because a thief who has a lot of money will just waste the money.

If this happens to my son I will be alarmed because there's a possibility that I'm raising a criminal who will become a menace or a problem child so to avoid these things from happening I will have to send my son to a rehabilitation center, and guide him and follow his progress until he is cured.
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January 23, 2024, 12:56:39 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

It doesn't matter to me if the child won the bet or not, what matters is that he gambled with a stolen money, and that is a criminal act, if the child is an adult then he can go to jail and serve time for stealing.

The mother telling a child that does not have a source of income to replace money that is gone is the same thing as telling him to go and steal it from someone else, but I guess that the mother said that out of frustration and never really meant it. The first thing for her to do is change her account passwords and hide every sensitive information where the child can not access them, to avoid a repeat of similar incident. Also the young Man needs continuous counseling about the dangers of stealing and the loses in gambling, by professionals or family and friends that he's familiar with,
The mother was concerned that the boy had only lost $15, and that the situation could have been worse if the boy had lost a larger amount. I do not know whether the boy is an adult or not? I have seen some minors who used to gamble by transferring money to their father's account. But after a few days, one person was found in the hands of his father and he recognise that the boy steal money and gamble with that money. Later he was brought back to normal after various persuasions. If a child does such a thing, parents should quickly change their account or other wallet keys and keep them in a safe place.

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January 23, 2024, 01:06:24 PM
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Obviously, I'll be disappointed and I have already experienced such a scenario but my mind was not spent on gambling they spent it on online games and they even plan to get some more thankfully I was alerted by SMS on my phone so I was able to quickly prevent it. At this point, they should probably teach that kid a lesson and also make it more hard for him to acquire money from them because obviously, he won't spend it on something he really needs but rather on the things he is addicted to. Prevention is better than cure, they should step forward today or gonna cry tomorrow because they cannot stop him anymore due to his addiction becoming worse than before.

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January 23, 2024, 01:24:12 PM
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I can't picture out how it feels but if ever it happened, it would be a big shame on myself for not guiding them to the right path. As he already knows how to steal from me, he could possibly steal things from others. It should be stopped before it gets worse and before it becomes a habit.

Even though that kid won the bet but because it was coming from stealing, we could say thanks instead, telling them that it is not right and should not be happening again. This kid of behavior should not be tolerated or else, it is just like we are telling them to do steal more.



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January 23, 2024, 01:59:23 PM
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I don't have a son yet but I have a daugther who already gamble, but it's just for fun. If time will come that she will steal money from me to gamble, I would feel disappointed but I would not be to harsh to here since I also gamble and I know what gambling can do if a person gets addicted to it. I have my time focus on here and help here to recover, gambling is suppose to be for fun and we can only achieve that we are have limitations.

Maybe it's also important that we should educate our children about gambling even if they aren't gambling, so if the time comes that they will try, they won't be ignorant and will make stupid mistakes.

maybe this is what is called "the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree", so your daughter's behavior is at least similar to what you said, but even though your daughter gambles just for fun, I hope you don't ignore her too much or let her go by not watch him well. because even so, in my opinion, the risk of addiction is still there, if your daughter is fed up with the gambling she does which always ends in losing and that can trigger her emotions to rise, then it is possible that she could become addicted to gambling too. then negative thoughts are created, such as secretly stealing your money.

But did you teach your daughter to gamble yourself? or show your gambling activities in front of your daughter? because there are discussions outside this topic that discuss "don't gamble in front of children" I think this is true, we shouldn't gamble in front of our children, let alone teach them to gamble. In my opinion, educating children well is a must, not impossible, in fact, in my opinion, children should not be educated or introduced to gambling, because I'm sure you also know the bad effects of gambling. because there have been many cases of people who gamble for fun but become addicted to gambling. because losing self-control in gambling can change the mindset of someone who plays it in a short period of time.

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January 23, 2024, 02:30:55 PM
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The game results will be different,but the gambling industry will give you the jackpot one day.The gamblers should wait for the big win,he should accept all the small losses in their career.The losses doesn’t affect the gamblers at the initial stage,but the big win will change the life of the gamblers in real.The gamblers who get the loss in the game in the continuous way need to wait for the longer period,because the gamblers may do the gambling in the wrong strategy.It was important for the gamblers to get away from their strategy and build the new strategy in the gambling.The gamblers who play gambling with loan should play only with strategy.

To be honest, I really don't understand what you are saying here or how it all connects to the statement I made above.
 
In truth, one day, whoever is gambling, if they continue to gamble, is going to win gambling. Someday, one cannot remain unlucky for the 365 days that we have in a year, and when the right time comes with the right strategy, the person is going to go home with a good winning amount.
 
But when it comes to taking what is not yours to gamble with it all in the name of you wanting to fulfil your gambling desire, that's where I'm  against it.Whoever wants to gamble should gamble with what they can afford, but taking that which does not belong to them is stealing.
 
No matter what the gambling result is going to turn out to be, they should be punished for stealing. I know if the person wins big, they will offer to pay back the stolen money, but still, it doesn't make sense that the child should be corrected by whatever means necessary.

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January 23, 2024, 05:14:29 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I know that some people would come up with such a question to ask "Had it been he won millions from the bet", what would the mother do? To be happy about it(that's what the minds of people would assume).

There is an adage that says ''Spare the rod and spoil the child''. There are some families, whose parents won't accept the wealth of their sons if not gotten in the rightful way they assign.

For the son's mother to call everyone to inform them about her son stealing her money to gamble, means she hates what her son did with passion. If her son had won millions from it, she might not accept it.

If she accepts it as a mother who needs money, in the future her son can do the worst and by then she won't have the boldness to question him about having such a bad attitude about betting with stolen money.

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What he did wrong was stealing as that's a bad habit and if it grows with him, he'll be bringing shame to the family and to himself. He'll be a convicted criminal and that'll spoil his chances to become a successful individual in life. Punishing him will be what I'll do to him so he learns his lesson that stealing isn't a good character to have. Stealing to gamble is worse as it shows signs of addiction.

In general, I agree, but we also need to take age into account. If a child takes his parents’ money without asking at the age of 16, then this is already very close to theft, but if he does this at 10, then this is completely different. It seems to me that at this age children quite logically regard family property as something common and the “secret” waste of part of the property is perceived by them not as theft but as a cunning but harmless move (like reading a book under the blanket with a flashlight instead of sleeping). But since we are talking about gambling here, most likely the child’s age is closer to 16 than 10 and he has obvious moral problems or a gambling addiction.

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