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January 21, 2024, 09:11:54 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
mentally, this will affect the child's future and most mothers will not agree if their child gambles even if they win millions of dollars.
did you ever remember there was a thread where a boy got a big win but his father told him to return the winnings to the casino?

that's one example, not only a mother but even a father won't agree if their child gambles, even if they just want to have fun, but there are still many other ways to have fun without being involved in gambling.
parents definitely think about what's best for their children, especially if a mother finds out that her child stole money just to gamble and when he comes home with millions of dollars in large amounts of money, his mother will definitely not agree because initially the money used for betting was the money he stole and a mother would definitely think that child's future could be threatened if you let your child continue gambling and one day they could steal a large amount again and if you say imagine I am a mother I will educate my child to immediately leave gambling with the threat of not being given any money.
It would really be that so normal for a parent to scold up their child about on what happened on which we do know that stealing or getting things which arent theirs is never been that good or something which is really that ethical to do so.Plus, this is you do able to see that they are involving with gambling on which it is really just that right that we should really be telling them about its cons
and its real disadvantage on which we know that this is something that good to tell them about it. We do know that cons of gambling and we dont for our children
to experience the worst and this is why it would really be that better that you should really be teaching them on whats the right way. Hitting up millions?
Its rare but you wont really be that get frustrated if ever this one happens but most of the time you would definitely lose.
Very normal indeed, just like you said on which no parent will really be happy basing up on the thing that had been done by his/her child on which stealing is always bad thing.
Now that you've seen that he's really that involved with gambling then it is really just that right to tell them its bad and should be avoided.

You cant really just that make yourself to get pass on what they have done and its better to tell them about the bitter truth about gambling
that majority do messed up their lives because of it.

As early as you could then better to stop those kind of habits because we've seen that theyve been stealing already not really just that because you are their parents
but high likely it would be done on other people as well. This is solid indication that you are already addicted to it.

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January 21, 2024, 09:12:32 PM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.
First of all, her son shouldn't have access to her banking account. If he went through it using her mobile device, it means he knew her password or it was configured to login automatically. Sorry, but it's her fault as well for being so careless with her mobile device and banking account. Imagine if it was a thief, instead of her son to take the device (after all, not that it makes much difference at all... Grin). I think the damage would be much superior than 15$...

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.
Well, of course she is right by disciplining the son for his wrongdoing, however, to order him to refund her through any means can put this young into more trouble... He can seek for money though illegal activities, and it can introduce him to the criminal world. I guess the right approach would be the mother to find a work his son could execute and put him to work there until earning the 15$ back. The point is that she can't say to her son to get the money back without giving further guidance on how to do this correctly.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I believe she wouldn't be mad on him in that case, as it would have been a very fortunate surprise for the whole family. But at same time, she would have to discipline him in every cases. If I were the mother, I would grab the whole prize and invest it for the future of my son. By there, the money would remain untouchable by him as punishment for the theft.

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January 21, 2024, 09:29:23 PM
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I wouldn't scold him if I knew he stole my money, but I would ask him to talk privately. I will ask him why he stole, and if I know that the money was used for gambling, I will explain that gambling has risks and that if it is stolen money, he can be caught by the police if he steals it from someone else. I will not report it to the authorities, but I will ask him not to do it again.

If a teenager is scolded, he will become wilder and more difficult to advise. They tend to want to explore their curiosity and do what they want. As parents, we may need to take a different approach, especially since they are approaching adolescence.

If the child wins a lot of money, I'm not sure if the mother will be disappointed and angry. However, the mother could be disappointed and angry because the money is used for gambling, whereas the mother does not like seeing her child gambling. But the mother will still forgive her child because I'm sure the mother will love him.

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January 21, 2024, 09:30:35 PM
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Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.
All these effects follows in among the disadvantages of gambling since it could lead to criminality and anyone who has gotten to the addiction phases always face this difficulties and there is no way of adjustment or to heal the son from such attitude since it was something he began to practice on time. From what I have seen from the statement it seems the son is beyond control, causing serious damage to the family it only needs the intervention of God to heal him from this attitude.


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January 21, 2024, 10:45:23 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
It's not gambling that will make me angry, it's how he steals from his family whether he will use it to gamble or for anything, you don't and you never steal from your family, it is dishonesty, cheating and a sign of bad character and it reflects on the whole family.

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Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I will not only be disappointed but will also be alarmed to have a son like this, we'll have a heart-to-heart talk and rehabilitate him so he can be healed from gambling, and if he is still underage I will have into strict supervision, it's not natural for a child to steal and it's a huge concern not only for the family but for the society if one child thinks that stealing is ok, he will grown up to become a menace to society, so it's better for the child to be rehabilitated and to get cured from gambling and dishonesty.

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January 21, 2024, 10:55:12 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I would be angry, but any responsible mother or father would. Because it's not the matter of winning or not. It's the matter of taking your money without your consent (stealing) in the first place. Result of the gamble is irrelevant.

But i have a question, what this son thought would happen? He obviously knew that he would get caught for mobile transfer. With stolen cash he might have got out of it if he won and returned the money without mom noticing. Not that it would be ok either, but if mom didn't knew about it she wouldn't be angry either. Transferring the winning money on the other hand would make her be aware of the theft.

But as a first world citizen, it makes me feel disheartened that mom worked hard to save $15. I know that life expenses in some countries are low but $15 in here gets you maybe 2 beers in a cheap bar. Hopefully that mom recovers from that and son learned a lesson. Because this is not a gambling issue, this is a issue of stealing.




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January 21, 2024, 11:49:19 PM
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My state of mind? I would feel very disappointed and angry about it at first, because we are talking about theft. Regardless the child is part of the family and the household, one needs to call it for what it is and that was plain and simple theft. After the initial anger and misbelief I would feel, then I would think on there the implications of having a gambling addicted thief living close to me.
I would try to keep my money out of all reach for such person and the think of ways to get him a proper punishment and rehabilitation.

Also, if we are taking about 15$, as if it was an important amount of money to someone in that country, then the punishment needs to be equal to the misbehavior. If I could I would force him to pay all back in parts and get him away from means to gamble more money he could find in other places.

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January 22, 2024, 12:00:05 AM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
It's not gambling that will make me angry, it's how he steals from his family whether he will use it to gamble or for anything, you don't and you never steal from your family, it is dishonesty, cheating and a sign of bad character and it reflects on the whole family.

Well that's right, before going into gambling we can discuss from the other side first, as you discuss here that the child already has a bad personality and morals in him so that he can have the courage to steal money from one of his family members, and is this as a result of the wrong upbringing of parents? this can be used as an excuse but I can't be completely sure, because on the other hand I think that indeed the impact of gambling involvement can also make a person act out of control especially if he has entered the addiction phase in the sense that he is hopeful and cannot miss the slightest time not to gamble.

We can see that it is not uncommon for cases to occur that gamblers who are addicted to them are desperate to commit acts out of control such as robbery or other criminal acts and one of the causes is because gambling activities have affected their common sense. So the point is in this problem in my opinion there are two things that can be the reason why a child can be reckless like that.

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January 22, 2024, 10:06:47 AM
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A lot of individuals are stressing on to know if the child is old enough to gamble, i don't know if they want to give him benefits of considerations pertaining his action of stealing from his mom to gamble.
Anyway... Whether below or up to the age of Gambling, he has proven that he can't take control of his emotions and if he continues gambling, he would have all sorts of irresponsible reputations and regrettable moments in his gambling life so it would be better of him to face the disciplinary measures that it deserves.

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January 22, 2024, 11:00:22 AM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
That's not the right question to ask, of course, she would be happy if he had managed to win a multi million price from that money, but since he didn't, it became a double shocker for the mom because first he stole the money and then lost it all. So, she might have felt bad for the stealing part but she surely wouldn't have been disheartened or mad if the guy could manage to win something significant and give the money to her.

Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
Even though I'm not a female, but I can easily say that I would get extremely mad for him to first steal money from my account and then losing it all in gambling. If he had asked me for money and then used that money for gambling, it would be different, and I would maybe just be a little mad for his gambling activities but not for the stealing part.

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January 22, 2024, 11:14:15 AM
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

A stupid question (in the context of “what if he won”). There is a factor of chance in life and sometimes bad behavior is rewarded and good behavior, on the contrary, is punished, but if you are not indifferent to the fate of your child, then most likely it is important for you that he does the right thing, regardless of the fact that sometimes bad actions bring benefits. I think that any reasonable mother would be upset by her son’s theft, regardless of the results of his gambling.
By the way, since you love thought experiments, how about this: a person kills and robs another person. Later it turns out that the murdered man was a maniac. Does this allow us to praise the burglar?

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January 22, 2024, 12:35:41 PM
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Teaching harsh lessons is indeed very natural thing to happen if child has made fatal mistake, but it should not be excessive because it will affect the child psychology and mindset towards his parents.
I know that stealing is very bad thing and must always be avoided. Gradually, child must always be guided and not make the same mistakes. He may experience lack of concern from his parents so that he can get to know gambling and he will definitely have associations in living environment that is not good.

Teaching hard lessons is necessary. Parents have to be careful with their children. If the son of someone gambled, that mean he is grown up enough who understand gambling. He is not a toddler who does not understand what is right and what is wrong. I won't support beating a eight years old child for stealing, I would teach him and guide him instead.

But if a 15 years old son do this, surely I will have to talk to him and teach him a hard lesson if it's necessary. I have seen people allowing their kids do whatever they want and their expectations always grew up as long as their parents allowed them doing unethical things like stealing from others. If you see that your kid is stealing, he behaving rude, you have to teach him and guide him.
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If my son stole my money to gamble, then I should give him more lunch money, because he is in short of funds. Just kidding Cheesy

Of course this is a huge tragedy, even though people wont admit it. Proper words would be parenting failure. Because parents failed to explain basics of what is good or bad, what is accepted in society and what is not. I am already expecting people from Never gamble in front of your kids to come and talk about addiction, and the reason for act of theft was because parents gambled in front of kid. This has little to do with gambling. This is not about gambling at all. Then it will be "never steal in from of your kids". Gambling is just an excuse. The kid stole because he needed money, not because he wanted to gamble. He could have stolen money for candies, clothes, video games, toys.

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January 22, 2024, 12:51:31 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
How she's reacting is just a normal way every non-gamblers would possibly react, due to the fact they do not understand anything and the drive in gambling.
It is just exactly same way non football players will hate and curse a goalkeeper after he fails to save the ball from entering the goal post, and this very same goal keeper have in the same match saved like 8 to 10 possible or potential goals, and non will remember that, every bodies mind is shifted to just that particular one he was not able to save.

If the boy had won millions, the woman possibly will not react the way she is reacting because, she would have her $15 back, and possibly even much more than her $15 that was used for the bet.
But right now the money is lost,  she can't have her $15 back, and she did not give the consent for the money to be used to play gambling, it was stolen from her, how she is reacting is completely normal.

And if I was her or in her shoes, first, let me say that no one of my child will dare to steal my money to use for gambling, he or she will be a dead meat, it is better to ask, and I willingly decide to give you the money or not, but stealing my money and using it not anything meaningful but gambling, I possibly may not ask that you return the money by whatever means, but what I did do, you as my child will prefer I had asked you to return the money.

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January 22, 2024, 12:55:14 PM
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would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
It is still unethical for the kid to stole that money from his parents account even if that bet got the winning. That is a stepping stone to becoming an irresponsible gambler on his adulthood. But mixed emotions will surely happen during that time, like tears of joy and the feeling of slight disgust for stealing that hard earned money from her account.

Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
Well, I will teach this kid a lesson to not steal money from anybody. He might get jailed for that behavior. Let his conscience haunt him so he will no longer do that again. Tell that kid he has no idea how hard it is to come up with that amount on her account.









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January 22, 2024, 12:55:22 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?

No one knows the real answer here because your auntie is the one who’s involved on this situation not us.

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Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

I will be furious if my son do this even if he win huge amount of money since the fact of stealing money is an act of dishonesty which shouldn’t be praise nor rewarded despite the outcome is good because he will keep doing it in the future if you let it slide.

As a parent, we should not tolerate this kind of act because this will be a problem in the future once he have a chance to do it and with worst outcome.

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January 22, 2024, 12:56:16 PM
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I will not accept this action because if left unchecked it will continue. The act of stealing is not an action that everyone wants and the act of stealing cannot be justified even if what is stolen is money belonging to parents.

Taking a parent's money without their knowledge to use it for gambling is far worse than common theft. This is not about how the child will win large amounts of money but it is about the right behavior in life.
Today he dares to take our money as a mother, tomorrow when he grows up he is not afraid to commit robbery and is ready to take people's lives if possible.

It's clear, I myself would scold behavior like that, because it's not good treatment, stealing is not a good thing and I think everyone knows this. If their children dare to steal, chances are they are already addicted to gambling, but it would be a shame if they are still easily addicted to gambling because that is not a commendable thing. In my opinion, people who are addicted to gambling will only think about gambling, and when the money they have runs out, they will do other things, such as stealing, on this topic.

If a child is addicted to gambling then I will advise him well, and if he dares to steal then I will scold him, because what they are doing is wrong, especially stealing to gamble, I don't think they are the only mistake they have made. What I'm afraid of is that they will get used to it and then become bolder, like committing robbery or other things like what you said.
Therefore we have to educate our children well,  because we have a role in educating children to be good and useful children. If there are children who do that, in my opinion it is because their friend environment is not good or lack of parental supervision.

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January 22, 2024, 01:04:21 PM
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A lot of individuals are stressing on to know if the child is old enough to gamble, i don't know if they want to give him benefits of considerations pertaining his action of stealing from his mom to gamble.
When I see people who are more interested to know about the childs age before they can determine the level of his wrong, it makes me understand how decayed the modern day society have actually gone and it's a very big issue that's giving me concerns. How did we start to use a childs age to know if he should be punished for stealing in the first place or not. For the child to be able to steal his parent's money to gamble, he must have been involving himself in other activities that are related to stealing and if he's not adequately punished for his actions, he'll continue to steal and probably go wild with his stealing habit.


Gambling, he has proven that he can't take control of his emotions and if he continues gambling, he would have all sorts of irresponsible reputations and regrettable moments in his gambling life so it would be better of him to face the disciplinary measures that it deserves.
A child who steals his parent's money to gamble has  proven that he's already addicted to gambling and can do anything possible to make sure he gambles stealing included. That's actually a very big problem for his parents if you ask me and if he's not stopped at his very tender age, it'll cause a disaster for the child and to also everyone around him. This is one of the major reasons why it's very advisable for adults not to engage in any gambling activities in front of kids in other not to expose them to gambling in their very early age

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January 22, 2024, 01:08:51 PM
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If my child steals money and uses it for gambling, I will scold him and give him punishment, this is a lesson in his life, that stealing is bad, and gambling is not intended for small children, I will stress him at all costs. so that he doesn't do it again, because if left unchecked he will be even more daring to take the next action, it's better to prevent this with harsh means.

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January 22, 2024, 01:10:29 PM
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Regardless the parent don't allow the kids to not gamble or not, stole someone money can't be a forgiven!
You can't forgive your own blood? I mean yes, stealing has some consequences especially if it was stolen by your son, but being unforgivable is quite harsh.
It is better said to be forgiven but not forgotten because such scenarios worth an immediate correctional measures so as it doesn't proceed a concurring occurrence and because we are humans, such disasterous activity is likely not easy to be forgotten by either the guys parents or the guy himself because remembrance of it is a reminder of conciousness measures.

You don't have to be a mom, dad, grandmother, brother, sister, etc to know if stole someone money is right or not, imagine if I stole your money, are you fine with that?
On the other side, if your son can steal then there's probably something wrong on how you grew him up, maybe you are lacking of communication and guidance. There should be some kind of punishment for them but the blood stays in your veins. [/quote]
On a straight forward note, please it would be awful giving excuses towards this guys action to had stolen from the mom for gambling.
I also doubt if the guys action was as a lineage immunity or how he was nurtured by his parents.
Ignorance should not be an excuse because I practically know that my parents doesn't gamble but I do and of course there are other side stuffs I do which my parents doesn't know about neither do they also practices the same thing.
Lifestyle is clearly an individual choice and yeah, childrens lifestyles could still be inflicted by how they are brought up by their parents or guidances.

Even he can earn money with the stolen money, I won't happy with that.
Stealing is stealing, regardless of anything.

Verily exciting expressions in such situations is as encouraging the young boy to do more with the tips to steal and utilizes the opportunity to create income as such. Adamantly, this could signify that such act is never a mysterious concurance but a lineage immunity possessions.

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