gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit.

[junder]

The main factor in gambling is seeking financial gain. The aim is to have fun. In my opinion, in the hearts of those who gamble with that aim, they also want profitable wins. and indeed winning at gambling should be considered a bonus if they gamble with the aim of having fun, but in reality I think more people gamble with the aim of winning, because that is the main thing every gambler is looking for.

In my opinion, the joy in gambling is in winning, not in losing, if we win then we will get pleasure, and what I want to ask is,  where is the joy of gambling if not in winning?
Is there anything else that can make us happy apart from winning in gambling wins, because as far as I know many people who gamble are happy when they win. gambling for fun is that just an alibi?

If you've ever felt when you lose but you still feel happy, whether it's from the games offered from the sensations given from gambling that you do and your adrenaline feels attracted to one gambling or betting and you enjoy it, have you ever felt that way? feel happier because some people think that gambling is where they relieve the stress that is wrapped in their lives. This is indeed not logically digestible because we see many facts that people who win always feel happy, but out there are also many people who feel happy and happy even though they experience defeat, who knows what is behind it someone must have a certain reason they feel happy even though they experience defeat in gambling, including me personally.

I've never felt that way, and in my opinion there's no pleasure in losing when gambling, but if it's a sensation maybe it's true. In my opinion, winning at gambling can bring pleasure, but not losing. But what about you yourself, have you ever felt pleasure in losing? There are also quite a few people who gamble to improve their finances, but in my opinion this is certainly not true, because gambling cannot help to improve financial problems consistently.

is that true? with many people who are happy even though they experience defeat in gambling. I'm not sure myself, but even so, each individual feels this way. In my opinion, what they are primarily after when people gamble is financial gain, where they can be happy if they win. and I'm sure that many gamblers want victory, not pleasure.

[tbterryboy]

Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

I think what that means is that altcoins performance is not predetermined maybe like bitcoin that is expected to rise anytime halving is around and the rise of altcoins has to follow suit if at all because some are shit coins so it is that rate of shitcoins that gambling is compared with altcoins. Memecoins are not to be relied on actually like gambling is not to be relied on so when investing on it you have to take the risk you can bear and gamble as you can bear also.

The point is, that everything is a gamble where you are putting your money at stake without knowing what you are doing and just hoping that your luck will favour you. So, trading is no exception if we are talking about this thing.

A person who is buying a certain cryptocurrency without having any knowledge about it or having any experience with the market is gambling with their money because they don't know what the outcome could be but they are just making a bet.

This is the only reason why trading can sometimes be compared with gambling, otherwise, trading is a completely different thing altogether.

[Kelward]

Gambling for financial gains will be a very big mistake because there is no guarantee of getting steady income from it, and a responsible person with financial obligations can not depend on gambling profit to make ends meet. Gambling should be for fun and whatever outcome that the bet gives must be accepted, because it's based on luck. We should never rely on something that it's earnings are based on luck for our main source of income, that'll be irresponsible act.

[doomloop]

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Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

any activity related to gambling must always be done for fun. earn? in the long term it is really difficult, only a few manage to be truly profitable, only under certain conditions...
I will not spend more of 5% in gambling activity. Like any other hobby it deserve a kind of limit.

I think having a business is also a type of gambling and I don't think we can be successful with it if we won't take it seriously. And even on a literal gambling in a casino, there are still games that we can be more successful if we take them more serious. The only difference of gambling in a casino from gambling by opening a business is, in gambling in a casino, we can be able to do it for fun and that it is more effective to do if we only use small amounts of money. IDK if using 5 percent in gambling is still under our range, because there is a thread here last time which states that we shouldn't use more than 1 percent of our salary in gambling.

[bakasabo]

The difference is in a bet amount. When gambler places a dollar foe example, it is about having fun. But when he places a thousand for example, it is more about getting a real financial benefit, as gambler must have had a real reason to do that. Imho both options are true. Each indicidual seaks for something particular for himself in gambling. Each gambling seasson is different and we gamble for different purposes. So there is no true or right or wrong opinion on that.

[ARTOIS]

The objective of gambling is always for win no one do it for fun   but there is some entertainment and to avoid the risks and negative consequences I always stop  after some winning amount
What is important is not the amount you gamble with, it is that you understand the risks and have a playing strategy and know when to stop

[piebeyb]

Gambling for financial gains will be a very big mistake because there is no guarantee of getting steady income from it, and a responsible person with financial obligations can not depend on gambling profit to make ends meet. Gambling should be for fun and whatever outcome that the bet gives must be accepted, because it's based on luck. We should never rely on something that it's earnings are based on luck for our main source of income, that'll be irresponsible act.

Yes, it's true because gambling will not give us a steady income, therefore don't ever expect more when playing gambling, just enjoy the game and don't think that it can boost our economy, after all gambling was not created to make gamblers financially rich, but was created for entertainment. For rich people, it's just that people from a lower middle class economy often try their luck by gambling and eventually they get carried away and become addicted to gambling.

Rich people will definitely consider gambling as a game of entertainment and having fun, that's why it's rare for lower middle class people to have fun in gambling because they only gamble for financial gain, so different economic classes will also have different goals for gambling, but many people are wrong. understand the meaning of why gambling should be fun because what is meant is the mindset that must be changed by considering gambling as a game for entertainment so that it is not focused on financial goals which makes us increasingly out of control, if we have fun gambling we will not be too careless in playing responsibly.

[dansus021]

That's how it should be since losing is inevitable. Therefore we must be prepared for this kind of scenario. If a gambler can't handle such situation because of the high hopes to double his wager, then his main desire is not to really have fun but to gain. It's a human nature to feel sad when we experience to lose but it's already a given situation that we should keep in mind before playing. Thus if you can't bear losing your money in gambling then don't force yourself to play to avoid having gambling problems.

Yes, winning can give us happiness, especially if the win is big. We want to get another big win and because of that, we will be lured back into continuing gambling even though we might not get as lucky as before. We will become greedy because we want an even bigger win so we are willing to sacrifice the winnings we have earned to get another big win. And at that moment, we will see that the big win will not always come after we win because it will also depend on our luck. If we are lucky, we can get that big win, but if not, we will only lose money, which could even take away all the money we have won. That's why we must be wise and know what we must do after winning. And it's better for us to immediately end the gambling game after getting a big win to enjoy the winnings and celebrate with our friends or family.

yeah that is human nature and every person has it, but what makes it different from other people is how we control it. Double wager is always a tempting after you win very big and hope that you can make double it again. and also it comes when you lose so much double wager are comes to you and hope that you are going to win this time.

Just opinion after winning big we should probably started to think about withdrawal 

[ethereumhunter]

Until then, gambling just for fun will always be something that must be done and for those who have the idea of gambling to make money, there must be an overhaul of this mindset.
Gambling just for fun will be able to provide satisfaction with all the things we achieve, we can get adrenaline and entertainment even if we experience defeat so there will be no effort in increasing the amount of betting money that could be lost altogether.
Gamblers will only be able to accept small losses and for large losses they will always make efforts to recover so that gambling within the limits of their abilities and with the aim of being means of entertainment will provide more responsible attitude.

Moreover, there will be truly very pleasant feeling if we are able to accept all defeats.
This does not mean that we do not value money but rather we are more likely to be able to maintain financial stability and avoid excessive losses.
Most gamblers will always want to win, but because in gambling winning is not an easy thing to achieve and losing is guaranteed outcome, we must have an attitude that is able to maintain and accept whatever we have.

Gambling for fun is something we can do and it should be like that to avoid problems that can arise from gambling. They don't need to think about making money from gambling because they can make money from working and that is more promising than gambling. Moreover, gambling will not guarantee that they can make money so they don't need to take bigger risks to gamble. Gambling for fun is something that can entertain them but they must be able to control themselves and not let them fall too deep into gambling just because they want to have more fun. If they exceed the limit in gambling, they not only lose their money but also have the potential to become addicted to gambling because that is a big problem that they must really avoid.

And if when playing gambling, they experience loss, they must be able to accept it because loss and win are part of gambling and will come and go. But these losses will come more often than gambling so they really have to be able to prevent more losses by immediately stopping their gambling activities. We have to maintain our expenses when playing gambling so that we don't have to run out of money when gambling. It is not worth continuing if we have already lost several times and only by stopping gambling can we prevent losing again.

yeah that is human nature and every person has it, but what makes it different from other people is how we control it. Double wager is always a tempting after you win very big and hope that you can make double it again. and also it comes when you lose so much double wager are comes to you and hope that you are going to win this time.

Just opinion after winning big we should probably started to think about withdrawal 

Indeed, it is human nature, but we can prevent it from becoming big by having good self-control. For this reason, we have to continuously practice it so that we are not easily tempted by what we see. Double betting is tempting because we can win a lot of money, but we also have to be aware of the risk of losing the money we can get so we will be careful in placing that bet. We also can't always win from gambling because defeat will come more often than we imagine.

Yes, we should indeed withdraw the winning money after we win to enjoy the winning money. Many gamblers forget to do this and instead continue gambling, but unfortunately, they lose, so all their money is gone.

[KiaKia]

For financial benefits I choose to learn crypto trading, Bitcoin holding and crypto mining, these are my field of source of income online, I don't do anything else online than this, and offline I run a business too, I believe these are more than enough for me, now someone like me can't start gambling looking forward to make big money from gambling.

Look at gambling, and try to define what it is, how did this fits as a source of income? It's not even reliable, the reason why people expect much from gambling is lack of income stream in their lives, they should work on that instead of believing so strong on gambling.

I fear for gambling problems, as I can see people close by that are affected by gambling, and the problem is money making from gambling, do not expect gambling to keep your bank account fatter, it's impossible to even think about it, you could get lucky but at the same time you could get burnt, it's highly not advisable.

[Getmon]

Gambling makes matches more fun and an opportunity for financial benefit. What is not fun however is wagering against your number one supported club and losing. We sometimes act against our feelings when we want more of the financial benefit. Wagering from all directions is acceptable. Because what makes the biggest difference is that we are wagering smartly.

For people intending to make betting a method of livelihood, do not do it. It is impossible to imagine surviving on luck alone. We are intelligent enough to even think about it.

[avp2306]

Gambling for financial gains will be a very big mistake because there is no guarantee of getting steady income from it, and a responsible person with financial obligations can not depend on gambling profit to make ends meet. Gambling should be for fun and whatever outcome that the bet gives must be accepted, because it's based on luck. We should never rely on something that it's earnings are based on luck for our main source of income, that'll be irresponsible act.

Yes, it's true because gambling will not give us a steady income, therefore don't ever expect more when playing gambling, just enjoy the game and don't think that it can boost our economy, after all gambling was not created to make gamblers financially rich, but was created for entertainment. For rich people, it's just that people from a lower middle class economy often try their luck by gambling and eventually they get carried away and become addicted to gambling.

Rich people will definitely consider gambling as a game of entertainment and having fun, that's why it's rare for lower middle class people to have fun in gambling because they only gamble for financial gain, so different economic classes will also have different goals for gambling, but many people are wrong. understand the meaning of why gambling should be fun because what is meant is the mindset that must be changed by considering gambling as a game for entertainment so that it is not focused on financial goals which makes us increasingly out of control, if we have fun gambling we will not be too careless in playing responsibly.

They should never look at it as a main source of income since nothing we can ask for more from gambling and we know that huge risk will always came to us so there's high risk of losing. If we believe to much that we win or hope for something big for it maybe we will just get frustrated since for sure that what we expect might now come since it may give us different result.

That's why just like other suggestion that people should aim to have fun so that they will not stressed out theirself for looking for more gains. Gambling supposed to be for entertainment but some other have different thoughts since they think gambling is easy for them to get those easy richest that's why they fail on what they expect from this activity.

[Jody.Drummer]

That's how it should be since losing is inevitable. Therefore we must be prepared for this kind of scenario. If a gambler can't handle such situation because of the high hopes to double his wager, then his main desire is not to really have fun but to gain. It's a human nature to feel sad when we experience to lose but it's already a given situation that we should keep in mind before playing. Thus if you can't bear losing your money in gambling then don't force yourself to play to avoid having gambling problems.

Yes, winning can give us happiness, especially if the win is big. We want to get another big win and because of that, we will be lured back into continuing gambling even though we might not get as lucky as before. We will become greedy because we want an even bigger win so we are willing to sacrifice the winnings we have earned to get another big win. And at that moment, we will see that the big win will not always come after we win because it will also depend on our luck. If we are lucky, we can get that big win, but if not, we will only lose money, which could even take away all the money we have won. That's why we must be wise and know what we must do after winning. And it's better for us to immediately end the gambling game after getting a big win to enjoy the winnings and celebrate with our friends or family.

yeah that is human nature and every person has it, but what makes it different from other people is how we control it. Double wager is always a tempting after you win very big and hope that you can make double it again. and also it comes when you lose so much double wager are comes to you and hope that you are going to win this time.

Just opinion after winning big we should probably started to think about withdrawal 

All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.

[dansus021]

All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

[len01]

All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

emotional, greedy, overconfident are common traits that often dominate a gambler's mind and take over his mind and lose control to continue betting with the assumption that he will win big again.
anyone will experience the same thing when a gambler gets a big win it is very rare for a gambler to get a big win and then stop and withdraw his money, that is very rare and usually they will definitely keep betting at least 3 to 4 times to see if there is a lucky streak.

It's hard to stop when you win, but if you can do it I think you have very disciplined principles and usually have limits in betting so that you firmly decide to stop betting when you win and leave gambling for a moment to enjoy the winnings.
this is fun gambling that should be used happily and when we win we should stop and enjoy the winnings and come back again after we have more money.

[Jody.Drummer]

All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

Yes, it is a situation that most gamblers are fooled by their own feelings, they always prioritize satisfaction and one of them is like doing all this again even though basically they have managed to get a win, even though on the other hand the possibility of defeat will continue to exist and lurk them in every situation and condition so that this is the reason or cause why in the end you experience defeat in the sense that all the results at the end of the session do not match what you expected.

So this is the importance of maintaining awareness when you are gambling, the fact is that even if you manage to get a win but on the other hand it is not a really good situation for you if you basically have not succeeded or have not agreed with yourself to cash out, as I said earlier because it is not easy to ignore greed when a gambler is in such a situation. The main point and what can be a solution is that you must be able to apply firmness to consciousness when you are gambling, because with a good level of consciousness then when you manage to get a win you will be able to decide to cash out because you remember that the possibility of losing is still very possible.

[maydna]

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

Not only occasionally, but these emotions will appear more often along with the results you get from gambling so that you may become even more eager to get a bigger win if you win. These emotions will also appear when you lose because you want to recover your losses so that you will continue your gambling activities. Many people will decide to bet all in, saying this is the last time I am going home. But because they have become emotional, they cannot think clearly and try to follow their emotions, so they decide to place an all-in bet. But the result is predictable. They experience loss and lose all their money in an instant, so they have to go home feeling very disappointed and frustrated.

[Jody.Drummer]

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

Not only occasionally, but these emotions will appear more often along with the results you get from gambling so that you may become even more eager to get a bigger win if you win. These emotions will also appear when you lose because you want to recover your losses so that you will continue your gambling activities. Many people will decide to bet all in, saying this is the last time I am going home. But because they have become emotional, they cannot think clearly and try to follow their emotions, so they decide to place an all-in bet. But the result is predictable. They experience loss and lose all their money in an instant, so they have to go home feeling very disappointed and frustrated.

In conclusion, emotions can really play a role in both winning and losing situations, and when you are in a winning situation then emotions will be the impetus for you to apply greed with the aim of getting a much bigger win despite the fact that it is not that simple and easy. And on the other hand what happens more often is that emotions will dominate when you are in a situation where you are really far from luck or in the sense of losing quite often, and obviously the inability to accept defeat makes you end up with emotions and in the end as you said that they will try to chase defeat to restore something that has been lost.

But the journey will not be as smooth as they imagine which in the end obviously you have also said that they end up in a much worse situation. This is the impact if you or anyone gambles with the hope of winning, so it is always recommended to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the result at the end of the session, and you can be a responsible gambler if you are able to understand the concept of gambling that everything there is nothing more than a "possibility" of winning or losing.

[maydna]

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In conclusion, emotions can really play a role in both winning and losing situations, and when you are in a winning situation then emotions will be the impetus for you to apply greed with the aim of getting a much bigger win despite the fact that it is not that simple and easy. And on the other hand what happens more often is that emotions will dominate when you are in a situation where you are really far from luck or in the sense of losing quite often, and obviously the inability to accept defeat makes you end up with emotions and in the end as you said that they will try to chase defeat to restore something that has been lost.

But the journey will not be as smooth as they imagine which in the end obviously you have also said that they end up in a much worse situation. This is the impact if you or anyone gambles with the hope of winning, so it is always recommended to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the result at the end of the session, and you can be a responsible gambler if you are able to understand the concept of gambling that everything there is nothing more than a "possibility" of winning or losing.

That's why we have to manage our emotions well so that we don't lose self-control, which will have bad consequences for us. If we continue gambling, we will only experience loss. Even though we can win, it is still not worth it if we lose a lot of money, which could waste our winnings because of greed, which tells us to continue gambling. We also need to learn to be calm whatever the situation and conditions we face so that we react accordingly. But it takes time to manage emotions well so that they don't cause us harm and we shouldn't give up if we can't control our emotions and keep learning.

By continuing to learn, we will become responsible gamblers because we don't want to experience more and more losses, let alone spend all the money we have. We know many real examples of gamblers and even those in our environment, so we don't need to be gamblers like that. And if we don't want to experience loss or lose money, we can look for other activities to get different pleasures from gambling so that we don't have to experience loss. If we still choose gambling, we must be able to really limit our gambling activities and not let it harm us by losing a lot of money.

[Samlucky O]

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

No body plays gamble for fun. rather play to try luck if it will be a means to financial end. And the Quest to achieve this task has been an endless journey. Because people who came with the intention to play this game and cashout out has turn to a regular customer of loosing fund to casino sites. Some have sold all there belonging to make sure they could win and yet they couldn't win as expected. Some people who never took gambling serious  were able to win big what am ironic situation.

The amount I can invest that will make gambling to become more emotional to me, is $20 and above. because it's a big amount of money. despite it is a peanut money to some people, because I know what that amount could afford In my country.