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February 07, 2024, 02:41:24 PM
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Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 
Not only occasionally, but these emotions will appear more often along with the results you get from gambling so that you may become even more eager to get a bigger win if you win. These emotions will also appear when you lose because you want to recover your losses so that you will continue your gambling activities. Many people will decide to bet all in, saying this is the last time I am going home. But because they have become emotional, they cannot think clearly and try to follow their emotions, so they decide to place an all-in bet. But the result is predictable. They experience loss and lose all their money in an instant, so they have to go home feeling very disappointed and frustrated.
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February 08, 2024, 01:05:31 AM
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Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 
Not only occasionally, but these emotions will appear more often along with the results you get from gambling so that you may become even more eager to get a bigger win if you win. These emotions will also appear when you lose because you want to recover your losses so that you will continue your gambling activities. Many people will decide to bet all in, saying this is the last time I am going home. But because they have become emotional, they cannot think clearly and try to follow their emotions, so they decide to place an all-in bet. But the result is predictable. They experience loss and lose all their money in an instant, so they have to go home feeling very disappointed and frustrated.

In conclusion, emotions can really play a role in both winning and losing situations, and when you are in a winning situation then emotions will be the impetus for you to apply greed with the aim of getting a much bigger win despite the fact that it is not that simple and easy. And on the other hand what happens more often is that emotions will dominate when you are in a situation where you are really far from luck or in the sense of losing quite often, and obviously the inability to accept defeat makes you end up with emotions and in the end as you said that they will try to chase defeat to restore something that has been lost.

But the journey will not be as smooth as they imagine which in the end obviously you have also said that they end up in a much worse situation. This is the impact if you or anyone gambles with the hope of winning, so it is always recommended to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the result at the end of the session, and you can be a responsible gambler if you are able to understand the concept of gambling that everything there is nothing more than a "possibility" of winning or losing.

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February 08, 2024, 03:41:57 PM
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In conclusion, emotions can really play a role in both winning and losing situations, and when you are in a winning situation then emotions will be the impetus for you to apply greed with the aim of getting a much bigger win despite the fact that it is not that simple and easy. And on the other hand what happens more often is that emotions will dominate when you are in a situation where you are really far from luck or in the sense of losing quite often, and obviously the inability to accept defeat makes you end up with emotions and in the end as you said that they will try to chase defeat to restore something that has been lost.

But the journey will not be as smooth as they imagine which in the end obviously you have also said that they end up in a much worse situation. This is the impact if you or anyone gambles with the hope of winning, so it is always recommended to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the result at the end of the session, and you can be a responsible gambler if you are able to understand the concept of gambling that everything there is nothing more than a "possibility" of winning or losing.
That's why we have to manage our emotions well so that we don't lose self-control, which will have bad consequences for us. If we continue gambling, we will only experience loss. Even though we can win, it is still not worth it if we lose a lot of money, which could waste our winnings because of greed, which tells us to continue gambling. We also need to learn to be calm whatever the situation and conditions we face so that we react accordingly. But it takes time to manage emotions well so that they don't cause us harm and we shouldn't give up if we can't control our emotions and keep learning.

By continuing to learn, we will become responsible gamblers because we don't want to experience more and more losses, let alone spend all the money we have. We know many real examples of gamblers and even those in our environment, so we don't need to be gamblers like that. And if we don't want to experience loss or lose money, we can look for other activities to get different pleasures from gambling so that we don't have to experience loss. If we still choose gambling, we must be able to really limit our gambling activities and not let it harm us by losing a lot of money.
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February 08, 2024, 03:56:23 PM
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Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
No body plays gamble for fun. rather play to try luck if it will be a means to financial end. And the Quest to achieve this task has been an endless journey. Because people who came with the intention to play this game and cashout out has turn to a regular customer of loosing fund to casino sites. Some have sold all there belonging to make sure they could win and yet they couldn't win as expected. Some people who never took gambling serious  were able to win big what am ironic situation.

The amount I can invest that will make gambling to become more emotional to me, is $20 and above. because it's a big amount of money. despite it is a peanut money to some people, because I know what that amount could afford In my country.

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February 08, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
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What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

This is not just in your neighborhood, it's a general thing that everyone does but we don't want to accept the idea that we all do gambling to make money. If I want to have fun, club is the right place I will want to hangout with some couple of friends or make a get together in any garden during weekends, these are remarkable things that are more fun to me because each time I remember the fun of it, it gives goose bumps and sweet memories.

Gambling has its own fun but I only get that in a single bets. You can't tell me that you have a multiple bet with 21 games that are waiting to be played with a little money and you called that a fun, it might be in some extent but the outcome is what many people are after and not what they called fun in actual sense. The motivation behind gambling is money and after that, the next motivation is money.

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February 08, 2024, 04:14:33 PM
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And also the gambler will become greedy and don't stop playing even though their money is enough for their needs but still they will get some of it and play for their wants without knowing that they will loss a lot of money.
The biggest mistake is to gamble to get gains so that you can spend the money on your needs because gambling is not a source of income and those who consider it one will have to face the negative consequences of it. Something where getting something depends on your luck cannot be considered a way for you to have a guaranteed income, and gambling is exactly that, whether you will win or lose depends on how lucky or unlucky you are.

So, people who gamble with money that they need only because they expect to win more money with it are always going to suffer because even if they manage to win something initially, there will be a time when they will lose everything while trying to win more and then they will regret their actions.
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February 08, 2024, 04:17:32 PM
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No body plays gamble for fun. rather play to try luck if it will be a means to financial end. And the Quest to achieve this task has been an endless journey. Because people who came with the intention to play this game and cashout out has turn to a regular customer of loosing fund to casino sites. Some have sold all there belonging to make sure they could win and yet they couldn't win as expected. Some people who never took gambling serious  were able to win big what am ironic situation.

The amount I can invest that will make gambling to become more emotional to me, is $20 and above. because it's a big amount of money. despite it is a peanut money to some people, because I know what that amount could afford In my country.

For gamblers who cannot control themselves to stop gambling if the set limit runs out due to their losses, then this gambler will not be able to gamble for fun. However, for those who can be disciplined, they consider gambling as a place to find his luck with a minimum deposit and never exceed the limit of money that they think is worth for gambling, maybe he can find the fun side of the gambling. I think gamblers like this not just thinking about doubling their money and winnings. But, they are trying to entertain him self with his money to gamble and have fun with that.

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February 08, 2024, 10:43:25 PM
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I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
I mean, there's definitely a discussion to be had regarding this topic, and as someone who strictly plays for fun (although of course I still find joy and excitement from earning money while gambling) I think I have a good say about this issue.

There's a fine line between "earning money while gambling" and "gambling to earn money". In my opinion the latter is dangerous as it eventually subjects the user/the gambler into a situation and a downwards spiral that leads them into revenge gambling and eventually, gambling addiction. After all, they make earning money the whole point of their gambling session, and if they couldn't earn the dollars that they are looking for on the first try, they'll try and try until they lose all their bankroll within the day. It's quite stupid and it's fast-acting too.

Now, what I'm really advocating for is to find ways to still have fun even when you're not earning money while gambling. Set entertainment as the primary directive of your gambling and make earning money in the process as nothing but a nice bonus that you can get every now and again. If you're successful with this you're going to still have fun and enjoy yourself even while losing, eventually making sure that even in red days you got your bankroll secured, and you're beyond and arm's reach of gambling addiction.

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February 08, 2024, 10:55:10 PM
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The biggest mistake is to gamble to get gains so that you can spend the money on your needs because gambling is not a source of income and those who consider it one will have to face the negative consequences of it. Something where getting something depends on your luck cannot be considered a way for you to have a guaranteed income, and gambling is exactly that, whether you will win or lose depends on how lucky or unlucky you are.

So, people who gamble with money that they need only because they expect to win more money with it are always going to suffer because even if they manage to win something initially, there will be a time when they will lose everything while trying to win more and then they will regret their actions.

The gambler who loss the funds  in the gambling site will willing to gain the entire money in the same gambling based on your game.But many gamblers not worry about the loss because of the targeting of the gambling loss by their free time.The gambler also does not worry about the negative impact because of the further long in the gambling site.The gambler thought the gambling site will give the guarantee income.But the result of gambling site was unpredictable one.So the lucky one alone use the gambling site for their steady income,many not understanding the real money used in the gambling site.The gamblers who have strong interest can make money.
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February 08, 2024, 11:00:14 PM
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They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

The presumption of fun varies a lot from one person to another, even for those who really like football, for example, may not find it very fun to bet on a time and lose money.

I confess that betting in casinos, roulette, dice, cards and the like can be much more fun than betting on sports games.

In any case, I believe that the fun of this type of bet is in the emotion and expectation of the result, and in this case online betting can deliver more "adrenaline" and fun for the bettor.

I agree with you... there are other more interesting ways to have fun while spending less money, but it is also possible to have fun with sports betting, it's just a matter of personal preferences.

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February 08, 2024, 11:15:24 PM
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I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

I prefer gambling for fun because at first I only bet small, what I can afford to lose. secondly, I don't gamble often, I don't gamble every day because I know that there is a big chance that I will become addicted to gambling if you gamble every day and of course if you gamble every day your money will run out quickly. Gambling is because I consider it a game, not a source of income, so in every gambling game I enjoy even if I lose, but that's really included. Even with online games, I spend money, so it doesn't matter to me because I just think that is the payment for the happiness that gambling brought me at that time.

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February 08, 2024, 11:27:18 PM
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And also the gambler will become greedy and don't stop playing even though their money is enough for their needs but still they will get some of it and play for their wants without knowing that they will loss a lot of money.
The biggest mistake is to gamble to get gains so that you can spend the money on your needs because gambling is not a source of income and those who consider it one will have to face the negative consequences of it. Something where getting something depends on your luck cannot be considered a way for you to have a guaranteed income, and gambling is exactly that, whether you will win or lose depends on how lucky or unlucky you are.

So, people who gamble with money that they need only because they expect to win more money with it are always going to suffer because even if they manage to win something initially, there will be a time when they will lose everything while trying to win more and then they will regret their actions.
Judging by the recent happenings in the gambling community, it's obvious that most people gamble for financial benefits instead of the fun in gambling and I totally understand their reasons as most gamblers people who are frustrated by the economic hardship and decided to gamble just to make ends meet.

I don't gamble for financial benefits rather I gamble for fun and that's why I rarely gamble because when you gamble for fun, you only gamble when you just wanna experience the fun but when you gamble for financial benefits, the chances of becoming an addict is high as most of your gambling engagements are primarily for the purpose of making profits from gambling

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February 08, 2024, 11:39:13 PM
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And also the gambler will become greedy and don't stop playing even though their money is enough for their needs but still they will get some of it and play for their wants without knowing that they will loss a lot of money.
The biggest mistake is to gamble to get gains so that you can spend the money on your needs because gambling is not a source of income and those who consider it one will have to face the negative consequences of it. Something where getting something depends on your luck cannot be considered a way for you to have a guaranteed income, and gambling is exactly that, whether you will win or lose depends on how lucky or unlucky you are.

So, people who gamble with money that they need only because they expect to win more money with it are always going to suffer because even if they manage to win something initially, there will be a time when they will lose everything while trying to win more and then they will regret their actions.
Judging by the recent happenings in the gambling community, it's obvious that most people gamble for financial benefits instead of the fun in gambling and I totally understand their reasons as most gamblers people who are frustrated by the economic hardship and decided to gamble just to make ends meet.

I don't gamble for financial benefits rather I gamble for fun and that's why I rarely gamble because when you gamble for fun, you only gamble when you just wanna experience the fun but when you gamble for financial benefits, the chances of becoming an addict is high as most of your gambling engagements are primarily for the purpose of making profits from gambling
Even just simply just basing on the behavior then you could really say that people do really come after for the money and not for the fun.Only a few could really be having that kind of approach on things on which they do really believe that making money with gambling is really just that easy or something that it is really that easy to obtain but once they do face up the reality then this is something that they would really be making out those realizations that its never been that possible that you could really be able to make constant wins and money with gambling. It is really just that impossible that there are people who would really be that just purely playing for the sake of fun but rather we would really be longing for the money that we could possibly make.
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February 08, 2024, 11:48:41 PM
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No body plays gamble for fun. rather play to try luck if it will be a means to financial end. And the Quest to achieve this task has been an endless journey. Because people who came with the intention to play this game and cashout out has turn to a regular customer of loosing fund to casino sites. Some have sold all there belonging to make sure they could win and yet they couldn't win as expected. Some people who never took gambling serious  were able to win big what am ironic situation.

The amount I can invest that will make gambling to become more emotional to me, is $20 and above. because it's a big amount of money. despite it is a peanut money to some people, because I know what that amount could afford In my country.

For gamblers who cannot control themselves to stop gambling if the set limit runs out due to their losses, then this gambler will not be able to gamble for fun. However, for those who can be disciplined, they consider gambling as a place to find his luck with a minimum deposit and never exceed the limit of money that they think is worth for gambling, maybe he can find the fun side of the gambling. I think gamblers like this not just thinking about doubling their money and winnings. But, they are trying to entertain him self with his money to gamble and have fun with that.

Gamblers have multiple reasons for their activities, and it also includes fun. Not everyone is there for the money. But, on a bit of it, the gamblers also require money to gamble. So, one way or another the gambler would want to win money. Yet it doesn't mean it's his priority. Whether there is a win or not, the fun gambler doesn't care. Those who gamble for money, most of the time, don't find themselves happy if they don't find themselves some wins. The struggle gets worse if he desperately goes for those wins. Which could affect his gambling habit, and lead to compulsive gambling. Such things as this makes the player to regret his gambling habit, becuase he can lose out all his money on the process. So, it's not that the fun gamblers don't want to play for money, no. They also need money to creep in, but they're not worried over if it arrives or not. Thereby, keeping clean their mental and emotional confidence. Less worries.

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February 08, 2024, 11:59:11 PM
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I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

I prefer gambling for fun because at first I only bet small, what I can afford to lose. secondly, I don't gamble often, I don't gamble every day because I know that there is a big chance that I will become addicted to gambling if you gamble every day and of course if you gamble every day your money will run out quickly. Gambling is because I consider it a game, not a source of income, so in every gambling game I enjoy even if I lose, but that's really included. Even with online games, I spend money, so it doesn't matter to me because I just think that is the payment for the happiness that gambling brought me at that time.
At least you already know that gambling will indeed have the potential to lose all the capital you use, but there is also a chance of making a lot of profit when you are lucky when gambling, which means that in gambling places there is no guarantee of winning. In my opinion, online games and gambling Of course, there are different descriptions due to consideration of the existing risks.

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For gamblers who cannot control themselves to stop gambling if the set limit runs out due to their losses, then this gambler will not be able to gamble for fun. However, for those who can be disciplined, they consider gambling as a place to find his luck with a minimum deposit and never exceed the limit of money that they think is worth for gambling, maybe he can find the fun side of the gambling. I think gamblers like this not just thinking about doubling their money and winnings. But, they are trying to entertain him self with his money to gamble and have fun with that.
Some Gamblers play games out of their initial time set limits. Because of panic and playing out of emotions and it's a bad one. We can not undermine the fact that Gamblers are of different categories which has their gambling perttern. For the aspect of fun, to me the only fun I see in game is when you play games like PS4 with your friend at home or playing draft or snooker games with competition that you will win a friend whom you are playing the game with. Apart from that, I don't see much fun in gambling because whatever money is involved, there is always a seriousness Attached to it and one might easily be prococated in an instance or a slight misconception. So to me gambling is a try and error attempt to make money but fun in game is when you play games with people without staking money.

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February 09, 2024, 09:43:03 AM
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At least you already know that gambling will indeed have the potential to lose all the capital you use, but there is also a chance of making a lot of profit when you are lucky when gambling, which means that in gambling places there is no guarantee of winning. In my opinion, online games and gambling Of course, there are different descriptions due to consideration of the existing risks.
If people could control themselves when they gambled, they would not have the potential to lose all their capital because they would always be careful in spending their money. They will not easily continue their gambling game if they have experienced several defeats and will choose to stop gambling. Online games and gambling do have different descriptions. But both can give the same addiction or maybe it can be worse than online games because I heard a story of a child who had used up his savings and could even access his parents' credit card to buy items from his online games. This is certainly very sad when we know that there are children who can do it.

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February 09, 2024, 11:05:50 AM
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Gambling can never be a means to financial ends, even the lucky ones have to use the chance they get to establish themselves or else they will remain a gambler with no money for life, most gamblers do win, but they are not satisfied, many of them have a goal, a million dollars,  or 500k and they won't stop until this goal becomes a reality.

Little do they know that gambling is a wrong source for pursuing your dreams, you are better off doing something else to achieve your dreams, and I don't see any other ways than investing some money, improve your skills to be able to earn more money, the higher your income is the better your investment will be.

If you are gambling for financial reasons you could get lucky, but don't count on getting lucky, also if you end up getting lucky, don't have the mind that you are good at gambling, you just get lucky is all, use the money to your own advantage.

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February 09, 2024, 11:18:55 AM
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In conclusion, emotions can really play a role in both winning and losing situations, and when you are in a winning situation then emotions will be the impetus for you to apply greed with the aim of getting a much bigger win despite the fact that it is not that simple and easy. And on the other hand what happens more often is that emotions will dominate when you are in a situation where you are really far from luck or in the sense of losing quite often, and obviously the inability to accept defeat makes you end up with emotions and in the end as you said that they will try to chase defeat to restore something that has been lost.

But the journey will not be as smooth as they imagine which in the end obviously you have also said that they end up in a much worse situation. This is the impact if you or anyone gambles with the hope of winning, so it is always recommended to be a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the result at the end of the session, and you can be a responsible gambler if you are able to understand the concept of gambling that everything there is nothing more than a "possibility" of winning or losing.
That's why we have to manage our emotions well so that we don't lose self-control, which will have bad consequences for us. If we continue gambling, we will only experience loss. Even though we can win, it is still not worth it if we lose a lot of money, which could waste our winnings because of greed, which tells us to continue gambling. We also need to learn to be calm whatever the situation and conditions we face so that we react accordingly. But it takes time to manage emotions well so that they don't cause us harm and we shouldn't give up if we can't control our emotions and keep learning.

By continuing to learn, we will become responsible gamblers because we don't want to experience more and more losses, let alone spend all the money we have. We know many real examples of gamblers and even those in our environment, so we don't need to be gamblers like that. And if we don't want to experience loss or lose money, we can look for other activities to get different pleasures from gambling so that we don't have to experience loss. If we still choose gambling, we must be able to really limit our gambling activities and not let it harm us by losing a lot of money.

Yes, it is true because only self-control is able to minimize the number of big defeats or what it means is that by having good self-control and control then indirectly this will be very useful to minimize the possibility of losing large amounts, because obviously when emotions dominate then it is very difficult to ignore some actions out of control because you are in a hot situation due to a defeat that you cannot accept. I understand that even in a state of emotion you can get a win that may be quite large but the problem is that yes as you said that they will definitely put that amount of money back for a much bigger win, the point is that there is no limit here except when they run out of all their money.

Yes we can make other people's bad experiences as learning material, especially learning what people who are addicted do so that it makes them experience a lot of problems and one that has become a common mistake is that they gamble excessively and that means we really have to avoid things that can ultimately make us fall into the abyss, the point is that in my opinion we must have limits in gambling and the right understanding.

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February 09, 2024, 01:11:37 PM
 #260

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Yes, it is true because only self-control is able to minimize the number of big defeats or what it means is that by having good self-control and control then indirectly this will be very useful to minimize the possibility of losing large amounts, because obviously when emotions dominate then it is very difficult to ignore some actions out of control because you are in a hot situation due to a defeat that you cannot accept. I understand that even in a state of emotion you can get a win that may be quite large but the problem is that yes as you said that they will definitely put that amount of money back for a much bigger win, the point is that there is no limit here except when they run out of all their money.

Yes we can make other people's bad experiences as learning material, especially learning what people who are addicted do so that it makes them experience a lot of problems and one that has become a common mistake is that they gamble excessively and that means we really have to avoid things that can ultimately make us fall into the abyss, the point is that in my opinion we must have limits in gambling and the right understanding.
With this self-control, they can reduce the number of losses and will not try to gamble beyond their limits. They will always be careful when playing gambling, including spending money to place bets, and maybe they will try to always use bets with small money and always limit their gambling games. By implementing these restrictions, they can avoid losing a lot so that they don't get involved in any problems and can enjoy gambling as they should. They also will not experience a significant increase in emotions because, with self-control, they can maintain a balance between getting pleasure from gambling and also using gambling as entertainment.

Learning from other people's experiences can give us insight and open our eyes in gambling, we have to be really careful because there are many temptations that we will encounter, so by studying other people's experiences, we can avoid making mistakes. By always being careful when playing gambling, we can become responsible gamblers who know how to respond to gambling so that we don't fall deeper into gambling.
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