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January 27, 2024, 06:26:56 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
no offence but what you wrote sounds like it was just made up(especially the highlighted part). do you have any source/article for this? if so, would you mind sharing it, I'd like to read it.

addiction is an obsessive/compulsive behaviour, meaning if someone is addicted whatever they are addicted to will take priority. no matter how successful they are, their addiction will always negatively affect their life in some way.

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January 27, 2024, 06:34:17 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
If it doesn't affect their routine at all, they aren't gambling addicted, then. One of the main characteristics of addiction is the disfunctionality it provokes on the life of the individual. It's the social, financial, moral and emotional prejudices caused to his life which characterizes an addiction. Since you hypothetically mentioned they are still able to care their families, fulfill their compromises and responsabilities and keep a healthy life, gambling is just a minor part of their day. Therefore, I don't think they would feel any urges to gamble, because if they were, how could they do all the good things you mentioned?

It would be impossible, because let's say they felt an urge to gamble right before the work time. It would prejudice their professional careers. Or let's say the urge to gamble came when they had to take kids to school. Then, it would forbid them from caring their families. So 'urge to gamble' is incompatible with the scenario you described in your post. Urge to gamble will always affect their lives negatively and won't allow them to have a functional routine.

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January 27, 2024, 06:52:00 PM
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Addiction to something means that you can leave everything but you cannot leave that thing for which you are addicted therefore if someone continues his gambling and still his life is happy then it means that he is not addicted but he is gambling just for fun. I think addiction is bad whether its a good or bad because for what you have addicted if you cannot find access towards it then it will become hard for you to bear its unavailability.

Gambling is a bad addiction which surely will have some bad effects on your life as well as on your family's life because the happiness of your family is linked with your happiness so if you are aggressively asking about money for gambling to your family then there is a problem of bad addiction of gambling which should be avoided and gambling should be stopped if it effect you and your family badly.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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January 27, 2024, 06:56:07 PM
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What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford


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January 27, 2024, 06:56:21 PM
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Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. And when someone experiences a gambling addiction, they can be sure that their condition is very bad. Individuals who are addicted to gambling cannot realize that the behavior they carry out in gambling is very detrimental to them, and they often justify their bad behavior when someone tries to advise and make them aware. And that is what causes the problem of gambling addiction to become so complex.

And an individual can be said to experience a feeling of addiction to gambling, where they are no longer able to control their gambling activities properly, which ultimately causes loss and regret. And the loss I mean is not only in financial terms, but also in terms of time. Someone who is addicted to gambling tends to prioritize their gambling activities over other activities, where they often miss very important moments for the sake of gambling. A gambling addict will only realize it when he has lost everything and no one else cares enough about him.

Before that happens in our lives, if you like gambling, then control this activity as best as possible, and try to continue to minimize losses and negative impacts from gambling. because prevention is better than cure.

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What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford
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The only problem on here is that on the time that you are already compromising important funds then you are already doing the wrong thing .
Addiction does pertain about doing things excessively specially that you are already playing that much towards it and spending it more and spending more time.
As long you are that in track with your finances and having no excessive spending then you are just fine.

On the time that you are spending way above those limits and budget then this is something that you would really be needing to adjust
because if you wont then this is where disaster do starts.
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January 27, 2024, 07:11:34 PM
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If it doesn't affect his life I don't think it's an addiction. Addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something.
Usually this refers to excessive liking and is driven by a strong desire or passion for one thing. A person who is addicted will usually have no control over what he does, consumes, or uses.
If he can still control his life over gambling, it means it is just a hobby or just fun. Because he understands when it's time to gamble, when it's time for him to stop playing and do activities outside of gambling.

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January 27, 2024, 09:43:09 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

I think the thing is that, most dont actually know they are addicted to gambling until it becomes a problem, like this scenario you gave that, someone might find it hard to stay away from gambling, so, he or she is spending alot on gambling, but is still very comfortably managing his finances, as well as also taking care of his or her family the very way he or she should, so, to him or her, or for such a person, he or she may not even know that he or she is addicted to gambling, the family as well may not know that their benefactor is addicted to gambling, and this is because, the income of such family is way way above the amount of money that person is spending on gambling.

So, for most, they usually will not know that they are addicted to gambling, for they may see their urge to gamble as something natural and based on their love for gambling.

But such persons can only indeed confirm their true addiction to gambling when things become hard, when he or she is required to cut out all unnecessary expenses, which includes that he or she stop gambling for that main time, this is when he or she will know that.he or she is addicted to gambling, because by now, he or she will discover that he or she is unable to stop, even when he himself really wants to, he sees himself going back to gambling over and over again..
Fact also is that, problems can come regardless if you are an addicts or not, as far as you engage in risky ventures like gambling, it becomes easy to to encounter problem's along the line, this is because many times it will always happen when you are at your lowest level, and that is when it becomes clear that actually regardless of wether or not you are an addicts, it can still rob up on you to the point that you face alot of reap life problem's.


But then also, addictions could also be controlled and estimated to be, worst if only it becomes problematic, and it can only become problematic when you take the mistakes to a repeated level that os repeating same mistakes all the time.
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January 27, 2024, 10:06:04 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
Well, I've said it many times in my replies on the forum, there are both positive and negative addictions, and if the one you are facing is positive, you are good to go. Positive addictions is harmless to the person as it doesn't have issues with their living, they make money from it if it is what involves money like gambling, only that they are engrossed with it and can't leave it. Even the money-making involvement is enough reason for such to be addicted to it, after all, we all need money and financial freedom, so if someone is now making money consistently in gambling, do you expect the person to leave it? I guess not. This is even as the money can be used to fix a lot and even invest it better elsewhere as an additional advantage.

This, of course, can't cause the person to err in his responsibility among others, so he has nothing to lose or be afraid of and such will even live his life as if the gambling addiction is not there but just doing what he likes or/and that fetches him money. But for the negative addiction, that is where the issue lies, this will, of course, be problematic for the person and will force such to be irresponsible with all sorts of bad deeds, which is why people often call it out and make gambling looks like total evil, but are often silent about the positive addiction since it doesn't subtract from the person's life.

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January 27, 2024, 10:18:05 PM
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Gambling addiction is a very complex problem. And when someone experiences a gambling addiction, they can be sure that their condition is very bad. Individuals who are addicted to gambling cannot realize that the behavior they carry out in gambling is very detrimental to them, and they often justify their bad behavior when someone tries to advise and make them aware. And that is what causes the problem of gambling addiction to become so complex.

And an individual can be said to experience a feeling of addiction to gambling, where they are no longer able to control their gambling activities properly, which ultimately causes loss and regret. And the loss I mean is not only in financial terms, but also in terms of time. Someone who is addicted to gambling tends to prioritize their gambling activities over other activities, where they often miss very important moments for the sake of gambling. A gambling addict will only realize it when he has lost everything and no one else cares enough about him.

Before that happens in our lives, if you like gambling, then control this activity as best as possible, and try to continue to minimize losses and negative impacts from gambling. because prevention is better than cure.

just like any other vices, a person who is addicted to gambling most of the time won't listen to what you have to say. but if you encounter a gambling addict who still knows the reality of things, then i would say, he can still contain his gambling impulses and you can still reason out with him. but unluckily, most addicts have destructive behaviour, not only for themselves but to his immediately family as well.

What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford

based from this definition  Gambling addiction - healthdirect

"People with a gambling addiction can't control their urge to gamble, even if they are losing a lot of money. They are willing to risk something of value in the hope that the reward will be more valuable."

so it means, even if you can afford to gamble and lose a lot, you can still be tagged as addict if you can't contain yourself when it comes to gambling.

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January 27, 2024, 10:25:30 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Addiction is always frown at when it is affecting other aspects of your life and so with that people will always ring the bell that you are addicted to that thing and that is why other things in the person's life is suffering. For example if you are a contractor and you need to make a quotation for a job but instead of doing that you are busy gambling and at the end of the day you lose the contract either because you submitted it late or you didn't at all and someone's quotation was considered .

Yes generally success has plenty followership than failure, so those people who are addicted but always win huge will be considered as a gambler who knows what they are doing and balance themselves against the gamblers who are losers . If you are losing, then you can be regarded as addict since you can't cover other activities.

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January 27, 2024, 10:57:02 PM
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What you are saying I don't think that's call addicted they are affording the amount may by that they can gambling daily I mean regular. So I don't think there is any crime or bad think if he can afford the money and the gambling can't effect his family or life. If the gambling effect on his family or in his life then I will say he is a addicted gambler. Rather than I won't gonna say anyone addicted gambler for gambling regularly beyond with his afford
If things are still tolerable then that won't count to addiction. As others have said, addiction will be always a negative thing to suffer from. Addiction especially with gambling will never be an easy experience and it will always be a problem. I have a friend who was clinically diagnosed with addiction. He came to a point that he sold his car to pay his debt and the next day he went again to the casino to play with the excess money he had over his car. Fortunately his sister knew what happened and she's the one to have him checked. It took him more than  year fully recover and be away of gambling. This right here, is just a single instance which displays addiction. No gambler can afford losing any amount 'cos it is reasonable for us to hope for a big time win.

Again, no form of addiction will not be a problem to anyone. The bigger its consequence wherein in this topic, the larger the problem is. As we all know many people died from their own hands simply 'cos they cannot control the drive and how things are falling in their surroundings just because of their obsession. If you are concerned then have it checked already as early as possible to avoid worse things to take place before you notice.

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January 27, 2024, 11:15:25 PM
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If it doesn't affect his life I don't think it's an addiction. Addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something.
Usually this refers to excessive liking and is driven by a strong desire or passion for one thing. A person who is addicted will usually have no control over what he does, consumes, or uses.
If he can still control his life over gambling, it means it is just a hobby or just fun. Because he understands when it's time to gamble, when it's time for him to stop playing and do activities outside of gambling.
Until it becomes uncontrollable and what such person is yet to be classified as addicted because such person on their own can still control the events of such habits around them, addiction is worse more that as it was described by OP in some cases such person results to seeking professional help

Revisiting what is fun to you and you find as  your hobby is it addiction yet but one should be mindful of such hobby that have such a strong urge on you because it can gradually turn in to addiction at the point when you no longer have control over it and find yourself trying so hard by all means to satisfying such urge for a particular hobby especially one which involves money like gambling dose , then it's important to become mindful of it and not letting it getting a better part of you before you make moves to fixing it.

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January 27, 2024, 11:19:53 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

Addiction is a problem through and through, it's not something that you experience for it to be a problem eventually. You don't render diseases as something you can just disregard until it actually kills you, so why do you think of addiction as something that's not gonna do any effect upon the afflicted until they have ruined their lives irreparably?

If you're talking about those who are able to lead lives while still getting the impulse to gamble and are actively acting upon it with no hesitation, then I got news for you, they are already digging their own graves and if no action was taken to prevent them from going off deeper into the abyss that is gambling addiction, then the problems you're talking about is going to manifest and become more apparent. Which is why people should always stop gambling immediately soon as they feel like they are doing something they shouldn't do. Cause once you lose yourself in the game it's going to be even harder to come back.
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January 27, 2024, 11:24:20 PM
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If you could afford to gamble but spend too much time that could be considered a problem.  I'd only rate big problem when its somebody who is ignoring the reality of their game somehow, if you can still handle each loss and accept a win may not repeat with every the possibility then you are on the level.  I've spent all day gambling in the past and its not been a massive problem because I didnt go past my budget, it was some winnings some loss with no idea that somehow I had to stack them all together or bet bigger each time just took some interest in each bet placed and it was fine

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January 27, 2024, 11:30:50 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Without looking into any Wiki or definition or dictionary book, I would say that the term addiction implies that an activity is conducted in such a way that it must be described as pathological. An addiction, as per definition, does affect other activities of life or how else would you define an addiction if not by the impact it has on other areas of life?

This impact might vary for different people in terms of magnitude and while for some an activity is an addiction under certain circumstances, it might not yet be an addiction for someone else. But I am pretty sure that your question is packed with issues and should be rephrased. An addiction is something someone should get treatment for. How can it not be a problem if there is something inside you that needs treatment?

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January 27, 2024, 11:47:25 PM
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so those people who are addicted but always win huge will be considered as a gambler who knows what they are doing

Personal observation revealed that addiction takes different forms. You can still be winning yet don`t know what you are doing which is contrary to the opinion above. Emphasis shouldn`t be about money all the time. Good times with friends and family shouldn`t be traded for anything except working time. So, when a gambler is always gambling and neglecting family and friends, he is still acting wrongly even if he is winning. It is worth mentioning that one of the elements of gambling addiction is neglect for family. You can even be surprised to find out that the money he is making from gambling is not channelled to his family but still to gambling and experience will tell us that you cannot win all the time. So, gambling addiction is not a good thing.

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Until it becomes uncontrollable and what such person is yet to be classified as addicted because such person on their own can still control the events of such habits around them, addiction is worse more that as it was described by OP in some cases such person results to seeking professional help

Revisiting what is fun to you and you find as  your hobby is it addiction yet but one should be mindful of such hobby that have such a strong urge on you because it can gradually turn in to addiction at the point when you no longer have control over it and find yourself trying so hard by all means to satisfying such urge for a particular hobby especially one which involves money like gambling dose , then it's important to become mindful of it and not letting it getting a better part of you before you make moves to fixing it.
Addiction is characterized by a lack of control which leads to causing problems and they need to seek professional help. Revisiting what brings joy and serves as a hobby is engaging in activities for pleasure or recreation which is a normal part of life. The shift from a hobby to a potential addiction is often gradual, and People neeed to be vigilant when starting lose control and find themselves consistently trying to satisfy the urge.

Recognizing these signs early on is essential in preventing the hobby from turning into a problematic behavior. Seeking help and intervention when needed is a sign of strength and self-awareness. It's a broader understanding of responsible behavior, and they serve as a reminder to prioritize mental well-being when engaging in activities that have the potential for addictive patterns.

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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
Sure, addiction went a problem if the person concerned loses control to endanger the lives around his family. so if he lives in addiction without burden, I think we can understand that person has good management for his life, and his addition not endanger his life. So the problem now is addiction is not easy to control, in theory, we can easy to manage it for how much money to play and what time you can sit on play, but in reality, it's hard, if you go too far and get carried away by emotions you will come in negative addiction like them.

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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

If someone still have time for their family, do the things which they are still suppose to do in life, go to work and come back home, and other house activities and finance is not affected such person is not to be consider to be addicted to gambling yet, maybe he is just gambling too much which he thinks he is addicted but he is not the only time I can say one is addicted is if the person is not controlling how much he gamble with and how his activities goes but all they care about is gambling.

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