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January 30, 2024, 11:08:25 AM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
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Oshosondy
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January 30, 2024, 11:22:35 AM |
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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January 30, 2024, 11:31:38 AM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
One piece of advice I can give him is; let him create a fixed savings bank account in the bank that will be locked for any period of time that he writes on the contract. After he has done so, let him link his salary account to that fixed savings account and ask the bank to automate the amount that will leave his salary account and enter the savings account every month when he receives his salary. If he has carried the action mentioned above, let him think of a good goal that he wants to archive with the money he is saving on fixed, so that when the savings duration is complete, he will just take out the money and use it for important stuff. This might actually work for him because it has worked for some people that I know who are very good at reckless spending. The people who used the above strategy were not even gamblers, but they spent money as if they had a well full of money, while they were just salary earners who lacked proper economic knowledge about budgeting and spending. You want to help him? That's my two cents of advice, and I hope it helps. Feedback from you will be appreciated months later.
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Alphakilo
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January 30, 2024, 11:48:51 AM |
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Let him be. Unless he comes to his senses and sees a need for help, a need for a change, no matter the effort you put in talking to him he won't change. Even if you bring Eric Thomas to motivate him to quit, he won't quit until he sees a need for it. Best you could do is to be a friend to him. And pray for him if you believe in the power of prayer for him to change. And whenever you notice a slight spark of change seize the opportunity and direct him to the necessary professionals for help.
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KTChampions
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January 30, 2024, 11:51:05 AM |
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
It is obvious that he is in an acute phase of gambling addiction. But if we talk cynically, then as I understand it, this causes more trouble (moral) for the OP than for someone who spends all the money they earn on gambling? Maybe he's content to work hard so he can go spend all his money in a casino. If he doesn’t get into debt and continues to live like an ordinary person, then maybe there’s nothing wrong with that? If the addiction does not progress, then maybe one day he will get tired of it and find another hobby.
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piebeyb
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January 30, 2024, 12:01:01 PM |
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It seems that the person is not married and has children or even a family, so he feels that the money he has is only for himself, looking for luck in gambling, hoping to get instant wealth to change his life, or indeed he already feels that he has lost a lot of money in gambling, so he need the money back and try to recover the losses they have experienced while gambling, it is quite difficult to give suggestions and advice to people who are addicted to gambling and are obsessed with wanting to recover their losses in gambling. His habit is what keeps him from progressing, but because of the money he still gets from his job, he will continue to pay for his gambling and let alone all of us here, he doesn't even listen to your advice, the only way is to let him live with his gambling when he has experienced it. the time when he will start to think that the gambling he is doing is wrong of course he will realize it himself, but never leave him if he is your friend, make sure he is really well supervised, if he starts to feel bored and really wants to get out of the habit worse, give him advice to slowly reduce his habit and limit his budget on gambling. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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ultrloa
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January 30, 2024, 12:04:39 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Some how expect for no progress to happen for people relying on single income source then they enter in gambling activity and for sure with that they are close to get broke especially if they had bad gambling decisions made. And since you have said that he is addicted already I guess there's nothing to do for people who's not in his inner circle since for sure he will feel bad with those supposed to be advise since for sure he get angry if there's people will disturb for what activities they have done. If you are really concern much better to connect with his immediate family member which he trust the most since for sure he would listen to those guys and try to see how they could help to take the affected person on his current shaky situation.
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January 30, 2024, 12:10:55 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Seeing the way he spends his monthly salary, it seems like he has become obliged to gamble which is definitely difficult to prevent, especially if no one is managing his finances. So you could say your friend has lost control, his life hasn't changed much even though he has worked for years but without financial management he will have nothing in old age. It's rare for me to find people like this because usually people who have a source of income know how to allocate some of their funds to just gamble. In my opinion, all your suggestions will be in vain if the person has no awareness of how to control his money. I'm sure he was addicted to gambling because he didn't think about a backup plan if one day he didn't have a source of income.
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January 30, 2024, 12:14:24 PM |
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No shocking to see stories of people earning enough money yet it's actually not enough because of their vices like gambling. If you're going to see how much salary they really have, you would think that it's enough for that person to even feed his family. However, there are gamblers who spends a lot of money in gambling that they won't have enough money for their daily expenses. They don't have self awareness of how much it's affecting their lives. I know. I know someone similar to that situation. He actually have more salary compared to other average employees yet he don't have enough money to take home because of his gambling addictions. When he has money, he spend it on gambling thinking it's fine since he have money. But he won't realize that he's slowly spending most of his money on gambling. That's addiction. He's also old enough yet his mindset never changed.
If the person wants help, it's easier for him to influence and convince to change for the better. Find other things that he can do that he can enjoy so he wouldn't have the urge to gamble every time. Divert his attention from gambling.
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January 30, 2024, 12:14:35 PM |
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If he wants to change his addiction to gambling, he can start reducing the amount of money he gambles gradually, to the point where he only gambles a maximum of a few percent of his salary. Because if he continues to gamble his entire salary, it is certain that he will not be able to save or buy various things, especially if he is still 28 years old, he should immediately realize that at such a young age he must be able to prioritize his needs and gambling. Don't let him end up regretting what he has done because regret always comes too late and if he doesn't want to change then no one can help him other than himself.
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January 30, 2024, 12:24:30 PM |
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Definitely you need to do some research if you are gambling on skilled based games especially sports betting. However, if you go on slots, research is not necessary as it's a pure based game, you win when you are lucky and you lose when you are not.
What you need to research first is of how to be discipline in gambling, regardless of the game you need that to stay safe from losing more than you can't afford to lose. now, let's focus on sports betting, yes, research on the teams and its stats so you can analyze which side you'll bet on, but that's not all, there's more to that you need to learn as you go along, experience and the right analysis is the key to succeed.
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January 30, 2024, 12:50:16 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
It's very hard to help people who have gone that far in gambling. It's still good if he doesn't take a loan to gamble and doesn't exceed his salary but I am afraid it will lead to taking small loans from friends and then it goes further. To be fair, it's very hard to talk to them about this because I have a relative who was spending all of his salary in gambling and when I spoke with him, he told me that one day he would win a huge jackpot in slots and all of his spending would be compensated and he would be in a big profit. After a year, everything happened as he wished, he won a huge jackpot, bought a new car and retired. I believe he was very lucky but he had a serious conflict with his family when he won the jackpot. The moment the family congratulated him, he became very explosive and aggressive and was shouting at them that they didn't believe in him and were harassing him for his active gambling. He went to another house and abandoned family members. This is an example for me and now I think we shouldn't interfere in someone else's everyday life, even if it's an addiction because if they accidentally win the jackpot, they might shout at you for not believing in them.
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January 30, 2024, 01:15:36 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Let the person himself realize that what he is doing is not right. Maybe we should not insist on the reminder that we can do to them; it is still different because they themselves will actually discover this mistake. Because when that happens, the development and improvement that they will learn will be better; for sure, they know that. Isn't it said that with every mistake we make, it becomes the way for us to hone things even more? So, just let it be.
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January 30, 2024, 01:33:28 PM |
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Having a job that provides income but always being in the situation of someone who is unemployed who has no income because of gambling activities, this is why something that is done in excess is always not good, as you said that they do not look like ordinary workers when we look at them financially. Addiction becomes one of the worst situations that exist in gambling if you simply cannot control your gambling activities well in the sense of not overdoing it, but the fact is that it is difficult to overcome this kind of addiction if you basically come because you are affected by the chance of winning something.
This also confirms that addiction does not see how old you are, the point is if you come and get involved in the wrong way and understanding then obviously one day you will be in a situation like the OP told about that person, they absolutely cannot miss a moment not to gamble and even to the point of being willing to spend all their salary on activities that basically do not have any certainty, one of the reasons in my opinion is because of the hope they put on winning, previous defeats they consider as a sacrifice for a much bigger victory. So the bottom line is that it is quite difficult to overcome the problem of addiction, and it must always start with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.
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January 30, 2024, 01:34:12 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
Self control is not just what we achieve by age, it takes experience and strong will and maybe he has not come to that yet. There is a reason that some men keep some money that they don't want to spend with their wives and the reason is if they hold it or go out with it, they will spend it. So why don't you help him hold part of his money for him if you want to help him? If you help him hold a larger percentage of his money, it will help him restrict the numbers of times he will gamble because if he comes to ask for it at the wrong time that you both didn't agree on, you won't release it and by that is already a mechanism of gambling with little percentage of money from your income. To help him hold the for him is a good help . In fact, an addict gambler won't allow you to hold his money, so if this person accept that you should help him hold it then go ahead and do that because you would be helping someone out of his addiction.
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January 30, 2024, 01:41:26 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
Self control is not just what we achieve by age, it takes experience and strong will and maybe he has not come to that yet. There is a reason that some men keep some money that they don't want to spend with their wives and the reason is if they hold it or go out with it, they will spend it. So why don't you help him hold part of his money for him if you want to help him? If you help him hold a larger percentage of his money, it will help him restrict the numbers of times he will gamble because if he comes to ask for it at the wrong time that you both didn't agree on, you won't release it and by that is already a mechanism of gambling with little percentage of money from your income. To help him hold the for him is a good help . In fact, an addict gambler won't allow you to hold his money, so if this person accept that you should help him hold it then go ahead and do that because you would be helping someone out of his addiction. Many people had been having this same challenges for long and till now they are still battling it. It is not easy for us to that are chronic gamblers to easily reduce the way they gamble. Anyhow we can help people around us on how to stay safe without gambling too much, we need to do it for the sake of helping them. Holding the funds for the person would have been a good idea than staying neutral. Normally we need to learn how to stay healthy as gamblers so that we don't end up betting too much and becoming an addict. Understanding ourselves would help a lot and safe us from the future drama or complains we could face. We all want to make money as gambles and that should not make us to go to desperate in a way that could cost us losing unnecessarily funds.
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January 30, 2024, 01:47:17 PM |
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Since he's still at the acute stage of gambling addiction now it's best for him to quit or take a long break because at this point any attempt to help slow down or probably gamble different will only trigger him to even gamble more because so far it's obvious his psychology is messy already so he will be chasing loss at every slightest opportunity so it's best he quits for awhile and when he is stable he can try again but for now he shouldn't gamble again as he is already on the path to ruin. If he eventually gets back to gambling after now he should be guided to staying disciplined and responsible and he can achieve that by gambling based on a budget like you did suggested that he uses a fraction of his pay cheque.
Most persons who struggle with this kind of issues it's usually best they quit for a while without trying to attempt recovering that which they have already lost because trying to recover that which was lost is the obvious reasons he risk his full py cheque without a second taught.
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January 30, 2024, 01:52:46 PM |
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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
This is more painful than gambling without any source of income because you work hard for the money but the outcome is still the same which ended up losing it all and tired at the same time. I experienced this before but luckily I only wasted my signature campaign salary. I’m not a regular poster so my post here in forum is precious for me because I allocate my free time to give some effort to provide contribution here while I always ended up losing all my salary very quickly in weekly basis by gambling it for a chance to increase it a little bit before I withdraw. Now I learned a lot after doing some computation to my total loss. I think the next tip in able to overcome such need to gambling is to value more the money you earned so that you will not easily wasted it on gambling.
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January 30, 2024, 02:08:25 PM |
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You do not use age to judge people, some underage can behave and handle things better than adults. Treat him like an underrage person and if you are a good friend that can help him to keep his money at first, especially if you know you trust yourself and will not spend the money, why not. But it is better advised that the person use the services of banks and investment companies. There are many programs going on now in banks where you can set your savings amount and target goal, he can use that option too. He can plan with his income and hold the money for at least a year. Only that this option would not be entirely good due to inflation that is biting globally. Well, the person may still go for the USD option as well if his bank can afford him that. Another option is investment, let him continue to save to buy land and other small properties he can afford, and I know that he will thank you later.
About gambling, it is good to know what you are entering into before you do it, gambling has both good and eveil part, and if one didn't learn from the beginning, the good part and enbrace it and know the evil part and guard against it, it will become an issue that will overwhelm the person just like your guy. As it is now, it might be appropriate for him to seek a professional help too, once advice is no more working on him, that might be the next point of action in such situation.
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January 30, 2024, 02:16:27 PM |
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If a person wants to succeed in gambling, then, first of all, he must learn to restrain his emotions and try to manage his money rationally. It is also necessary to choose the type of gambling, in which at least something depends on the actions of the player, and not just on his luck
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