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February 17, 2024, 08:40:13 PM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
He just needs help sohe will be able to quit gambling at least for a while until he's able to take care of his mind well enough to control himself not to be spending so much on gambling to the point it causes him ruin, but then he has to first make up he's mind that he no longer wants to continue with such and would want to get on a new leave.

It's normal for beginners luck to be a fuelling factor for some newbies gamblers to want to continually gamble some more even after they have been known that it was just luck, they will think that it's actually was gambling and they can get lucky much more than they would be unlucky but then sadly sometimes it doesn't turn out that they will be lucky again and they may end up loosing all that they have gathered to the casino again, but then some of them learn after such experience and become more controlled and a better gambler.

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February 17, 2024, 10:59:26 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2024, 11:16:11 PM by carlfebz2
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
He just needs help sohe will be able to quit gambling at least for a while until he's able to take care of his mind well enough to control himself not to be spending so much on gambling to the point it causes him ruin, but then he has to first make up he's mind that he no longer wants to continue with such and would want to get on a new leave.

It's normal for beginners luck to be a fuelling factor for some newbies gamblers to want to continually gamble some more even after they have been known that it was just luck, they will think that it's actually was gambling and they can get lucky much more than they would be unlucky but then sadly sometimes it doesn't turn out that they will be lucky again and they may end up loosing all that they have gathered to the casino again, but then some of them learn after such experience and become more controlled and a better gambler.
One of the most important thing in gambling or on the time that you do engage with it is not to make yourself that addicted.No matter which type of gambling you are into whether strategic or luck based casino games which it doesnt matter. People would really be sharing up with the same mindset and having those hopes in mind when dealing up with gambling on which it is really to make money.
REsearch isnt really that the main thing which is needed but rather having the control and discipline on dealing up into this space. We do know that when it comes to gambling then tendency of
addiction is really high and this is something that should really be avoided in the first place. This is why it would be always best on having that control on this.

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February 17, 2024, 11:06:11 PM
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But in this case we must realize that deciding to stop activities in gambling is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand because after all we must realize that stopping activities that we always do must take time and effort as well as in gambling.

Indeed, it would be great if indeed seeing from the completion that is done when something can hinder the achievement you have then it would be better if it is released so that it does not interfere with you in getting an achievement but when this relates to the habit of gambling in the end letting go of it requires more effort because after all gambling is a very difficult thing for us to stay away from when we are used to doing it because there will always be a feeling of lack when we don't do gambling in the end.

The gambling stopping should need to understand by the gamblers first,because without their own opinion it’s not possible to stop the gambling.In addition the gamblers should accept it was the process doesn’t work at instantly.When the gamblers begin to the gambling addiction,it’s not easy for the gambler to stop the gambling as like we think.He should initiate the gambling addiction reduction by the amount of money deposited to the gambling site.This only works because when the deposit money is low,the loss also low.

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February 17, 2024, 11:16:12 PM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
He just needs help sohe will be able to quit gambling at least for a while until he's able to take care of his mind well enough to control himself not to be spending so much on gambling to the point it causes him ruin, but then he has to first make up he's mind that he no longer wants to continue with such and would want to get on a new leave.

It's normal for beginners luck to be a fuelling factor for some newbies gamblers to want to continually gamble some more even after they have been known that it was just luck, they will think that it's actually was gambling and they can get lucky much more than they would be unlucky but then sadly sometimes it doesn't turn out that they will be lucky again and they may end up loosing all that they have gathered to the casino again, but then some of them learn after such experience and become more controlled and a better gambler.


​If someone entered a casino and did that, winning a lot of money for the first time, with their first experience, it is something great, but if the person continued and then lost and fell into addiction, well, that is something we have. What to see is that it was perhaps due to inexpedience, which is what commonly happens, so if you fell into addiction like that once and it's something very unfortunate, but what can you do now? read? Yes, it is the most recommendable that the eposn that gave you this because it is dedicated to educating itself about casinos, in the way of doing things, in what the risk is like and everything that people can go through when they become addicted So for me it is imperative that you can tell those people that to avoid getting out of control, they have to allocate money that they are willing to lose, that is something they have to do, otherwise things can be very disastrous, this is what I would like Spread the word to avoid a lot of addiction in games.

In this order of ideas, I have always thought that a person who is in this problem, the most recommended thing is that he go to a psychologist and that they give him all the possible recommendations and treatments to get him out of it, and if he cannot treat the addiction because the case is very advanced, pass it on to another addict who can medicate and everything, the most important thing is that you take preventive measures, because it is very sad for a person to throw away their life due to an addiction, which is gambling and alcohol They are something that must be taken with great care and respect.

Another type of addiction like drugs is more delicate, it is something that you have to do things, I know people who are addicted to "chimu" I don't know if they know it, but that is a very ugly addiction, and quite strongly, in Personally, I will always see this as a way to make the people affected in something, I am very emphatic about that, since all these types of things are the ones that should be avoided.

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February 17, 2024, 11:26:08 PM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.

Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Ahh, I see where you're coming from and I quite agree with the fact that some of our gambling friends here are "not addicted to gambling per se" but are oftentimes seen wasting all their paychecks on gambling, not good if I do say so myself. Which is why I started incorporating a gambling bankroll that is self-sustaining cause nowadays being safe from gambling addiction's just not gonna cut it anymore, you have to make sure that you also aren't using your pocket money to support your gambling indulgences if you wanna stay afloat.

Personally, I have a bankroll that I don't use for anything else than gambling, it's not that much anyway as it's only a couple thousand dollars in there separate from all of my bank accounts and all that. I use money from that bankroll to support my gambling desires, and have made it self-sustaining by incorporating a net-profit system of play (three losses or three wins = quit for the day) which allowed me to preserve the immediate value of the bankroll for quite some time now.

You don't have to be scrooge mcduck to have your own bankroll and support your gambling journey without taking it out of your pocket. If anything I say this is something that you should look into the moment you decide you want to gamble more.

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February 18, 2024, 04:55:07 AM
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his life will be in vain if he continues to maintain his habit, if he wants to change his life he must really stop gambling or as long as he thinks that gambling is just entertainment, there is no need to spend a lot of money on gambling he will rise from his downturn, but if he thinks that by gambling his money will be doubled he will continue to decline

If the gambling he does is only an obstacle to his achievement, then deciding to stop gambling activities is a quite wise decision. and it is indeed a wrong perception that gambling can provide benefits and can change a person's life for the better financially.
But in this case we must realize that deciding to stop activities in gambling is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand because after all we must realize that stopping activities that we always do must take time and effort as well as in gambling.

Indeed, it would be great if indeed seeing from the completion that is done when something can hinder the achievement you have then it would be better if it is released so that it does not interfere with you in getting an achievement but when this relates to the habit of gambling in the end letting go of it requires more effort because after all gambling is a very difficult thing for us to stay away from when we are used to doing it because there will always be a feeling of lack when we don't do gambling in the end.

Yes, it depends on how willing to stop it and what level of addiction is experienced, if the desire to stop gambling is very weak then yes he will never be able to stop gambling, but if with a strong determination to stop even if it takes time, it will certainly heal by itself.

The thing to make changes is to never be afraid and make a lot of excuses, it takes time, it is difficult and others that make someone not have a strong motivation to stop gambling, but with a note that gambling does make it bad in a life that has principles.

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February 18, 2024, 11:13:21 AM
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Many people have the energy for hard work but they lack knowledge about progression, I understand this perfectly, and in today world it's better to be more smarter than becoming a hard worker, just been a hard worker doesn't pay in today's world.

It's even better to be smart and avoid hardworking, yes smart ness can bring you the changes you desire faster than brute forcing through everything, any hard worker with no sense will fall in the foot of the smart people and the smart people will use the hard workers for themselves.

There are people who ask others about gambling and from the answers they got they choose to avoid gambling, that's without giving it a try in the first place, they just decide not to have anything to do with gambling, that's because they did their own research and findings first, and what they get is what they are not prepared for.
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February 18, 2024, 11:43:13 AM
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Yes, it depends on how willing to stop it and what level of addiction is experienced, if the desire to stop gambling is very weak then yes he will never be able to stop gambling, but if with a strong determination to stop even if it takes time, it will certainly heal by itself.

The thing to make changes is to never be afraid and make a lot of excuses, it takes time, it is difficult and others that make someone not have a strong motivation to stop gambling, but with a note that gambling does make it bad in a life that has principles.
Before allowing a situation where you need to think about quitting gambling, it would be worthwhile to analyze how great are the chances in gambling to achieve what you are striving for?

That is, before I start playing, I would try to figure out how I can make money in gambling, and get at least an approximate understanding of how I can achieve this. Then I would highlight some budget and start trying to see how real it is for me. In this case, I don’t see where gambling could become a problem for me, because at every stage I will control everything.

And if for a player these are chaotic actions, he tries to play without a plan, without understanding, without a clear budget, then yes, this can lead him to problems.

 
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February 18, 2024, 05:11:41 PM
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Many people have the energy for hard work but they lack knowledge about progression, I understand this perfectly, and in today world it's better to be more smarter than becoming a hard worker, just been a hard worker doesn't pay in today's world.

It's even better to be smart and avoid hardworking, yes smart ness can bring you the changes you desire faster than brute forcing through everything, any hard worker with no sense will fall in the foot of the smart people and the smart people will use the hard workers for themselves.

There are people who ask others about gambling and from the answers they got they choose to avoid gambling, that's without giving it a try in the first place, they just decide not to have anything to do with gambling, that's because they did their own research and findings first, and what they get is what they are not prepared for.
The idea that hard labour no longer works in today's fast-paced environment is correct. A harsh realisation is dawning on many. Utilising intellect above work is tempting and vital. My experience has shown me how smart people outmanoeuvre hard workers.

Is avoiding hard labour the answer? In my perspective, intelligence without effort is like a car without gas. Smarts get you going, but hard effort keeps you going.

Your research-based abstinence from gambling is intriguing. Gathering and acting on information is a crucial skill. But isnt life balance? While knowledge is important, so is openness to experiences. Others are deliberate risks that lead to growth.

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February 18, 2024, 05:17:31 PM
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As far as I understand there are many things to consider before gambling because these sites can ruin people's lives. As far as I can tell from my own knowledge and thinking, gambling kills people, so if one goes to this stage, he must play for fun. Because I think this section should not be played for life changing purposes. Many of those who gamble get greedy and ruin their lives and families, so everyone must consider this.
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?   
Gambling doesn't move a person forward it's a game of luck and whoever assume to go forward in life through gambling is living in his illusion and rethink again finding himself in that shit
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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
The reality is that you can't help him doing it on your own, with all you said about this guy he has gotten to an addictive stage where a professional attention should be involved. Confining him will sound absurd for a matured family man with responsibility therefore he can be giving a rehabilitating session's with a counselor and also his family should show support by having access into his finance as it will create a limit so he doesn't have to spend all money the way he's doing.
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But in this case we must realize that deciding to stop activities in gambling is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand because after all we must realize that stopping activities that we always do must take time and effort as well as in gambling.

Indeed, it would be great if indeed seeing from the completion that is done when something can hinder the achievement you have then it would be better if it is released so that it does not interfere with you in getting an achievement but when this relates to the habit of gambling in the end letting go of it requires more effort because after all gambling is a very difficult thing for us to stay away from when we are used to doing it because there will always be a feeling of lack when we don't do gambling in the end.

The gambling stopping should need to understand by the gamblers first,because without their own opinion it’s not possible to stop the gambling.In addition the gamblers should accept it was the process doesn’t work at instantly.When the gamblers begin to the gambling addiction,it’s not easy for the gambler to stop the gambling as like we think.He should initiate the gambling addiction reduction by the amount of money deposited to the gambling site.This only works because when the deposit money is low,the loss also low.

There are no lessons on how to break the addiction, it's not taught in school and it's only the person who knows how best to quit gambling addiction and maybe some people who are already in the world of gambling will know some of the suggested ways to reduce the impact of addiction. Most people say that overcoming gambling addiction is a difficult thing, I understand that because addiction lies in a person's mind that is difficult to ignore the habits that they always want and prioritize and that means gambling addiction will be easily overcome if there is basically a strong will and determination from themselves, overcoming the disease that is in the mind must always start with themselves and only then can you follow some of the things that are suggested by many people, especially psychological experts.  But for the problem of the process yes as you said there is nothing instant and for the problem of how long you can recover completely I think it goes back to the level of addiction you are experiencing.

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February 18, 2024, 06:30:04 PM
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There is only one way for him if he truly wants to recover and that is asking for help,professional help but as a foundational base to success after such treatment,he needs to want this himself badly.There is no other possibilities as all other options beside professional help in such cases can only lead to worse consequences as the days pass by.
I think that there should be some form of "semi-professional" or informal help that his friend can receive if the services of a professional therapist is costly and unaffordable. These semi-professional and informal help could come from religious leaders, past gamblers who have recovered, mature member of the family.

Yeah I think this is one of the biggest mistakes gamblers make, is not doing their homework ahead of time.  I even find myself a bit guilty of it at times. 
A lot of gamblers do not learn both from their mistakes and the mistakes of others. Really, the lesson is learned after a huge loss. It is like the proverbial medicine after death. I too have for a lack of patience made countless mistakes in gambling but I think we get better with time as we see the mistakes reduce more and more.

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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Trying to stop an addiction is always one of the hardest task for an individual to accomplish, reason been that such menace has eaten too deep that the victim can not afford to detach from it. But however, the truth of the fact remains that for a gambling addict to be set free, he the addict just need to be ready and willing to stop activities that engaging in activities that resulted to his addiction, such as reckless gambling and not knowing when to stop when losing or either winning. Hence, the best way to help this friend of yours stop gambling is for someone to help him plan on how to use/spend his salary, while aloting a small portion to gambling, since it can't be automatically eradicated, but gradually.

 
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A lot of gamblers do not learn both from their mistakes and the mistakes of others. Really, the lesson is learned after a huge loss. It is like the proverbial medicine after death. I too have for a lack of patience made countless mistakes in gambling but I think we get better with time as we see the mistakes reduce more and more.
Mistakes cannot be stopped unless we can control them well. I mean everything can still be calmed if we have an ego that can be controlled. Often we lose control when gambling and this sometimes becomes a driver that we cannot brake. The result is that we often forget and even regret when it is too late. So being more mature while it can save us.
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it's best to stop giving him advice, just let it go and tell him "do whatever you want and be responsible for your actions" this way he will realize more quickly when he has lost everything and he doesn't have any hope, that way his heart will be open and he will gain a very painful experience in that way, of course he will be deterred and get better, he will think about your words

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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.

Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
When it comes to tip then there's no tip that would work if a certain person wont really be that realizing his mistakes on which he would really be continuing to play no matter what
and no advises would really be that be heard off, yes they could hear you out but they wont really be showing care at all in speaking about quitting. They would really be that definitely
continuing or would completely stop basing into those advises, if ever your friend didnt hear you out then its his choice.You've done your part and you've been able to tell on whats better
but they've decided to continue despite of the risks involved and results or outcomes would really be always that negative and this is something that you should really be needing to realize it first.

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Well, what I think about this is that things happen there, if there were cases that fit in the dirty place, then it doesn't matter, just don't go in again , Obviously don't deposit more there, maybe What seems different is that those are their policies to close the gutters, Block them, did you read the Tos in the beginning of your registration? because that is one of the flaws that we have, but don't complicate your life, don't go back to that betting house again, there are many more, that have the things that you ask for and that you are used to making a good bet, so for sure I don't think there's that much of a problem, by chance if they got a lot of documents and they want them deleted, well I think there is something to worry about, but in this order of days things can Wait , but if your concern lies in the documents Well then I would ask if the account is blocked and Later you can Ask for the Account to be deleted so that they destroy the KYC that you left.

But let this serve as a lesson for you to do things like this because they could harm us. You should not immediately launch yourself into betting paths without having first reviewed everything, each of the options or something like that, before playing or Before making a bet, one sees and takes a good look at all of one's options, coaro is now sometimes with the pure Tos, because one hopes that it will be enough.

But the things that we don't want, we shouldn't accept them, and what they told you are due to pure policies of the site and its rules, something that should have been in the Tos and that maybe I didn't list them or you missed them, as they are There are so many things in the Cough that one sometimes ignores.

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February 18, 2024, 10:48:09 PM
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it's best to stop giving him advice, just let it go and tell him "do whatever you want and be responsible for your actions" this way he will realize more quickly when he has lost everything and he doesn't have any hope, that way his heart will be open and he will gain a very painful experience in that way, of course he will be deterred and get better, he will think about your words


The gambler who get advice from the old gambler should be accepted.Because they will advise based on the experience on the same gambling site.The gambler who take the responsibility for the loss in the gambling site are the professional gamblers.The gambler who take responsibility for each one dollar in the gambling site will make huge from the same gambling site.Because the gambler does not take risk when they take responsibility of the money in the gambling sites.The gamblers who face the loss whose heart will be broken one in the emotion.The broken heart also reason for the loss in the gambling site most likely in random betting.

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February 18, 2024, 10:58:50 PM
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it's best to stop giving him advice, just let it go and tell him "do whatever you want and be responsible for your actions" this way he will realize more quickly when he has lost everything and he doesn't have any hope, that way his heart will be open and he will gain a very painful experience in that way, of course he will be deterred and get better, he will think about your words


The gambler who get advice from the old gambler should be accepted.Because they will advise based on the experience on the same gambling site.The gambler who take the responsibility for the loss in the gambling site are the professional gamblers.The gambler who take responsibility for each one dollar in the gambling site will make huge from the same gambling site.Because the gambler does not take risk when they take responsibility of the money in the gambling sites.The gamblers who face the loss whose heart will be broken one in the emotion.The broken heart also reason for the loss in the gambling site most likely in random betting.
Of course what you say is very true, but have you ever been with a gambling addict who spent all his money on gambling? irresponsible gambling addicts, they won't care about what we say, even if it's for their own good, it's hard to make them aware, we can only tell them, but the choice is still up to them.

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