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January 30, 2024, 11:53:10 PM
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It needs to have self-questioned whether gambling can be a joy to do or not, because there are risks to handle if things go wrong.

Indees a self-evaluation does the magic for people who want to consider gambling as a thing for themselves. Whether it be to make money or to have fun, it has to be seen as a thing to indulge in or not else it will come with dire consequences.

That you have people around you , maybe family and friends gambling doesn't guarantee you success in it

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January 30, 2024, 11:54:35 PM
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Gambling addiction is real and destructive, if you have exhausted all the means of trying to talk to this person, then i think you have to seek professional help from a psychologist. This professional will take this person through therapy and that could work, it is not a guarantee, but i have heard stories of many people who overcame certain addictions in this way.

Gambling responsibly is the perfect way to do things, if you notice that you are spending so much of your money and time into gambling, then you have to stop immediately and seek help, because you are an irresponsible gambler, and it will affect your social life and relationship.

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January 30, 2024, 11:58:16 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2024, 06:15:34 PM by AmoreJaz
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
This is one thing about people who gambles they always felt or thought that the money is always there or is regularly coming without knowing hit jackpot is one in a blue moon and needs to be properly taking care of any one they won otherwise they could still end up spending their entire money back to that same casino again, when they hit huge amount they should think of what to do with the money not to remain empty or lacking and wanting since it seems that any amount gotten from gambling doesn't always last and I don't know if someone else also noticed that as well.

i think, gamblers know already their chances in gambling. they are only in denial that the chance here is good. because we all know that gambling is gambling and we know that if you are playing in regular casino games, luck is always part of the equation. your chance of winning is quite increasing if you happen to dedicate your skills in sports betting or poker game.

Research must be done before starting gambling because how a gambler will replace himself in gambling and whether he can ever control himself from gambling, these are all matters of a gambler's research.
Gambling is such a strong addiction that once one gets into it one cannot easily stop oneself from that addiction. The effect of his addiction affects the society, family and even his friends. Therefore, a gambler's financial status should also be given importance because gambling is mainly associated with profit loss. In this case, if a gambler is not financially independent, he should not involve himself in gambling.

unfortunately, most gamblers are just following their heart's desires and so the possibility of addiction is always there. also, even regular gamblers will find out that at one point the games are so addicting you can't stop yourself. so what more of those addicts, right? no research can stop the temptation. limiting and strictly sticking to your budget can.

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January 31, 2024, 01:11:51 AM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
That person needs to start by excluding himself from the casinos he's using and initiate instead of falling through that cycle.

I also agree with the others about him getting some professional help because that's probably his best shot at solving his addiction if he can't do it on his own.

Maybe it's worth bringing up the issue with his family members if that's what it takes for him to listen and start fixing his addiction.

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January 31, 2024, 01:47:53 AM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
That person needs to start by excluding himself from the casinos he's using and initiate instead of falling through that cycle.

I also agree with the others about him getting some professional help because that's probably his best shot at solving his addiction if he can't do it on his own.

Maybe it's worth bringing up the issue with his family members if that's what it takes for him to listen and start fixing his addiction.
It would be difficult for him to quit gambling if he didn't understand its impact on his life. At 28 years old, he is in the prime of his youth and is likely focused on enjoying life to the fullest. This may be why he is only interested in gambling and not considering the consequences of his actions.

Stopping his addiction requires a family member to help him understand what he needs to do.

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January 31, 2024, 01:54:04 AM
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Someone who gambles must have income to gamble, but not everyone who has income can make good use of their salary, some use it all for gambling because they believe their money is increasing and to chase their losses without realizing that they are addicted, as the OP said and There are also those who set aside a little money just to have fun gambling and not exceed the limit and this is true because when we have income we must be able to limit our expenses so that we can buy other necessities and not spend it just on gambling.

If the person has been doing the same thing for months, it means that he is already addicted and a person who has done a habit like that will find it difficult for him to stop and he will do it again when he gets his salary again, the only advice I give to that person is that he must entrust the money to a trusted person who can manage the finances so that the person does not use all the money for gambling. It can be entrusted to his mother so that her mother who manages his finances.
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January 31, 2024, 03:38:32 AM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
I don't think anyone can help him except himself. You also said that he is over 28 years old, an age where he is really starting to mature, he is aware of what his gambling is like. However, in terms of gambling addiction, I think this case is not alarming. He's just standing still because all the salary he's earned has been spent on gambling, but he's still lucky that he hasn't gotten into debt or affected anyone else. There are many people who have other hobbies such as shopping addiction, they also spend all the money they earn on shopping, even abusing credit cards.
Therefore, what he needs most now is to slowly change his habits. For example, instead of his usual gambling of 100 USD, you can suggest him to slowly reduce the amount he gambles silver down to 80-90 USD. Once you get used to this number, continue to reduce it to 60-70 USD.
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January 31, 2024, 03:48:39 AM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Gambling activities make the economy not improve. he doesn't have financial freedom yet but he tries to spend money by gambling. I know maybe he's looking for his luck by gambling, but maybe he won't get it if he continues to ignore his finances.
it would be worse if he already had a family, and the income from his hard work would not be enough for his needs and gambling. somehow advise people like that, maybe they will realize when they have problems in their family and economy that they really can't gamble anymore.

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January 31, 2024, 04:18:32 AM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Gambling activities make the economy not improve. he doesn't have financial freedom yet but he tries to spend money by gambling. I know maybe he's looking for his luck by gambling, but maybe he won't get it if he continues to ignore his finances.
it would be worse if he already had a family, and the income from his hard work would not be enough for his needs and gambling. somehow advise people like that, maybe they will realize when they have problems in their family and economy that they really can't gamble anymore.
That's true because, by gambling, someone will be triggered to use more and more money and can forget to control themselves when gambling. They will spend all their money to win, even though spending their money doesn't guarantee they can win. He can gamble but must remember that his family's needs are met so that everything doesn't get disturbed. He also needs to allocate a certain amount of funds for gambling and for his expenses so that he will not be disturbed by his gambling. It is indeed difficult to advise people like that because they already consider gambling to be an important thing in their lives and because they still have the desire to win from gambling, which makes them keep gambling. That's why before we gamble, we have to research how to use gambling well so that we don't fall deeper into gambling.

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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.


Even if a person has a successful source of income and he still stagnant on what he is doing, just like a cycle over the years, there's a possibility that this person will not become successful in his life and tends to become broke in the future. All the money that he got will surely spent in a not so important things. I didn't meant to say that gambling is not that important, but if you can't handle yourself, you will become addicted. Just a piece of advice, Always know your priorities and know how to handle yourself, your spending habits and your self control.



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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.


Even if a person has a successful source of income and he still stagnant on what he is doing, just like a cycle over the years, there's a possibility that this person will not become successful in his life and tends to become broke in the future. All the money that he got will surely spent in a not so important things. I didn't meant to say that gambling is not that important, but if you can't handle yourself, you will become addicted. Just a piece of advice, Always know your priorities and know how to handle yourself, your spending habits and your self control.
No, from the looks of this, that person will never succeed in life or even survive in life if he keeps on doing what he is doing. Imagine you are working your ass so hard and you still think of wasting it on gambling. Does that person don't know the value of money despite how hard he works to earn it? If he still prioritises gambling before anything and keeps on doing that, then there will be no future for him.

If a person wastes their hard-earned money just to satisfy their addiction to gambling, then they deserve to experience the consequences of doing gambling. I'm not saying that people who have a minimum wage should not gamble, but limit or know when to gamble, because if you need that money and you lose it in a gamble, then you just add another problem and you make yourself deep in suffering.

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Maybe you should meet his boss at work? Assuming he is getting $500 as salary every month, the boss should help transfer $450 into his fixed account every month, and he is free to accept $50 as cash for other things he might need? This won't stop his addiction in gambling though but it's a good strategy to stop him from working in vain every month because of gambling.

This is step one, the step two should be relatives, you are not a family to him, find his family member and expose to them that he is addicted to gambling, they will be more closer to him and mentor him than you can, I also don't like softness when trying to change a addict gambler, you need to be extremely strict with them, make them feel like gambling is not safe and getting addicted is even worse.

I have someone who make around $80 every month but because this money is too small he decide to use all amount on trading, he was into copy trading and things are going fine but later losses after losses starts occurring, it get to the point where his account turned empty, and luckily for him he listened to my advice, I told him to live under his means and save up, its a gradual process, instead of doing copy trading he should learn trading himself, now he is making more than $80 in trading once every month.

The problem starts with what we want in life, but we don't want to slowly rise up to the top, people are always in rush to make life changing money, and the wrongful thing here is that they are trying to get this through gambling, which is full of uncertainty.

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Maybe you should meet his boss at work? Assuming he is getting $500 as salary every month, the boss should help transfer $450 into his fixed account every month, and he is free to accept $50 as cash for other things he might need? This won't stop his addiction in gambling though but it's a good strategy to stop him from working in vain every month because of gambling.

If OP would do that, he would quickly lose that friend. Imagine someone is trying to control or manipulate your salary behind your back. Add a fact that you are gambling addicted, and in the end we get explosion of emotions, curses and etc. Also it is unethical to decide what a person should to with his earned money and try to impact on it. The guy worked to get that money, let him make his own decision how to use them. Just in our cases his expenses on gambling must be limited.

I have written in the past, to beat gambling addiction, it must be replace with other addiction. It might sound hard, but that is the truth. Person must get busy with something else. His thoughts must be switched on something else. That is why I have suggested either get another job to be completely busy (or less financially dependent) or get another hobby.

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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.


Even if a person has a successful source of income and he still stagnant on what he is doing, just like a cycle over the years, there's a possibility that this person will not become successful in his life and tends to become broke in the future. All the money that he got will surely spent in a not so important things. I didn't meant to say that gambling is not that important, but if you can't handle yourself, you will become addicted. Just a piece of advice, Always know your priorities and know how to handle yourself, your spending habits and your self control.
No, from the looks of this, that person will never succeed in life or even survive in life if he keeps on doing what he is doing. Imagine you are working your ass so hard and you still think of wasting it on gambling. Does that person don't know the value of money despite how hard he works to earn it? If he still prioritises gambling before anything and keeps on doing that, then there will be no future for him.

If a person wastes their hard-earned money just to satisfy their addiction to gambling, then they deserve to experience the consequences of doing gambling. I'm not saying that people who have a minimum wage should not gamble, but limit or know when to gamble, because if you need that money and you lose it in a gamble, then you just add another problem and you make yourself deep in suffering.

Provably that person will go on miserable situation since imagine how far he can go for doing that and for sure once he lose a lot of money there's a chance that he will get broke then get a lot of loans since usually that will be the faith of addicted gamblers especially if they don't have other way to find immediate money and they would go on that last resort just to get money to satisfy their unnecessary gambling needs.

If situation go to worse and they use all they have I think they need to face the consequences of what they have done so that they could realize that money is hard to earn and using that on pointless also abusive means doesn't give them a good life in long run. We can see a lot of negative opinions here that's why its important for new gamblers to research so that they will not face the worst situation in life just because of their gambling activities.

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What is next? Any tip?

This is a rare case of someone becoming addicted immediately after winning a small amount of money. And immediately, these people begin to feel like the lucky ones, and they can't be stopped, because they want to experience this feeling again. This forces them to play over and over again, giving their entire salary, and it is possible that such a player begins to take debts from friends and acquaintances. Of course, this is a difficult situation, and you can't bring your life to the point where the game becomes so important.

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Having a job that provides income but always being in the situation of someone who is unemployed who has no income because of gambling activities, this is why something that is done in excess is always not good, as you said that they do not look like ordinary workers when we look at them financially. Addiction becomes one of the worst situations that exist in gambling if you simply cannot control your gambling activities well in the sense of not overdoing it, but the fact is that it is difficult to overcome this kind of addiction if you basically come because you are affected by the chance of winning something.

This also confirms that addiction does not see how old you are, the point is if you come and get involved in the wrong way and understanding then obviously one day you will be in a situation like the OP told about that person, they absolutely cannot miss a moment not to gamble and even to the point of being willing to spend all their salary on activities that basically do not have any certainty, one of the reasons in my opinion is because of the hope they put on winning, previous defeats they consider as a sacrifice for a much bigger victory. So the bottom line is that it is quite difficult to overcome the problem of addiction, and it must always start with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.

Indeed, doing things excessively is not good, because something done excessively will usually result in a bad outcome, especially if gambling excessively is not recommended, it is better to gamble in moderation, and it is indeed an addiction. It is also a common and serious problem, and this is certainly not a good day, with so many addicted gamblers it is a big problem.

That's right, addiction doesn't look at age, anyone can become addicted if they gamble excessively. Most of them are addicted to gambling because they have high hopes and I think they are also aware that the risks involved in gambling are very big, but these risks can still be covered by their sense of confidence about the victory they can get.  and it is indeed difficult to overcome addiction, and I think many people fail when they want to stop their addiction.

Of course, in anything and everything you do for example in real life if it is done excessively it will be synonymous with results that are usually not good or even disappointing, especially if this is applied to gambling activities which in fact have absolutely no certainty and guarantee of anything at the end of the session, You will end up with two possibilities of winning or losing, it is really unknowable and this is the reason why it is really not recommended to overdo it in gambling, the worry is when you cannot accept the fact of losing and of course it can make you emotional and in the end gamble impulsively and end up with addiction. Another thing as I said above that addiction is the worst situation that exists in gambling, you can get into this situation unconsciously through emotional scenarios that take control of yourself in certain situations especially when you are on a losing streak due to overaction.

You have confirmed my statement above, so to be honest I really don't understand what some people say about not disputing or even advising the elderly to spend their retirement by engaging in gambling activities, as I said above that gambling is absolutely regardless of age, We are sentient beings in the sense that we are easily influenced by things, especially things that we cannot accept and that means that no matter if you are an elderly person if you are not a responsible enough gambler by nature then it is clear that eventually you will be able to enter the addiction phase unconsciously because gambling involves expectations which also means that when you put your hopes on winning then it is usually difficult to ignore the situation of losing which in turn makes a person more emotional and gamble with the aim of returning something that has been lost. It is a fact that addiction is a difficult problem to overcome, it is a disease that lies in one's mind and this is the reason why I previously said that addiction can only be overcome with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.

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January 31, 2024, 11:44:08 AM
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It needs to have self-questioned whether gambling can be a joy to do or not, because there are risks to handle if things go wrong.

Indees a self-evaluation does the magic for people who want to consider gambling as a thing for themselves. Whether it be to make money or to have fun, it has to be seen as a thing to indulge in or not else it will come with dire consequences.

That you have people around you , maybe family and friends gambling doesn't guarantee you success in it
I believe that when we want to do anything, even if it is not gambling, many things are supposed to be put into consideration to have the knowledge about that thing and to ascertain if it is fitting for us or if we will just be wasting our time trying or doing it. Gambling is a very good example, it is wrong the way many are approaching gambling and this is the reason why they think that gambling is that bad. Imagine someone through his uncle started gambling, this is just because he saw his uncle gambling, should that justify it? He may not even ask the uncle what he is gambling for, why is he gambling and what are the bad and good sides of gambling. But will just dabble into it and will begin to cry foul later, it doesn't work like that. If such had been smart enough to first inquire about it, this would still not have automatically stopped him but would only educate him on the good and bad sides of gambling, especially how to be careful when gambling.

It is now left for the person to decide whether to proceed or not as gambling is not so convenient for every personality. We have to be sure that we can cope before doing it. By this, the person must have successfully evaluated himself to know what to face and even how to face it better. And on doing it, if it is not what he can cope with, he will easily know as he is cautious about gambling and can quit or continue to try his luck instead of being addicted.

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January 31, 2024, 11:52:17 AM
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What is next? Any tip?

This is a rare case of someone becoming addicted immediately after winning a small amount of money. And immediately, these people begin to feel like the lucky ones, and they can't be stopped, because they want to experience this feeling again. This forces them to play over and over again, giving their entire salary, and it is possible that such a player begins to take debts from friends and acquaintances. Of course, this is a difficult situation, and you can't bring your life to the point where the game becomes so important.
Yes, that's right, especially if he doesn't have a family to support so there are no thoughts to share for his family and personal life, it's all about mindset if he thinks gambling is for fun maybe he won't trigger a gambling addiction in himself but if he gambles just to make money, obviously it will be difficult to stop him, because it is possible that the money he has used while gambling has run out so he is obsessed with chasing his losses and recovering them in any way and gambling all the time.

Everyone must limit their budget when gambling because if without a budget, gambling will still be reckless and irresponsible, that's why gambling is important to have limits so that it becomes an alarm reminder to stop gambling, he must know that there are something fun out there besides gambling, for example other, more positive hobbies or just hanging out with family so that you can make gambling more just entertainment, not something that has to be done regularly, that really doesn't help, the tip for that person is to let it go until he finds his saturation point which will later make him he thought to himself that he had wasted a lot of his time and money on unnecessary gambling.

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January 31, 2024, 12:12:08 PM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
Having a source of income does not mean that you are safe from the risk of gambling addiction, there's still risk involved because the temptation to lose control of your betting is still there, although there is no pressure to win because you have an income to support your family, there's a possibility that the income will be redirected to betting or allocate more to gamble.

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No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
That's one of the worst that can happen, because of this your friend needs to get a loan to pay his bills and if this happens there will be discomfort at home because you cannot support the family's needs and money from your friend's source of income will go to paying loans.

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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
I think you need to talk to his family he will listen to his family when the family's welfare is at stake the gambler will always listen, you need to urge him to ask for professional help, only a professional can laid out a plan or steps to help him overcome his addiction.

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January 31, 2024, 02:03:53 PM
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
There is no particular age at which you can be considered capable of making correct decisions when it comes to gambling, Age is never a consideration. You did not mention if he already has a family. If he does, then it's a major concern for his family. However, if he is single and only earning for himself, the least you can do is to keep advising him and attempt to talk him out of it. Taking or leading him to a new interest so you can shift his focus away from gambling is a good idea.
You can get him involved in sports or help him meet a girl for a date the idea is to give him a new interest, so his focus is not only on gambling.
When I was very active in betting in fiestas and losing a lot of money my friend helped me overcome this by introducing me to the sport of chess It is a mind game but it will strengthen your control and you will learn how to think clearly.

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