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February 02, 2024, 07:08:01 AM
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I'm sorry but in those cases I prefer to stay away, unless it's your brother or a case like that. It has to be the person who makes a conscious decision about it, which they usually only do after they have hit rock bottom.

I hope it's easy to stay away when you are addicted with gambling, some people might be able to do that but there are also some that wouldn't stop until they lose everything they have. That kind of addiction is probably worse but it could happen to anyone of us if we don't have the discipline, like gambling thinking that there's no tomorrow, and doesn't want to stop gambling when losing, this kind of attitude will bring us to sure disaster.

If people in that addiction state then for sure they can't stay away as easy as we think since the feeling is really different since they always find the feeling to gamble since if they can't do any gambling activity they feel bored and find way just to gamble. This is the reason why gambling addiction is destructive since gambling addicted gamblers cannot help theirselves to stop what they are doing since they always urge to gamble that's why usually they don't easily quit and encounter those huge lose that we can't imagine.

This is how those unimaginable crimes happened since some of them commit a crime just to get money to fulfill their gambling hobbies since they feel so restless if they can't gamble even in single hour of the day. That's why its really important to discipline ourselves and always know our priorities to avoid getting into worse situation and can still perform healthy gambling habbits.

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February 02, 2024, 02:15:04 PM
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To me, the problem starts when the person has taken gambling as another source of income. With a belief like that he would want to win from gambling at all cost.
You can get money through gambling, but that doesn't make it a source of income. An income has to be payment for a work you did. Money from gambling is not an income.

If as a person you want other sources of income, get an investment, expand your business, start another business, or get a skill so you can earn from that skill.  You can also get a second or third job if your schedule permits you.
My point is, do whatever you have to do to have another source of income and grow(legally of course) but don't ever think gambling can be another source of income.
Having a source of income that is not even steady is not good enough

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February 02, 2024, 02:21:23 PM
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help him convince him that allocating all his money to gambling is a bad idea, tell him that making money is very difficult, how could he be willing to waste it on gambling, he won't move if he doesn't stop gambling

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February 02, 2024, 10:17:13 PM
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help him convince him that allocating all his money to gambling is a bad idea, tell him that making money is very difficult, how could he be willing to waste it on gambling, he won't move if he doesn't stop gambling
He must be able to express the fact that gambling by allocating all his money will not guarantee he can win and is a bad idea. He must learn ways to allocate a certain amount of money and use it to gamble properly to avoid losing a lot. If not, besides losing more money, he also has the potential to keep returning to gambling to try to recover his losses, and that means he could become addicted to gambling. When he is addicted to gambling, he will not realize that he has gone too far in gambling and really needs help to get out of his gambling addiction. Before it's too late, we can help him by telling him the truth about gambling so he can realize it.

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February 02, 2024, 10:29:38 PM
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To me, the problem starts when the person has taken gambling as another source of income. With a belief like that he would want to win from gambling at all cost.
You can get money through gambling, but that doesn't make it a source of income. An income has to be payment for a work you did. Money from gambling is not an income.

If as a person you want other sources of income, get an investment, expand your business, start another business, or get a skill so you can earn from that skill.  You can also get a second or third job if your schedule permits you.
My point is, do whatever you have to do to have another source of income and grow(legally of course) but don't ever think gambling can be another source of income.
Having a source of income that is not even steady is not good enough
That's why lots of gamblers need to carry out some research on ways to deal with gambling targets and goals. Since not all targets can be reached, some could be very hard to win, due to the impossible chances of achieving it in gambling. Starting out gambling with no strong information about the required skills and strategies needed to stay safe in the game, a gambler could be risking not only his money, but his precious time in gambling. Seeing a side hustle possibility in gambling is not achievable. Because the income won't be stable, and the gambler can be spending more money from his mainstream of income to finance the gambling habit. Hence the player who chooses such option in gambling is not making the right decision. Circumstances like not having anybody to discuss gambling with or places to read about gambling news, has left some people uninformed about the Dos and don'ts in gambling.

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February 02, 2024, 10:52:54 PM
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
That's literally how everyone who is new into gambling thinks well atleast the one's that really don't see that they are diving into a deep pool that will make them get twisted  and at end up ruin their life. Gambling is supposed to be enjoyed and anything other than that is totally a death trap so if I were the one that continue gambling and nothing seems to be showing for it then it probably best to actually stop the act and focus the energy elsewhere but that seems to be hardest thing to do for some gamblers.

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February 02, 2024, 11:12:50 PM
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That's literally how everyone who is new into gambling thinks well atleast the one's that really don't see that they are diving into a deep pool that will make them get twisted  and at end up ruin their life. Gambling is supposed to be enjoyed and anything other than that is totally a death trap so if I were the one that continue gambling and nothing seems to be showing for it then it probably best to actually stop the act and focus the energy elsewhere but that seems to be hardest thing to do for some gamblers.
The only time you may not enjoy gambling well enough as you should will be when you gamble for the purpose of making money and not for entertainment as it should be, at this point, the possibilities of getting ruined becomes very paramount as you may gamble irresponsibly especially when you loosing.

Gambling is supposed to be enjoyed a.d seem as entertainment but when some newbies gamble and they are fortunate to win I'm their first trial, they most likely see it as a money making venture a d forget it was actually for entertainment and the worse of it has to be when they see that others won huge amounts gambling, it makes them feel its a job and they too can change their financial status gambling only to end up getting ruined at some point and they will go ahead to blame it on gambling meanwhile their greed got the most part of them actually.

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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
It's difficult to recover someone if addicted to gambling, the only way is through to a psychologist, but it's also not a guarantee will be completely cured if there are still people gambling around him, he will return to gambling if he can easily access the gambling site. So if I were you, I'd just let it be, what most important thing is I have to keep avoiding to meeting him. maybe if you really care about him, just direct him to play games on Android with not real money to play gambling games.

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February 03, 2024, 05:32:35 PM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.

Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

Yea, some people just bump into gambling without proper research, some of them feel that there us something into this gambling of a thing and this because they won't have proper knowledge or information about gambling, this set of persons are lavishing in addiction.
Addiction has death with many people due to lack if interest on the beginners side to make much enquiry before involving fully in gambling, must addiction today has been triggered by either losing or winning, when some gamble lose, they chase after their loss in so doing, they get into the main thing fully this is also applicable when they win too.

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February 03, 2024, 05:49:19 PM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
This is one thing about people who gambles they always felt or thought that the money is always there or is regularly coming without knowing hit jackpot is one in a blue moon and needs to be properly taking care of any one they won otherwise they could still end up spending their entire money back to that same casino again, when they hit huge amount they should think of what to do with the money not to remain empty or lacking and wanting since it seems that any amount gotten from gambling doesn't always last and I don't know if someone else also noticed that as well.

i think, gamblers know their chances in gambling. they are only in denial that the chance here is good. because we all know that gambling is gambling and we know that if you are playing in regular casino games, luck is always part of the equation. your chance of winning is quite increasing if you happen to dedicate your skills in sports betting or poker game.

To me i don't see if their chance of winning is increasing why because someone who doesn't gamble regularly might just involved in slot game and made fortune out of his or her life while those who has been gambling for decades has not made anything tangible thing from gambling and sometimes it looks very funny to see how gambling works because we can't actually predicts whom to win or whom to lose the game. You would see some people that has wasted their money striving harder to make sure they have made little winning from gambling yet nothing and even as that they still keeps trying their luck for winning.
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If this person in question keeps insisting and he can't resist such urge then this might be difficult to handle. I believe people like this also want to change cause there's no life for him if he keeps continuing like this.
In my opinion let him learn the hard way so he will change for good, you can't force anyone to change their lifestyle neither the way they think so he should learn his lessons by himself.
You can't actually change him but you can introduce an investment that can help in terms of storing wealth for future purpose. People like this should always have an investment for future purpose cause they lack the idea to save.
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February 03, 2024, 07:51:16 PM
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his life will be in vain if he continues to maintain his habit, if he wants to change his life he must really stop gambling or as long as he thinks that gambling is just entertainment, there is no need to spend a lot of money on gambling he will rise from his downturn, but if he thinks that by gambling his money will be doubled he will continue to decline

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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

There is a way to help him but first, he need to help him self by understanding that he need to do research before you do anything in life. Unless he is been course or lack what gambling is about, I don't think it will make send for an adult to hustle for 30 days only to waste everything on gambling, like he isn't stress for doing that? He doesn't have responsibilities or bills to pay, he might have another way of having money to east and do other stuffs else I don't think a grown up person will do something these crazy and will repeat the same thing.

If you can help me, sit him down and spank his head with some advice, tell him how gambling is meant to be done, if possible give him a formula and percentage of Bankroll he should use a month before gambling. If he is serious about his life, he is going to change and if he is not ready, I don't think you can change his orientation and views of gambling. He will sort it out own his own but them a lot of damage would have been done or more losses.

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February 17, 2024, 10:38:40 AM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

This shows more signs of an addicted irresponsible gambler. A gambler that has no source of income but consistently uses the little he has to gamble is irresponsible and has failed to plan well for him self. Before you engage yourself in gambling activities, you should be able to provide other important things to survive for your self or your family as gambling most times can be draining and most your the funds your put in to it may end up being lost.

Again, spending so much of your earnings or salary on gambling also is a sign of irresponsibility as you have also failed to plan. Gambling is for fun, some people consider it as just a games the play at their leisure while some consider it as something they do often. If we use this mind set. And play more, we will end up spending too much on our gambling activities and less on most important aspects of our life.

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February 17, 2024, 05:47:06 PM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

This shows more signs of an addicted irresponsible gambler. A gambler that has no source of income but consistently uses the little he has to gamble is irresponsible and has failed to plan well for him self. Before you engage yourself in gambling activities, you should be able to provide other important things to survive for your self or your family as gambling most times can be draining and most your the funds your put in to it may end up being lost.

Again, spending so much of your earnings or salary on gambling also is a sign of irresponsibility as you have also failed to plan. Gambling is for fun, some people consider it as just a games the play at their leisure while some consider it as something they do often. If we use this mind set. And play more, we will end up spending too much on our gambling activities and less on most important aspects of our life.
Signs of problem gambling appear when it becomes a priority. Too many times, gaming devours resources that should have gone to more important purposes.

Your argument about gambling without a steady income resonates. Trying to fill a bucket with a hole at the bottom is like that. No amount of effort is enough. Remember, odds are usually against us. They claim the house always wins.

You're right about appropriate planning. Essential needs should never be sacrificed for gambling. A harsh but necessary fact. People trapped in this loop should seek help since it shows strength and self-awareness.

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February 17, 2024, 05:58:23 PM
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

This shows more signs of an addicted irresponsible gambler. A gambler that has no source of income but consistently uses the little he has to gamble is irresponsible and has failed to plan well for him self. Before you engage yourself in gambling activities, you should be able to provide other important things to survive for your self or your family as gambling most times can be draining and most your the funds your put in to it may end up being lost.

Again, spending so much of your earnings or salary on gambling also is a sign of irresponsibility as you have also failed to plan. Gambling is for fun, some people consider it as just a games the play at their leisure while some consider it as something they do often. If we use this mind set. And play more, we will end up spending too much on our gambling activities and less on most important aspects of our life.
Signs of problem gambling appear when it becomes a priority. Too many times, gaming devours resources that should have gone to more important purposes.

Your argument about gambling without a steady income resonates. Trying to fill a bucket with a hole at the bottom is like that. No amount of effort is enough. Remember, odds are usually against us. They claim the house always wins.

You're right about appropriate planning. Essential needs should never be sacrificed for gambling. A harsh but necessary fact. People trapped in this loop should seek help since it shows strength and self-awareness.
It is normal to expect for profit from gambling but as you guys have mentioned, we have no control of gambling outcome. Anticipating odds being against us or the fact that losing is more often to happen will be enough for us to always be mindful of the amount we will be betting. You could be profitable in some days but expect losing bets afterwards because no such thing exist as consistency especially winning in gambling. No research will help you increase the chance of winning especially with casino games.  Many people or gamblers are even coming up to the point that they would sell some of their properties to aid the loss and debt resulted from gambling. If he has been too impulsive of his money due to this industry then he's for sure needing professional help. Never wait for worse situations that may take place eventually if things won't be properly managed or stopped.

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No research will help you increase the chance of winning especially with casino games.  Many people or gamblers are even coming up to the point that they would sell some of their properties to aid the loss and debt resulted from gambling. If he has been too impulsive of his money due to this industry then he's for sure needing professional help. Never wait for worse situations that may take place eventually if things won't be properly managed or stopped.
Why is it impossible, every research done will have a chance even if it is a gamble.
Like the casino game Domino, Poker is a card game that requires concentration and analysis on the cards owned and held by the opponent.
When able to guess the various scenarios of cards that will come out, then we can already guess how the game goes.

No research is in vain when you are already an expert, all will provide opportunities, even if only a few percent.

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February 17, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
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If this person in question keeps insisting and he can't resist such urge then this might be difficult to handle. I believe people like this also want to change cause there's no life for him if he keeps continuing like this.
In my opinion let him learn the hard way so he will change for good, you can't force anyone to change their lifestyle neither the way they think so he should learn his lessons by himself.
You can't actually change him but you can introduce an investment that can help in terms of storing wealth for future purpose. People like this should always have an investment for future purpose cause they lack the idea to save.

Knowing that every individual has their own duties and obligations with respect to the choices they make and also understanding the ramifications of these choices is a significant stage in assisting someone who is grappling with issues in gambling and life. Moreover, transforming one’s mindset and lifestyle cannot be an easy task to perform; it can only be achieved through knowledge and exposure.

On the subject of investment, storing wealth is one of the good uses of investment. Certainly, this can help someone understand how important it is to plan for the future and manage finances well.

his life will be in vain if he continues to maintain his habit, if he wants to change his life he must really stop gambling or as long as he thinks that gambling is just entertainment, there is no need to spend a lot of money on gambling he will rise from his downturn, but if he thinks that by gambling his money will be doubled he will continue to decline

If the gambling he does is only an obstacle to his achievement, then deciding to stop gambling activities is a quite wise decision. and it is indeed a wrong perception that gambling can provide benefits and can change a person's life for the better financially.

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February 17, 2024, 06:30:26 PM
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Before diving into anything new, it's wise to take a step back and conduct some research. This preliminary investigation helps us gain a clear understanding of what we're getting ourselves into, thereby minimizing the risk of failure and the potential for addiction, especially in the realm of gambling.

Observing the situation, it appears that he hasn't yet developed a severe addiction, leaving room for intervention and support before the situation worsens. It's unwise for individuals to exhaust their entire income on gambling, leaving insufficient funds for essential family expenses. Making prudent decisions regarding gambling is essential to avoid such predicaments affecting our friends.

If you're looking to provide assistance, a consistent reminder of the potential losses associated with excessive gambling can serve as a helpful intervention strategy. By emphasizing the negative consequences of depleting finances through gambling, we can encourage more responsible behavior and discourage harmful habits.

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February 17, 2024, 08:07:06 PM
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He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.

Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
The guy in the OP is just addicted and that has made him senseless in his dealings. Someone who is working so hard all day and will only waste everything on gambling, this is pathetic and I believe that his whole orientation about gambling has to change. He needs to find a way to heal himself, and the fact that he has been talking about something telling him to always gamble when he didn't want to do it calls for extra concern. I advise the guy to take a break from gambling, his issue is more than a mere addition, this is deeply rooted in him and makes him look so stupid as he gambles. He positions his mind towards the money he would make from it, but instead continues to lose money.

That is enough reason to talk sense to this guy, he needs to change that mindset. I don't believe anyone who is not so budgetary and disciplined towards gambling can be doing a thing like that. This is what he should first realize, and the moment he accepts that something is wrong with him, he will be able to change the narrative to his advantage. He should take a long break from gambling and return later. But if the issue persists after that, he might consider quitting for a long time period of time. But in this case, finding other earning purposes that are not about gambling is good. This might solve the issue since money is the main motive of his gambling. By securing another means to make the money, he could be cured.

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