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May 22, 2024, 06:33:06 AM
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The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.
I completely agree with you. Trying to get rich quick through gambling can be very dangerous for people who are already struggling. Poor people are mostly tempted by promise of easy money but they end up losing even more and getting stuck in cycle of addiction and financial problems. Gambling can be very hard to stop and people may keep trying to win back what they lost even if it means losing even more. Rich people who can afford to gamble do so responsibly and don't rely on it to make living. This shows how important it is to address root causes of poverty and provide help and education to break cycle of gambling addiction.

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May 22, 2024, 12:00:24 PM
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If you dont have self-control, it will chew you up and spit you out whether you're making a lot of money or just getting by. Trust me, I've seen it for myself. It doesnt matter how much money you have; the odds are against you from the start. Its true that the house always wins.

I get it; the thrill of the game and the chance to make money quickly are appealing. But thats where the smart people and the not-so-smart people split. People who are smart know the trick and know that they will lose in the long run, so they leave. They know that the best way to win is to keep their hard-earned cash and not risk it on a roll of the dice.
Yes, that will makes us lose our money without have a chance to makes money and that losses will becomes big if you still not realizes what happens to you. I have that experienced before so I don't wants to have the same experience again and I am trying to learn self control more than before. The house will wins and we can't do anything except waiting for our turn to wins but not for wins big money.

The thrill of the game can tempts us to keeps playing gambling without stops gambling and that's the reason why we can lose more money. Many people doesn't see this as a problems because they feels that they can gets their money back by winning the games. But the truth is they will still difficult to gets the money. Rich or poor gamblers doesn't have to risks more, especially if they wants to limits their gambling activity as they knows the risks and consequences of playing gambling.

In gambling, rich and poor both have the choice to take risks, they cannot differentiate between each other, neither the probability nor the risk to control it. The essence of gambling is no longer rich or poor, maybe both can bet different amounts, win differently, and can bet again at different moments, but who should take the bigger risk? Even poor gamblers actually know that when they take a big risk, there is only one chance to get out, namely to win because if they lose then they will lose everything. Meanwhile, those who are rich have 2 chances, if they lose they can bet again and if they win they can increase their bet.
Rich and poor gamblers have the same risks so they must have control themselves when they playing gambling to avoids the big lose. No matter if that's difficult, they must control because that's the only chance to avoids the lose and they can still enjoy their time to playing gambling. People who gets the bigger risks are people who can't control themselves in gambling and still use more money to gambling and they will gets the bigger risks. But people who can control themselves will not see the risks becomes bigger because they knows how to holds themselves in gambling. They only wants to enjoy playing gambling using limits money and will not chase the wins because they knows that's difficult for them. If poor gamblers can knows about this and can limits themselves, they will not lose much money and they can still playing gambling in the other days.

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May 22, 2024, 12:26:28 PM
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The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.
I completely agree with you. Trying to get rich quick through gambling can be very dangerous for people who are already struggling. Poor people are mostly tempted by promise of easy money but they end up losing even more and getting stuck in cycle of addiction and financial problems. Gambling can be very hard to stop and people may keep trying to win back what they lost even if it means losing even more. Rich people who can afford to gamble do so responsibly and don't rely on it to make living. This shows how important it is to address root causes of poverty and provide help and education to break cycle of gambling addiction.

If they can use their mindset and common sense properly then I think it is unlikely for them to make such a decision, or I mean it is unlikely for them to make gambling a place to earn, because if you think logically and from a rational point of view then you will find that the idea of earning in gambling will never seem reasonable, because surely you will think that gambling is nothing more than a game of probability that has absolutely no guarantee and certainty to always be able to earn so it clearly means that the results at the end of the session will be random and can never be what we want. '

In addition, there is always the possibility of risk that can occur at any time when someone is away from the name of luck, but yes in fact we can see that there are still many gamblers who try to make gambling a place to earn by realizing the chances of winning into reality, and yes I agree that rich people mostly make gambling a place of pleasure and not a place to earn.

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May 22, 2024, 12:35:39 PM
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Gambling is for everyone of course. The casinos want the entire world to be gambling with them.

But, usually, it is the poorer who would end up gambling more times than the rich people.

The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.
I agree rich people have a lot of money they usually think it's a source of entertainment gambling and if they lose they don't mind re betting. Rich people bet to spend their free time most of the poor people consider gambling as a source of earning money so they stay poor and lose everything and become depressed. Poor people should never consider gambling as a source of earning money as no one can give exact guarantee of winning here.
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May 22, 2024, 01:04:27 PM
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The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.
I completely agree with you. Trying to get rich quick through gambling can be very dangerous for people who are already struggling. Poor people are mostly tempted by promise of easy money but they end up losing even more and getting stuck in cycle of addiction and financial problems. Gambling can be very hard to stop and people may keep trying to win back what they lost even if it means losing even more. Rich people who can afford to gamble do so responsibly and don't rely on it to make living. This shows how important it is to address root causes of poverty and provide help and education to break cycle of gambling addiction.

A very bad impressions with gambling, there are many poor gamblers who got this kind of mentality, thinking that if luck permits they will quickly earn a lot and change their lives, unfortunately instead of making money most of the time they just bring that money inside the house and let the owners enjoy, there are some who manage to make decent but more on the losing side, as we see there are many new gambling house that keeps on opening from time to time.

With rich gamblers who can control their emotions it's easier for them play and stop even they lose some they know and threat it as payment for having some fun, while with poor gamblers, they will continue to hope for luck to back them up as they treat gambling as source of funds.

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May 22, 2024, 04:34:54 PM
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Gambling is for everyone of course. The casinos want the entire world to be gambling with them.

But, usually, it is the poorer who would end up gambling more times than the rich people.

The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.

we probably know really different people
many of the people I know, poor or rich, have really different risk aversion profiles
it's interesting to see how this is a bit separate than their total bankroll or total wealth
some people won't be interested in gambling no matter what you say
some people will have a 100% sure bet that they can bet as much as they want and will be once or twice

the interesting thing about humans is that we aren't predictable 100% of the time

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May 23, 2024, 02:59:47 AM
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Gambling is for everyone of course. The casinos want the entire world to be gambling with them.

But, usually, it is the poorer who would end up gambling more times than the rich people.

The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.

we probably know really different people
many of the people I know, poor or rich, have really different risk aversion profiles
it's interesting to see how this is a bit separate than their total bankroll or total wealth
some people won't be interested in gambling no matter what you say
some people will have a 100% sure bet that they can bet as much as they want and will be once or twice

the interesting thing about humans is that we aren't predictable 100% of the time

You are right, we have friends and people who think differently and when playing have very different criteria, some who are poor don't mind running out of money because they only care about playing or feeling the adrenaline, because the first time a friend was like that it was like that. a casino, he spent his entire salary going to the casino just once, it was incredible how he bet so much money on a gamble and lost it and it didn't hurt him at all , so I would say that there are people who perhaps have no obligation, children, wife They don't care, but I couldn't do something like that, and even if I had no obligation I wouldn't do it either, there are very different people in the world.

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I have rich and poor friends also. And I would say, that those who are rich, make reckless things less, but those who are poor, have lower respect to money. Then always make financial difficulties themselves due to poor money management. From offline casino visit observations, I can say that those friends who can afford to bet a lot of money, place less risky bets and the same amount that others place. When everyone place 5 EUR, they also do that. They dont throw 50 EUR bill everywhere. I can say that they are modest.

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I have rich and poor friends also. And I would say, that those who are rich, make reckless things less, but those who are poor, have lower respect to money. Then always make financial difficulties themselves due to poor money management. From offline casino visit observations, I can say that those friends who can afford to bet a lot of money, place less risky bets and the same amount that others place. When everyone place 5 EUR, they also do that. They dont throw 50 EUR bill everywhere. I can say that they are modest.
I think i agree with your statement to some point and I'll add that both the rich and poor takes risk but the poor individuals are known for taking uncalculated risks, i mean a rich man could risk money and still have something to fall back to but some poor individuals would risk all they got and end up losing everything. A good number of rich men won't risk everything they got to gambling cause they're already made.

 Well, except the rich individual is greedy or addicted to gambling but it's rare, but then most poor individuals, especially those who see gambling as a source of making a fortune would always risk the little they got on different occasions just to get out of poverty,  i heard talks about how most poor people spend all they had on gambling and end up getting depressed and embark on suicidal attempts.

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I have rich and poor friends also. And I would say, that those who are rich, make reckless things less, but those who are poor, have lower respect to money. Then always make financial difficulties themselves due to poor money management. From offline casino visit observations, I can say that those friends who can afford to bet a lot of money, place less risky bets and the same amount that others place. When everyone place 5 EUR, they also do that. They dont throw 50 EUR bill everywhere. I can say that they are modest.
I also have some poor friends who still gamble. They don't seem to care about the money they should use to meet their living needs. They are increasingly immersed in gambling games to the point that they have to borrow money from friends. Even though they can always pay their debts, they shouldn't do that and I have too often given them advice but they haven't listened to it. The poor friend shouldn't have taken such a big risk by betting big money but they didn't listen. But I can still say they were lucky because they could win, even though it was only enough to pay off their debt. But they are starting to reduce the number of bets and are willing to listen to my advice and that of other friends.
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Gambling is for everyone of course. The casinos want the entire world to be gambling with them.

But, usually, it is the poorer who would end up gambling more times than the rich people.

The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.

we probably know really different people
many of the people I know, poor or rich, have really different risk aversion profiles
it's interesting to see how this is a bit separate than their total bankroll or total wealth
some people won't be interested in gambling no matter what you say
some people will have a 100% sure bet that they can bet as much as they want and will be once or twice

the interesting thing about humans is that we aren't predictable 100% of the time

You are right, we have friends and people who think differently and when playing have very different criteria, some who are poor don't mind running out of money because they only care about playing or feeling the adrenaline, because the first time a friend was like that it was like that. a casino, he spent his entire salary going to the casino just once, it was incredible how he bet so much money on a gamble and lost it and it didn't hurt him at all , so I would say that there are people who perhaps have no obligation, children, wife They don't care, but I couldn't do something like that, and even if I had no obligation I wouldn't do it either, there are very different people in the world.


same way with trading
you have no idea of other people's size of bankroll, risk appetite, timing for exits and entries, if they're careless or not with their positions
it's a crazy world out there and the best way is learning your own way as you go.

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The poor people want to become rich and they think they can get their quickly by gambling but they end up losing more money than they thought they will be winning, many people are getting frustrated daily because they are not succeeding at gambling and they cannot stop gambling instead they are trying to win back their losses. Gambling has an addiction effect and those that get addicted find it very hard to stop gambling in spite of all the negative feedback that they are getting from gambling like losing their money and self respect. I think the poor people are those that are gambling more and spending more money in gambling and this is why they are still very poor. The rich people  are also gambling but since they do not depend on gambling for making money, they are not always gambling.
I completely agree with you. Trying to get rich quick through gambling can be very dangerous for people who are already struggling. Poor people are mostly tempted by promise of easy money but they end up losing even more and getting stuck in cycle of addiction and financial problems. Gambling can be very hard to stop and people may keep trying to win back what they lost even if it means losing even more. Rich people who can afford to gamble do so responsibly and don't rely on it to make living. This shows how important it is to address root causes of poverty and provide help and education to break cycle of gambling addiction.
I think the poor are willing to take those risk no matter how much they lose. Being poor alone is a loss in this life and if you choose to opt out of the poor gang then you have to be willing to take actions that the rich would. If you observe what could the little money in the poor mans hand possibly afford him. Is it a car, a house or a good business. Its obvious that he can only afford something within his level, like a book, a pen, transport fare and manageable meal to eat. This is why some people prefers using their last money at hand to gamble rather than using it to eat and after some hours they are broke and hungry again. The risk is high for poor people but its worth it sometimes. I will only advice that when it comes to health and family the poor should take care of these things as they are priority first before taking any high risk when they are gambling.

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Well, you have really explained a lot about it and I think you’re right There are different class of gambling and different class of human. Yes, there is some people that is extremely rich if they scramble and lose money, it doesn’t affect them they can go to the other hand, and fix them self back Without any desk stop and some don’t even have at all after everything and they will notice they have gambled away a lot



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Well, you have really explained a lot about it and I think you’re right There are different class of gambling and different class of human. Yes, there is some people that is extremely rich if they scramble and lose money, it doesn’t affect them they can go to the other hand, and fix them self back Without any desk stop and some don’t even have at all after everything and they will notice they have gambled away a lot

it's crazy because sometimes we make decisions without being fully aware of what we are doing by that time and when the consequences come and hit us in our faces we are a bit lost and since we weren't aware it's not 100% of the times we can reconstruct our decision process and analyze where we got it wrong

to sharpen this process I like to write and read what I wrote from time to time, really good practice for the head.

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I think the poor are willing to take those risk no matter how much they lose. Being poor alone is a loss in this life and if you choose to opt out of the poor gang then you have to be willing to take actions that the rich would. If you observe what could the little money in the poor mans hand possibly afford him. Is it a car, a house or a good business. Its obvious that he can only afford something within his level, like a book, a pen, transport fare and manageable meal to eat. This is why some people prefers using their last money at hand to gamble rather than using it to eat and after some hours they are broke and hungry again. The risk is high for poor people but its worth it sometimes. I will only advice that when it comes to health and family the poor should take care of these things as they are priority first before taking any high risk when they are gambling.
The risk is so high for a poor gambler just as it is for the rich. The need to be a better gambler has nothing to do with funds. Most rich players think of themselves safe due to the amount of money on their bankroll but still stand the risk of losing more money. Low income players only have to lose out little amount of money which is dear to them and would have been used for other financial responsibilities.

Such thoughts is what affects the low income player towards making mistakes. He would think of gaining back the funds. The rich gambler or high roller has some money to fall back to if he runs short of money. Unlike a low income player who would run to get loan for gambling. Also remember that every gambler takes loan including the rich. The stress of it is backup which is what the low income player doesn't have. Going risky financially is a thing both rich and poor players shouldn't enjoy doing.

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Well, you have really explained a lot about it and I think you’re right There are different class of gambling and different class of human. Yes, there is some people that is extremely rich if they scramble and lose money, it doesn’t affect them they can go to the other hand, and fix them self back Without any desk stop and some don’t even have at all after everything and they will notice they have gambled away a lot

One of the things that makes the rich have a stronger defense than the poor is that they have a lot of money and also they already have many ways to make money so as to make them rich, while for the poor one or two defeats maybe it can make them suffer or can make them unable to eat all day because there is no other money they have to use. But actually everything comes back to how they treat gambling itself, if for example they gamble in a way that tends to always overdo it and do not apply any limits to their gambling activities then obviously no matter how rich you are in the end you will definitely go bankrupt and lose a lot of money and this possibility applies to all gamblers regardless of rich or poor. So of course in the end in gambling we cannot fully say that rich people are free from various bad possibilities because as we know everyone has lust and usually a gambler will not stop gambling before they run out of all their money when controlled by emotions.

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May 27, 2024, 08:50:25 AM
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Well, you have really explained a lot about it and I think you’re right There are different class of gambling and different class of human. Yes, there is some people that is extremely rich if they scramble and lose money, it doesn’t affect them they can go to the other hand, and fix them self back Without any desk stop and some don’t even have at all after everything and they will notice they have gambled away a lot

The thing is that rich people can end up broke in the same amount of time that a poor person.

They both have the same odds, and the rich person has the ability to spend more per gambling instance.

So, if they have the same outcomes in every step, and the rich person has, say 100x more money than the poor person in the beginning, but bets 100x every step, then they both will lose all their money at the same time.

The odds are the same for everyone.

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May 27, 2024, 12:27:09 PM
 #798

Well, you have really explained a lot about it and I think you’re right There are different class of gambling and different class of human. Yes, there is some people that is extremely rich if they scramble and lose money, it doesn’t affect them they can go to the other hand, and fix them self back Without any desk stop and some don’t even have at all after everything and they will notice they have gambled away a lot

One of the things that makes the rich have a stronger defense than the poor is that they have a lot of money and also they already have many ways to make money so as to make them rich, while for the poor one or two defeats maybe it can make them suffer or can make them unable to eat all day because there is no other money they have to use. But actually everything comes back to how they treat gambling itself, if for example they gamble in a way that tends to always overdo it and do not apply any limits to their gambling activities then obviously no matter how rich you are in the end you will definitely go bankrupt and lose a lot of money and this possibility applies to all gamblers regardless of rich or poor. So of course in the end in gambling we cannot fully say that rich people are free from various bad possibilities because as we know everyone has lust and usually a gambler will not stop gambling before they run out of all their money when controlled by emotions.
The wealthy play differently. People don't fling money around like confetti. They strategize, hedge, and share risk. No slot machine, it's chess. They have amazing discipline, knowing when to quit, win or lose. Contrast with financially strapped people. They may gamble as a final resort to improve their lot. Adrenaline and desperation fuel that lethal game

Money isn't everything; experience is. Rush, exhilaration, short escape from daily life. Everyone can relate, rich or poor. So, the lesson? Be responsible when gambling. Limits, walking away, and treating it like leisure, not a financial strategy. It's about the ride, not the money. It's that natural need to try, embrace the unknown, and change things up. All of us need that, regardless of our finances

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May 27, 2024, 01:32:12 PM
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There are risks in gambling and that risk varies from person to person depending on the rich and the poor. But as far as I know a rich man has plenty of money so he doesn't think any risk in gambling. Since the rich man has no shortage of money, he has no fear of bankruptcy even if he loses a gambling bet but does not face any financial disaster in his family. On the other hand, a poor person is financially unwell and it becomes very difficult for him to collect the money that he will bet on gambling. As a poor person cannot borrow and risk gambling or take a loan from a bank to gamble. In both cases, he has a lot of risk, especially if he borrows money from the bank, the bank can declare him bankrupt at any time if he is unable to repay the money on time. Moreover, a poor man is reluctant to provide family support, in this case, managing gambling money becomes a very difficult challenge for him to bet on gambling.

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May 29, 2024, 04:23:34 AM
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same way with trading
you have no idea of other people's size of bankroll, risk appetite, timing for exits and entries, if they're careless or not with their positions
it's a crazy world out there and the best way is learning your own way as you go.
That is why in both trading and gaming I have a premise, I always play with the money you are willing to spend, from there no more , but that is something that we must establish from the Beginning and have a lot of discipline to Comply with what we insist , there is no point in Making a risk Plan , and then we start to fail to comply with them, it is always Necessary to do the right thing, that is why always working with our money is a double-edged sword, for money and it only makes us live in a casino and in a exchange when it comes to speculating in the market, and a bad play cannot make us lose, and sometimes a good play can make us win but little money , that is why here, both in trading and in gaming , perseverance and patience are rewarded, as well as control of our money.


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