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February 12, 2024, 07:38:13 PM
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Do what makes your life comfortable, in harmony with everything around you, family, children... because each person only lives once. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about relationships that come with benefits, or call it a draw. Money and property are important, but it cannot be denied that the family needs to stick together. The wedding is an important thing, with this I do not support your approach of letting the wife wait and what she feels, her psychology, criticism and looking at her. Remember that when you have any problems, it is your wife and family who care for you, not someone else, or something else, respect what is meaningful to your life
In the life we live, of course we have to be able to run it well and we have to feel comfortable with what we live and not be a burden so that we can't live life well and we see a lot of people who do too much work to be able to get a high income. so they don't have time to enjoy happiness with their family. Of course they won't be able to enjoy life with their family because they are too busy so it is very rare to be able to gather with their family.

That's right, we have a thirst to appreciate the family we have because it is impossible for other people to care about our situation if we experience difficulties, of course our closest family is the first to care about the difficulties we face and thanks to their support it will be easier for us to solve problems that we face.

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February 13, 2024, 07:55:24 AM
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Buddy. Firstly, there is no need to generalize that all women are only interested in entertainment or whatever else you have in mind. Secondly, you are not ready for marriage, since you do not understand that marriage is a union of two people, but if you are of the right orientation, a man is completely and entirely responsible for his family. This is a woman’s opinion, and believe me, we do not like greedy and stingy people, knowing full well that such individuals want to get married to get a maid.
As for your financial independence, while you are young, you can work several jobs; you should not rely on the rise of Bitcoin. Get moving and let the people around you have some joy in the form of the holidays. Stupid hoarding may one day lead to you being left alone but with your capital.

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February 13, 2024, 11:48:07 AM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I understand you very well, but be more clear to yourself mate, you are simply not ready for marriage and if you proceed just because of someone's opinion you will regret, only you knows you better, if you are not ready let the lady go, don't give promises you can't keep and don't waste someone else child time, tell them where you are heading and if they are fine with it they can follow.

Forget that women are attracted to pleasures, you as a man must be worth something before getting married, if you believe that I am wrong, think like you already have a daughter and you find out that her husband to be is someone in your present state, will you tell her to proceed?

I am from a country with bad economy and still I vowed to never get married until I made it, even when I fell in love with someone I couldn't do it, because I don't want them to suffer for my own failures and mistakes, running from marriage doesn't mean you are irresponsible, you aren't just ready it is, and I have seen many people that rushed into marriage, thinking since they are two heads things will get better gradually, they ended up rushing out of the marriages.

Depending on which country you are from, financially stable and a solid future foundation will make things easier for you, do not deceive yourself, look around you today, too many marriages are ugly because of financial problems, build a better foundation first before looking into marriage.

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February 13, 2024, 01:18:55 PM
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There are a few lessons in life that you learn very quickly & one of them is to do what is required to keep your woman happy. Obviously investing & preparing for the future is important but cancelling your wife's anniversary celebrations is not a good idea. Surely you can still buy Bitcoin & buy her a small gift or go out for dinner.

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February 13, 2024, 02:41:24 PM
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Do what makes your life comfortable, in harmony with everything around you, family, children... because each person only lives once. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about relationships that come with benefits, or call it a draw. Money and property are important, but it cannot be denied that the family needs to stick together. The wedding is an important thing, with this I do not support your approach of letting the wife wait and what she feels, her psychology, criticism and looking at her. Remember that when you have any problems, it is your wife and family who care for you, not someone else, or something else, respect what is meaningful to your life
In the life we live, of course we have to be able to run it well and we have to feel comfortable with what we live and not be a burden so that we can't live life well and we see a lot of people who do too much work to be able to get a high income. so they don't have time to enjoy happiness with their family. Of course they won't be able to enjoy life with their family because they are too busy so it is very rare to be able to gather with their family.

That's right, we have a thirst to appreciate the family we have because it is impossible for other people to care about our situation if we experience difficulties, of course our closest family is the first to care about the difficulties we face and thanks to their support it will be easier for us to solve problems that we face.
It's only easy to say but hard to do, however many wants it because after it they can now feel comfortable. With that said, there is still a struggle at first and if only that's how it works like we work too much to earn a very good pay, all of our efforts will pay off though sadly it's not how it works but we are still being paid small for all the hardworks that we have done to our boss.

Most workers still has their own rest days and this can be used to relax and bond with our families but even without it, working hard alone for our family, can be enough already to make us happy and they will also feel the same for us, yet sometimes there might be guilt and others that they can feel.

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February 13, 2024, 03:37:24 PM
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Look, getting hitched before you're rolling in dough isn't exactly unheard of. Some folks prioritize love, commitment, and building a life together, even if the bank account ain't overflowing. Others prefer to wait until they're financially secure. It's all about what works for you and your boo.

Now, being responsible with money is key, no matter if you're single, married, or juggling fire-breathing poodles. Talking openly about income, expenses, and goals is like financial foreplay – essential for a healthy relationship. Building an emergency fund and not blowing your whole paycheck on impulse buys? Those are life skills everyone should master.

Investing can be cool, but it ain't magic beans. There's always risk involved, and using your wedding fund as seed money is like betting on a one-legged unicorn race – risky business. Diversifying your portfolio and understanding your risk tolerance are like wearing a helmet when riding that unicorn – essential for a smooth ride. But hey, if you're gonna invest, seek professional advice first. Don't just wing it and hope for the best.

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February 13, 2024, 08:12:46 PM
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There are a few lessons in life that you learn very quickly & one of them is to do what is required to keep your woman happy. Obviously investing & preparing for the future is important but cancelling your wife's anniversary celebrations is not a good idea. Surely you can still buy Bitcoin & buy her a small gift or go out for dinner.
Anyone can make a woman happy, anyone can do it for their beloved woman and this will not be a problem for someone who really loves a woman, they will never think about the losses they have received and the most important thing for them is that they can make the woman they love happy. if we postpone our wife's birthday celebration just for the sake of investing, of course this will be very sad for them because no one gave them anything on their birthday of course this will make them sad and we can make a small celebration as best we can and will promise to replace it if we have get profits from investments.
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February 13, 2024, 08:53:48 PM
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I am not financially stable yet
Then why are you getting married when you know you are not financially stable? Marriage is not what you are just supposed to rush into, when you are getting married, you should be able to take care of your wife and children without even touching your crypto investment. Let’s just assume we are in a bear market and we are not expecting a bull run soon. If you decide to marry with your investment, then how will you feed yourself and your wife after the marriage? And even though we should have reserves in life, that we can fall back on in case anything happens you are already planning to use everything you have to marry.

so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going,
Right now that you have already cancelled your marriage, when are you planning to fix another date? When we are I n a bear market, or when? I guess you are not just ready to marry, if you are really ready, then you won’t cancel your wedding. Just talk to your wife, and you two can have a small wedding for which you are going to spend a little money.

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February 13, 2024, 11:43:42 PM
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It's an important point in your life, and IMO, it's not something that money can replace, at least in my understanding. It's best if you have separate funds for investments and for such matters. In this way, you are gaining on both of these aspects and not leaving the other behind. It's important to keep familial relations intact, too, and not just financial things since family is what's left when all of your money is gone.

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February 13, 2024, 11:59:33 PM
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Money is not the sole source of happiness in the world. Although it can contribute to someone’s happiness but it will never be completely enough. With this, I came to understand your wife’s point of view as she values more memorable events, but it does not mean that she is depriving you to make money on one side. Live a balanced life . Know when to pursue money making fast  and know when to take a slow move. Your wife is your most precious asset so always gives her more value than money.

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Bitcoin's bull-run is a fantastic chance, and hodling may appear like the best gamble. Keep in mind that wealth is meant to improve life, not just accumulate. Though reasonable, your approach is as frigid as a ledger balance. Relationships and life events? The actual investments bring delight, memories, and shared joy, which Bitcoin can't

Of course, saving and investing are vital in volatile markets. Take care not to let your ledger consume you. No gender bias. Focus on balance, understanding, and cooperation. Your wife's celebration is a demand for recognition and unity, not entertainment

Always remember that Bitcoin lives on community, consensus, and belief. Use those methods at home. Find balance. Possible approach to celebrate without derailing financial goals. Balanced life is the best portfolio

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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.

It is a weeding anniversary celebration; it is not that you want to get married; if I understand you clearly, it is what you have been doing over the years, or it is what you just want to start now. but you don't have money to celebrate it, and you don't want to sell the bitcoin you are holding because you don't want to miss this coming bull run opportunity because you have good expectations for it. I will say nothing bad about adjusting the wedding anniversary celebration to celebrate the next one, but the truth is that you shouldn't always depend on the profit you will make from your bitcoin investment; always try to have separate savings for emergencies and other stuff like this. not full assurance of anything volatile in nature, because anything can happen. Now that I assume it is an emergency, what will you do? Are you not going to sell the bitcoin?
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.

It will not be easy to understand it, but I believe with more explanation she may later understand you, but honestly, no one will be happy not to see the promise fulfilled because the wedding anniversary is just like a promise because it is what everyone will expect you to celebrate when the time comes. 

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February 16, 2024, 06:29:06 PM
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Sorry to say but this sounds very ridiculous, it clearly shows you are not yet ready to marry. Perhaps this should be a wakeup call for your would-be bride to make better decision  Cheesy
You should already know btc price will start to rise rapidly at some point and should not be enough reason to halt any real life event for.
I hope you can take advantage of the upcoming bull market because some people can get carried away during this period and ended up not doing as they intended.

Hahaha I do agree with what you just mentioned.

It does sound that OP is not financially stable and sound given that there are many decisions in which he is indecisive.

If you plan on marrying and settling OP, then you should be prepared to divide all of your wealth unless you sign a pre-nuptial agreement. If lack any form of stable income, then your marriage has a big chance of failing especially if only your soon-to-be wife provides for the family. If you are living mainly on the hopes of profiting from your investment, then you are clearly not ready for this kind of commitment.

Remember that while marrying may sound relatively easy, the life after marriage is what challenges most people. The expenses, the priorities, and the commitments that you have to sacrifice will definitely show; and currently it shows that you are not ready for that kind of life, OP.

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February 16, 2024, 09:27:36 PM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.


As women, we have a nature that really wants to be noticed and pampered, so it's actually not wrong if you celebrate your wedding anniversary with the cheapest possible concept.
you should know that marriage anniversaries happen once a year and we don't really feel special about our anniversaries, but wedding anniversaries are very special, just eating a small meal means a lot to us, don't assume that women those who are willing to accompany you do not understand your financial condition. in this case, you are wrong, i do not confirm your thoughts.



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February 17, 2024, 10:52:07 PM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I hope you enjoy being divorced because you may find yourself in that state soon enough, look I get it, when you look at things from such a point of view, your decision to cut down expenses like that may seem to make sense, but unless your significant other is onboard with the decision, the only thing you will accomplish is to strain your marriage over a dumb decision like that, it would have been better for you to try convince your wife to downsize a little bit and save some money instead of outright calling the whole thing off, because I can assure you this, maybe you will save yourself that money, but you are going to pay for this in some way or another as this is the kind of thing that never gets forgotten.

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February 17, 2024, 11:07:53 PM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.

You are already married and decisions like this needs to be taken sceptical. First of all, your wife knows you have some holdings in bitcoin and she prefer you to have the marriage ceremony than saving that money in bitcoin which you’re hoping for to make a good profit in the future. This is a marital issue and needs to be sought out by you guys and know which is priority over the other so that you don’t get to make your marriage life hard or full of misunderstandings with each other because of a small issue that is not worth been fighting about. If your wife knows what is bitcoin all about, she might agree to it but if she’s not, it’s her right that you need to provide for her to achieve all of her needs if you can afford it. Take your time, sit your wife down and you guys should sought yourselves out.

Secondly, what are you holding for in the first place? Wait, don't tell me you invest money meant for your marriage. Holding should have a goal to achieve. If your goal is to get married with it fine but if otherwise, I'll say you have no plans on ground. Moreover, invest with what you can afford to lose has been on a trend for as long as I can't remember and not investing with money meant for things like marriage. For instance, if bitcoin should go down to $0 dollar today, your marriage money is gone right? You have a long way to go.

You are mistaken and taken marriage anniversary as a new marriage. They are already married and the wife wants an anniversary for the wedding for how far they’ve spent together married I think. Bitcoin is meant to be invested in for the future but it shouldn’t be at the expense of not having an enjoyable life with you and your family. For instance I want an investment in bitcoin and have something important to do which when withheld can cause an increase in its price later, I would rather get that thing done and postpone my investment. It is the zeal to get to invest before bull run that matters and not the actual amount you’re able to invest before bull run and been living a life of discomfort to achieve your long term goals. Anytime you can invest before bull run is still okay and not stress yourself out to must have it when you can’t afford it at the time.

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February 18, 2024, 12:22:52 AM
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As women, we have a nature that really wants to be noticed and pampered, so it's actually not wrong if you celebrate your wedding anniversary with the cheapest possible concept.
you should know that marriage anniversaries happen once a year and we don't really feel special about our anniversaries, but wedding anniversaries are very special, just eating a small meal means a lot to us, don't assume that women those who are willing to accompany you do not understand your financial condition. in this case, you are wrong, i do not confirm your thoughts.
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Anyways, it is good to know that women like you who could find treasures on little things exists. My wife would never accept this plans of having a dinner out there in the name of fulfilling all righteousness of the event. She eventually said to me that why would I suggest we would just sit out for a drink and have some chops just like that? She demands that I should explain to her if is there something unique about the food out there comparing to the ones she cooks at home or do we have to go on a more expensive wine other than the one in the bar at home?
She basically want all that of a flamboyant ceremony where friends and families would be invited.
@Renampun, I guess this is been cleared that some of you women doesn't make demands or governs the family in a financial range of assisting the man economically. My wife is typically off from your house thoughts.

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February 18, 2024, 09:34:59 AM
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I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

Its just a simple advice but do whatever that makes you happy,if you're saying you can't celebrate with your wife on your anniversary,then why get married at first.Marriage is not a game,marriage is your life so every effort you put in to make your business or job to appease you,then put in 3 times of that pressure into sustaining your marriage.

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February 19, 2024, 06:43:00 AM
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Do what makes your life comfortable, in harmony with everything around you, family, children... because each person only lives once. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about relationships that come with benefits, or call it a draw. Money and property are important, but it cannot be denied that the family needs to stick together. The wedding is an important thing, with this I do not support your approach of letting the wife wait and what she feels, her psychology, criticism and looking at her. Remember that when you have any problems, it is your wife and family who care for you, not someone else, or something else, respect what is meaningful to your life
In the life we live, of course we have to be able to run it well and we have to feel comfortable with what we live and not be a burden so that we can't live life well and we see a lot of people who do too much work to be able to get a high income. so they don't have time to enjoy happiness with their family. Of course they won't be able to enjoy life with their family because they are too busy so it is very rare to be able to gather with their family.

That's right, we have a thirst to appreciate the family we have because it is impossible for other people to care about our situation if we experience difficulties, of course our closest family is the first to care about the difficulties we face and thanks to their support it will be easier for us to solve problems that we face.

of course everyone wants their life to be comfortable and secure but it can happen depending on us who run it and in my opinion this is easy to say but difficult to do having a job that earns a high income of course must be done because the guarantee of the future is in our own hands,  and to enjoy time with the family we have to do it because with the income earned it can be enjoyed with the family itself so it depends on us alone by dividing the time but,  by having a job and a large income in my opinion it should be owned.

I think balancing time is what must be done  because these two things are things that must be maintained and owned because they are also related to each other, the other side of the family will be happy with us having a job and a large income, the other side we need a job with a clear income to be able to survive by meeting the basic needs of daily life.

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February 19, 2024, 12:59:36 PM
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It's obvious your wife did not understand because for her the relationship and family are the most important thing. Women are genetically programmed to care about the family, children, as they say, to keep the fire going. When you don't want to celebrate the anniversary it sends a message that you don't care about the family and you've even proven it yourself by saying that you provide for her financially, so she doesn't know where the money comes from, what investments you make and how much you can profit from saving up.
Keep doing what you're doing if you're the one responsible for finances, but at the same time show her that you care. Celebrate the anniversary, just make it cheaper. Think of something that will work as a surprise for her but won't cost a fortune.

Drastic times calles for drastic measures so if the OP has been celebrating his marriage anniversary all along and decides to skip it this year for a good reason, because he's investing in Bitcoin and hodling it to sale in the peak of bull run, I'd say that's a good economic plan. Only thing he needs to do is to let his wife to understand that it's important to skip this year's anniversary, because of his investment that'll yield them massive returns in about a year's time, they can celebrate their anniversary in a very low key this year, I'm sure that any reasonable woman will understand.

Being a sole provider in the family is a big responsibility and the breadwinner has to sometimes take some decisions that can cut short the family expenditures, inorder to save and invest in a reputable investment like Bitcoin, which he knows what when it's bull season, the family will enjoy profits in ROI and the investment capital will still be yielding more profits in the future.

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