Asking Questions And Avoiding Penalties- Tips For New Members

[Orekelewa Ade]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

I just created this new account and finally I can make posts, but in regards to this there are certain things I still don’t understand and would likely need direction and answers to questions.

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

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You do not need to rephrase or paraphrase what you copied from another site. If you rephrase it, it would be known and it would be seen as plagiarism. It is even plagiarism. If you want to copy from another site, it is better you include the link at the beginning or the end of your post.

[Orpichukwu]

The account you created before and you were not allowed to post was a result of the IP address from the location you were when you created the account being blacklisted and marked for evil. You did nothing wrong; it's just how the system has been built to detect and blacklist a few IPs that have violated the forum rules before.
 
You need to always give credit to whatever source you get your information from. Even if you read about a particular thing and choose to share it with the forum, you are still required to add a source link to the information. If you don't add a reference link, the text could be considered paraphrasing, which is not far from plagiarism, so always give credit to the original creator.
 
There is no harm in asking questions; if you see something you don't understand in the forum, feel free to ask a question either under the thread in which you are confused or you can create your own thread asking your questions, but I will advise you to learn how to make use of the forum search button; it will help you get answers to some questions that have already been asked and answered in the past.
 
Welcome to the forum.

[Xal0lex]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

If you register with an IP that is blacklisted on the forum, your account is automatically blocked and you are awarded evil points. In order to unblock your account you need to make a contribution in bitcoins, which is indicated on the contribution page. Then you will unlock your account. The alternative to this is to add your account to the forum whitelist. You can contact forum users who have the ability to add forum users to the whitelist. For example, LoyceV.

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

Here are some stats:

Evil	% new users
0	53
0-1	35
1-10	4.4
10-20	0.80
20-50	2.2
50-100	1.3
100+	2.9

Currently each unit of evil requires a payment of 4023 satoshi. You only need to pay something if you have 1 or more, though.

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

Even if you present some news in your own words, it is still better to indicate the source of the news in order for other users to understand what we are talking about. If you rewrite the news, a link to the source is mandatory. There are many cases of banning for rewriting without citing the source.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

It's just about ip evil fee, it is believed that some certain id location had been abused of the privilege given to them in the past for either scam or spam, so it will be requested of a new member to pay for the evil fee before registration is completed, however, you can apply for whitelisting.

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

Plagiarism is when you copy an information, post or article from somewhere and claim them as yours without given references to the author, this is against the rules, another thing I will advise you to abstain is paraphrasing, it's also not an ideal way, when you see an article online, read and digest them, then in your own words, try and make post in explaining what you have to contribute concerning the article, then additionally, you can quote a small part of the article with reference link to it and you're free.

[sokani]

Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed

Welcome to the forum. Copy and paste without making reference to the source is an offense on the forum and you could get a ban for it. To copy and paste, add a link to the source of your post or use a quotation mark or use both.

the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

You're free to read a content, digest it and put it in your own words. It shows originality and that's what's is required of you. However, I think it necessary to add a link if it's a breaking news or something you think people would like to verify the authenticity of the information.

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

You can ask as many questions as you've as long as you're not spamming.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

I just created this new account and finally I can make posts, but in regards to this there are certain things I still don’t understand and would likely need direction and answers to questions.

I think that the OP knows the reason for his first block but is being disingenuous and therefore does not show us the account that was banned.
Further, what was previously provided without reference was probably the reason for the ban.
OP, we can't prove your mistakes, but since you're here, try not to break the rules, and also quote posts if you need to refer to someone else's answer on the forum.
To copy information from external sources, add a link.

[Upgrade00]

I think that the OP knows the reason for his first block but is being disingenuous and therefore does not show us the account that was banned.

This looks like a case of a proxyban due to evil IP, which is no fault of the OP and doesn't make them disingenuous at all. The proxyban system is long overdue for an adjustment imo, as it no longer serves it purpose.

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

Every information we have now is a product of what we have read, listened to or watched in the past, so every post here is us putting content in our own words. You are good if you do this. Something as simple as reading about something on a different website, closing it and then proceeding to write on it here on the forum would give you markedly different sentences and not count as plagiarism.

In cases of news headlines it's ideal to quote the source, but in general knowledge situations, not so much so.

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

Feel free to ask as much questions as you want.
Just don't make two consecutive replies on a thread, beyond this, ask away.

[dzungmobile]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

It is evil IP address and you have to buy pay small evil fee to post. You have an alternative solution, ask for free white listing and wait for result.

Some of users are doing white listing.
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One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed

It is allowed but you must show the source link and don't try to steal intelligent content of other people.

[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it.

[HajiBagi]

The account you created before and you were not allowed to post was a result of the IP address from the location you were when you created the account being blacklisted and marked for evil. You did nothing wrong; it's just how the system has been built to detect and blacklist a few IPs that have violated the forum rules before.
 
You need to always give credit to whatever source you get your information from. Even if you read about a particular thing and choose to share it with the forum, you are still required to add a source link to the information. If you don't add a reference link, the text could be considered paraphrasing, which is not far from plagiarism, so always give credit to the original creator.
 
There is no harm in asking questions; if you see something you don't understand in the forum, feel free to ask a question either under the thread in which you are confused or you can create your own thread asking your questions, but I will advise you to learn how to make use of the forum search button; it will help you get answers to some questions that have already been asked and answered in the past.
 
Welcome to the forum.

Some people don't realise that when you create an account, you have an IP address from the location. This has happened to one of my guys before; he doesn't understand and didn't want to ask because he thought people would think less of him. In life, you have to understand the process before engaging in any activity; you can ask questions in this forum if you don't understand anything. Copy and paste is another thing that is not allowed in the forum; you can see mention of it in the rules.

The forum is not that difficult to use if you follow the rules and understand them thoroughly. Since he has opened a new account, I think he can learn from there and won't want to do anything that could result in him losing his account. The forum asks that you read and comprehend any post you see before adding your ideas or saying anything about the post.

[Hamza2424]

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

Hmm, As a newbie the more you are better for you, to have concrete information and a good reputation, but creating the threads already discussed many times is also not a wise action, There's no restriction on how many questions you can ask, except you don't spam by burst posting. So before asking and creating any topic you can utilize the search feature to find out whether the question si already been discussed before if yes better not to create a new topic and gather information from the older sources, but if you are finding any difficulty ask freely you are free with your keyboard.

For the rest having a reference link always gives a + point in the authenticity of the content and you can avoid many problems if you have a proper reference to the information you are quoting. It's not necessary every time, sometimes you can ignore it as well, but having a link is the surety.

[Cricktor]

Copy/paste something from somewhere definitely needs including a source or reference otherwise you risk being banned for plagiarism.

I would extend this also to paraphrasing content of others. It's harder to detect but if detected by some detectives here you're likely in trouble. If it's not your content, cite it properly with reference/source, simple as that!

As for asking questions: why not, but consider that a lot of questions might have been answered already, maybe even for the umptillionth time.
Loosely based on Star Wars: Use the search, Luke! 

Try at least some decent effort with the forum search (which can be a bit cumbersome) or hop over to https://ninjastic.space where searching this forum's content is much more fun and pleasant.

[The Cryptovator]

First of all, you need to avoid copying and pasting, and you aren't also allowed to use any tools to change or generate your posts. Secondly, you can get data with reference links. You may get information over the internet, and you may mention where you got this information. But you can do research on the Internet and make a post here. For example, someone asks what's the maximum supply of bitcoin, and you don't know it. You can search the internet and post it's 21 million. For that, you don't need to share references or links, but your information should be accurate. Posting false information would mislead other users. Keep in mind that all the information on the Internet isn't accurate.

[SatoPrincess]

the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

Some people try to find a gray area when it comes to plagiarism topics and AI generated posts but there not. Passing someone else’s work as yours is plagiarism.

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

There is no penalty for asking questions, this is a forum after all. It’s only decent to do some research on your own to see if it’s been discussed before. You can learn a lot from reading old threads. I usually tell newbies to use the forum search engine, but you can as well use google search, type in your question and add the keyword bitcointalk at the end. Similar threads will pop up on your browser when you do this.

I think that the OP knows the reason for his first block but is being disingenuous and therefore does not show us the account that was banned.

I don’t think OP is evading ban, I believe he was referring to the forum’s proxy ban on accounts created from certain IP addresses.

[Davidvictorson]

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

In the academic and literally world, using someone's knowledge like your own without giving any credit is a very serious offense. In some countries, you would be asked to pay some fines or be thrown in jail for a short period of time for it. The same law and rule is applicable in this forum. It will be called academic theft you were caught doing that. And because you can't be asked to pay any fine or thrown in jail for it here, the equivalent for it is a ban.

You can always use starters like, "Accorrding to ...", "Coingraph reported that...", "In an article cited in Bitcoin.com...", "Micheal Saylor mentioned that...". "Elon Musk wrote that..." these should be followed with the link attached at the end like a footnote or embedded in the body of the text which is call in-text-citation.

[nakamura12]

If it's your own understanding and explanation about a topic then you don't need to put a reference link but if you did paraphrase it then it is very much similar to plagiarism which is not allowed in the forum or frowned upon doing so. Well, you wouldn't much learn from copying other's work without learning it yourself. If I were to advice you then that's what I will say that you should avoid copying other people's work to post it as your own and to be honest, you shouldn't break any form rules is the best decision you can make.

[Stable090]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

I just created this new account and finally I can make posts, but in regards to this there are certain things I still don’t understand and would likely need direction and answers to questions.

You said immediately you created your first account, it was restricted, and you were asked to pay a small amount of money before you would be able to use your account. Then it’s because your IP address has been banned. That’s the reason, not that you committed any offense, but how did you create the one that you are using and you were not asked to pay any amount of money, or did you pay before making use of it, or did you use a VPN when you were creating this current one?
 
If you have started posting and your account got restricted, then I will have said maybe you have plagiarized, that’s why your account got ban, but since you haven’t posted, then it’s your IP address that has been banned.

[Orekelewa Ade]

@Stable090- I didn’t pay, I created another one with the help of  VPN

@nakamura12- thank you for the enlightenment I now understand more about the copy paste


I’ve seen others reply multiple, I don’t know how to reply that way this is the best I could do

[nakamura12]

@nakamura12- thank you for the enlightenment I now understand more about the copy paste

You can check it here and see how many forum members are plagiarizing in the forum and then being reported which sooner or later that reported forum member will get banned.

I’ve seen others reply multiple, I don’t know how to reply that way this is the best I could do

I think you'll find it easy to do since it is not that complicated anyway.


EXAMPLE:
This is your post not too long ago and if you are going to reply to someone with a specific like in a post then you should do this.
Let's say you are going to reply to my post the you should click on the quote button on that post and then you will see this.
Since you are replying to someone about a certified line then you should keep it and erase the rest and it will look like what you can see below. You can use this to separate it.

Code:

(hr) replace the parenthesis with bracket.

It would look like this

Code:

[quote author=Orekelewa Ade link=topic=5484977.msg63669931#msg63669931 date=1708035329]
I’ve seen others reply multiple, I don’t know how to reply that way this is the best I could do 
[/quote] ( This is where your reply starts. )Then type your reply after the quote Bbcode.

Hope this helps.

[JMBitcointernational]

Firstly, I’ve created an account before and was restricted from making posts without knowing what the offence was. At same time, was asked to pay for something i literally know nothing about .

I just created this new account and finally I can make posts, but in regards to this there are certain things I still don’t understand and would likely need direction and answers to questions.

One of the questions is concerning copying and pasting from a browser, new sites, social media or any source. Though, I’ve read through the rules and seen that copy paste isn’t allowed, the question now is what if one is to read through the information provided by any of the above mentioned  and in such formulate your wordings, will there still be need to reference the link from which the information was gotten?

As a newbie I would also like to know if asking questions back to back based on the fact that I haven’t known all yet, wouldn’t cause a penalty of restriction from the forum or a closed account entirely .

congratulations for having the courage to open another account and that actually shows that you want to learn. and concerning the idea of going to the web to read and change the ideas you got in your own wordings that is very wrong rather i will advice you to  read more on the forum and see how the high ranked members make their own post and follow their footsteps .