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February 13, 2024, 05:13:01 PM
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

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February 13, 2024, 07:28:12 PM
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?

You are talking as if you are new in the forum or the crypto sector at large. Understand that trading is not an investment, and losing in trading is natural. It must happen regardless of how expert you are, unless you do not trade again. If not, you must lose. However, understand that even the experts teaching other people how to trade and how they will make money out of it are also losing, but they do not exhibit their losses because some of them are paid to teach people trading.

So answer to your question now; you cannot make everyone make profit from their trading. Whatever knowledge you will impact on people, there must be people that will lose, I want you to understand the market cannot favor anybody while some people are losing some are getting profit by then, so that is how it works.

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I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Those traders did not tell you exactly why they traded their coins at that time, because if they did, you wouldn't be able to create this thread. However, in the early part of this year, the price of bitcoin was normal to invest in, so why did they trade hoping that the price would be lower than that price? They will invest when they know that the crypto market is unpredictable and can change at any time. So what made them trade their coins at that time was that they were not ready to buy and hodl bitcoin, and they are crypto traders, not investors, so they didn't want to invest. Now that they see the price hit $50,000, they are regretting their action.

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February 13, 2024, 07:41:18 PM
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I got your points although I was never in the shoes of an expert trader who is educating others or helping others in trades to make them some profit because that's a huge weight on the shoulders of an expert trader. I afraid to take that weight and I try to be so transparent that whenever I give a trading suggestion to anyone, either on the forum or in real life, I don't forget to give a disclaimer that "You will be responsible for the trades, I won't, you should DYOR before executing" Statements like this, can save you from big reputation cases.

People in today world are so obsessed with not accepting their own mistakes instead they will put all the mistakes on the mentor or the expert trader they are following. I was one of them, 20% to 40% of the time when I followed experts they were wrong about trades, but 80% to 60% I was wrong in understanding the trades. Some experts don't really give you good signals like "hey buy this @ and sell @" they will make statements using some trading words, that a simple person can't understand, he can't know either the expert is asking us to buy or sell, what!. That's why in order for an expert trader to make there following some profit, they have to give them some education first.

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February 13, 2024, 08:13:04 PM
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Technically yeah, but we also know that it won't happen. I can buy at 1 and sell at 2, you buy at 2 and sell at 3, the other guy buys at 3 and sells at 4 and this keeps going on forever. As we all know that the prices will not go up forever, that requires holding a bit when the price falls, but if the price falls then someone sold and someone bought so it negates. Trading has losses in them and its fine, there is nothing we can do about it, we shouldn't be really worried about it and we should be considering this as normal, there is no reason to just skip through the loss part and just focus on the profit part. You lose, and you win, and in return you sometimes end up with better profit ratio.

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That's normal there are some traders or investors who lose in trading you can't just make them all win because that's the cycle of crypto trading. What do you think will happen to the market if people only keep buying and no one is selling? The price will increase but you won't make any profit if you don't sell that is why exchanges were built for trading purposes if you don't have good strategies you will lose and you won't make any profit.
That is why you need to study how the market works and analyze the crypto and chart so that you know where to enter and when to sell to make a profit and have a backup strategy once it fails.

About what you heard traders regret because they sell early and hoping that the price will drop again at a very cheap price they are already late and I think those people are not traders but investors because traders are always monitoring the chart and waiting for opportunities to buy and sell later on the right time with a backup plan(stop-loss) to avoid losing much and do DCA instead.

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February 13, 2024, 09:45:45 PM
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses.
Because that is actually the truth. Don't ever expect that if you follow these trading experts you can be fully like them. No, that will depend on the situation and you can't make the same thinking and decision when facing the real scenario because you can't expect them to teach about what you gonna do as you are the ones who can decide it. You can apply all the tips they have but not all situations are suitable as sometimes we need to decide on our own, and that is the most common problem and a cause of losses.


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Certainly not, since everyone does not have the necessary knowledge and skills that are required for a successful trading. And you can’t expect that what other traders have, some other traders may also have it. We are all unique in every way. And even if you are always taught by a veteran and professional trader, there are really chances that you won’t absorb everything, but by personal experience that goes with some inevitable losses, you will come to see and understand that it’s exactly the same thing what a professional trader is trying to teach you.

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February 13, 2024, 10:36:19 PM
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Believe me, even though there are many professional traders out there, they are more likely scams. What I mean is those who advertise themselves in order to offer their services, which is that they will be the ones to trade for you or avail their signals. It's hard to find good professional traders that give signals for free, even if they are not free, because they can turn out to be scams. Anyway, as I said, no matter what professional you follow, the earning or result of your trade depends on the trader's decision. Even if he has a good trading signal, it's up to the trader to execute it or maximise it. It doesn't mean that you have a guide or signal that means you will follow every step from other traders. No, you should be the one who decides. That's why knowledge comes first for a trader, if yoy skip that and concerns in the earning then expect a worst results.

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Even if you adopt the same trading strategy as those who made profits – then your share will be different. There are many things that determine whether you will make a profit or not in trading - but making everyone profitable is impossible. Of course I understand what you are saying - but it is very difficult. Every trader has different talents and different risk tolerances – it is even possible that they will not make a profit even if the strategy used is exactly the same.

Other people are just giving you advice - they are not promising you profit. Providing you with profits is not someone else's responsibility - unless you are their financier under an agreement for profit sharing.

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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

I don’t understand you clearly but i do know that everyone on the crypto community be it traders or holders all wants bitcoin price to rise, not only bitcoin but also altcoins too so i don’t understand where this is coming from that trader are not happy seeing bitcoin move to $50k. All bitcoiners get happy when bitcoin is going up because that is all we have all been waiting for, we anticipate the bull run because of the benefits we are entitled to and so do traders also, they wait patiently for a higher price in order to yield profit for themselves.

Holding and trading are two different things with different approaches but all are aimed to achieve similar goal (profit). All that matters is that you know what you are doing. We cannot all win at the same time because because we are all created differently at different times so our time of success differs. Losing now doesn’t mean you would not win in future, we probably not winning now because we are doing something wrong somewhere and until we identify where the problem is.


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February 13, 2024, 11:04:26 PM
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Technically yeah, but we also know that it won't happen. I can buy at 1 and sell at 2, you buy at 2 and sell at 3, the other guy buys at 3 and sells at 4 and this keeps going on forever. As we all know that the prices will not go up forever, that requires holding a bit when the price falls, but if the price falls then someone sold and someone bought so it negates. Trading has losses in them and its fine, there is nothing we can do about it, we shouldn't be really worried about it and we should be considering this as normal, there is no reason to just skip through the loss part and just focus on the profit part. You lose, and you win, and in return you sometimes end up with better profit ratio.
i don't think that is possible because how will everybody win in crypto while even those who are winning are still battling with a lot, concerning trading, so every trader always has one challenge or the other, and you have a good point about selling at different prices not everyone can hold to the end because some people might just get small profit and the next thing will be to sell. as the price is going up it will get to a point it will crash so everything about bitcoin is making use of the opportunity which is just two buying and selling that is the two opportunity that crypto has. and if some people should lose does are the things that discourage them from continuing in their trading but it is not supposed to be so if you don't win now you can win later that is bitcoin for you.

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February 13, 2024, 11:21:46 PM
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...Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?..

It doesn't happen that everyone in the market earns money. The cryptocurrency market is not a win-win lottery and in order for someone to make a profit, dozens of traders must lose their money. And if you can't make a profit, try to lose as little as possible using the risk management strategy.

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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
Obvious answer. Of course, it's impossible.  There's no easy in this world because if the answer here is yes, for sure a lot of people will take advantage and make enough money off of this.
So for me, trading is not easy to we all must learn and have proper knowledge before we start trading because it is risky.

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February 13, 2024, 11:40:59 PM
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Even the most experienced traders cannot guarantee consistent profits for everyone. I think experts can only provide guidance, success in crypto trading often requires a combination of knowledge, experience, and discipline.

Losses are part of the trading process and even experienced traders face challenges. We should approach crypto trading with a realistic mindset, understanding both the potential gains and the associated risks. Continuous learning, adapting to market changes, and maintaining a long-term perspective can contribute to a more sustainable and successful trading experience.

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February 13, 2024, 11:50:45 PM
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The fact is that the crypto market is very dynamic, and as such, even experts in trading sometimes end in end. The only difference between an expert trader and a newbie is that experts usually have a better strategy that helps them maximize more profit and limit losses, while newbies may not yet have developed good strategies, but both categories of traders do experience losses, so there's no one that can actually make everyone win in their crypto trading. If someone tells you that, be careful so that you don't fall for scammers who are busy promoting their channel all in the name of sharing some fake trading signals.

Any trader who is actually dedicated to practicing how to trade and developing some great strategies can maximize their profit. Although, losses are never evictable in trading.
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Well, obviously not. Not all are good and capable enough to win their trades as some are still learning the process, or others have still not gained enough confidence to trade and lose their capital. But you can always motivate everyone to pursue on their trading learning and gain experiences in trading. With proper guidance and having positive outlook for trading, I guess in the long run, one will be more successful in trading as long as he never decides to quit due to destructive losses.

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A trader cannot profit in all the trades he creates, but this does not mean that trading is something that exposes you to losses, as out of a total of 10 trades, you must have 6 or 7 that achieved profits, otherwise you have to reconsider your trading plan.

What I have proposed here is incomprehensible. This is not trading, but rather shorting in futures contracts. If this is true, it is wrong to do it in a rising market because the chances of the price rising are much higher than its falling, and even on the short level, price correction is always around support points and rarely occurs. It would be very bad, but if your intention is to sell now in the hope that the price will decrease in the future, then this is a long-term investment rather than trading.

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I think the OP should better differentiate between investments in Bitcoin and trading of the coin. The confusion is that he mentioned trading whereas what he explained looks more like investments. Aside from that, no one can force anyone to do what they do not want to do, that's why it is good to learn what we want to do with our coins and act appropriately and independently. What if the expert advice is based on a condition but the coin did otherwise?

This makes investments independent affairs. But we must learn and understand how to go about it to make profits from it. If anything goes wrong, we should face the music all by ourselves as well, just the way it can be good for us if we are right in the prediction. After all, we are all speculating, no one knows it all.

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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
There's no such thing about being a perfect trader or shall we say that we would really to make those profits in every trades we do make. If there's one person or trader into this world something like this then
he's considered to be the richest person in the world.What you say? If trading was easy then majority of people would really going into trading but we've seen its not something that anyone would really be comfortable on dealing with it. Why? Its because its never been that easy and its never been that simple. This is why it would really be always best that you should really be that skillful enough so that you would be able
to survive into this market.

Dont rush up yourself on making those decisions on doing trading.You should assess and study out on every movement or steps you do make. Dont tend to
be having that kind of boost of confidence that you could really be able to do it easily or something that you could be able to do it without any problems because
thats not how it works or goes.

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February 14, 2024, 04:13:47 AM
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Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?
Wrong question.

You can question yourself that "Can I make every of my trade to be successful (win) in my crypto trading?"

It's impossible because nobody can get 100% successful trading rate.

Back to your question, you can not make trades of other people as successful (win) ones. You are not them, can not control them so it's unrealistic and impossible to help anyone to gain 100% successful rate. Again let's see you can not achieve it with your trades.

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