Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)

[Fivestar4everMVP]

 On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

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[bitbollo]

Let me answer in this interesting topic...
- absolutely not. this is a fraud. it's illegal according ToS and it's illegal in most of western countries (tax fraud, scam, laundering more and more and more....)
- yes that's reported in ToS
- of course fresh. I will not buy never in any case. just because it's more convenient grow directly by yourself and avoid any previous issues...
- no. I don't want anyone will known anything about me. Just a note, people call me with a name, that's not my real name on documents
- no, first answer is ok...

[Findingnemo]

Selling casino accounts is prohibited as far as I know in most of the casino where they have reward system in place so if you ever came across someone selling casino account then just don't buy at all. It may be a fraud apart from that one who buys risk every deposit, bets, winning and withdrawal at risk and we all know sooner or later we will stuck with no option when they ask for KYC verification.

[cabron]

The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.

[uneng]

I suppose that by purchasing a casino account, someone must be interpreting this as an investment, correct? Sadly, this is a dumb idea, because even though it's a VIP account full of benefits such as raised rakeback, it doesn't worth at all, since the gambler is still likely to lose on long run, so he isn't going to recover the investment made, plus the following deposits made to start wagering after hitting long loss streaks.

If it's a forbidden practice, it must be read in terms and conditions of each casino platform. Anyway, if I were the casino's operator, my only concern would be regards ideological falsehood, since KYC accounts could be being used by another individuals, what configures a serious crime, where the casino might be accounted guilty as well, if spotted it's being conniving with the practice.

However, the sole act of gamblers selling VIP accounts to each other shouldn't be an issue for the casino, because it doesn't prejudice the house financially in anyways on long run. Gamblers still lose the more they play, and receive only a small percentage of the wagered amount through rakeback, which isn't enough to break the house, neither guarantee gamblers the ROI over the accounts' purchases.

[Stepstowealth]

- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

It is not right because after your KYCed account has been sold, you can never trust what the buyer of the account will do with the account that has your details. If it used for money laundering, you could have a problem on your hand and get arrested.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

Even If I trust the direct buyer of my account, I can never trust that the account will not be resold to another person who may then use it for bad.

[Sunderland]

On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

1. After the account has been verified it doesnt mean that the casino will never ask another verification.
They have the rights to do that again to any suspected account. So, selling or buying casino account might bring you problem in the future.

2. Yes, most of the casino already mentioned about it on their T&C
e.g:

Your Account is for Your sole personal use only and shall not be used for any professional, business or commercial purpose.

We reserve the right to immediately suspend, freeze or terminate your account if you:
1. blabla
2. blabla
3. Sell the account

etc

3. Better build from the fresh, there are some reasons why some people willing to buy casino acc such as:
The buyer has blacklisted on many casino and he need a new clean account to abuse the casino.
The buyer need a high ranking account to get the bonuses/faucet/promo on certain casino.
The buyer not able to do KYC because he/she come from blacklisted country

4. No, it's better to be safe than sorry

5. It is forbidden also soon or later the casino definitely will know about it.
Nah, no need to wasting your time for unimportant thread like that.

[decodx]

No. Selling casino accounts is asking for trouble.  It breaks the casino's Terms of Service that you agreed to.  Sharing personal info like KYC details is against the law too and,  you risk identity theft and fraud by selling your private data.  Buying accounts is risky as well.  You can't trust what you're getting.  Best to make your own account the right way, even if it takes longer.  That keeps things above board.

[Davidvictorson]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

There will always be people who will stand for or against selling casino account irrespective of what the law says. I think their slogan will be "don't get caught."

Personally, I do not like the idea of selling one's account. What if the buyer uses it for laundering and you are arrested instead of the person what will be your explanation to the court. The risk is too high,

The right thing to do will always be the right thing to do. Building my account from the scratch is a better and peace of mind option than buying. The day I leave gambling, is the day I close my gambling account. Selling of casino account is like promoting fraud, please do no create a thread for it.

[EarnOnVictor]

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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

I don't think is right. It is your name and identity that are attached to the account, it's impersonation if it's being used by another person other than you whether you grant the permission or not. The law will treat it otherwise, and you are liable to conspire.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

I think they have. You can confirm that with their Ts&Cs. Even if it is not such that is directly stated, they can never encourage that. And if caught, the account would be banned immediately.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

I like to build afresh. Gambling is not a must-do for me. Also, there's nothing special about VIP or special status for me to warrant such desperation.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

No, I can't sell my gambling account even if I am not gambling again. This is risky and could be criminal as well. What if the account you completed your KYC with is now used for fraudulent acts, what would you do if it escalated? By then, the money you collected for the account sale will no longer be worth it.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

No. This can never be legitimate, it's even criminal if the law is to be interpreted to it. As for the second part of the question, I don't think it is necessary. You might be encouraging illegality by that, and since you created the thread, there is no way you can exonerate yourself entirely.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

It's a free world, bro.

[electronicash]

what do they do to the accounts they buy other than playing games and betting on sports?
If the account is KYCed i think many will be interested to buy in protecting his privacy and this is for the high rollers too. otherwise, just register and play, those casinos don't ask for IDs from someone with just $100 in their account.

and for a user who also submitted his IDs yet sold his account,  you are in big trouble if the user who bought your account does illegal activities like laundering.

[kojektea]

As far as I know, buying and selling accounts is prohibited, most people buy accounts to get bonuses, such as stakes, the higher your account rank, the higher your monthly bonus. That's why many people want to buy a casino account, because they feel the bonus is worth the price. buy, if it were me personally I would avoid buying and selling accounts, because it is a risky action

[Patikno]

- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

- Your data is your identity, when you sell your verified account, it is the same as selling your identity, this is not the right thing to do.
- Yes, they have it.

4.14 You are prohibited from selling, transferring or acquiring Stake Accounts to or from other Players.

4.2. You are not allowed to transfer, sell and/or acquire, user accounts.

- Buying and selling accounts is the work of account farmers. Honestly, if I can make a profit from it, why should I create a new one?
- If I have financial problems then I will sell it to someone even though I have KYC there, but if I don't experience financial problems and want to get out of gambling, I will choose self-exclusion (Stake has that feature).
- I don't know if that's allowed in this forum, but I think it's better not to make any threads about it, just let the buying and selling of accounts happen outside the forum.

[topbitcoin]

Allow me to respond to that. according to my reasoning, It is strongly discouraged to sell casino accounts, as it could be against the rules of the casino itself. Most casinos implement policies that include not allowing users to sell or transfer their accounts, especially if a KYC (Know Your Customer) verification process has already been completed. Account sales can also breach gambling legislation in some places.

When you are able to create a casino account, it would be wiser and better if you develop your own account from the ground up. Security and confidence emanate from having an account that is entirely yours; in contrast, acquiring an account through purchase will never give you the same level of security and confidence.

When you make up your mind to abandon gambling entirely, it is better to close or deactivate the account instead of selling it. The act of trusting people who want to buy your account, especially if they have gone through a KYC process, can also be an issue in itself. In general, trading casino accounts would be a breach of policies set by casinos with possible legal and security implications. Instead, it is advisable to refrain from engaging in such activity and observe the rules as they are provided.

[yahoo62278]

On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

You already know the answer to most of these questions so I am not sure why the need for this thread except to educate(even though those that need educated could care less).

is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

Obviously no, you are just allowing someone to circumvent the rules of the casino.

Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Yep, most of the casinos are 100% against it.

If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

What if you won $1 million dollars and they asked you to kyc again? Why risk not getting paid?

Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

You can never trust the buyer as you have no clue what circumstances may come about. People act differently when they're backed into a corner.

Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

This is never going to be the case so there is no point.

Ok, now that all your questions are answered, I want to add a little. Most people would only be interested in purchasing an account for a few reasons. 1. to collect the weekly/monthly bonus without having to wager(although casinos are changing how much an account earns from not gambling even if VIP). 2. to be able to play because they are banned or from a restricted country. Until countries laws are changed redarding gambling and jurisdictions, this will be a somewhat lucrative market, but what if casinos are given a warrant and all people associated with an IP can or are arrested because of stolen coins or some other reason? Risk outweighs the reward IMO.

[Wiwo]

For me,  is not morally right to sell a personal account and both the buyer and the seller are both at risk,  the seller faces the risk of being framed up for a crime that he may not have committed most especially if the casino account is a KYC verified account and the buyer goes on to commit a crime such as an account being used to do money laundering act and the government trace it to the old owner since his documents and other information are used on the account before he sold it.

The buyer also is at risk of losing his money if along the line he runs into any problem on the casino and he need to prove his real ownership of the account,  so the risk in buying and selling of accounts depends on both the buyer and the seller alike.


This is why account sales of any kind are unwelcome to those who already have experience in the industry,  not only casinos account but any form of account dealing is wrong.

[Jating]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

There could be reasons why someone will sell his/her accounts. So as for the rights, yes, but the question is that if it allowed?

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Like the signature that you are carrying, you can simply search for their ToS

4.14 You are prohibited from selling, transferring or acquiring Stake Accounts to or from other Players.

https://stake.com/policies/terms

So I think that already answers your question, it is not allowed by most of the casinos to sell accounts. So gamblers should avoid selling specially buying of accounts, you are putting a lot of risk in your end. And if you are a gambler that follow and play by the rules because you don't want to have issues with your account, it's better to read the Terms and Conditions of the gambling sites, not just for selling or buying accounts.

[Gozie51]

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

First, almost all the questions you asked are all risky adventure to take up as far as casino account is concern and KYC on it and that is why I picked this to respond to.

KYC is about an individual's information in the hands of the casino and can go into the public space at the call by any agency of the government so long the casino is regulated. So I think it is risky to sell a casino account that has gone through KYC whether the owner is no longer an active gambler or aged. The point is your data in the public can be used in things incrementing against you or expose your information that you are keeping away from the public.

[Orpichukwu]

Selling your casino account that has been KYCed to someone else is the same thing as selling your identity to another person, and the reverse is also the case when you buy such an account.  

Aside from the risk of losing the account immediately, the person makes a big win or deposit as the casino can detect the change of IP address from the login activities of the new account owner, and if other documents are requested to prove ownership of the account, the new owner can't provide them, which will lead to losing the account immediately with whatever is inside.  

Another bad news about that account is that if the old user has used it to commit fraud, which is yet to be detected, that fraud can be traced back to the new owner and also to the old users, which they can track down both who know about the fraud and the person who is insulting is going to pay for it. Looking at it all around, buying a casino account looks entirely like a bad idea to me.

[AmoreJaz]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

first and foremost, i don't think it is good idea for the OP to create a thread where gamblers can do their transaction of buying and selling a casino account. does he really think it is of best interest for the gamblers to create one? for one, you are subjecting a lot of people to fraud.

just think of the possible scenarios that will come out of this situation -
- using someone else's identity, as you already submit KYC to the casino
- there may be no specific policy against account selling, however, when it is time for further verification, how can the buyer provide more proofs if the initial submitted docs are not his?
- it is always best to just start fresh and create your new and own account, at least, any doc or selfie or video call, you don't need to worry as it is your own account from the very beginning
- don't ever think of selling your KYC'd account to anyone, because it means, he is using your identity while playing on a casino. you'll never know what he's gonna do while actively playing and using your account
- i don't think it is legit to sell a casino account by any means. in most ToS of the casinos that i've read, they stated specificially that you should be the owner of your account and they may ask other details, if it is deem necessary