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March 15, 2024, 03:37:19 PM |
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Dont you guys think what I am think it is possible that people who bought the KYC account can do something illegal like do money laundry through gambling site if this possibility the real user of the account can be dangerous.
Selling an account that has already done KYC is stupid decisions from seller. In essence, selling any account where the person has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Buyers can do anything with the account and existing data. If the new owner (buyer) of the account commits a criminal act, such as money laundering, sending funds to terrorists, the first account owner will be sought by the authorities. Because the data in the account is the data of the first owner, not the current new owner. So this second party takes cover from the owner of the first account for whatever action he wants with that accounts. He just need to create a same bank account name to that account. If it can be done with bypass bank administrations to create bank account with fake name, so it very possible to do.
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March 15, 2024, 03:44:12 PM |
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<..snip..> Now, my question is.. - is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed? - Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
No it is not right and it is a violation of the ToS of a gambling website to transfer your account to another user via selling. Under the ToS of most gambling websites, there is a prohibition about account selling where the owner is prohibited to do such. In addition, when you submit your KYC documents to a certain gambling website, you are also implying that you are the owner of such account thereof. If you sell that account with your KYC information, then it is in effect fraud and deceit where a person is using your information on your account. - If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
No and never since the risks are too much for me to consider. If I were to invest my time and money on a certain casino, then I would make sure that I have all the genuine information to be submitted. If I were to purchase an account from a seller then I invest my time and money on such, then there is always that risk of my account being banned and my funds being withheld by the gambling website. - Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer? - Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
No I would not sell my account as it is against the said rules. If it is my account, then I have the KYC documents associated with it. Selling it to another user would put me into a situation of my profile being tagged across several gambling websites. Also, account trading is NOT legitimate unless the gambling platform says otherwise.
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March 20, 2024, 04:46:01 AM |
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Dont you guys think what I am think it is possible that people who bought the KYC account can do something illegal like do money laundry through gambling site if this possibility the real user of the account can be dangerous.
Selling an account that has already done KYC is stupid decisions from seller. In essence, selling any account where the person has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Buyers can do anything with the account and existing data. If the new owner (buyer) of the account commits a criminal act, such as money laundering, sending funds to terrorists, the first account owner will be sought by the authorities. Because the data in the account is the data of the first owner, not the current new owner. So this second party takes cover from the owner of the first account for whatever action he wants with that accounts. He just need to create a same bank account name to that account. If it can be done with bypass bank administrations to create bank account with fake name, so it very possible to do. But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Some people just don't aware with that ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) . Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce
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March 20, 2024, 05:53:35 AM |
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I wouldn't dream of buying or selling a casino account. Regarding selling it has already been said, apart from breaking the rules, it is normal that you have passed KYC and selling your privacy for a few bucks is not very smart, and regarding buying it, similar, because you are breaking the rules also for some supposed benefits such as having a vip account but it costs you money and if you get caught you will be left with nothing. Not to mention if the person who sells it to you could be under judicial investigation, for example, and you will end up receiving a visit from the police at your house to ask for explanations.
Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.
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March 20, 2024, 05:43:48 PM |
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But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Some people just don't aware with that ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) . Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce I don't know, whether they are not aware or they think it is normal. but in Indonesia, buying and selling KYC accounts happens so easily at cheap prices. Some people selling thier KYCed account start from $30. If this is used for a casino, and when buyers get a big win, unfortunatelly, it requires data verification, of course the owner may not be able to fulfill this verification. This is the negative side from the buyer's side of buying someone else's KYC account.
Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.
yes, this is not good idea, but in real life, someone choose to buy other accounts just because they are doesn't wants to share their personal data.
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March 22, 2024, 02:54:59 AM |
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But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Some people just don't aware with that ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) . Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce I don't know, whether they are not aware or they think it is normal. but in Indonesia, buying and selling KYC accounts happens so easily at cheap prices. Some people selling thier KYCed account start from $30. If this is used for a casino, and when buyers get a big win, unfortunatelly, it requires data verification, of course the owner may not be able to fulfill this verification. This is the negative side from the buyer's side of buying someone else's KYC account. Yeah I know that back then people buy KYCed Exchange accounts for 500K Rupiah right for an airdrop or things similar like that, and if you remember there is person who sold National ID + with people hold their National ID and sold as NFT on OpenSea that is crazyyyyyy. Secondly I hear the news on TV that rich people bought national id from poor people to avoid taxes. wow this world is really broken. and all of this can be happen on Casino account too.
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March 22, 2024, 11:01:59 AM |
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I wouldn't dream of buying or selling a casino account. Regarding selling it has already been said, apart from breaking the rules, it is normal that you have passed KYC and selling your privacy for a few bucks is not very smart, and regarding buying it, similar, because you are breaking the rules also for some supposed benefits such as having a vip account but it costs you money and if you get caught you will be left with nothing. Not to mention if the person who sells it to you could be under judicial investigation, for example, and you will end up receiving a visit from the police at your house to ask for explanations.
Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.
Scary and I hope the buyers of casino accounts are reading this. They are putting themselves in danger not just their account getting frozen but also in the scope of the police if ever that account had done something nasty or illegal. I do understand the sellers for doing it maybe because they just want their money back for all the hardships and money spent to rank the account but I don't understand the buyers on why they would do that. It's not just the legality but also the prone to scammers because they are still holding the e-mail account and there's always a way to reset the password, which means the buyer could end up losing everything. Well, maybe they will be buying it so they can use it in illegal ways and when it points out to someone, it will be the seller who will be visited not them. Both ways are scary, it's better not to just do it. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well, it's not that hard to rank and we could always wager in the low-risk games so that we won't be losing too much money, $1000 could go far and it would probably take to gold or diamond ranks in just weeks or a month.
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March 22, 2024, 11:52:22 AM |
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Underaged gamblers would be their biggest buyers, and that's risky. The casinos can't trace this or figure out if an account has changed hands or not. However, selling a casino account is wrong, but the account business has been on the rise since the emergence of social media lifestyles. Hence, people now have the urge to purchase accounts after getting banned or not eligible to use the platform. Such things can't be stopped. Provided the buyer utilizes the account very well and doesn't break rules he'd be in the casino forever. Moreover, the casino is focused on tracing people who go against their terms of service, than those who purchase accounts. The risk is on the buyer, yes, but in rare cases where the account is flagged for some reason, caused by the original owner. He could lose out on his deposit and balances.
Though it's wrong in all ramifications, underage players wouldn't mind going through this route, to be eligible to enjoy their habit. There are other beneficiaries of this account-buying business, those who sell data, and create accounts in bulk, then the marketers and resellers. Since the market has been established it'll be around for a longer period, regardless of the risk. Buyers and sellers wouldn't stop trading. Addicted gamblers who got banned from using a casino can also utilize this service. I learned that the casino that banned him works as hard as possible to see that he doesn't gamble elsewhere, because of his addiction. Hence, he's not eligible to run KYC using his date anymore. Online casinos are getting broader each day, and gamblers are eager to achieve their goal, the jackpot.
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Secondly I hear the news on TV that rich people bought national id from poor people to avoid taxes. wow this world is really broken.
and all of this can be happen on Casino account too.
Whether the world is broken or not, rich people can indeed buy the identities of the poor so that they can use them for different purposes to avoid getting in trouble themselves. They know that the poor are vulnerable and they would always be ready to sell anything for money imagine you haven't fed your family for two days and then you are offered money, even if it's a small amount, you will be ready to give anything for it. When we talk about gambling, I'm also pretty sure they can do this in gambling as well, if they don't want to provide their identity if asked for KYC verification, they can always either buy accounts from others or buy their identities by paying them money to get their account verified.
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Now, my question is.. - is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
It isn't okay to sell a casino account under any circumstances, especially if it has KYC verification. Now, my question is.. - Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Certainly everyone has some rule that prohibits this, and as you mentioned Stake.com, I recommend that you read item 17.3 of the terms of use: We hereby grant to You a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable right to use the Website for the sole purpose of accessing and using the Services on the Website, in accordance with these Terms and Conditions.Now, my question is.. - If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I would never buy an account, firstly because it is illegal, secondly because the risk of losing that account is great, thirdly because I would be taking a lot of risk of losing money in this "negotiation". Now, my question is.. - Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
Likewise, I would never sell my account, much less if it had KYC verification with my personal data. Now, my question is.. - Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
Selling personal accounts will never be legitimate, here on the forum it is only "allowed" because there is no way to prove this negotiation, however the community in general is quite emphatic in denigrating negotiated accounts.
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