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February 29, 2024, 11:36:01 PM
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Did you know ?

Most casinos always have the potential to ask you some (KYC). It's most the time cleared stated on their term & service, we have two type casino:
- A casino : Ask you KYC in the front after you finish the registration
- A casino : Ask you KYC in some situation / at the time they're needed

The number two, we can play without KYC and potential without KYC. But always prepare everything before they ask you KYC, for these topic I really have my own tough. If people want to play (GO BIG DEPOSIT) better to finish all (KYC) things up to (Level 2/3) before we deposit big deposit.

Why ? to avoid a reason/response for KYC while we are withdraw big from our big win.

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February 29, 2024, 11:53:20 PM
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That's really weird that they're going to block your account when you violated that IP change rule like what can you really do in that situation when you've changed your IP? It's not like you've changed your IP somewhere that's illegal right and shouldn't this thing not be a thing anymore? @yahoo62278's right, it's not a good reason to not pay your player? And this person has already given their information that's needed already right? So I don't think that Coins Game is going to have any problem anymore especially with the fact that if OP is doing something bad in their casino, they can just go up to his profile check on his information and do what they need to do.

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March 01, 2024, 01:41:27 AM
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this is the rating Casino.guru giving Coins.game https://ibb.co/VJXQPKD  safety index low
meanwhie the self claimed the most honest review site like BTCGOSU is givng it a good rating and featuring it in the homepage
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March 01, 2024, 02:08:33 AM
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There is one other unresolved scam accusation against this site Coins.game CONFISCATING all my winnings (268mbtc) and unfortunately there is only 1 answer from the casino's rep saying that the player cheat the system but the casino do not tell how the player cheat the system. The case is different (sports betting), but it seems that the process is similar where player is asked KYC and the verification took long time and eventually the casino not letting player to withdraw the winnings. Sorry to hear your experience @OP, I guess you will not get a fast reply/answer from the casino in this forum but hopefully there will be a solution for your case from them through support.

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March 01, 2024, 02:41:42 AM
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On 26.02.2024, I went to the coins.game site and invested 30 dollars. I have played by depositing 50, 100, 300 dollars before and won, although it is rare, I have withdrawn 50, 300, 900 dollars, no problem so far. The 30 dollar multiplier roulettes I played on 26.02.2024 reached the level of 1000 dollars. It came out. I requested a withdrawal and it was canceled after 12 hours. After 12 hours, they asked for account confirmation. Of course, as a regular player, I had entered all my information correctly, the situations we are experiencing are classic. I sent my passport and face photo. After 48 hours, they got back to me that I opened different accounts. My account can only be accessed from 1 IP number in one house. They blocked my account with excuses such as if there was anyone playing on this site at home, we should have informed them. In a 48-hour period, I turned my balance of 1000 dollars into 32,800 dollars just by playing roulette. I am a human being, I can change house, I can change phone. I can enter the cafe, I can log in via wifi or my friend's phone, these are just excuses. They return emails as standard, but there is no contact person. This is what happens to you when you make money. He confiscated $32,800 and blocked me. If my messages are answered, I will share photos with my friends.

           -   You know I'm the type of person who doesn't immediately believe what someone says; of course, I first analyze whether the information given is true or not. Now, according to what you said, the casino blocked your account because you used more than one account, right?

I hope you completed your statement first with proof. I hope what you showed, like a screenshot, at least shows that you have a balance in what you are saying. It's really easy to tell a story; now, if you really know you're right, submit to the scam accusation with evidence.

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March 01, 2024, 06:27:10 AM
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this is the rating Casino.guru giving Coins.game https://ibb.co/VJXQPKD  safety index low
meanwhie the self claimed the most honest review site like BTCGOSU is givng it a good rating and featuring it in the homepage
https://ibb.co/NC2LK7R 

always becareful from the review sites (they feature whowever pay them) also double search and research before depositing in any website

I've never played in Coins.game so I can't tell my personal experience, but when ratings in different review sites don't match is often a bad sign.

On the other hand, if this casino is small (I don't really know, but it is not one of the leading crypto-casinos either), chances are that they can't afford to pay big prizes, and all the multi accounts and IP thing may be nothing more than an excuse.

To clear doubts, we'd need more evidence.

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March 01, 2024, 08:43:52 AM
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32,800 dollars is a lot of money, to be honest. I can now buy a simple home for that amount, including the secondhand vehicles and small business. I'm just curious to see how he did that. And in what category did Op gamble that he won such a winning amount?

And it's also a bit stressful when the money can't be released first, and I can't figure out why you're OP blocked on that platform. Are you really sure that you did not violate their rules and systems on their gambling casino platform?



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March 01, 2024, 08:46:37 AM
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Friends, first of all, I would like to thank everyone, there were misunderstandings, they canceled my 1000 dollar check, they asked for documents, I sent them the documents. While waiting for 48 hours, I turned 1000 dollars into 32 thousand dollars. I did not think that there would be so many answers from here, like every other page, all the earnings photos are available, there is a time difference between us, the shots I took, the investments, I will send them all.
so when you  have been denied the 100 withdrawal then you continue using the amount to gamble
and indeed you made it to 38k ? that is more than enough to learn that they are scam and with using the
money to play more and win more then you game them more reason to completely scam you , then have
been trying to scam you with 1000 then what more for that 32k .

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Feel sorry for your loss mate but who can blame you for that ? you have just trust a scam casino that have so much issue about their attitude and activities towards their players so you should know that from the beginning.
Now I think you must accept the fact that you are scammed and also they have no representative in this forum that can answer your issues.
and also you have  to admit that fact .

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I tried to write everything in detail as you wish, I look forward to your help.
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First, the best section for this is the Scam Accusations section of the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0), you can do the needful to alert the moderator to move it for you.

It's obvious that your story is common among the customers of casinos these days and I hope a permanent solution to this menace will soon come. I've always said that for casinos to cite the same IP and gadget as the means to block an account is evil, especially if they can't provide enough proof that you violated their terms and conditions without a reasonable doubt.

In a similar case that I responded to a while ago, merely because a representative of a casino came forward to say the guy had multiple accounts with them, all the users here started siding with the casino's representative, this is actually without any proof. Is that justice? I am not dumb. Well, as it is in this current dispensation, the casinos' environment is still very well underregulated, there's little you can do to get your money back. You are at the mercy of Coins.Game now.

Had it been that there are strict regulations like we see in banks, for example, they would not dare to do that without enough proof. This common issue of using IPs as excuses to block accounts wouldn't even be impossible, they would have thought it twice. They would have treated each case carefully to determine if it was the same person behind this account through their gambling styles and not just concluded based on the IP. Strangely, this often never happens when you are a bad player, but until you want to withdraw money or are a good player which is a threat to them. The excuse to block an account due to IP when IPs can't deniably clash is so wicked because even in the same country where a dynamic IP is being used, two people in different states could use the same IP at the same time, so this conclusion (if it's real at all and not fabricated) is unfair.

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First, the best section for this is the Scam Accusations section of the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0), you can do the needful to alert the moderator to move it for you.


The OP already created a separate thread on the scam accusation board through the link that he posted above your post.

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It's obvious that your story is common among the customers of casinos these days and I hope a permanent solution to this menace will soon come. I've always said that for casinos to cite the same IP and gadget as the means to block an account is evil, especially if they can't provide enough proof that you violated their terms and conditions without a reasonable doubt.

I agree on this because anyone can be a victim of this multiple account once casino fake their IP log just to freeze the players account once win huge amount. But we can’t blame them for being harsh since there’s really a lot of players abusing the casino welcome bonus and other casino perks.

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In a similar case that I responded to a while ago, merely because a representative of a casino came forward to say the guy had multiple accounts with them, all the users here started siding with the casino's representative, this is actually without any proof. Is that justice? I am not dumb. Well, as it is in this current dispensation, the casinos' environment is still very well underregulated, there's little you can do to get your money back. You are at the mercy of Coins.Game now.

Casino nowadays already generalizing multiple account regardless if you are doing malicious activity or not so it’s much better to play safe and just use one account or use premium VPN to guarantee you won’t share your IP.

This casino has a lucky wheel available to all user regardless of rank that rewards real cash. I believe this is the reason why this casino use the multiple account terms to seize the account because there’s a possibility that all the account lucky wheel while there’s no way to prove online that your sister use other account unless you do live stream on all of your games.

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Had it been that there are strict regulations like we see in banks, for example, they would not dare to do that without enough proof. This common issue of using IPs as excuses to block accounts wouldn't even be impossible, they would have thought it twice. They would have treated each case carefully to determine if it was the same person behind this account through their gambling styles and not just concluded based on the IP. Strangely, this often never happens when you are a bad player, but until you want to withdraw money or are a good player which is a threat to them. The excuse to block an account due to IP when IPs can't deniably clash is so wicked because even in the same country where a dynamic IP is being used, two people in different states could use the same IP at the same time, so this conclusion (if it's real at all and not fabricated) is unfair.

The problem is if the same IP is being use simultaneously by multiple account. The time gap will determine that they belong on same IP and what is the odds of somebody will use same IP to you that play the same exact casino.


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March 01, 2024, 10:43:35 AM
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I am not a fan of the 1 account per IP excuse to not pay a player. Some people have a belief that an account is cursed and want a new account. Assuming that a person is not collecting multiple bonuses on an account and cheating the house, I do not see why multiple accounts aren't allowed? If they are making multiple accounts and taking advantage of 1st time deposit bonuses or whatnot, then they could have a case.

And so casinos can make this as an excuse to confiscate the money of any player. Specially if he had won big money and try to withdraw it. But we really need to see the clearer picture here. For know, as there is a precedence against the casino, majority might be in the side of the accuser here.

I am not saying the OP is innocent of anything here, nor am I calling the casino a scam at this point. Would be nice to hear both sides, but if their rep hasn't been online for a month, the odds are not likely that we will get their side.

Yes, we need both sides here, the problem is that most casinos keep quiet when they have accusations and will not divulge any of their findings unless it's a 3rd party arbiter. So maybe the OP will have to go on that way so that it might "force" the casino to give their side and let the 3rd party arbiter decides on this case.

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March 01, 2024, 10:49:19 AM
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There is one other unresolved scam accusation against this site Coins.game CONFISCATING all my winnings (268mbtc) and unfortunately there is only 1 answer from the casino's rep saying that the player cheat the system but the casino do not tell how the player cheat the system. The case is different (sports betting), but it seems that the process is similar where player is asked KYC and the verification took long time and eventually the casino not letting player to withdraw the winnings. Sorry to hear your experience @OP, I guess you will not get a fast reply/answer from the casino in this forum but hopefully there will be a solution for your case from them through support.

I really do not think the casino are willing to do anything about OPs case. From the looks, there is every possibility that the casino does not want to issue OP win and are putting up this attitude of theirs to make sure OP feels frustrated and leave them.

If the presence of the casino is registered on this platform, that would help alot to pushing the case further to making sure it is fully resolved. However, of OP is really sincere that there is nothing wrong he or she has committed, then it would definitely be resolved here if some reputable members presses further with the case.

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Friends, if you are going to be a referee, I am ready to provide you with the receipts of the money sent, the passport of my girlfriend, who is a member, and the passport of my other friend, and the accuracy of the information recorded on the site, the wifi at home, the serial numbers of the tablet at home, the laptop at home, or whatever you want, I am the victim of the injustice here.
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Friends, if you are going to be a referee, I am ready to provide you with the receipts of the money sent, the passport of my girlfriend, who is a member, and the passport of my other friend, and the accuracy of the information recorded on the site, the wifi at home, the serial numbers of the tablet at home, the laptop at home, or whatever you want, I am the victim of the injustice here.

OP, I see you are really ready to prove yourself by providing all necessary information to back up your claims. However, as you can see this board is not for complaints of this nature as you have earlier been advised to follow the appropriate procedure in opening a scam accusations
With the format; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0
And make it known at this board  here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
This would give your complaints the urgent attention it deserves as well known reputable members could stand in for you if you are been honest with your evidence.

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Hello, I published a post explaining my problems on the page you requested.
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Hello, I published a post explaining my problems on the page you requested.

Since you already created a thread in the scam section it's better to lock this thread now, so we can have one discussion on your issue, and please configure your post so will not have a hard time reading your post.

Do proper spacing, your English is good but without proper spacing and punctuation with your very log post people will be at a loss for what you are trying to get across, this is only a recommendation.

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March 01, 2024, 02:55:17 PM
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this is the rating Casino.guru giving Coins.game https://ibb.co/VJXQPKD  safety index low
meanwhie the self claimed the most honest review site like BTCGOSU is givng it a good rating and featuring it in the homepage
https://ibb.co/NC2LK7R  

always becareful from the review sites (they feature whowever pay them) also double search and research before depositing in any website

I've never played in Coins.game so I can't tell my personal experience, but when ratings in different review sites don't match is often a bad sign.

On the other hand, if this casino is small (I don't really know, but it is not one of the leading crypto-casinos either), chances are that they can't afford to pay big prizes, and all the multi accounts and IP thing may be nothing more than an excuse.

To clear doubts, we'd need more evidence.

you cannot compare casino.guru a huge company in this field to btcgosu a small wordpress blog posting casino reviews for  getting referrals untill here is good but claiming you are most honest then giving fake ratings to some scam sites like this one in this topic or such as fortunejack its a big joke and some people might fall victims .


However for the OP (the victim in this topic) dont send any passport details or anything to anyone in here nobody here can help you
you might get personal emails  from some scammers will say they could help or something  they are just scammers dont send anything

and last i told you use Casino.guru you might have a better chance in there . and if you used sports bets as well use Askgamblers

i have a worry that you might fall again a victim to some scammer in here since you talking about sending gf documents ....
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Friends, if you are going to be a referee, I am ready to provide you with the receipts of the money sent, the passport of my girlfriend, who is a member, and the passport of my other friend, and the accuracy of the information recorded on the site, the wifi at home, the serial numbers of the tablet at home, the laptop at home, or whatever you want, I am the victim of the injustice here.

Don’t do it here because this is the forum while coins.game representative last active here was January 20. You should move this to a better platform that specializes on handling this kind of case such as casinoguru or askgambler.  Last time that this casino faced problem was they didn’t owner 3rd party platform decision and stick to their initial decision.

I really doubt that you can overturn their decision but trying will not gonna harm you. Please don’t send documents here especially documents that contains identity because no one here can help you personally to solve your case because we doesn’t have contact or work in that casino.

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