An open letter to Eddie from Stake with lots of shares on Reddit

[3kpk3]

What's with the flurry of anti-Stake threads recently in this board? Anyway, the open letter is pointless since Stake is in the business of making money as some of the posters above mentioned and youth addiction is just collateral damage to them.

Gambling addiction in any form will just keep rising with time sadly due to reasons like high unemployment rates etc in my opinion.

[Betwrong]

Unfortunately. I can't see it.



I can guess what was there though. Was it a post from yet another addicted gambler who lost a lot of money and saying that gambling should banned everywhere? You are asking about my opinion, @Get-Paid.com? Here it is: Gambling should not be banned. Since some people, a minority, can't control their greed and suffer because of it, the vast majority of gamblers, responsible gamblers, shouldn't suffer because of the ban.

[Synchronice]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

Despite the fact that I don't know what was the original post, for those who are interested in, most likely it was about Stake's aggressive marketing and how it ruins the young generation in the USA.
I am not against casinos, I even promote the one because I believe that it's our choice to do what we want and gambling is also a good way to experience fan, sometimes CoD becomes boring and slots give you fun, yes, live blackjack is amazing too for some kind of social interaction at the same time. But I agree with some point here, it's really very bad when casinos pay millions of dollars to people like Drake to play slots live and via fake winning and loses, casinos try to attract new customers. I mean, marketing is necessary for casino but it also depends on the marketing. Profits are good but if this level of marketing destroys young generation, I think they should change their marketing and probably do more for their customers to not get addicted.

[Haunebu]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

Op probably ran into some unexpected issues due to which he deleted the letter pretty quickly which is why I doubt anyone archived the letter and it's not something really important that should have been archived in the first place.

Also, Eddie is the co-founder of Stake along with Stunna who is supposedly another co-founder. You can find Eddie's information pretty easily online.

[Beparanf]

What's your opinion about this letter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b51kyk/dear_eddie_and_stake

 

You should copy the complete content time and just enclosed it with quote so that user here can read the content immediately without visiting using the link you provided that directs outside the forum. As many already mentioned, the letter was already deleted and the purpose of this thread is already useless.

Just lock the thread immediately or at least sure what’s the recap of that letter if you still remember to have a proper discussion.


There’s a lot of user recently having problem on Stake.com due to multiple account. Probably its the same user that spreading negativity here in the forum.

[bittraffic]

It was said he won $2M?  That is really life-changing.
Since he did violate the TOS I guess the administration got the right to do something. I don't know what he did to win that much but it's going to make him crazy to post something off a hate letter.

Upon reading more of the comments, I think he admitted he is addicted. I think its the Reddit moderator who deleted his post.

[Hispo]

It was said he won $2M?  That is really life-changing.
Since he did violate the TOS I guess the administration got the right to do something. I don't know what he did to win that much but it's going to make him crazy to post something off a hate letter.

Upon reading more of the comments, I think he admitted he is addicted. I think its the Reddit moderator who deleted his post.

I am late to the party, so I don't have any idea what this open letter was about. I have read he literally compared casino operators to terroristz which is obviously delusional to do in any context. Even though I am not even sure of the situation that person is going through, the simple fact he has admitted to be addicted to gambling should be more than enough for us to have a glance on the stress and helplessness he could be feeling.
Instead of trying to smear and vent negatively against the casino he chose to gamble on, he is supposed to seek for professional help, so he can get his life back on track, I don't know, something it can be harsh to see people making their life harder by taking decisiom they know from the beginning are reckless and are pretty much likely to lead to financial loss.

As some people have already say here in this thread, casinos are a legal business which supply their services because there is a demand for them, we cannot blame the alcohol businesses, the pubs and the brewers of the car accidents and the separation of families because of alcoholism. We all are supposed to be responsible adults and evaluate our actions before carry them out.  Whatever... Hopefully that guy gets help and manages to self-exclude himself for as long as he needs.

[darkangel11]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

Most likely, although I'm relying on the things I saw over the years, your confusion comes from the fact that they use fake names and nicknames.
Edward Craven, also used a name Edward Miroslav founded the site along with Bijan Tehrani, and this is probably the guy nicknamed Stunna.
If the letter was deleted I assume the person who wrote this was angry and released that anger by writing this post, then reconsidered the situation and deleted it.

it's really very bad when casinos pay millions of dollars to people like Drake to play slots live and via fake winning and loses, casinos try to attract new customers.

They made so much money by holding bitcoin that users were losing in their casino that they can play with money and see what works and what doesn't. They can throw a million your way just for fun, it's nothing compared to their total net worth.

[iv4n]

Completely agree. Online casinos, and crypto casinos like stake in particular, have absolutely changed the face of gambling in the US and addiction rates are skyrocketing everywhere because of it. As short as a few years ago, it was easy to watch a game on tv and not really notice the ads. But today? Every commercial break there’s a gambling add pushing the idea of winning vast sums at the click of a button through an instantly downloadable app.

It’s absolutely mind boggling how quickly the gambling landscape has changed and the country as a whole, and men from age 15-35 or so in particular, are wholly unprepared for it. These guys (and ladies) start with a few small sports bets or .10 spins on a slot and next thing they’re behind on all their bills, their accounts overdrawn and every credit card and other source of money is tapped out. It’s as bad as drug addiction and this is coming from someone who was an opiate addict for 10+ years. Compared to my addiction, the gambling addicts I know hit rock bottom in less than a quarter of the time and hide it better until then. So when it does come out, their problem is the equivalent of a familial nuclear bomb.

So is gambling fun? Sure. Can it be done it moderation? No question. But is it also extremely addictive and potentially a national hazard if we don’t properly control the industry? Absolutely. And so far we have let online casinos run rampant and that leaves the future looking like trouble

The post got deleted, but I checked the comments, and this one got my attention, and I have to agree with this guy!

There has never been such public advertising of casinos and loans as now, commercials are everywhere around. On the interent/tv/radio, whereever we turn around there are some comericals about gambling and loans. And even thou they say it's "Not for younger than 18" everyone hear it, we all hear it, so much hyprocisy it's unexplainable.

Just take a look at the last lines... Gambling is fun, but there should be some limits and restrictions! I don't wish my kid to watch gambling adds everytime they open youtube! I don't wish to see gambling adds in the morning promising "free money and bonuses" while I watch a show for kids...

We advertise casinos in our signatures, but I can't compare that with some other advertising metods that actually reach the kids more then grown up people. So when my kid hears on radio "just join and get some free money in the casino" how should I explain that?

[Stalker22]

I can guess what was there though. Was it a post from yet another addicted gambler who lost a lot of money and saying that gambling should banned everywhere? You are asking about my opinion, @Get-Paid.com? Here it is: Gambling should not be banned. Since some people, a minority, can't control their greed and suffer because of it, the vast majority of gamblers, responsible gamblers, shouldn't suffer because of the ban.

In fact, this 'concerned citizen' claims to have won a cool few million at the casino, yet feels compelled to air his grievances in a public letter targeting a single gambling platform. Sounds legit, right?

Completely agree. Online casinos, and crypto casinos like stake in particular, have absolutely changed the face of gambling in the US and addiction rates are skyrocketing everywhere because of it. As short as a few years ago, it was easy to watch a game on tv and not really notice the ads. But today? Every commercial break there’s a gambling add pushing the idea of winning vast sums at the click of a button through an instantly downloadable app.

It’s absolutely mind boggling how quickly the gambling landscape has changed and the country as a whole, and men from age 15-35 or so in particular, are wholly unprepared for it. These guys (and ladies) start with a few small sports bets or .10 spins on a slot and next thing they’re behind on all their bills, their accounts overdrawn and every credit card and other source of money is tapped out. It’s as bad as drug addiction and this is coming from someone who was an opiate addict for 10+ years. Compared to my addiction, the gambling addicts I know hit rock bottom in less than a quarter of the time and hide it better until then. So when it does come out, their problem is the equivalent of a familial nuclear bomb.

So is gambling fun? Sure. Can it be done it moderation? No question. But is it also extremely addictive and potentially a national hazard if we don’t properly control the industry? Absolutely. And so far we have let online casinos run rampant and that leaves the future looking like trouble

The post got deleted, but I checked the comments, and this one got my attention, and I have to agree with this guy!

I tend to agree too.  Ads seem to be everywhere these days.  But should we really point fingers at gambling companies? Would getting rid of gambling somehow make ads go away? Gambling companies are certainly not saints, but it is still a legitimate industry and we cannot ignore that ad agencies and media platforms are the real winners here.

[Agbe]

What's your opinion about this letter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b51kyk/dear_eddie_and_stake

 

The letter has deleted and I don't why. And some the comments I Saw there were interesting. "Stake is operated by human" oh yes and that is why the message or the letter was deleted from there. And if " Stake is banned, nothing changed". These are so.e of the comments there. And that is true because the company who did the thing is still exist therefore nothing changed from their crime. This is wat I saw in the link the Op provided for us to read before making any comments but we came late so the message has been deleted.

Op I don't what is in your mind, whether to op the thread keep foe people to make comments without knowing the content of the thread or to lock it if I will advise, you should lock the thread because the main message which the letter made you to create the thread has been deleted.

[Chibit01]

It's quite funny how an adult will write all his mind and yet go ahead to delete it could that be out of anger,fear or rage of regret.... Well think the person is wrote something negative about gambling to Eddie which makes him to decline from his intentions and delete the message maybe he will thinking that he don't suppose to send such message to Eddie it might be absurd in his second reasoning that might be a reason why he pull out and delete his message.....

On the other thought I wonder what this gambler is actually passing through maybe gamble addiction or he has had a huge loss that he could not bear anymore maybe he decided to talk to Eddie Maybe they should shut down gambling system or they should refund him even 5% of his lost it is actually not that funny but this man must be passing through alot right now or alot is passing through him right now........

Nevertheless let's be guided and never forget to bet with caution...

Thanks 😊👍

[Webetcoins]

The negative impact of gambling addictions and losses can never be overemphasized and for sure casinos find every possible means to market themselves and as long as gambling is legal there is nothing to be done about how the aggressive marketing approach of casino owners increases the rate of crisis.

Some things can be done for the aggressive marketing of casinos, it's either banning or restricting their advertisement campaigns either by governments or private sectors where they are promoting their services. In the recent past, Australia banned casino advertisements within the country saying that the country is losing billions of dollars every year to these casinos and they don't want that to happen.

So, if it seems that gambling advertisements and promotions are everywhere, they are aggressively marketing their services, you can't ask them to stop doing that because of course, they are running a business that is legal by the law and they are allowed to market their business, but if the places where they are promoting themselves, they can impose some rules and regulations about casino promotions.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

I think Stunna is, or at least was, Steve. Which position he has at stake, I don't know. Maybe one of the partners or something. At least he is also acting as a VIP host (I also had him in the past), is always on the stake stream and has other important stuff to do for their operations.

About the reddit post, too bad it's gone, would have loved to read it.

[Eternad]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

I think Stunna is, or at least was, Steve. Which position he has at stake, I don't know. Maybe one of the partners or something. At least he is also acting as a VIP host (I also had him in the past), is always on the stake stream and has other important stuff to do for their operations.

IIRC Stunna is one of the founding member of Stake. He/she was with Eddie when they founded Primedice that later introduced Stake.com as casino extension since primedice is only dedicated for dice game. Stunna is the one that handling all forum matters related to primedice before way back when they still have few employees. I think he is now doing excutive role that’s why he is rarely seen here but I believe he and eddie is the co-owner of primdice and probably Stake too.

About the reddit post, too bad it's gone, would have loved to read it.

I have a glimpse on that reddit post but I can’t post here word by word. The letter contains about complaintbcomment how Stake promote their casino through influencers all over the social media.

[CryptSafe]

I saw the headings of this thread and I got attracted to it but unfortunately the thread was deleted. However if OP had taken a screenshot of the post, it would have been okay for us to see and read to grabs the information there because anything anybody is saying that was posted might likely not be what was written.

The post I saw here with respect to what was purportedly written now deleted, I could understand that the poster was trying to pass across a message to the world. Could that post have anything to do with money being used for terrorism act or what?

I may likely deviate also from the open water is where the writer mentioned gambling as a tool for terrorism, this is quite confusing a bit for me

The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.
He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

[Haunebu]

The post I saw here with respect to what was purportedly written now deleted, I could understand that the poster was trying to pass across a message to the world. Could that post have anything to do with money being used for terrorism act or what?

Woah! Nothing like that. Op just talked about terrorism in order to convey how much bad Stake is doing in various ways, but it's all a load of nonsensical bullshit if I am being honest.

It's just one person complaining about Stake which is why I have no idea why several people are so curious about the contents of his letter. Pointless!

[CryptSafe]

The post I saw here with respect to what was purportedly written now deleted, I could understand that the poster was trying to pass across a message to the world. Could that post have anything to do with money being used for terrorism act or what?

Woah! Nothing like that. Op just talked about terrorism in order to convey how much bad Stake is doing in various ways, but it's all a load of nonsensical bullshit if I am being honest.

It's just one person complaining about Stake which is why I have no idea why several people are so curious about the contents of his letter. Pointless!

Okay. I get your point but I was curious when I saw the word terrorism because that alone calls attention but I must say  that such word  attract eye's with different meanings and I think we should be more careful mentioning such word here so as not to make people think otherwise as this is a global platform.

[OgNasty]

What's your opinion about this letter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b51kyk/dear_eddie_and_stake

 

The letter has deleted and I don't why. And some the comments I Saw there were interesting. "Stake is operated by human" oh yes and that is why the message or the letter was deleted from there. And if " Stake is banned, nothing changed". These are so.e of the comments there. And that is true because the company who did the thing is still exist therefore nothing changed from their crime. This is wat I saw in the link the Op provided for us to read before making any comments but we came late so the message has been deleted.

Op I don't what is in your mind, whether to op the thread keep foe people to make comments without knowing the content of the thread or to lock it if I will advise, you should lock the thread because the main message which the letter made you to create the thread has been deleted.

I would've liked to have read the letter and I'm a little disappointed that OP didn't at the very least quote it in the OP so that we could all have a chance to read it.  Did anyone manage to keep it?  I'm curious to have read it as people seem to be saying there were some good points in there, but I don't know even what the overall tone was about.  From the comments it seems like the author was upset that Stake pays people to promote for their service?  There's definitely worse things than paying people to promote your service, especially when it's entertainment.  I for one am glad that Stake gives back so much money to the community.  They even allow promoters to use their own referral link.  First class operation.

[Wiwo]

Has someone archived a letter? And who is Eddie? A user called Stunna? If Stunan is not Eddie, then who is Stunna? I'm just interested in.

Op probably ran into some unexpected issues due to which he deleted the letter pretty quickly which is why I doubt anyone archived the letter and it's not something really important that should have been archived in the first place.

Also, Eddie is the co-founder of Stake along with Stunna who is supposedly another co-founder. You can find Eddie's information pretty easily online.

Well I read through the letter when it was first posted and as far as I know, the letter is just some form of personal observation and burn out of bias judgement although he mentioned some sellent point as of what contribute to gambling addiction and negative experiences, it better we just focus more on personal experience and decipline instead of transfering all the blame to the casino and it owners.

Although we have so many people who may not have the ability to control our gambling drive and at such those that have uncontrollable gambling habits may need to use self exclusion since the casino may not be aware of and for such leads to unfavorable outcome.