Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?

[swogerino]

These are the same persons who at the first time Bitcoin goes down from where it is now they will say,you see it is not worth it,so I don't think is worth to be writing about these guys,they are plain losers the majority as they were skeptical to say the least while there could be a minority which only now have heard about Bitcoin and want to jump in,these are not losers,are just some delayed crypto owners.

I had predicted the new all time high to be in the end of 2025 and also many others but as always you never know what to expect from Bitcoin and here we are now,Q1 2024 already in the same level all time high of 2021,it even surpassed it a bit.

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[stomachgrowls]

These are the same persons who at the first time Bitcoin goes down from where it is now they will say,you see it is not worth it,so I don't think is worth to be writing about these guys,they are plain losers the majority as they were skeptical to say the least while there could be a minority which only now have heard about Bitcoin and want to jump in,these are not losers,are just some delayed crypto owners.

I had predicted the new all time high to be in the end of 2025 and also many others but as always you never know what to expect from Bitcoin and here we are now,Q1 2024 already in the same level all time high of 2021,it even surpassed it a bit.

Recognition and adoption is something that inevitable and completely or gradually rising up on which it would really be normal that there would really be new people who would really be investing
even into this current peak condition as we do say. If there would be no people would be buying on this point specially to those old investors or traders then whose gonna buy?
There would be no break out and there would really be no bull run if that happens. It is really just that good to see on where we are now on which the price is really that rising up
and could posssibly be able to to break those barriers or resistances.

There's no such thing about being foot on buying into these peaks considering that the price could reach out $100k or more then it would be still
a viable option that you could really be able to get.

[YUriy1991]

There's no such thing about being foot on buying into these peaks considering that the price could reach out $100k or more then it would be still
a viable option that you could really be able to get.

Traders and investors will also continue to try to increase the price of BTC because they know its potential in the future and of course what you say is very relevant and makes sense, even though the price of BTC is already above 100K, if someone comes and wants to buy again, who wants to hold on to it...

As far as I know, medium to long term investors are still accumulating Bitcoin, especially to prepare for the halving and the job of us small-timers is to just follow the mainstream and use the dollar cost averaging (DCA) strategy before the BTC price pumps up and climbs even higher in the future.

and I really believe that's when recognition and adoption comes.

[Faisal2202]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Bitcoin is available to anyone, but they have to act rather than just sitting and looking at it.  No one else can act for them.

A bitter one but that's the reality, you spit facts dear.

So some of those folks are going to end up starting and getting involved in bitcoin later.. and so there are advantages to folks who are well connected, but even folks in well-connected places are not taking actions to establish their stake in bitcoin.

I have seen people who have knowledge, or wants to get knowledge but don't want to get practical. Few days ago I have a talk with my uncle and I told him about how BTC is moving, where it was before ETFs and where it is now, and gave him a short tutorial about Halving, ETFs, etc. etc. In the end he asked, should we invest in it, what do you think, I said it's your choice, and he asked what do you prefer should I sell my car and invest the funds in BTC. I said no, you should not risk the money that is in your need. Only invest that is affordable to be lost. Why invest your bread money in it. He then gets uninterested I do not know why. So the point is, even if there are people in the neighborhood involved in BTC it does not mean in that geographical area there will be more people involved.

You seem to be thinking in short-term ways.. so yeah, you are trading.. not investing.. since Why would you need an exit plan if you still don't have enough BTC?  You already said that you don't have enough, which means keep stacking and don't stop.

I don't have enough BTC I agree, but I don't want to remain stuck for another cycle, I want to exit the market with the profit I will make, as I know after a bull run, a bearish cycle will start and then I will get the opportunity to buy BTC at low and thus can have more satoshis which mean more profit. So after another cycle, when the next bull run comes, I will be making a good profit, and then cycle to cycle things can go smoothly. If things not change. Am I wrong here, and yeah I do know investing means holding funds for more then 4 to 5 years, and I am holding funds for like 1 year now, which don't make me a investor, but I don't consider myself a trader too, as I don't trade often. Or should I consider myself.

Anyhow, you do what you like, but it sounds to me that you have hardly any clue about what you are attempting to achieve, including understanding the long term potential of bitcoin, including that you might need to consider bitcoin's long term potential so that you might better know why you are accumulating BTC and likely not needing to worry about exit until you have accumulated enough or more than enough, then after that you could consider following some kind of sustainable withdrawing plan and/or staking plan like I talk about in my sustainable withdrawal thread.

Thanks for the thread, By the way, what's your long-term plan or understand of BTC, I see something unique here, and would love to hear you out, I already stated my plan which is to follow cycle to cycle, but yours seems to be of holding more then 10 years, why? where you see BTC at. What if you die tomorrow and your funds go to waste, that's why I thought we should book some profit, exit the market, and enjoy life too. hehe. But what I understand after reading your words, is you are assuming to become financially free with some amount of BTC, is that possible. I do know people have become financially free with BTC but what's your point or take here. If you don't mind to share.

[Finestream]

maybe.. but not because bitcoin will not increase in price but because they could have maximized their profits by waiting and buying bitcoin when the price is going down bitcoin will still increase in price for the next following months and its “peak” would be nothing compared to bitcoin’s price right after halving

it’s their money in the end so if they feel they can do and invest their money no matter how high the price is then good for them

Of course, the best time to invest in the crypto market is when there is bearish season. However, there is no rule that prohibits one from buying even at its ATH, so most likely people will definitely buy using their hard-earned money as long as their mindset is that bitcoin price will certainly rise more in the next months or years. And as you’ve said, their money, their rules. And I’m not against in it, investing in bitcoin even at its ATH simply proves that you have a huge faith for bitcoin that it’s price will continue to grow despite how highly volatile it is. And as long as you are investing for long term, you can still maximize your profits when you only sell when your price goal will be achieved.

[Russlenat]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Actually they still  have the chances. For me, this ATH is  not the end of the Bitcoin price will be in the bullrun. It is not stupid, only quite late. But, nothing to regret. As long as they have known the idea and going to invest in Bitcoin, at least, without any doubt and panic, they still have the chances to take profits.

For, we are still not in the peak of the bullish era, we are heading for  this. So, the chances for rising up again, still very high.

We know that Bitcoin halving is still not happened yet, so, why should blame them with this word? Nothing to late. Just go on and make your own financial management when investing in crypto. Bitcoin - to - the - moon

Irregardless of its price, as long as one decides to chose bitcoin over altcoins, there will always be high chances  for them to benefit from their investment in the long run. Even if bitcoin reaches its peak, but the fact that there will be another bitcoin bull run in the next years, then hodling bitcoin for long term will always be worth the risk and wait.

Just don’t get tempted with FOMO and panic selling. It’s normal to expect some price correction after a big spike, but what is unusual is when you start selling even at a lower position which will definitely make you a big loser in the end.

[Out of mind]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

The Bitcoin market we have seen has continued to grow a lot, with a new record being set, and it's highest ATH Bitcoin. Although we are optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will increase until the halving, and the Bitcoin market is likely to go into a bit of a dumping after April. So if you invest from the current market then surely you can get some profit in the coming days, but it is not foolish. When you buy Bitcoin it will always lead you to profit, it is never stupid because Bitcoin always gives financial freedom to a user. As the bull season is about to begin after the halving, if you can invest from now and hold for a long time, good things await you. That's why you can invest in Bitcoin risk-free and hold for a long time, from which you will get a good amount of profit.

[JayJuanGee]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

Bitcoin is available to anyone, but they have to act rather than just sitting and looking at it.  No one else can act for them.

A bitter one but that's the reality, you spit facts dear.

So some of those folks are going to end up starting and getting involved in bitcoin later.. and so there are advantages to folks who are well connected, but even folks in well-connected places are not taking actions to establish their stake in bitcoin.

I have seen people who have knowledge, or wants to get knowledge but don't want to get practical. Few days ago I have a talk with my uncle and I told him about how BTC is moving, where it was before ETFs and where it is now, and gave him a short tutorial about Halving, ETFs, etc. etc. In the end he asked, should we invest in it, what do you think, I said it's your choice, and he asked what do you prefer should I sell my car and invest the funds in BTC. I said no, you should not risk the money that is in your need. Only invest that is affordable to be lost. Why invest your bread money in it. He then gets uninterested I do not know why. So the point is, even if there are people in the neighborhood involved in BTC it does not mean in that geographical area there will be more people involved.

Some people need a "friend in bitcoin" in order to introduce them to it and to be able to bounce ideas, and surely there are a lot of people who might think that they know bitcoin because they heard the word, yet they might not really understand bitcoin very well until they spend some time studying it, maybe staring with 10 hours and then 100 hours and then 500 hours and then 1,000 hours and then more, and so the more that they spend around bitcoin, then the more they will likely develop better ideas about it.  Surely there can be issues of misinformation and disinformation, so it might not always be clear if they are getting good information, and so in that regard, people are responsible for the development of their own critical thinking skills and also making sure that they are investing rather than gambling. even though people are free to do whatever they like, including gambling, even though it is likely better to be an investor than either a trader or a gambler, because investing does not take as many skills and/or luck like gambling and trading, and there are likely ways to make sure that you hedge yourself and allocate reasonably when you are investing rather than gambling.

You seem to be thinking in short-term ways.. so yeah, you are trading.. not investing.. since Why would you need an exit plan if you still don't have enough BTC?  You already said that you don't have enough, which means keep stacking and don't stop.

I don't have enough BTC I agree, but I don't want to remain stuck for another cycle, I want to exit the market with the profit I will make, as I know after a bull run, a bearish cycle will start and then I will get the opportunity to buy BTC at low and thus can have more satoshis which mean more profit.

It sounds like you have it all figured out.  Good luck with figuring out the top of the market and actually being able to buy back lower than you sold and also good luck with actually building something meaningful, since you probably don't even seem to understand what bitcoin is or the value of focusing on accumulation by buying rather than fucking around with trying to time the market. Sure, you might get lucky, but the odds are not exactly with you when you fuck around by selling the most pristine asset in the world and presume that you will be able to buy back lower and/or that you will be better off by trading rather than accumulating until you reach accumulation and/or over-accumulation status.

But, yeah of course, do what you like.  It is completely your choice how you manage your BTC accumulation.

So after another cycle, when the next bull run comes, I will be making a good profit, and then cycle to cycle things can go smoothly.

I would not presume to be able to make profits or to be better off by trading.

If things not change. Am I wrong here, and yeah I do know investing means holding funds for more then 4 to 5 years, and I am holding funds for like 1 year now, which don't make me a investor, but I don't consider myself a trader too, as I don't trade often. Or should I consider myself.

You can consider yourself by the goals that you create for yourself, and question whether you consider that selling is a good way to accumulate more BTC if you are saying that you don't have enough... . and you are free to do whatever you like in terms if you believe that selling is a way to accumulate more BTC..  You might end up being correct in your decision. That is your choice if you believe you know which way the BTC price is going to go and if you are able to sell in such a way that allows you to buy back more at a cheaper price.

By the way there are a lot of previous bitcoiners who have screwed themselves financially and psychologically by selling too many coins too soon and then sometimes ending up with no coins or just frustrating themselves with their trying to figure things out when likely the main thing to figure out is how to continuously stack sats until you have enough or more than enough, then it will become more clear what to do, but it can take 10 years or longer for any investor to get to a point that he has built up his portfolio and it starts to make sense to start to incorporate sales into the mix of how he is managing his BTC holdings and/or any other kind of investments that he has.

There are also alot of examples of guys who have way more bitcoin than other guys, even though there cost per bitcoin is way higher than the other guys, but the main idea is that they may well have 2x or 3x more bitcoin, which in the end, we can see that it is likely way better to be a guy who has more bitcoin rather than fewer bitcoin when it comes to having options to start to sell some of his bitcoin when the prices are going up.

Anyhow, you do what you like, but it sounds to me that you have hardly any clue about what you are attempting to achieve, including understanding the long term potential of bitcoin, including that you might need to consider bitcoin's long term potential so that you might better know why you are accumulating BTC and likely not needing to worry about exit until you have accumulated enough or more than enough, then after that you could consider following some kind of sustainable withdrawing plan and/or staking plan like I talk about in my sustainable withdrawal thread.

Thanks for the thread, By the way, what's your long-term plan or understand of BTC, I see something unique here, and would love to hear you out, I already stated my plan which is to follow cycle to cycle, but yours seems to be of holding more then 10 years, why? where you see BTC at.

When I say hold bitcoin for 10 years or more, I am not talking about myself.  I am talking about guys brand new to bitcoin and they don't seem to know what the fuck they are doing.  The think that they are going to trade bitcoin in order to build up their bitcoin, and that is not how you do it.  When I came to bitcoin in late 2013, I already had been investing for more than 20 years, so I had already built up a pretty decently-sized traditional investment portfolio, so I was looking for something to add to my investment portfolio that was kind of a hedge against the dollar. so I purposefully thought that bitcoin was going to fit into my already existing investment portfolio.  Initially I gave myself a budget to accumulate for 6 months, and then after the first six months I largely extended my same budget for another 6 months.  After that first year, I reassessed again, and I concluded that I had gotten close to 10% of my overall investment portfolio into bitcoin, so I thought that was a pretty good place to be, and so I started to consider that I had reached my bitcoin accumulation investment target, and that was at the end of 2014... but then the whole of 2015 the bitcoin prices stayed around the mid $200s for most of the year, and even though I was having some cashflow issues in that year, I continued to modestly accumulate bitcoin through 2015, and towards the middle or end of 2015, I started to consider that I had overly accumulated into bitcoin because I had gotten my holdings up to around 13.5% (when my target was only 10%)...

So I figured out strategies to just try to sell on the way up and to buy when the price dips, but to largely consider that I was ONLY going to sell no more than the extra 3.5% that I had accumulated, so largely I have been selling on the way up since 2015, and I never really ever depleted the extra of my BTC holdings, so I have pretty much considered my holdings to be in a state of overaccumulation since 2015.. and currently my BTC is close to 90% of my overall investment portfolio., and the main reason is due to bitcoin out performing all other assets.  You can see my allocations  and the timeline in this post.

What if you die tomorrow and your funds go to waste, that's why I thought we should book some profit, exit the market, and enjoy life too. hehe.

You can do what you like.  That sounds dumb and short-sighted.  

Merely because someone holds value in an asset does not necessarily mean that he is suffering.  

At a certain point the investment can pay for your whole life style and even beyond your own standard of living without your having to work... but you have to get there first, and so yeah, you can keep working and having fun and never really building up an investment portfolio. That's your choice.

If you look at my post about the effects of compounding, you might be able to better understand and appreciate how compounding works, and so recognize and appreciate that bitcoin has largely compounded more than 256 times since the days that it was $250 in 2015.. .. so if you cash out your profits a lot along the way so that you can "enjoy life" then you likely will continue to live within mediocre means rather than being able to really bank upon the power of your investment.  At the same time, you do not necessarily need to hold onto all of your investment since 2015 when it was 250 in order to experience the compounding effects, but you have to have some ability to defer gratification and to build until you get to such a point.

So don't presume that I have not been able to spend a lot of money since 2015 merely based on the fact that I still have a large portion of my coins.. because there are ways to just cash out very small amounts of coins, but since they had appreciated so much, cashing them out does not have much of an affect on the size of the BTC holdings..

and again, from my point of view you have to get to a point of sufficient accumulation and/or overaccumulation before your plans to be cashing out parts of your bitcoin holding starts to make sense.. because if you are cashing out before you reached such point, then you are likely never going to get to a point of overaccumulation until you change your mindset and how you treat your investment into bitcoin.

Again.. do what you like.  It is your choice.  The bitcoin path is filled with a bunch of guys who say that they wished that they would not have sold so many of their coins because they are never going to be able to accumulate back the amount that they sold.  

And there are also those of us who have way more coins than we would ever be able to accumulate if we were to have to start over in our accumulation journey.. some of us have a much smaller stack than we started with, but we still have figured out various ways to rake profits and/or to engage in sustainable withdrawal of our BTC holdings on a regular basis... yet again, the key to starting such journey is to accumulate enough coins first and to overaccumulate, and it seems to me that the way to accumulate and overaccumulate is by buying coins. not by selling coins.

But what I understand after reading your words, is you are assuming to become financially free with some amount of BTC, is that possible. I do know people have become financially free with BTC but what's your point or take here. If you don't mind to share.

You can establish whatever might be your entry-level fuck you status.  I use $2 million as an example of default entry-level fuck you status in my chart, and I use that amount because it used to be $1 million prior to March 2020, and now I consider it to be $2 million, but you can figure out the amount that works for you, and you can see that the number of bitcoins that are required to get to that level and then to be able to shoot to accumulate an amount in which your entry-level fuck you status crosses over into the number of coins that you have, and of course, the number of coins that it takes to reach that level has been going down with the passage of time.

Your ability to be financially free could be ONLY with bitcoin or it could be with bitcoin and other assets that you might own.. You have to figure out what works for you.

maybe.. but not because bitcoin will not increase in price but because they could have maximized their profits by waiting and buying bitcoin when the price is going down bitcoin will still increase in price for the next following months and its “peak” would be nothing compared to bitcoin’s price right after halving

it’s their money in the end so if they feel they can do and invest their money no matter how high the price is then good for them

Of course, the best time to invest in the crypto market is when there is bearish season.

We are not talking about shitcoins here.  Fuck crypto, and/or shitcoins.

However, there is no rule that prohibits one from buying even at its ATH, so most likely people will definitely buy using their hard-earned money as long as their mindset is that bitcoin price will certainly rise more in the next months or years. And as you’ve said, their money, their rules. And I’m not against in it, investing in bitcoin even at its ATH simply proves that you have a huge faith for bitcoin that it’s price will continue to grow despite how highly volatile it is. And as long as you are investing for long term, you can still maximize your profits when you only sell when your price goal will be achieved.

Oh?  Great. at least to seem to know that we are talking about bitcoin.

[Winterfrost]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

this kind of question mostly suggest that you're looking at those buying at the current price from the angle of a trader. You know, there was once upon a time when $20k was the peak at that time and those that bought at that period of time would have probably thought this same way and some would have refused buying basically due to the fear of uncertainty that a new ATH wouldn't emerge again. But look at us now, we've climbed above $40k to $60k and now creating a new record that's even above $70k. Isn't that a pure indication that you're never too late to start investing?

The real fools are those short sighted individuals that feel Bitcoin will go bearish anytime soon. Just sit back and watch countries adopting Bitcoin and it popularity reaching to all the knucks and corners of the world and that's when the value of your investment will make a whole lot of sense to you.

[Dump3er]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

The first thing that I recommend people getting right is to understand that BTC is BTC and nothing else. When the first shit coin hype broke out in 2017, everyone thought they have literally mastered these 9 factors, but the truth is that firstly you could pick any of the coins and it went up, and secondly most of them lost money short-term, mid-term and long-term. I assume that most of the fools from back then learned the lesson that BTC can make you lose money short-term, is unlikely to make you lose money mid-term, and history has proven that none of the people who invested at any point in time during the last 1.5 decades have lost a dime.

This is really the first thing to get right and I mention this because people often talk about bitcoin as a placeholder for any coin on coinmarketcap. Sometimes people ask me whether they should invest in BTC and I am holding back because I generally don't like giving investment advice when I am not entirely sure how people will use my words to put their money into BTC. So what I say is "if you say you want to invest in BTC, then invest in BTC, not X-coin, Y-coin or Z-coin or Dogecoin, or ShibaInu (or what its name is...).

I have had several conversations where people bashed BTC, but it turned out that only a portion of their investment was BTC. This is a very common experience and it's bad because some of them do indeed the 9 principle individual factors right and they are well educated, sometimes hold a degree in finance, but they have so little clue and greed still plays a role that they decide to split their portfolios such that 10% is BTC and 90% are shit coins. Like serious shit coins. If someone tells me they buy Monero for a reason, I understand that. I hold some Monero and I think it has its place. But the vast majority has no place in the industry. Now as long as someone does have a reasonable explanation (other than greed and the hope for 1000x) as to why they picked a certain coin, well, I couldn't care less then. But I do still get to hear from people that they want this thing called BTC, but instead they spread the money all over the place in coins I haven't even heard of before and then when the next correction is inbound, the portfolio is stuck, if not dead. 

There is too much gambling, so I know you wrote your guide "9 principle individual factors" exclusively for BTC, but perhaps I would add one more principle and put it first, which should be called "BTC is BTC, and nothing else". If people study BTC and would get the idea behind it right, all the characteristics and core principles, they would better understand why BTC has a unique position in the industry and why it is the real cryptocurrency that is by far the least likely to fail ever. Afterwards, getting an investment plan right is essentially the perfect plan. Not getting BTC right in the sense that BTC is only BTC, could nullify the most sophisticated investment plans.

[lienfaye]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Well, the question is why now? We have a sufficient time to accumulate during bearish season before and it is quite long to fill our bags. It's crucial to know on why these people (you're talking about) are interested just now the price is already rising. If their intention is to join the ride and don't want to miss the chance then their mindset can lead them to disappointment once the price move downward again. Because it's unpredictable and we can't really pin point when might the price fall after reaching another ATH.

Anyway, it's never too late to invest because it depends on us if we still want to buy even the price is already expensive. If you truly believe in Bitcoin and seeing yourself holding your Bitcoin for long term then that's a good mindset. Because it's important that you have knowledge of what you're getting into and not solely influence of hype as to why you decided to invest.

[Smack That Ace]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Well, the question is why now? We have a sufficient time to accumulate during bearish season before and it is quite long to fill our bags. It's crucial to know on why these people (you're talking about) are interested just now the price is already rising. If their intention is to join the ride and don't want to miss the chance then their mindset can lead them to disappointment once the price move downward again. Because it's unpredictable and we can't really pin point when might the price fall after reaching another ATH.

Anyway, it's never too late to invest because it depends on us if we still want to buy even the price is already expensive. If you truly believe in Bitcoin and seeing yourself holding your Bitcoin for long term then that's a good mindset. Because it's important that you have knowledge of what you're getting into and not solely influence of hype as to why you decided to invest.

Not everyone is like us, not everyone knows about bitcoin and understands bitcoin like we do. The majority of the world's population is still unaware of bitcoin and that is why people always say that we are still in the early stages of the bitcoin revolution. I think after the ETFs were approved and bitcoin hit its ATH, it attracted a large number of new investors into the market. But when they see the price of bitcoin, they will not be shocked because the price of bitcoin is really too high if we compare prices from many years ago, and it's understandable that they hesitate to buy because they don't have much knowledge about bitcoin.

Frankly speaking, whether investing now is the right decision or not is difficult to answer because no one knows what will happen in the future. I think it will all depend on each person's level of risk tolerance and knowledge.

[bitzizzix]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Well, the question is why now? We have a sufficient time to accumulate during bearish season before and it is quite long to fill our bags. It's crucial to know on why these people (you're talking about) are interested just now the price is already rising. If their intention is to join the ride and don't want to miss the chance then their mindset can lead them to disappointment once the price move downward again. Because it's unpredictable and we can't really pin point when might the price fall after reaching another ATH.

Anyway, it's never too late to invest because it depends on us if we still want to buy even the price is already expensive. If you truly believe in Bitcoin and seeing yourself holding your Bitcoin for long term then that's a good mindset. Because it's important that you have knowledge of what you're getting into and not solely influence of hype as to why you decided to invest.

Not everyone is like us, not everyone knows about bitcoin and understands bitcoin like we do. The majority of the world's population is still unaware of bitcoin and that is why people always say that we are still in the early stages of the bitcoin revolution. I think after the ETFs were approved and bitcoin hit its ATH, it attracted a large number of new investors into the market. But when they see the price of bitcoin, they will not be shocked because the price of bitcoin is really too high if we compare prices from many years ago, and it's understandable that they hesitate to buy because they don't have much knowledge about bitcoin.

Frankly speaking, whether investing now is the right decision or not is difficult to answer because no one knows what will happen in the future. I think it will all depend on each person's level of risk tolerance and knowledge.

It is true, Bitcoin still has a long way to go to be accepted, known and involved in it for the whole world. And I think we all know that there are still many people out there who don't know about Bitcoin, and maybe most of them only know about Bitcoin because they have heard or seen it on television, social media and so on. However, they don't really care and just know, in contrast to those who do research or are curious and end up looking for information themselves that allows them to get involved.
So this can be said to be the beginning of Bitcoin which in the end Bitcoin will continue to grow and develop on its own, coupled with the reported approval of an ETF which may influence new interest in getting involved.
And only intelligent people can be interested in Bitcoin in their own way and research and their own way of gaining knowledge and understanding about Bitcoin.
When the value of Bitcoin increases significantly like it has now, this can create a situation where some people may be hesitant to buy at such a high price and perhaps this can lead to a lack of demand. But actually if they really want to stay involved they can buy it in small amounts, namely Satoshi, and in my opinion let Bitcoin run or move by itself. Whatever the reason, the price of Bitcoin will continue to move up even though it always experiences declines and those who do not have knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin will ultimately do it themselves and in their own way.

[JayJuanGee]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

The first thing that I recommend people getting right is to understand that BTC is BTC and nothing else. When the first shit coin hype broke out in 2017, everyone thought they have literally mastered these 9 factors, but the truth is that firstly you could pick any of the coins and it went up, and secondly most of them lost money short-term, mid-term and long-term. I assume that most of the fools from back then learned the lesson that BTC can make you lose money short-term, is unlikely to make you lose money mid-term, and history has proven that none of the people who invested at any point in time during the last 1.5 decades have lost a dime.

This is really the first thing to get right and I mention this because people often talk about bitcoin as a placeholder for any coin on coinmarketcap. Sometimes people ask me whether they should invest in BTC and I am holding back because I generally don't like giving investment advice when I am not entirely sure how people will use my words to put their money into BTC. So what I say is "if you say you want to invest in BTC, then invest in BTC, not X-coin, Y-coin or Z-coin or Dogecoin, or ShibaInu (or what its name is...).

I have had several conversations where people bashed BTC, but it turned out that only a portion of their investment was BTC. This is a very common experience and it's bad because some of them do indeed the 9 principle individual factors right and they are well educated, sometimes hold a degree in finance, but they have so little clue and greed still plays a role that they decide to split their portfolios such that 10% is BTC and 90% are shit coins. Like serious shit coins. If someone tells me they buy Monero for a reason, I understand that. I hold some Monero and I think it has its place. But the vast majority has no place in the industry. Now as long as someone does have a reasonable explanation (other than greed and the hope for 1000x) as to why they picked a certain coin, well, I couldn't care less then. But I do still get to hear from people that they want this thing called BTC, but instead they spread the money all over the place in coins I haven't even heard of before and then when the next correction is inbound, the portfolio is stuck, if not dead. 

There is too much gambling, so I know you wrote your guide "9 principle individual factors" exclusively for BTC, but perhaps I would add one more principle and put it first, which should be called "BTC is BTC, and nothing else". If people study BTC and would get the idea behind it right, all the characteristics and core principles, they would better understand why BTC has a unique position in the industry and why it is the real cryptocurrency that is by far the least likely to fail ever. Afterwards, getting an investment plan right is essentially the perfect plan. Not getting BTC right in the sense that BTC is only BTC, could nullify the most sophisticated investment plans.

I don't disagree with anything that you are saying in regards to bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and even that certain kinds of investment presumptions do not apply to shitcoins as they apply to bitcoin, yet the 9 factors that I highlight for individuals to consider in regards to their investment approach largely meant to broadly address concepts of personal finances, skills and psychology in the area, so they are very general.. and there are a lot of places in a lot of my posts that I talk about bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and all of that.  So I question whether there would be any necessity to say something like: "** these 9 factors apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins.".... Of course, there likely would need to be an explanation regarding why they apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins (in terms of bitcoin having fundamental long term value and shitcoins don't tend to have that - absent some kind of way to figure out that some shitcoin actually does have some kind of investment case, besides pump and dump and already being correlated with bitcoin  ... as a copy cat, affinity scam.. or just that their price movement correlates with bitcoin - apart from various pump and dump marketing that they might achieve from time to time).

Sometimes it can be better to just focus on what bitcoin is rather than even talking about shitcoins and/or saying that bitcoin is not a shitcoin, yet there are so many people out there who have hardly any clue about what bitcoin is and they just presume they are all either the same or very similar, and that is part of the reason that some people  cannot even bring themselves to say the word bitcoin.. so they talk about crypto. as if there were even such a specific thing as crypto that any of us could buy and/or invest into.

[Chibit01]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

The first thing that I recommend people getting right is to understand that BTC is BTC and nothing else. When the first shit coin hype broke out in 2017, everyone thought they have literally mastered these 9 factors, but the truth is that firstly you could pick any of the coins and it went up, and secondly most of them lost money short-term, mid-term and long-term. I assume that most of the fools from back then learned the lesson that BTC can make you lose money short-term, is unlikely to make you lose money mid-term, and history has proven that none of the people who invested at any point in time during the last 1.5 decades have lost a dime.

This is really the first thing to get right and I mention this because people often talk about bitcoin as a placeholder for any coin on coinmarketcap. Sometimes people ask me whether they should invest in BTC and I am holding back because I generally don't like giving investment advice when I am not entirely sure how people will use my words to put their money into BTC. So what I say is "if you say you want to invest in BTC, then invest in BTC, not X-coin, Y-coin or Z-coin or Dogecoin, or ShibaInu (or what its name is...).

I have had several conversations where people bashed BTC, but it turned out that only a portion of their investment was BTC. This is a very common experience and it's bad because some of them do indeed the 9 principle individual factors right and they are well educated, sometimes hold a degree in finance, but they have so little clue and greed still plays a role that they decide to split their portfolios such that 10% is BTC and 90% are shit coins. Like serious shit coins. If someone tells me they buy Monero for a reason, I understand that. I hold some Monero and I think it has its place. But the vast majority has no place in the industry. Now as long as someone does have a reasonable explanation (other than greed and the hope for 1000x) as to why they picked a certain coin, well, I couldn't care less then. But I do still get to hear from people that they want this thing called BTC, but instead they spread the money all over the place in coins I haven't even heard of before and then when the next correction is inbound, the portfolio is stuck, if not dead.  

There is too much gambling, so I know you wrote your guide "9 principle individual factors" exclusively for BTC, but perhaps I would add one more principle and put it first, which should be called "BTC is BTC, and nothing else". If people study BTC and would get the idea behind it right, all the characteristics and core principles, they would better understand why BTC has a unique position in the industry and why it is the real cryptocurrency that is by far the least likely to fail ever. Afterwards, getting an investment plan right is essentially the perfect plan. Not getting BTC right in the sense that BTC is only BTC, could nullify the most sophisticated investment plans.

I don't disagree with anything that you are saying in regards to bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and even that certain kinds of investment presumptions do not apply to shitcoins as they apply to bitcoin, yet the 9 factors that I highlight for individuals to consider in regards to their investment approach largely meant to broadly address concepts of personal finances, skills and psychology in the area, so they are very general.. and there are a lot of places in a lot of my posts that I talk about bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and all of that.  So I question whether there would be any necessity to say something like: "** these 9 factors apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins.".... Of course, there likely would need to be an explanation regarding why they apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins (in terms of bitcoin having fundamental long term value and shitcoins don't tend to have that - absent some kind of way to figure out that some shitcoin actually does have some kind of investment case, besides pump and dump and already being correlated with bitcoin  ... as a copy cat, affinity scam.. or just that their price movement correlates with bitcoin - apart from various pump and dump marketing that they might achieve from time to time).

Sometimes it can be better to just focus on what bitcoin is rather than even talking about shitcoins and/or saying that bitcoin is not a shitcoin, yet there are so many people out there who have hardly any clue about what bitcoin is and they just presume they are all either the same or very similar, and that is part of the reason that some people  cannot even bring themselves to say the word bitcoin.. so they talk about crypto. as if there were even such a specific thing as crypto that any of us could buy and/or invest into.

Sure brother can you imagine having such analysis today's crypto cap 💰 and some are still talking about shitcoins that has no value to where bitcoin....... Just check in today's worth

🥇 #BTC: $72,241 | 24H: +0.04%
🔵 #ETH: $4,030 | 24H: -0.61%
💰 #SOL: $150.90 | 24H: +1.57%
👽 #TON: $3.70 | 24H: +19.26%

🔥#trending
#GALA: $0.07 | 24H: -4.61%

📈top gainer
#AMP: $0.01366499 | 24H: +155.86%

📉top loser
#TRUMP: $8.41 | 24H: -12.43%

With is will you ever talk about shitcoins many of them are all left far behind without returning or facing bitcoin 😭😭😭 in any way well I will say f**k shitcoins.......

Soon bitcoin will be adopted as gunpowder if you don't have it you will become it's victim........

Thanks

[Chibit01]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

The first thing that I recommend people getting right is to understand that BTC is BTC and nothing else. When the first shit coin hype broke out in 2017, everyone thought they have literally mastered these 9 factors, but the truth is that firstly you could pick any of the coins and it went up, and secondly most of them lost money short-term, mid-term and long-term. I assume that most of the fools from back then learned the lesson that BTC can make you lose money short-term, is unlikely to make you lose money mid-term, and history has proven that none of the people who invested at any point in time during the last 1.5 decades have lost a dime.

This is really the first thing to get right and I mention this because people often talk about bitcoin as a placeholder for any coin on coinmarketcap. Sometimes people ask me whether they should invest in BTC and I am holding back because I generally don't like giving investment advice when I am not entirely sure how people will use my words to put their money into BTC. So what I say is "if you say you want to invest in BTC, then invest in BTC, not X-coin, Y-coin or Z-coin or Dogecoin, or ShibaInu (or what its name is...).

I have had several conversations where people bashed BTC, but it turned out that only a portion of their investment was BTC. This is a very common experience and it's bad because some of them do indeed the 9 principle individual factors right and they are well educated, sometimes hold a degree in finance, but they have so little clue and greed still plays a role that they decide to split their portfolios such that 10% is BTC and 90% are shit coins. Like serious shit coins. If someone tells me they buy Monero for a reason, I understand that. I hold some Monero and I think it has its place. But the vast majority has no place in the industry. Now as long as someone does have a reasonable explanation (other than greed and the hope for 1000x) as to why they picked a certain coin, well, I couldn't care less then. But I do still get to hear from people that they want this thing called BTC, but instead they spread the money all over the place in coins I haven't even heard of before and then when the next correction is inbound, the portfolio is stuck, if not dead.  

There is too much gambling, so I know you wrote your guide "9 principle individual factors" exclusively for BTC, but perhaps I would add one more principle and put it first, which should be called "BTC is BTC, and nothing else". If people study BTC and would get the idea behind it right, all the characteristics and core principles, they would better understand why BTC has a unique position in the industry and why it is the real cryptocurrency that is by far the least likely to fail ever. Afterwards, getting an investment plan right is essentially the perfect plan. Not getting BTC right in the sense that BTC is only BTC, could nullify the most sophisticated investment plans.

I don't disagree with anything that you are saying in regards to bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and even that certain kinds of investment presumptions do not apply to shitcoins as they apply to bitcoin, yet the 9 factors that I highlight for individuals to consider in regards to their investment approach largely meant to broadly address concepts of personal finances, skills and psychology in the area, so they are very general.. and there are a lot of places in a lot of my posts that I talk about bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and all of that.  So I question whether there would be any necessity to say something like: "** these 9 factors apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins.".... Of course, there likely would need to be an explanation regarding why they apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins (in terms of bitcoin having fundamental long term value and shitcoins don't tend to have that - absent some kind of way to figure out that some shitcoin actually does have some kind of investment case, besides pump and dump and already being correlated with bitcoin  ... as a copy cat, affinity scam.. or just that their price movement correlates with bitcoin - apart from various pump and dump marketing that they might achieve from time to time).

Sometimes it can be better to just focus on what bitcoin is rather than even talking about shitcoins and/or saying that bitcoin is not a shitcoin, yet there are so many people out there who have hardly any clue about what bitcoin is and they just presume they are all either the same or very similar, and that is part of the reason that some people  cannot even bring themselves to say the word bitcoin.. so they talk about crypto. as if there were even such a specific thing as crypto that any of us could buy and/or invest into.

Sure brother can you imagine having such analysis today's crypto cap 💰 and some are still talking about shitcoins that has no value to where bitcoin....... Just check in today's worth

🥇 #BTC: $72,241 | 24H: +0.04%
🔵 #ETH: $4,030 | 24H: -0.61%
💰 #SOL: $150.90 | 24H: +1.57%
👽 #TON: $3.70 | 24H: +19.26%

🔥#trending
#GALA: $0.07 | 24H: -4.61%

📈top gainer
#AMP: $0.01366499 | 24H: +155.86%

📉top loser
#TRUMP: $8.41 | 24H: -12.43%

With is will you ever talk about shitcoins many of them are all left far behind without returning or facing bitcoin 😭😭😭 in any way well I will say f**k shitcoins.......

Soon bitcoin will be adopted as gunpowder if you don't have it you will become it's victim........

Thanks

Again let's  review BTC a little where do we go from here? 💰

My friend ask me... saying   What coin should I buy for my portfolio?". Today I decided to analyze BTC, as many people are interested in it. Let's break it down..............

I haven't had time to reply to that my friend but is here I decided to bring it here so he can fello my thread and learn more from a others aswell...............

📝 Yesterday bitcoin on futures updated the global ATH. After that we immediately got an instant pullback down to $71k. Now the price is going to recover again. And then the question arises: "Maybe this is not the end?" (initially I thought that after touching the ATH we will see a downward correction)..............

Most of the market players are expecting exactly a correction, but as we know the crowd is mostly wrong. Also, if you look at the chart of how BTC was updating ATH at $20,000 in 2020, you will see a similar picture as now. There was no drop at all. The price consolidated and continued to rise......

 The general trend of the market is still long. I don't see any strong preconditions for a long short right now. Therefore, I do not advise you to enter a short position for the medium term. Short-term trades are the maximum. I think we will still see an upward movement......

Thanks comrades

[I_Anime]

yeah they should be considering these 9 factors, yet even if they don't really know all of the answers the 9 factors, it does not mean that they should wait in terms of getting started right away..

I did not know the answers to some of the questions or factors in that thread, but I have been accumulating BTC for over a 1 year now. So this proves, that taking one step is a necessary thing toward leaning new things, On the way I did learn a lot of things and made some mistakes as well, and in the future will make too, but learn new things also.

Everyone should be able to know the basics of his own finances, and of course the more that you invest into something like bitcoin, and if you want to attempt to be aggressive in your bitcoin, investment, then you are going to need to get in touch with learning better each of the 9 factors - each one has several subcomponents that we can build in any direction yet at the same time, we might not necessarily know some of the various facets and maybe how much we have analyzed them.

Some people don't want to analyze anything and claim to just shoot from their feelings or their intuitions, so yeah, there might be some folks who don't consider themselves to be analyzing, but they still are likely to have knowledge regarding where they are at in regards to the 9 factors and some of the ways that the 9 factors can by micro-analyzed...

And for sure, don't get me wrong about knowing the 9 factors since I suggest that it is better to just get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible, and you can figure out where you personally sit with each of the 9 factors as you go, and with the passage of time.

The first thing that I recommend people getting right is to understand that BTC is BTC and nothing else. When the first shit coin hype broke out in 2017, everyone thought they have literally mastered these 9 factors, but the truth is that firstly you could pick any of the coins and it went up, and secondly most of them lost money short-term, mid-term and long-term. I assume that most of the fools from back then learned the lesson that BTC can make you lose money short-term, is unlikely to make you lose money mid-term, and history has proven that none of the people who invested at any point in time during the last 1.5 decades have lost a dime.

This is really the first thing to get right and I mention this because people often talk about bitcoin as a placeholder for any coin on coinmarketcap. Sometimes people ask me whether they should invest in BTC and I am holding back because I generally don't like giving investment advice when I am not entirely sure how people will use my words to put their money into BTC. So what I say is "if you say you want to invest in BTC, then invest in BTC, not X-coin, Y-coin or Z-coin or Dogecoin, or ShibaInu (or what its name is...).

I have had several conversations where people bashed BTC, but it turned out that only a portion of their investment was BTC. This is a very common experience and it's bad because some of them do indeed the 9 principle individual factors right and they are well educated, sometimes hold a degree in finance, but they have so little clue and greed still plays a role that they decide to split their portfolios such that 10% is BTC and 90% are shit coins. Like serious shit coins. If someone tells me they buy Monero for a reason, I understand that. I hold some Monero and I think it has its place. But the vast majority has no place in the industry. Now as long as someone does have a reasonable explanation (other than greed and the hope for 1000x) as to why they picked a certain coin, well, I couldn't care less then. But I do still get to hear from people that they want this thing called BTC, but instead they spread the money all over the place in coins I haven't even heard of before and then when the next correction is inbound, the portfolio is stuck, if not dead. 

There is too much gambling, so I know you wrote your guide "9 principle individual factors" exclusively for BTC, but perhaps I would add one more principle and put it first, which should be called "BTC is BTC, and nothing else". If people study BTC and would get the idea behind it right, all the characteristics and core principles, they would better understand why BTC has a unique position in the industry and why it is the real cryptocurrency that is by far the least likely to fail ever. Afterwards, getting an investment plan right is essentially the perfect plan. Not getting BTC right in the sense that BTC is only BTC, could nullify the most sophisticated investment plans.

I don't disagree with anything that you are saying in regards to bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and even that certain kinds of investment presumptions do not apply to shitcoins as they apply to bitcoin, yet the 9 factors that I highlight for individuals to consider in regards to their investment approach largely meant to broadly address concepts of personal finances, skills and psychology in the area, so they are very general.. and there are a lot of places in a lot of my posts that I talk about bitcoin first and fuck shitcoins and all of that.  So I question whether there would be any necessity to say something like: "** these 9 factors apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins.".... Of course, there likely would need to be an explanation regarding why they apply to bitcoin and not to shitcoins (in terms of bitcoin having fundamental long term value and shitcoins don't tend to have that - absent some kind of way to figure out that some shitcoin actually does have some kind of investment case, besides pump and dump and already being correlated with bitcoin  ... as a copy cat, affinity scam.. or just that their price movement correlates with bitcoin - apart from various pump and dump marketing that they might achieve from time to time).

Sometimes it can be better to just focus on what bitcoin is rather than even talking about shitcoins and/or saying that bitcoin is not a shitcoin, yet there are so many people out there who have hardly any clue about what bitcoin is and they just presume they are all either the same or very similar, and that is part of the reason that some people  cannot even bring themselves to say the word bitcoin.. so they talk about crypto. as if there were even such a specific thing as crypto that any of us could buy and/or invest into.

finally have been looking for this thread concerning the the "9 factors apply to bitcoin " . I would have to save this link now  on my device, I've came across it once but couldn't recall where I came across it, and I really need it in order to secure a smooth and healthy investment (bitcoin holding). Now have finally found am going to read it all through don't really care if take me  a day because I know what I pass through those days due to laziness and lacking of zeal to research.  And the more knowledge I gather  concerning how bitcoin and bitcoin investment work the more I will be able to secure the kind of investment (bitcoin holding) I want for self. And I believe going through such  thread ( JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas) and some research,  will help me to improve my principles in my accumulation of bitcoin and my holding.

The little have red in the thread concerning the 9 factors apply to bitcoin as already prove that such principles are not for shitcoins but for bitcoin coins only, so if you use such principles in some shitcoins I would say , sorry for your loss. But applying such principles in your bitcoin accumulation , will help you to secure a good investment for yourself. Alot of people that lack this principles would find it difficult to secure a good holding or investment for themselves. Like withdrawing their investment in a premature state , when the investment have yield non profit or less profit due to poor planning during their accumulation of bitcoin.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

Buying Bitcoin in conditions like now is still the best option if the goal is to hold it for the long term rather than sitting around doing nothing. Because we can see that there are many people who are starting to regret it now because they are still afraid of buying Bitcoin in the past. So people who already believe in Bitcoin don't need to be afraid to continue buying at this time if they still have the ability to use the money and put it into Bitcoin as a better investment option for ourselves.

There is no option for those who have not bought at all and accumulating bitcoin at any price still looks better than nothing. If people understand investing in bitcoin and are able to hold it for the long term then buying at any price still looks good. Because if they buy at a more expensive price but their knowledge about investing is not good they will actually experience panic when the price of bitcoin experiences a sharp decline, so they decided to sell in the wrong period. It is important to have knowledge about investment so that someone can make a more optimal investment plan because if they are wrong they will experience unexpected losses.

Investors with small capital should not be confused with investors who have large capital because the stages of buying Bitcoin for long-term purposes are slightly different in the methods they will use. But personally, I will continue to use a method that doesn't make it difficult for me when I want to buy whatever I want because this can at least help me accumulate the capital I have even though what I want to buy is the best asset like Bitcoin.

All decisions must be taken based on knowledge that does not lead us to loss. I mean when we don't have a lot of money to be involved in investing then there should be a way that we can use to increase the amount of bitcoin ownership. For example, using the DCA pattern to collect so that even though our capital is small, it can be used more appropriately to buy bitcoin. This is different from people who have good finances because they have the opportunity to accumulate larger amounts.

[Belarge]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Our major concerns is making profits from the market, anything more than that means it's off target. Bitcoin hitting ATH is another measure for these investors to start making profits on their ends. It's quite improving to see big winnings on these ends. The correction of the market doesn't last longer because it's more likely an opportunity for those that missed out on the big chances to explore and give good form. Don't panic because the current investors anticipating their funds on bitcoins, they know exactly what they're doing, though to be on the safer side, make good entries on bitcoin early.

[Mame89]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

Does people who invested in 2017 ATH fools? Or the ones that did it two years ago fools?
Basically everyone invested in Bitcoin at the time of the current ATH made profit since they could sell Bitcoin more than the price they bought it for.
Bitcoin drove all the market up and many cryptocurrencies made a record price which is good for everyone

I agree with what you said. Investing in bitcoin during ATH is not stupid, look at the history of bitcoin over time, do they look stupid, do they regret not buying bitcoin at that time or regret selling bitcoin at that time. This also applies at the moment, btc in the last few days has just formed a new ATH, but many people predict bitcoin will continue to increase as the bitcoin halving period approaches. Currently the halving has not happened, bitcoin has formed a new ATH, of course the real ATH has not been reached, so don't ever say buying bitcoin now is a stupid act, in fact they are preparing for a better future, unless you doubt the future of bitcoin.