Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Tmoonz]

Preferably I think what makes the DCA a better option is it's flexible nature just as already explained here by Jay, at least it become more convenient even if your income isn't coming in as often as you expect you can still retain your investment and with a long term plan so as to take off the burden of thinking something may go wrong if you aren't consistent, but since it's a long term investment one can easily flow along and keep stretching whenever any income is available.

Please be more specific about the income for clarity sake as it's kind of confusing which fund you're using to accumulate bitcoin. You can't be using any fund to accumulate bitcoin particularly if it isn't discretionary Income as it would seem you are gambling with your bitcoin investment. Discretionary income should be what you should used to accumulate bitcoin rather than using any available income. Incase you have been investing this way,then you have been gambling. When you have an available income,first and foremost is to make sure your basics needs has been met, once your basics needs are met and if there is an extra cash left then you can use it as discretionary income.

You are right, choice of words can be very misleading sometimes even when the speaker intend to know what he or she is saying it can be confusing not using the a proper diction that can be very precise to validate the overall statemen, I agree with you we don't just invest in Bitcoin simply because there is an available income, the available income must have a name or tag to which is going to be use for which explains better of a good financial management, for Bitcoin you give a maximum priority to ensuring whatever that is considered to be basic needs has been taken of thereafter you can think of investing in Bitcoin with your discretionary if there is any.

[Taskford]

Going on a long-term helps in automatically handling the probable emotions, fear and panics, so that means wrong decision that will lead losing funds is already taken care of because long-term investment is patience oriented.

Yes, I agree with your assumption about this. But in my personal opinion, long-term investing does not automatically make someone great at controlling their emotions and panic. Because what I have experienced so far is that emotions still need to be trained, and it is experience that trains them. So, in essence, a strong mentality is not formed automatically, but through a struggle full of obstacles. Because there are also many people who invest long-term in Bitcoin but fail to control their emotions. So this truly illustrates for us that long-term investing does not automatically shape our mentality, but rather through the many lessons and insights we gain during our Bitcoin accumulation journey. But it is true that choosing to invest long-term in Bitcoin is indeed the right choice, so keep going and stay motivated.

I largely agree with your point as it relates to the challenges that any of us likely have in regards to controlling our emotions, and there surely are likely some folks who are better at controlling their emotions as compared with others.

Yet, at the same time, I would argue that bitcoin can still help to train us to get better at either controlling our emotions and/or recognizing certain limitations that we might have. 

Even though some guys are likely trainable to put good systems in place, and having those good systems in place, they learn that the systems help to make them less emotional.  At the same time, there are likely guys who struggle to change their habits and they might have learned a certain way and they have troubles to unlearn some ways that they do things or the way they react in certain stressful scenarios. 

It might be difficult to know whether we might have some difficulties learning better habits, yet investing in bitcoin on an ongoing basis will provide opportunities to put systems in place that might help us to better recognize some limitations that we might have in our abilities to control our emotions under certain situations.

See this as good point since Bitcoin could act as reflection of out emotion. Since the volatility might test our discipline and system we are using also patience we have.

Those people build great attitudes to learn and usually manage to stay not to became so emotional, while other people struggle to leave their old attitude that's why they are continue doubting and didn't improve.

So with this situation the process of investing on Bitcoin is not only for profit gaining, this also trained people to have discipline then also have proper control with their emotions.

[Father111]

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

[Finebone]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

If you are saying that all three strategy are good,  you are implying that waiting and buying only the dip is a good approach, so how does waiting before buying good, when you might not even buy at all if the dip you are anticipating for did not come?

Buying the dip is only good if you are already accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy, and because their is a dip in the market, you can buy aggressively then, but waiting before even starting out is a very bad idea, because at that point, you are either a low coiner or a no coiner, so buying only the dip is a bad way to build a good stash of bitcoin, because you can't be effective in your accumulation only through that method.

[sotelorene]

Well, it is not a bad idea to combine the 3 strategies but have you thought about the convenience? Most times we do things thinking that we can handle it but at the long run we discover it actually comes with a lot of financial stress. Lump sum investment is good but this has to come when you're very sure about your next income and if you miss having the income as at when due, you may go bankrupt. Buying the dip too is good but an investor must not get carried away while waiting for dips too.

DCA strategy is a more complete strategy of which an investor who invests by DCA has the ability to invest aggressively too (lump sum/buying the dip). This is possible especially when you have an additional discretionary income and you also have enough emergency funds and back up funds to cushion your bitcoin stash. Even though there's no additional discretionary income, your reserved funds could be used for buying dips but never use your emergency funds for investment to avoid loosing your bitcoin untimely. Don't get too greedy wanting to lump-sum frequently, you may end up destroying your portfolio.

You can't lump sum often and anyone that lump sum often is not lump suming but DCAing. Using all three strategies doesn't mean that you most have beyond your normal size of emergency funds which is at least 3-6 months because you don't need your emergency funds to lump sum or buy at the dip.

If you have an unexpected cash that you don't have anything to do with it, you can lump sum immediately, irrespective of the price of bitcoin. I got paid last December double salary. I took out half of the money and lunp sum immediately, whereby I still have my reserve funds available to buy at my own dip price if bitcoin dips to that price provided that my weekly DCA is ongoing. It's good that you lump sum whenever, the opportunity comes because it boost up your bitcoin portfolio size faster.

There are instances in which some people fail s to differentiate the three strategies from one another. Yes you are right, who ever that is claiming to be doing lump sum buying at regular intervals is actually taking DCA strategy to be lump sum  buying and this is a mistake on there part . Maybe simply because they are using large amounts of money to do DCA and they decided to call it lump sum buying this a big mistake since lump sum buying involved buying bitcoin using large amounts of money and not on regular intervals.

When we buy bitcoin consistently it is dca what some people don't understand is that they never know that our discretionary income can never be thesame, there are investors who uses $100 as their regular dca method while there are also some that uses $20 as their dca amount this is all depending on how your discretionary income is, an investor who dca with $20 can have can definitely win $200 from bet and can decide to lump sum with $100 this is what he never expected to do but the money just came when he never expect so people should know when an investor is using the dca and when they also lump sum.

Your illustration about winning $200 in bet seems pretty clear but that is not what proty was talking about here and with your illustration that can be considered lump sum for the person or investor if actually $20 is his capacity or regular DCA amount use in accumulating Bitcoin but proty was talking about an investor buying regularly with a big or huge amount of money and so proty believes that is not DCA because of the amount been used but in reality proty is wrong because no amount is specified for an Investor to be using in DCA because an investor can or should use any amount that seems cool and comfortable with them.

[ZeroVinsonN]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

If you are saying that all three strategy are good,  you are implying that waiting and buying only the dip is a good approach, so how does waiting before buying good, when you might not even buy at all if the dip you are anticipating for did not come?

Buying the dip is only good if you are already accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy, and because their is a dip in the market, you can buy aggressively then, but waiting before even starting out is a very bad idea, because at that point, you are either a low coiner or a no coiner, so buying only the dip is a bad way to build a good stash of bitcoin, because you can't be effective in your accumulation only through that method.

I don't how he suggested that you should wait for a DIP before you buy, he simply pointed out that all three bitcoin investment strategies are good but that we shouldn't let our emotions determine how we invest and that statement of his is actually pointing to greed, greed is what will make a person decides to wait for a dip before buying and that's what's wrong, no one can predict when a DIP will happen and that's why no one should be waiting for it to happen but then if and when it happens you can buy the DIP but then it's still your choice and no one gets to make that decision for you.

[Sim_card]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

This is where people get it wrong if you are not very wealthy, you cannot buy 6btc at a go at the dip. An average income earner will prioritize DCA method whereby, he buys steadily overtime when his discretionary income available. To put it clear to you, someone using DCA method to accumulate bitcoin for 4-10 years and above will accumulate more bitcoin than someone that's waiting for the dip because the dip comes like a thief in the night and if the dip did not come, the investor will be waiting how is he then going to meet up with the quantity of bitcoin someone on regular DCA is accumulating.

Newbies think that buying at the dip is the best because they can buy more at a discounted price and they keep waiting unknowingly, to them that's the slowest strategy so far without rest of mind. DCA enables your to accumulate the quantity of bitcoin that you wouldn't be able to accumulate without DCA.

I will prefer to buy bitcoin irrespective of the price consistently and persistently overtime and have a large bitcoin portfolio than to buy bitcoin at a cheaper price and end up with little bitcoin stash.

[Oshio-man]

I agree with you to some extent, buying with large amount of money on regular basis is not actually lump summing but rather the person is DCAing because DCAing is purchasing Bitcoin on a steady which can be every week, month or depending but where I disagree with you is where you said buying this way is a big mistake, how do you mean is a big mistake to buy in that manner? See anyone who has the capacity to be using big or large amount to be DCAing there's nothing wrong and it is not stated anywhere that your DCA money must be a little amount. The amount we use in DCAing depends on our capacity if I have that capacity to be accumulating with such amount I will do it as far as it is something I can afford to lose and it is from my discretionary.

I totally understand where you're coming from,  and you're right there's nothing wrong with using a larger amount for (DCA) if you have the means and it fits your risk tolerance. However buying with a larger amount while doing the DCA is not actually bad so long as there's no fixed amount that is set aside for all DCA guys, as a matter of fact we all have different source of income which most guys might have multiple source of income and this can make them to be more aggressive than a guy that only have one source of income so it almost impossible for everyone to accumulate with a certain amount.

Are you trying to say that investors should use huge amount of funds to accumulate bitcoin as a newbies? I know that is not good for newbies to start using this method dollar cost to accumulate bitcoin with huge amount of funds because the price of bitcoin is unpredictable, these are some of the things new investors will consider before using what they can afford to lose in bitcoin, i agree with you that we have different sources of income and the capital of every investors accumulating bitcoin will never be the same, and their income will be different also, For those that use little amount to buy bitcoin and hold, I think this is another opportunity to buy more because the price has decreased for investors to add to their bitcoin to hope for another huge income in the future.

[maknyos]

Preferably I think what makes the DCA a better option is it's flexible nature just as already explained here by Jay, at least it become more convenient even if your income isn't coming in as often as you expect you can still retain your investment and with a long term plan so as to take off the burden of thinking something may go wrong if you aren't consistent, but since it's a long term investment one can easily flow along and keep stretching whenever any income is available.

Please be more specific about the income for clarity sake as it's kind of confusing which fund you're using to accumulate bitcoin. You can't be using any fund to accumulate bitcoin particularly if it isn't discretionary Income as it would seem you are gambling with your bitcoin investment. Discretionary income should be what you should used to accumulate bitcoin rather than using any available income. Incase you have been investing this way,then you have been gambling. When you have an available income,first and foremost is to make sure your basics needs has been met, once your basics needs are met and if there is an extra cash left then you can use it as discretionary income.

Basic needs are things that must be met first before we invest, because it will determine the future of our investment if we have not been able to fulfill our basic needs. After we can fulfill them, we can start planning our investment.
It will be very good when we have several sources of income when investing, because it will make it easier for us to plan. Starting from basic needs, emergency funds to investments that we will do. thus we can calmly when facing bad situations, whether it happens in life where unexpected things can happen or the market is experiencing a decline.

[Onyeeze]

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

I've already said this before but there is no time that is perfect for someone to accumulate a Bitcoin you can buy bitcoin when the price is low you will come also buy bitcoin when the price is high, depending when you have your capital, but some people think that the best way you come accumulate your Bitcoin is when the price is low, not knowing that the price of Bitcoin can increase at any time and can also decreases at any time so it will be good for crypto investors especially Bitcoin to invest in Bitcoin when their capital is available, so I do advise anyone not to waste their time to be waiting for a (DCA)

[centrum]

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

the most important thing here is using smart dca. it is not enough to follow dca blindly it should be done intelligently by understanding market conditions. regular dca maintains consistency and reduces stress from market volatility. when a good dip appears you can increase your buying within the same dca plan. this is what i would call smart dca. it helps keep emotions out of decisions because you already know what actions to take. many people wait endlessly for dips but no one knows when a dip will come, which leads to missed opportunities. smart dca keeps you active in the market while still allowing you to take advantage of dips when they happen. for those aiming to accumulate bitcoin over the long tarm this approach is more realistic less stressful and more effective.

[MusaPk]

I can recall more than 40 years of people complaining that retirement systems would no longer be paying benefits, and those people were wrong, and some of them failed/refused to prepare adequately and sufficiently for their own retirement because they presumed such system would not be in place.  Some of them caused themselves to not have any benefits because they did not contribute into such systems, so then they were not eligible to receive any benefits once the benefits were being paid.  So some retirement systems might still be in place, even 30-40 years or more into the future.

Otherwise, I agree with your point about not having all of your eggs in one basket, so bitcoin can serve as a supplement and/or a replacement for some of those retirement systems that will either completely rug pull beneficiaries or otherwise greatly undermine the quantity and/or quality of benefits that end up getting paid out by the time the contributor reaches retirement age.

Even the better of retirement and/or pension systems tend to have some sort of a fixed benefit that may well not keep up with inflation (or the debasement of the dollar (or other fiat's debasement)).

So even if a person is putting a small amount into bitcoin, it could add up to be a lot in the future, especially if the person starts out contributing to it when young (as you suggested).

I am from Pakistan and in my country only if you have government job then you will get monthly pension after you retire from service. The criteria for retirement is 60 years of age or complete 25 years of service. I do agree that salaries and pension doesn't increases with pace of inflation and they are not able to counter the increasing inflation.

Here Bitcoin will be a great help at age of retirement provided if someone is regularly investing in Bitcoin for long term. You have pension at your disposal plus your Bitcoin investment that's spread over a period of time.

Those who don't get any benefits after they complete their service have the option to start investing in Bitcoin. This way they can gather  adequate funds by the time they retire from work or they can plan early exit if they have sufficient Bitcoins.  

[Showlove01]

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

the most important thing here is using smart dca. it is not enough to follow dca blindly it should be done intelligently by understanding market conditions. regular dca maintains consistency and reduces stress from market volatility. when a good dip appears you can increase your buying within the same dca plan. this is what i would call smart dca. it helps keep emotions out of decisions because you already know what actions to take. many people wait endlessly for dips but no one knows when a dip will come, which leads to missed opportunities. smart dca keeps you active in the market while still allowing you to take advantage of dips when they happen. for those aiming to accumulate bitcoin over the long tarm this approach is more realistic less stressful and more effective.

I'm still wondering what you meant by smart DCA, if I may ask is there any DCA method that is not? And for your information what you just explain is not a smart DCA because that is what every serious investor will always do so there is nothing smart there and may I also inform you that DCA can not be smart rather it is an investor that will make a DCA method work well for them. Even if  an investor have a huge source of income and doesn't follow up the DCA method properly, they will end up not having a nice portfolio and they will crash their investment.

[Joeboy]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

To avoid unnecessary pressures and delay in investments, just focus on DCA, instead of Lump sum or chasing timing the market. DCA is that strategy that you can use to steadily accumulate Bitcoin irrespective of Bitcoin's volatility.....With DCA you don't need to begin timing the perfect time to invest, it removes the possibility of making unnecessary guesses which then makes it possible to keep accumulating while still focusing on your long term goals, which is why DCA is what you and everyone of us needs...

[CageMabok]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

If, as you're referring to, someone can accumulate four Bitcoins under normal conditions, we generally assume that in a downturn like the current one, that person can earn more Bitcoin than you consider normal. However, some people are less willing to buy large amounts when they see a downturn, or are limited by capital that is no longer the same during a downturn, except for those with a substantial monthly salary. Therefore, we need to consider these influencing factors to avoid assuming others are making the wrong move in Bitcoin investment.

To avoid unnecessary pressures and delay in investments, just focus on DCA, instead of Lump sum or chasing timing the market. DCA is that strategy that you can use to steadily accumulate Bitcoin irrespective of Bitcoin's volatility.....With DCA you don't need to begin timing the perfect time to invest, it removes the possibility of making unnecessary guesses which then makes it possible to keep accumulating while still focusing on your long term goals, which is why DCA is what you and everyone of us needs...

Most people are already aware of this, as the DCA strategy has been discussed for quite some time in various discussions focused on investment topics like Bitcoin. Therefore, everyone should use this strategy to achieve their investment goals without having to be repeatedly reminded by others. Because investors who are more focused on their own investment goals will certainly continue to use the strategy that is most comfortable for them, without needing advice from others at any time.

[coinrifft]

The positive results of good, persistent, consistent, ongoing and regular habits might not be felt in the short term.  I like to suggest guys to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they can without overdoing it, and guys have to figure out their own interpretation, and they also do not need to agree - especially since level of aggressiveness (or whimpiness) is totally within the discretion of each of us to choose our level.

To each it's own, and as we have heard a lot of advises and debated and argued about the pros and cons, at the end of the day it will still boils down to the individual himself on how "aggressively" he wanted to invest and then look for the long term benefit of it and obviously, on how he will get the benefit. So others might wanted to invest $100.00 weekly or there will be others who wanted $100.00 monthly. But at the end of the day, the goal will still be the same albeit the profit might not be. We are hear to make money, not just for us but for the next generation. Maybe we have small kids right now, but what if we started to invest in let's say 2 cycles and see how it goes? But that time our kids could be going to school and we need money for their education. So Bitcoin and our investment on it could be the answer as we could be making huge accumulation and gains throughout that 2 cycles that the ROI is greater than what we expected.

[Bigjoe33]

Preferably I think what makes the DCA a better option is it's flexible nature just as already explained here by Jay, at least it become more convenient even if your income isn't coming in as often as you expect you can still retain your investment and with a long term plan so as to take off the burden of thinking something may go wrong if you aren't consistent, but since it's a long term investment one can easily flow along and keep stretching whenever any income is available.

Please take note that you don't invest into bitcoin with any income that just comes in, No! What you invest with is your discretionary income(money that is left over after taking care of your basic needs). Of course, you have to settle basic necessities, and the money left is what you use for your bitcoin investment. If we fail to settle basic needs, and we we just jump into bitcoin with just any income that comes in, then when the need of those things we failed to settle comes up, we will have no option than to sell our Bitcoin assets under pressure and maybe in loss just to meet up important demands that we should have settled earlier, and this is not a good investment approach because you can't HODL for long in such messy practices.

[Sonia_123]

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

As a beginner or those investors that are not financially stable yet in bitcoin investment it is advisable to start with the dca strategy in other to be able to invest and grow, yes accepted that all strategy is good , but for continuously, regularly persistently accumulation of bitcoin it is better you use the dca strategy because you don't know when the dip might come, yes you can also buy as you have said it that the same that has been accumulated with the dca can also be gotten with the dip, how much do you think the dip will be or how soon will it come, do you think if it comes in a four years time you can really buy to recover the dca strategy for four years, let's be sincere to ourselves i don't think it can because the dca strategy you have being using to accumulate for over four years will definitely affect your dip strategy you will adopt, can't be compared to the profit from dca to that of the dip.

[ejikeme24]

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

If you are saying that all three strategy are good,  you are implying that waiting and buying only the dip is a good approach, so how does waiting before buying good, when you might not even buy at all if the dip you are anticipating for did not come?

You should know that the three strategy can work depending on your plans, remember most investors usually hope to buy the dip but they don't wait for dip to happen before making their purchase rather they keep buying little by little at the same time waiting to buy the dip, this way there will be no regret because they didn't miss any opportunity even when they where waiting for the dip. So if you plan yourself very well there's no way you would be affected by any of this strategy.

[JayJuanGee]

The positive results of good, persistent, consistent, ongoing and regular habits might not be felt in the short term.  I like to suggest guys to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they can without overdoing it, and guys have to figure out their own interpretation, and they also do not need to agree - especially since level of aggressiveness (or whimpiness) is totally within the discretion of each of us to choose our level.

Consistency is the key, for those who wants to be aggressive with their accumulation and only those that can make it a regular habit to accumulate aggressively and also prioritise long term holding would get positive results, as for the discretion, I keep telling folks that everyone can't be on the same level financially so our discretion can never be same therefore every investor should and can be aggressive according to what they can generate for discretion, it's not how much you put into Bitcoin that matters, it's about how determined and consistent an investor can be to achieve their goal. I can recall that you've talked about starting small and gradually increase on the long run when more discretionary is generated.

Level of aggressiveness is the chosen investment level within whatever discretionary income that a person has, and it is not about how much discretionary income that they have.

Let's say that there are four people (1,2,3,4) who have discretionary income of $150 per week. 

first person chooses to invest 50, consume 50 and save 50
second person chooses to invest 10, consume 70 and save 70
third person chooses to invest 110, consume 20 and save 20
fourth person chooses to invest 140, consume 10 and save 0

Sure there are other examples, yet within the example the fourth one is the most aggressive in regards to his investing into bitcoin, and maybe he is saving $0 because he already has his backup funds established.  And, maybe he is being unrealistic by only consuming $10. 

Maybe another 4 example might be helpful to say that there are 4 more people

Let's say that there are three other people (4,5, 6) who have discretionary income of $300 per week. 

fifth person chooses to invest 110, consume 95 and save 95
sixth person chooses to invest 20, consume 140 and save 140
seventh person chooses to invest 160, consume 70 and save 70
eighth person chooses to invest 270, consume 30 and save 0

The fact that the fifth person invests the same as the third person does not make the fifth person equally aggressive as the 3rd person.  The 3rd person is much more aggressive than fifth person.

The seventh person is buying more BTC than the fourth person, even though the fourth person is being more aggressive than seventh person relative to his discretionary income.

Level of aggressiveness can be described how you want, yet if a person has different discretionary income they likely need to be described in terms of percentages rather than absolutes when determining their level of aggressiveness or level of whimpiness relative to another or perhaps relative to themselves in other chosen aggressiveness levels. 

Any of us deciding how whimpy or how aggressive we want to be in our bitcoin investment, we have abilities to choose how much to invest, consume and/or save within our discretionary funds, and we might not even choose the same levels of aggressiveness every week, and the strength of our savings (various back up funds) might determine our level of aggressiveness, since if we have already completely established our back up funds, we do not need to continue to put money into our back up funds (savings), so then at that time that wwe have completely established our back up funds, we would only have invest and consume as the two remaining ways to use our discretionary funds, and surely we have more freedom to be more aggressive if our back up funds have already been established at a high enough level and maybe our back up funds have enough funds to cover 3 months or more of our expenses...so the amount of our back up funds gives us more abilities (options) to be more aggressive with the investment and/or even the consumption of our discretionary funds each time that we receive our pay.

Investors can combine all three strategies as long as they have sufficient discretionary income. If its convenient I would recommend the combine use of the DCA, lump sum and Buy dip strategies. This way they wouldn't rely on a single strategy instead they would have more than one strategy to accumulate bitcoin.

I don't think combining all bitcoin accumulating strategy is needed if you want to be efficient and decisive in your accumulation journey.

What I think is the best is using the dca accumulating strategy to buy and accumulate Bitcoin consistently either weekly or monthly, and if in the process of accumulating and their is a serious dip in the market, you can still accumulate and buy Bitcoin aggressively during that period if you have a reserve funds stationed to carry it out, so I think that both methods are enough for any bitcoin investor to accumulate and get to his over accumulation status faster than trying to use all strategies that might get you confused.

In my opinion, all three strategies are good in accumulating Bitcoin however we should not let's our emotions be the basis of investments because the capital is there. If Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) can get you 4 BTC on a normal, during a dip that same DCA can get you more BTC there by fast tracking your BTC accumulation.

That is not true Father111. You do not automatically get more bitcoin merely because you buy the dip rather than DCA.  There is no way to assure that the BTC price to go down, and when you put yourself into a waiting rather than an ongoing buying mode, you may well screw up your own level of bitcoin buying to cause it to become more inclined to wait and also have possibilities of not managing your money sufficiently well to be able to use such previously available monies to buy bitcoin, even if the BTC price ends up dropping as you expected and within a time frame as expected.. which is a BIG IF.

But, hey, you can do what you like if you want to fantasize about buying dips as if you have any clue about where the BTC prices might or might not go.

The positive results of good, persistent, consistent, ongoing and regular habits might not be felt in the short term.  I like to suggest guys to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they can without overdoing it, and guys have to figure out their own interpretation, and they also do not need to agree - especially since level of aggressiveness (or whimpiness) is totally within the discretion of each of us to choose our level.

To each it's own, and as we have heard a lot of advises and debated and argued about the pros and cons, at the end of the day it will still boils down to the individual himself on how "aggressively" he wanted to invest and then look for the long term benefit of it and obviously, on how he will get the benefit. So others might wanted to invest $100.00 weekly or there will be others who wanted $100.00 monthly. But at the end of the day, the goal will still be the same albeit the profit might not be.

We post in these various threads about bitcoin in order to show various investment and/or cashflow management practices that can be helpful to guys choosing to invest in bitcoin.  Guys can measure their discretionary income and arrive at differing conclusions regarding how aggressive they want to be in regards to their bitcoin investing and they can choose how strong they want their cashflow systems/practices to be, so I doubt that suggesting "do whatever you want" is going to be very helpful to attempt to figure out some of the parameters related to bitcoin investing and cashflow management.

We are hear to make money,

If you are focused on such superficial framing of the matter, then you sound like a trader rather than an investor.. and many of us recommend against fucking around with trading, especially when it comes to bitcoin.

If you do it correctly, then investing in bitcoin should provide you with more options in regards to financial independence, so sure making money is part of the deal, yet I doubt that making money is a main focus of a bitcoin investor, since guys are learning about bitcoin, and they likely will learn that it is much better to hold value in bitcoin as compared to holding value in dollars or other fiat currencies. 

So if you had spent 4-10 years or longer building up your bitcoin stash, it seems pretty retarded to sell all of it, and also if you make money and you hold such value within inferior assets/currencies, then you may well end up losing all the money that you had built up (or could have had built up f you would have had managed the money with better strategies and/or practices).

not just for us but for the next generation.

Not everyone chooses to invest for the next generation, even though sure some guys have that as one of their goals. 

Maybe we have small kids right now, but what if we started to invest in let's say 2 cycles and see how it goes? But that time our kids could be going to school and we need money for their education. So Bitcoin and our investment on it could be the answer as we could be making huge accumulation and gains throughout that 2 cycles that the ROI is greater than what we expected.

It might not be a good idea to use your money like that, especially if you end up depleting your bitcoin after having had built up your investment for 2 cycles, even though there could be ways to engage in sustainable withdrawal, yet sure, no one can tell others how to use their bitcoin or whether to use their bitcoin. I talk about time based and price based sustainable withdrawal techniques in my thread on the topic.