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March 22, 2025, 07:38:40 AM |
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Well selling some percentage of my investment to even buy more may not be a very bad idea... While we are preaching buying and keeping we also need to know that the future is not promised. Nobody is guaranteed of being alive in the next 10 years - fate decides. In the meantime my investment strategy is buy more and sell less... When the future finally comes, I'll have more than enough bitcoins to leverage and in the present I take advantage of every good enough opportunity.
How will you be selling your Bitcoin investment and still be trying to buying more Bitcoin? Which kind of idea is that? If I should even ask, why did you decide to sell some percentage of your Bitcoin when you know you want to accumulate more? You are trying to be smart, but you will get it wrong if you start using that idea.if you sell your Bitcoin, you may not see the opportunity to buy back at your target price. In fact, I would say that you are trying to turn into a trader with that idea you may hardly grow back your wallet. As an investor, buying and selling is not always the best approach,rather, it’s about accumulating over the long term before selling. And again, if you don’t need the money, it is not necessary to sell after that long run of 5-10years. This is exactly what it means to be a long term investor, you do not accumulate more Bitcoin to sell in other to start accumulating again that's a total waste of money and opportunity since it is not possible to buy back at the same amount you bought your holdings as you clearly had explained but a long term holder can decide to sell when he had reached his planned year that he initially said he was going to sell and the price of Bitcoin must be in favourible price before he decides to sell and he must have accumulated a good number of Bitcoin before selling if not there's no need of holding Bitcoin if the plan is to sell and start accumulating again. An clear understanding of been an long term investors mindset as a long term investors you need to avoid accumulation of bitcoin in other to sell and start accumulation again, as an long term it requires to be patient and discipline to hold onto your bitcoin for an extended period time and you need to understand the concept of an long term avoid making emotional decisions based on short term market fluctuations. You are absolutely correct, your last point make a lot of sense and actually the reason why some investors sell off there Bitcoin is because of emotion, some investors after having the mindset of holding for a long term and they see the market movement and they saw a little profit, some investors will be tempted to sell off there Bitcoin and some investors actually do sell whenever they saw something like that simply because they can not control their emotions and this is one thing someone ( an investor ) who wants to invest for a long term should work on because if they didn't work on this they will be selling whenever there a little profit. Let me correct something those that sell when they see any little profit from there Bitcoin are not investors they are traders and I really don't see there emotion as a reason for selling when ever there's a little profit they are not just investors and they don't have the mindset of accumulating and holding for a very long term the mindset they have even before starting there accumulation journey is buying and holding till there's a little profit and they sell, those who came to Bitcoin to invest and hold for long term won't be moved by there emotion to sell because of little profit the reason they may be tempted to sell there Bitcoin is during time of emergency and when there backup funds can't handle the situation they may be tempted or have no option than to dip hands into there Bitcoin investment. You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing. In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets.
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Stormisover
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March 22, 2025, 11:48:51 AM |
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Well selling some percentage of my investment to even buy more may not be a very bad idea... While we are preaching buying and keeping we also need to know that the future is not promised. Nobody is guaranteed of being alive in the next 10 years - fate decides. In the meantime my investment strategy is buy more and sell less... When the future finally comes, I'll have more than enough bitcoins to leverage and in the present I take advantage of every good enough opportunity.
How will you be selling your Bitcoin investment and still be trying to buying more Bitcoin? Which kind of idea is that? If I should even ask, why did you decide to sell some percentage of your Bitcoin when you know you want to accumulate more? You are trying to be smart, but you will get it wrong if you start using that idea.if you sell your Bitcoin, you may not see the opportunity to buy back at your target price. In fact, I would say that you are trying to turn into a trader with that idea you may hardly grow back your wallet. As an investor, buying and selling is not always the best approach,rather, it’s about accumulating over the long term before selling. And again, if you don’t need the money, it is not necessary to sell after that long run of 5-10years. This is exactly what it means to be a long term investor, you do not accumulate more Bitcoin to sell in other to start accumulating again that's a total waste of money and opportunity since it is not possible to buy back at the same amount you bought your holdings as you clearly had explained but a long term holder can decide to sell when he had reached his planned year that he initially said he was going to sell and the price of Bitcoin must be in favourible price before he decides to sell and he must have accumulated a good number of Bitcoin before selling if not there's no need of holding Bitcoin if the plan is to sell and start accumulating again. An clear understanding of been an long term investors mindset as a long term investors you need to avoid accumulation of bitcoin in other to sell and start accumulation again, as an long term it requires to be patient and discipline to hold onto your bitcoin for an extended period time and you need to understand the concept of an long term avoid making emotional decisions based on short term market fluctuations. You are absolutely correct, your last point make a lot of sense and actually the reason why some investors sell off there Bitcoin is because of emotion, some investors after having the mindset of holding for a long term and they see the market movement and they saw a little profit, some investors will be tempted to sell off there Bitcoin and some investors actually do sell whenever they saw something like that simply because they can not control their emotions and this is one thing someone ( an investor ) who wants to invest for a long term should work on because if they didn't work on this they will be selling whenever there a little profit. Let me correct something those that sell when they see any little profit from there Bitcoin are not investors they are traders and I really don't see there emotion as a reason for selling when ever there's a little profit they are not just investors and they don't have the mindset of accumulating and holding for a very long term the mindset they have even before starting there accumulation journey is buying and holding till there's a little profit and they sell, those who came to Bitcoin to invest and hold for long term won't be moved by there emotion to sell because of little profit the reason they may be tempted to sell there Bitcoin is during time of emergency and when there backup funds can't handle the situation they may be tempted or have no option than to dip hands into there Bitcoin investment. You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing. In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs .
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March 22, 2025, 01:57:17 PM |
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You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing.
In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs . Why would an investor become emotional in the first place? That is for traders not investors, because in my own opinion, the key thing is having faith in Bitcoin and it potential on the longer run, if you really have faith in it, and you invest with an amount you can do away with for a very long time, you have no worries because no matter how dip the value of Bitcoin goes, it can always recover, it's just a matter of time, unless you don't know how the value of Bitcoin goes, it's only newbies investors that don't know how Bitcoin moves that will start panicking anytime their is a serious dip in the market, anyone that has gotten a little bit of experience or knowledge on how Bitcoin operate, wouldn't be bothered at all because he knows that it's just a matter of time before it rallies back to even much more better height.
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Ruttoshi
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March 22, 2025, 02:12:36 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Well selling some percentage of my investment to even buy more may not be a very bad idea... While we are preaching buying and keeping we also need to know that the future is not promised. Nobody is guaranteed of being alive in the next 10 years - fate decides. In the meantime my investment strategy is buy more and sell less... When the future finally comes, I'll have more than enough bitcoins to leverage and in the present I take advantage of every good enough opportunity.
How will you be selling your Bitcoin investment and still be trying to buying more Bitcoin? Which kind of idea is that? If I should even ask, why did you decide to sell some percentage of your Bitcoin when you know you want to accumulate more? You are trying to be smart, but you will get it wrong if you start using that idea.if you sell your Bitcoin, you may not see the opportunity to buy back at your target price. In fact, I would say that you are trying to turn into a trader with that idea you may hardly grow back your wallet. As an investor, buying and selling is not always the best approach,rather, it’s about accumulating over the long term before selling. And again, if you don’t need the money, it is not necessary to sell after that long run of 5-10years. This is exactly what it means to be a long term investor, you do not accumulate more Bitcoin to sell in other to start accumulating again that's a total waste of money and opportunity since it is not possible to buy back at the same amount you bought your holdings as you clearly had explained but a long term holder can decide to sell when he had reached his planned year that he initially said he was going to sell and the price of Bitcoin must be in favourible price before he decides to sell and he must have accumulated a good number of Bitcoin before selling if not there's no need of holding Bitcoin if the plan is to sell and start accumulating again. An clear understanding of been an long term investors mindset as a long term investors you need to avoid accumulation of bitcoin in other to sell and start accumulation again, as an long term it requires to be patient and discipline to hold onto your bitcoin for an extended period time and you need to understand the concept of an long term avoid making emotional decisions based on short term market fluctuations. You are absolutely correct, your last point make a lot of sense and actually the reason why some investors sell off there Bitcoin is because of emotion, some investors after having the mindset of holding for a long term and they see the market movement and they saw a little profit, some investors will be tempted to sell off there Bitcoin and some investors actually do sell whenever they saw something like that simply because they can not control their emotions and this is one thing someone ( an investor ) who wants to invest for a long term should work on because if they didn't work on this they will be selling whenever there a little profit. Let me correct something those that sell when they see any little profit from there Bitcoin are not investors they are traders and I really don't see there emotion as a reason for selling when ever there's a little profit they are not just investors and they don't have the mindset of accumulating and holding for a very long term the mindset they have even before starting there accumulation journey is buying and holding till there's a little profit and they sell, those who came to Bitcoin to invest and hold for long term won't be moved by there emotion to sell because of little profit the reason they may be tempted to sell there Bitcoin is during time of emergency and when there backup funds can't handle the situation they may be tempted or have no option than to dip hands into there Bitcoin investment. You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing. Are you saying this from your assumptions or you are telling us based on experience, because I believe that the longer you are in bitcoin accumulation game, the more confidence you have in bitcoin and experience in bitcoin volatile nature which will lead to no panic or been emotional to the point of selling. How will a great investor like you said do that. Then he is only a lost trader, who panicking is always their way of life because they choose to trade. I don't see why an investor with a long-term investment mindset will panic when he is busy accumulating his bitcoin with his discretionary income overtime in order for him to reach his target. Anyone that does not have the believe in bitcoin should start his investment with as little as $10 regularly with DCA for two years whenever he has killed the panic in him due to the knowledge and experience he has gained, he can increase his DCA amount and invest aggressively.
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Popkon6
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March 22, 2025, 03:46:23 PM |
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In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets.
Those who will sell Bitcoin at the current time or during a recession are basically weak hands, only weak holders can think like this. But those who invest in Bitcoin for the long term will never think like this because their investment will be long-term and purchase according to the DCA method. Investing in Bitcoin according to such a strategy is best because you have to take risks and invest only, because you must remember that there is pumping and dumping in the Bitcoin market. You have to invest regularly following the Bitcoin DCA method, buy additional dips during dumping and if you can sustain your Bitcoin investment for a long time, success is guaranteed. Especially by controlling greed and dealing with different situations, it is possible to achieve success in long-term investment.
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March 22, 2025, 03:53:54 PM |
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You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing.
In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs . Why would an investor become emotional in the first place? That is for traders not investors, because in my own opinion, the key thing is having faith in Bitcoin and it potential on the longer run, if you really have faith in it, and you invest with an amount you can do away with for a very long time, you have no worries because no matter how dip the value of Bitcoin goes, it can always recover, it's just a matter of time, unless you don't know how the value of Bitcoin goes, it's only newbies investors that don't know how Bitcoin moves that will start panicking anytime their is a serious dip in the market, anyone that has gotten a little bit of experience or knowledge on how Bitcoin operate, wouldn't be bothered at all because he knows that it's just a matter of time before it rallies back to even much more better height. Generally, those who invest long will not be emotional about these minor market down and turns. If you notice, you will see that those who invest in short positions expecting to make a quick profit are the ones who get emotional and sell Bitcoin during bad market conditions. Especially those who sell Bitcoin emotionally and cannot make a profit. Those who sell Bitcoin emotionally will regret it later when the price of Bitcoin increases. Bitcoin is a coin that has a very low probability of being lost. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure, on the other hand, those who invest in short positions in Bitcoin cannot achieve such a profit. They may gain a small profit, but most of the time, they cannot.
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JayJuanGee
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to "non-custodial"
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March 22, 2025, 04:52:30 PM |
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Are you saying this from your assumptions or you are telling us based on experience, because I believe that the longer you are in bitcoin accumulation game, the more confidence you have in bitcoin and experience in bitcoin volatile nature which will lead to no panic or been emotional to the point of selling. How will a great investor like you said do that. Then he is only a lost trader, who panicking is always their way of life because they choose to trade. I don't see why an investor with a long-term investment mindset will panic when he is busy accumulating his bitcoin with his discretionary income overtime in order for him to reach his target. Anyone that does not have the believe in bitcoin should start his investment with as little as $10 regularly with DCA for two years whenever he has killed the panic in him due to the knowledge and experience he has gained, he can increase his DCA amount and invest aggressively. It seems to me that any of us have potentials to become emotional with our investment into bitcoin from time to time, and it can be quite stressful when the BTC price is moving around a lot, and the stress can come when the bitcoin price moves in either direction. Of course, the more that we have some kind of an outline of a plan, then we will have some guidance regarding whether we should do anything or not.. so if the price goes down, maybe we can buy up until a point that maybe we run out of money, especially if the BTC price goes lower than expected. When the BTC price is going up, we also can feel the stress of feeling that we had not bought enough.. so then we feel stress about whether we should keep buying or slow down in our buying.. Surely, the longer that we are in bitcoin, the more likely we have been building out bitcoin holdings through both the ups and the downs, and surely our BTC portfolio has better chances of being in profits, yet we still can have some feelings of dilemmas about whether to do anything based on what the BTC price is doing. I frequently believe that if we have created some decently strong systems of ongoing buying and cashflow management, then we start to feel better about where we are at and less likelihood that we are going to become overly emotional in regards to wanting to do something that was not in our previously made plan. Surely, some guys are more emotional in their personalities than others, too... which might cause them to have to figure that out in advance and perhaps to figure out some ways to create their plans (and to carry out their plans) in such a way that accounts for their own tendency to become more emotional than other people under similar circumstances. Personally, I tend to believe that for beginners there is no need to diversify our bitcoin investment beyond bitcoin and cash, yet there may well be circumstances that some guys are going to need to figure out some diversification of their bitcoin allocation beyond bitcoin, even though others are able to figure out how to balance their holdings between merely bitcoin and cash... yet as our bitcoin holdings grow.. and perhaps become a year or more than a year of our annual expenses, we might start to believe that we have a lot of value in one place, so great fluctuations of that value cause us stress. By the way for our dip down to $16k-ish in 2022, there may have been guys who were in bitcoin for a few years and who had gone through the two price peaks in 2021 (to $64k and then to $69k), and so they had the sensation of being in great profits, yet when the price dropped below $20k or even $30k, they were finding themselves no longer in profits, and surely many of us would have suggested that they just keep buying bitcoin through that whole period, especially if they ONLY had less than a whole cycle accumulating bitcoin, so surely ongoing accumulation of BTC would have had worked out as a good plan and practice in order to get through that long period of negative BTC prices that we even spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA.. from about June 2022 until October 2023... Similar stresses come on the way up, especially if someone is new to bitcoin, then if they get into bitcoin and the price goes shooting up, they are going to be so tempted to either sell or to stop buying... which may end up screwing up their focus which they may well already know that they should be accumulating BTC rather than either selling it or failing to buy it.. .. which I would consider those kinds of circumstances to be stressful too. In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets.
Those who will sell Bitcoin at the current time or during a recession are basically weak hands, only weak holders can think like this. But those who invest in Bitcoin for the long term will never think like this because their investment will be long-term and purchase according to the DCA method. Investing in Bitcoin according to such a strategy is best because you have to take risks and invest only, because you must remember that there is pumping and dumping in the Bitcoin market. You have to invest regularly following the Bitcoin DCA method, buy additional dips during dumping and if you can sustain your Bitcoin investment for a long time, success is guaranteed. Especially by controlling greed and dealing with different situations, it is possible to achieve success in long-term investment. Success in bitcoin is not guaranteed, even if we do everything perfectly. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure,
That is not true that we are 100% guaranteed to receive profits in bitcoin, even if we do everythng correct.
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1) Self-Custody is a right. Resist being labelled as: "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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Ricardo11
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March 22, 2025, 04:58:24 PM |
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You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing.
In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs . Why would an investor become emotional in the first place? That is for traders not investors, because in my own opinion, the key thing is having faith in Bitcoin and it potential on the longer run, if you really have faith in it, and you invest with an amount you can do away with for a very long time, you have no worries because no matter how dip the value of Bitcoin goes, it can always recover, it's just a matter of time, unless you don't know how the value of Bitcoin goes, it's only newbies investors that don't know how Bitcoin moves that will start panicking anytime their is a serious dip in the market, anyone that has gotten a little bit of experience or knowledge on how Bitcoin operate, wouldn't be bothered at all because he knows that it's just a matter of time before it rallies back to even much more better height. Generally, those who invest long will not be emotional about these minor market down and turns. If you notice, you will see that those who invest in short positions expecting to make a quick profit are the ones who get emotional and sell Bitcoin during bad market conditions. Especially those who sell Bitcoin emotionally and cannot make a profit. Those who sell Bitcoin emotionally will regret it later when the price of Bitcoin increases. Bitcoin is a coin that has a very low probability of being lost. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure, on the other hand, those who invest in short positions in Bitcoin cannot achieve such a profit. They may gain a small profit, but most of the time, they cannot. But a new investor does not understand this at first. When they start investing, they have the mentality, "Investing in Bitcoin will make quick profits, and they will make profits by taking advantage of market fluctuations", but when they actually do this, they cannot control themselves, because the market is as difficult as they thought it was easy. And because of this, they cannot maintain their holdings due to market volatility. But if they could understand the long-term potential of Bitcoin, and invest with a long-term mindset, they would definitely make much better profits in the future. Therefore, "not being unduly afraid of the natural fluctuations of the market" this should be understood well by every investor. Then they will refrain from making fearful and harmful decisions.
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SOKO-DEKE
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March 22, 2025, 05:13:42 PM |
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In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets.
The truth about some people who easily panic about Bitcoin prices and are always willing to sell when the price is going down, especially during market corrections, is due to the fact that some have invested more than they can afford to lose. This behavior is often exhibited by traders who attempt to time the market. However, for someone who has invested only what they can afford to lose and does't try to time the market, I would not expect such a person to panic during a market correction as long term holder. The truth is that, as an investor, you need to understand that the Bitcoin market price cannot keep rising without corrections. These corrections are normal, and any investor should always be aware that the market will dip for reasons such as big investors selling for various purposes. At the same time, other major investors are often waiting to accumulate more Bitcoin when prices dip. In fact, I would say that many people who always panic whenever Bitcoin price goes down are traders. Traders tend to time the Bitcoin market by deciding when to sell and buy back. However, when the market dips or the price doesn’t move as they anticipate, they often panic and sell, hoping to buy the dip again.This is where traders often go wrong because Bitcoin is unpredictable.
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Are you saying this from your assumptions or you are telling us based on experience, because I believe that the longer you are in bitcoin accumulation game, the more confidence you have in bitcoin and experience in bitcoin volatile nature which will lead to no panic or been emotional to the point of selling. How will a great investor like you said do that. Then he is only a lost trader, who panicking is always their way of life because they choose to trade. I don't see why an investor with a long-term investment mindset will panic when he is busy accumulating his bitcoin with his discretionary income overtime in order for him to reach his target. Anyone that does not have the believe in bitcoin should start his investment with as little as $10 regularly with DCA for two years whenever he has killed the panic in him due to the knowledge and experience he has gained, he can increase his DCA amount and invest aggressively. It seems to me that any of us have potentials to become emotional with our investment into bitcoin from time to time, and it can be quite stressful when the BTC price is moving around a lot, and the stress can come when the bitcoin price moves in either direction. Of course, the more that we have some kind of an outline of a plan, then we will have some guidance regarding whether we should do anything or not.. so if the price goes down, maybe we can buy up until a point that maybe we run out of money, especially if the BTC price goes lower than expected. When the BTC price is going up, we also can feel the stress of feeling that we had not bought enough.. so then we feel stress about whether we should keep buying or slow down in our buying.. Surely, the longer that we are in bitcoin, the more likely we have been building out bitcoin holdings through both the ups and the downs, and surely our BTC portfolio has better chances of being in profits, yet we still can have some feelings of dilemmas about whether to do anything based on what the BTC price is doing. I frequently believe that if we have created some decently strong systems of ongoing buying and cashflow management, then we start to feel better about where we are at and less likelihood that we are going to become overly emotional in regards to wanting to do something that was not in our previously made plan. Surely, some guys are more emotional in their personalities than others, too... which might cause them to have to figure that out in advance and perhaps to figure out some ways to create their plans (and to carry out their plans) in such a way that accounts for their own tendency to become more emotional than other people under similar circumstances. Personally, I tend to believe that for beginners there is no need to diversify our bitcoin investment beyond bitcoin and cash, yet there may well be circumstances that some guys are going to need to figure out some diversification of their bitcoin allocation beyond bitcoin, even though others are able to figure out how to balance their holdings between merely bitcoin and cash... yet as our bitcoin holdings grow.. and perhaps become a year or more than a year of our annual expenses, we might start to believe that we have a lot of value in one place, so great fluctuations of that value cause us stress. By the way for our dip down to $16k-ish in 2022, there may have been guys who were in bitcoin for a few years and who had gone through the two price peaks in 2021 (to $64k and then to $69k), and so they had the sensation of being in great profits, yet when the price dropped below $20k or even $30k, they were finding themselves no longer in profits, and surely many of us would have suggested that they just keep buying bitcoin through that whole period, especially if they ONLY had less than a whole cycle accumulating bitcoin, so surely ongoing accumulation of BTC would have had worked out as a good plan and practice in order to get through that long period of negative BTC prices that we even spent a lot of time below the 200-WMA.. from about June 2022 until October 2023... Similar stresses come on the way up, especially if someone is new to bitcoin, then if they get into bitcoin and the price goes shooting up, they are going to be so tempted to either sell or to stop buying... which may end up screwing up their focus which they may well already know that they should be accumulating BTC rather than either selling it or failing to buy it.. .. which I would consider those kinds of circumstances to be stressful too. In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets.
Those who will sell Bitcoin at the current time or during a recession are basically weak hands, only weak holders can think like this. But those who invest in Bitcoin for the long term will never think like this because their investment will be long-term and purchase according to the DCA method. Investing in Bitcoin according to such a strategy is best because you have to take risks and invest only, because you must remember that there is pumping and dumping in the Bitcoin market. You have to invest regularly following the Bitcoin DCA method, buy additional dips during dumping and if you can sustain your Bitcoin investment for a long time, success is guaranteed. Especially by controlling greed and dealing with different situations, it is possible to achieve success in long-term investment. Success in bitcoin is not guaranteed, even if we do everything perfectly. Bitcoin investment as well as any other kind of investment comes with certain risks, its in the job description, there are no guarantees whatsoever, that said, investments aren't for the week minded, bitcoin investment more so, it requires a certain amount of determination to pull off. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure,
People need to re-educate themselves on how investments work, there are no 100% in investment, you could lose, you could gain, but depending on your investment scheme or investment platform, the chances of gain are a guarantee higher percentage than chances of loss.
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Generally, those who invest long will not be emotional about these minor market down and turns. If you notice, you will see that those who invest in short positions expecting to make a quick profit are the ones who get emotional and sell Bitcoin during bad market conditions. Especially those who sell Bitcoin emotionally and cannot make a profit. Those who sell Bitcoin emotionally will regret it later when the price of Bitcoin increases. Bitcoin is a coin that has a very low probability of being lost. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure, on the other hand, those who invest in short positions in Bitcoin cannot achieve such a profit. They may gain a small profit, but most of the time, they cannot.
But a new investor does not understand this at first. When they start investing, they have the mentality, "Investing in Bitcoin will make quick profits, and they will make profits by taking advantage of market fluctuations", but when they actually do this, they cannot control themselves, because the market is as difficult as they thought it was easy. And because of this, they cannot maintain their holdings due to market volatility. But if they could understand the long-term potential of Bitcoin, and invest with a long-term mindset, they would definitely make much better profits in the future. Therefore, "not being unduly afraid of the natural fluctuations of the market" this should be understood well by every investor. Then they will refrain from making fearful and harmful decisions. The mindset when holding bitcoin for the long term, controlling emotions does play an important role. But besides that, we also have to understand several things. First, don't expect profit in the short term, because no one knows what will happen next. Maybe when we buy it, the price is at the end of an uptrend even though in the long term it is still profitable. Second, don't use borrowed money or debt. Because maybe when we buy it, the downtrend has just started. Debt needs to be paid, but if you want to wait for the price to go up, it can take months or years. So that will affect your emotions to sell immediately because there is a debt that must be paid later. Third, timing is also important. As the saying goes, time is gold. In investing, if the timing is wrong, even though we can still profit in the long term, in terms of time we lose so that often here emotional decisions play a role in making the wrong decisions. We all know that bitcoin is for the long term, but when you invest without a strategy and knowledge, your emotions cannot be controlled so it is difficult to hold bitcoin in the long term because of the ups and downs of the bitcoin price.
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One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs .
A good investor will not have to rely on his or her investment to salvage personal needs, why would one even think of such, I think every investment has a procedure, infact I don't think that it is even ideal for anyone to even think of withdrawing from there existing investment to solve problems irrespective of the particular investment that's involved, this is more reason why investors are advised to invest with what there pucket can accommodate to avoid shivering when the market flops, Bitcoin investment remains what it is, it has not change, anyone coming into the investment must understand that he or she is in for long-term stuff and nothing more. Traders are known for those attributes you mentioned that's why they are regarded as quick profit chasera and for that they are not real Bitcoin investors per say because they aren't ready to Hodl for a long-term, they are always in a haste for profit that might be unrealistic at the end.
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You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing.
In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs . Why would an investor become emotional in the first place? That is for traders not investors, because in my own opinion, the key thing is having faith in Bitcoin and it potential on the longer run, if you really have faith in it, and you invest with an amount you can do away with for a very long time, you have no worries because no matter how dip the value of Bitcoin goes, it can always recover, it's just a matter of time, unless you don't know how the value of Bitcoin goes, it's only newbies investors that don't know how Bitcoin moves that will start panicking anytime their is a serious dip in the market, anyone that has gotten a little bit of experience or knowledge on how Bitcoin operate, wouldn't be bothered at all because he knows that it's just a matter of time before it rallies back to even much more better height. Generally, those who invest long will not be emotional about these minor market down and turns. If you notice, you will see that those who invest in short positions expecting to make a quick profit are the ones who get emotional and sell Bitcoin during bad market conditions. Especially those who sell Bitcoin emotionally and cannot make a profit. Those who sell Bitcoin emotionally will regret it later when the price of Bitcoin increases. Bitcoin is a coin that has a very low probability of being lost. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure, on the other hand, those who invest in short positions in Bitcoin cannot achieve such a profit. They may gain a small profit, but most of the time, they cannot. Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them.
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March 22, 2025, 06:53:36 PM |
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You are partially correct because not all investor has the mindset of buying and selling back because of little profit rather what makes some people sell is because they can not control their emotions, have you ask yourself why some great Investors get moved whenever the market dip so much? Do you know what makes investors panic? Whenever the market dip they are been drive by their emotions, there emotions will make them think different things at that instant and if they can not handle it they will sell off and they sell not because it was there initial plan no, they sell because they can not get ride of their emotions. Emotions is what one should deal with before investing.
In addition many investors today struggle with emotional control which it lead to impulsive decisions making during the market downturn, most at time the market dip can trigger fear and panic causing most investors to sell, even if it wasn't their intention of selling off their assets. One of the most important way of fighting this emotions is only when the investment is done with the money from our discretionary income meaning that you are not depending on your investment to solve your personal needs so even when the market is in downturn you will have nothing to worry about with the confident that it will bounce back and more higher over the long term unless maybe you are a short term trader looking for a Short term profit that you will get disappointed and panic during the market downturn because the only thing you are thinking of is to see Bitcoin going up forgetting that the market conprises of the ups and the downs . Why would an investor become emotional in the first place? That is for traders not investors, because in my own opinion, the key thing is having faith in Bitcoin and it potential on the longer run, if you really have faith in it, and you invest with an amount you can do away with for a very long time, you have no worries because no matter how dip the value of Bitcoin goes, it can always recover, it's just a matter of time, unless you don't know how the value of Bitcoin goes, it's only newbies investors that don't know how Bitcoin moves that will start panicking anytime their is a serious dip in the market, anyone that has gotten a little bit of experience or knowledge on how Bitcoin operate, wouldn't be bothered at all because he knows that it's just a matter of time before it rallies back to even much more better height. Generally, those who invest long will not be emotional about these minor market down and turns. If you notice, you will see that those who invest in short positions expecting to make a quick profit are the ones who get emotional and sell Bitcoin during bad market conditions. Especially those who sell Bitcoin emotionally and cannot make a profit. Those who sell Bitcoin emotionally will regret it later when the price of Bitcoin increases. Bitcoin is a coin that has a very low probability of being lost. If you invest for a long time, you will get a profit, it is 100% sure, on the other hand, those who invest in short positions in Bitcoin cannot achieve such a profit. They may gain a small profit, but most of the time, they cannot. Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them. Investing in Bitcoin never guarantees profit, even if an investor holds Bitcoin for a long time, there is no guarantee. Those who are interested in investing should definitely pay close attention to this issue. For those who only consider Bitcoin investment as a quick scheme, investing in Bitcoin can be a cause of loss. But if an investor holds Bitcoin for a long time or he keeps accumulating Bitcoin through DCA regularly, then he has a great chance of making profit from Bitcoin. Another thing that the investor must pay attention that is, one should not invest such money that the funds have to be withdrawn for any urgent need. That is, for those who invest their discretionary income in Bitcoin investment and do DCA regularly, it will be easy for them to hold Bitcoin in the long term.
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Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them.
Let's say we don't give 100% certainty to beginners or to people we recommend to invest in Bitcoin, but what if they ask about the price of Bitcoin since Bitcoin was in the market until now? Of course we also have to show the history of the Bitcoin price to the person who asked. And be sure that when the person sees the price history that has ever happened to Bitcoin, his confidence in Bitcoin will grow and he will also be more confident to immediately invest in Bitcoin. Because almost everyone who has believed in Bitcoin is based on facts that have occurred in the history of Bitcoin and is also based on the number of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are increasing day by day for Bitcoin. Moreover, currently several large companies have also put their interest in Bitcoin so it is okay to give a little confidence to beginners who want to involve themselves to become investors in Bitcoin from now on.
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Well selling some percentage of my investment to even buy more may not be a very bad idea... While we are preaching buying and keeping we also need to know that the future is not promised. Nobody is guaranteed of being alive in the next 10 years - fate decides. In the meantime my investment strategy is buy more and sell less... When the future finally comes, I'll have more than enough bitcoins to leverage and in the present I take advantage of every good enough opportunity.
How will you be selling your Bitcoin investment and still be trying to buying more Bitcoin? Which kind of idea is that? If I should even ask, why did you decide to sell some percentage of your Bitcoin when you know you want to accumulate more? You are trying to be smart, but you will get it wrong if you start using that idea.if you sell your Bitcoin, you may not see the opportunity to buy back at your target price. In fact, I would say that you are trying to turn into a trader with that idea you may hardly grow back your wallet. As an investor, buying and selling is not always the best approach,rather, it’s about accumulating over the long term before selling. And again, if you don’t need the money, it is not necessary to sell after that long run of 5-10years. This is why I keep saying those who wait to buy the dip are mostly traders cos majority of those who buy the dip, buy it to sell when the price bumps and that’s the mindset of a trader. In as much as buying the dip is a known method of buying bitcoin I don’t see it as a strategy for long term accumulation. It is only a great opportunity to add to one’s portfolio at a cheaper rate. Tho I don’t blame those who buy the dip to sell, we’re all in this to make profits whether long term or short term, But long term goals is more profitable than short term
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Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them.
Let's say we don't give 100% certainty to beginners or to people we recommend to invest in Bitcoin, but what if they ask about the price of Bitcoin since Bitcoin was in the market until now? Of course we also have to show the history of the Bitcoin price to the person who asked. And be sure that when the person sees the price history that has ever happened to Bitcoin, his confidence in Bitcoin will grow and he will also be more confident to immediately invest in Bitcoin. Because almost everyone who has believed in Bitcoin is based on facts that have occurred in the history of Bitcoin and is also based on the number of Bitcoin enthusiasts who are increasing day by day for Bitcoin. Moreover, currently several large companies have also put their interest in Bitcoin so it is okay to give a little confidence to beginners who want to involve themselves to become investors in Bitcoin from now on. If you give beginners ideas based on the price history of bitcoin, you may likely be proving to them that bitcoin is only bullish because from the price history of bitcoin, despite that the price become bearish sometimes, it still returns back stronger and apart from during the FTX collapse in 2022 when the price of bitcoin went down low to $18k, the price has been very promising since then so it would be better if you are analyzing the price history of bitcoin to a beginner, you have to let them know that there are uncertainty to what might happen in the future whether the price of bitcoin will continue performing based on the progressiveness of past price history or there will be a turnaround. Bitcoin price should not be speculated based on price history alone as there is need to compare and contrast with the current happenings that can possibly determine if the price will suffer any major setbacks or not.
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Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them.
You are still not understanding the concept of investing in long term. Every Bitcoin investor that invested for long term has made profits and can boost of a successful investment. Over the years, Bitcoin has not failed any long-term investor. If you choose to invest now and hold for 5 to 10 years i am assuring you that you will be profiting from your investment, then. So, i don't see any reason why an investor cannot tell another investor with certainty to invest for long term. I understand the fact that no investment is guaranteed. However long-term investment is different. If an investor properly stays committed to their Bitcoin investment and reach their investment goal for long term that investment will be successful.
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March 22, 2025, 09:13:42 PM |
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Well selling some percentage of my investment to even buy more may not be a very bad idea... While we are preaching buying and keeping we also need to know that the future is not promised. Nobody is guaranteed of being alive in the next 10 years - fate decides. In the meantime my investment strategy is buy more and sell less... When the future finally comes, I'll have more than enough bitcoins to leverage and in the present I take advantage of every good enough opportunity.
How will you be selling your Bitcoin investment and still be trying to buying more Bitcoin? Which kind of idea is that? If I should even ask, why did you decide to sell some percentage of your Bitcoin when you know you want to accumulate more? You are trying to be smart, but you will get it wrong if you start using that idea.if you sell your Bitcoin, you may not see the opportunity to buy back at your target price. In fact, I would say that you are trying to turn into a trader with that idea you may hardly grow back your wallet. As an investor, buying and selling is not always the best approach,rather, it’s about accumulating over the long term before selling. And again, if you don’t need the money, it is not necessary to sell after that long run of 5-10years. This is why I keep saying those who wait to buy the dip are mostly traders cos majority of those who buy the dip, buy it to sell when the price bumps and that’s the mindset of a trader. In as much as buying the dip is a known method of buying bitcoin I don’t see it as a strategy for long term accumulation. It is only a great opportunity to add to one’s portfolio at a cheaper rate. Tho I don’t blame those who buy the dip to sell, we’re all in this to make profits whether long term or short term, But long term goals is more profitable than short term Either trader or just an investor buying in the dip is the best idea. For traders it is most encouraged to buy the dip and sell in the bull season but by that the trading rate might be slowed down because of the waiting timing to sell. But for long time investors it is very suitable and most great idea for them. Infact if it is possible long term investors can accumulate as much money as possible before the dip season and buy as much as possible when it time and hold for as long as he can. With that profit can be made at its maximum.
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March 22, 2025, 10:07:23 PM |
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Bitcoin has a great potential yes and it is also a nice asset that one should invest on but saying that if someone invest in long term that they will have profit and it is 100% sure is what an investor is not suppose to tell someone especially a newbie because we don't know what tomorrow holds for Bitcoin, as a matter of fact no investment that it profit or return in long term is 100% sure or guarantee perhaps we should put away the thoughts of Bitcoin profit being 100% in a long period of time, remember what we are using to invest is what we can afford to let go so telling someone for sure may look like misleading the person, that is making the person to invest more than they are suppose to... because of the assurance you gave them.
You are still not understanding the concept of investing in long term. Every Bitcoin investor that invested for long term has made profits and can boost of a successful investment. Over the years, Bitcoin has not failed any long-term investor. If you choose to invest now and hold for 5 to 10 years i am assuring you that you will be profiting from your investment, then. So, i don't see any reason why an investor cannot tell another investor with certainty to invest for long term. I understand the fact that no investment is guaranteed. However long-term investment is different. If an investor properly stays committed to their Bitcoin investment and reach their investment goal for long term that investment will be successful. Well you have a well clear and convincing explanation over the years bitcoin has consistency shown growth and from the track of time in history bitcoin has nerves sell, most lake this commitment and patience which is reward are substantial
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