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[Grace333]

Do you really believe that there is such thing as a "reliable shitcoin"?  Come on.

Absolutely sir, I also don’t believe there’s anything as a reliable shitcoin. As a matter of fact bitcoin is the only asset I consider to be reliable to an investor only if held for the long term goal.

Anyone that says that their is anything reliable in shit coin is just trying to justify why he took such a risk or he is just trying to make himself feels better because it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that shit coin falls more than they rise and they are created for gambling purpose, and once the hypes they came with died down, that is how they will just die off the market, so it's more of gambling than investment.
So it would be very wrong to put Bitcoin in such a bracket because it's even more reliable as an investment than we can all imagine.

Like, most of these so called shitcoins are basically hype, once the noise fades, the whole project just collapses like nothing happened. People try to defend them only because they already took the risk and do not want to feel like they made a bad move.

But putting Bitcoin in that same category is just wild. Bitcoin has proven itself over and over again, not just by price but by reliability, adoption, and the fact that it survives every single cycle stronger than before. It is not even in the same league.

Shitcoins are just like gambling for quick money, but Bitcoin is long term wealth if you understand what you are holding.

[laspol65]

Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins, they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky. I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

I don't think a real investor will ever engage himself or herself in anything shitcoins because he or she knew there is nothing good and tangible can come from there because first, it is not safe to invest in shitcoins and secondly you can only go about it by trading which is still a wrong way to go or follow as an investor and you can't really call that a source of income because you only get something from shitcoins by luck. A real investor would never put their energy in shitcoins rather they will focus on other things that will fetch them money to be using for their Investment instead of going to try luck with shitcoins.

I agree with you that a real Bitcoin investor will never invest in Shitcoin to lose money. However, no investor will choose Shitcoin to test their luck and earn money because the chances of losing money are highest. However, Shitcoin should not be mentioned because it will confuse new investors, and many investors may fall for the lure of money and choose Shitcoin to get more money.
An ideal investor is ready to hold his investment for a long time according to the Bitcoin DCA method, will buy Bitcoin according to the DCA method and besides, holding Bitcoin will become much easier for him.

[centrum]

Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins, they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky. I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

is not this normal. i have watched the market from 2018 to 2025 and i am a witness myself because in these years many good and bad projects have come. in 2024 there were a good number of airdrops and many people earned a good amount of money from them. but over the last few years i have seen people taking more risk toward bitcoin instead of alt tokens. after donald trump’s win bitcoin went straight from 70k to 124k. nobody could believe it would rise so fast. because of this most traders left altcoins and moved more toward bitcoin.

nowadays most altcoin projects are scams. when even good looking projects turn out to be scams the dreams of the investors get destroyed. bitcoin is the main coin of all coins. if bitcoin fails then the whole cryptocurrency market will collapse. that is why people do not want to take much risk now. i think everyone is moving toward bitcoin because alt tokens are scamming so much.

[fredericktaylor]

Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins, they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky. I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

is not this normal. i have watched the market from 2018 to 2025 and i am a witness myself because in these years many good and bad projects have come. in 2024 there were a good number of airdrops and many people earned a good amount of money from them. but over the last few years i have seen people taking more risk toward bitcoin instead of alt tokens. after donald trump’s win bitcoin went straight from 70k to 124k. nobody could believe it would rise so fast. because of this most traders left altcoins and moved more toward bitcoin.

nowadays most altcoin projects are scams. when even good looking projects turn out to be scams the dreams of the investors get destroyed. bitcoin is the main coin of all coins. if bitcoin fails then the whole cryptocurrency market will collapse. that is why people do not want to take much risk now. i think everyone is moving toward bitcoin because alt tokens are scamming so much.

Investing in Altcoins is very risky, Altcoins are temporary and will not be there tomorrow. Ordinary people and small and big traders have realized that there is a high probability of losing money by investing in Altcoins, so Altcoins investment has decreased a lot and will decrease further in the future. By investing in Bitcoin long-term investment system and holding it for the long term, inflation can be avoided in the future and long-term profits can be expected. Bitcoin digital gold of the future, its use is gradually increasing all over the world and will increase greatly in the future. In 2010, the price of Bitcoin was $0.01, and in 2025 it was $91,500. This is not a fictional, it is reality. I believe those who buy Bitcoin with a long-term plan and hold it for the future will definitely benefit from it.

[Chinesebaby]

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin,

Not all, since usually as what I observe those people trading shitcoins are not holding Bitcoin. Because if they messed up with their shitcoins investment usually they take out their funds they used to buy Bitcoin and think about using it to start again with their shitcoin investment hoping that they can recover.

Yes, it's true that not all who invest in shitcoin also invest in Bitcoin too, which is literally not a safe approach, and I guess that's the reason while @G_Besar used the phrase "Some", meaning their may be people who does and those who don't. And for those who own Bitcoin and keep selling theirs just to buy shitcoin, that's the worst mistake any genuine investor can ever make, knowing how less risk it is compared to shitcoin due to short term profit. Because one thing I have come to realize about shitcoin investors is their greed/quest for short term profits, forgetting the fact that long term profit is the most reliable and authentic. And Bitcoin has got the long term profit ability.

[Bluedrem]

Investing in Altcoins is very risky, Altcoins are temporary and will not be there tomorrow. Ordinary people and small and big traders have realized that there is a high probability of losing money by investing in Altcoins, so Altcoins investment has decreased a lot and will decrease further in the future. By investing in Bitcoin long-term investment system and holding it for the long term, inflation can be avoided in the future and long-term profits can be expected. Bitcoin digital gold of the future, its use is gradually increasing all over the world and will increase greatly in the future. In 2010, the price of Bitcoin was $0.01, and in 2025 it was $91,500. This is not a fictional, it is reality. I believe those who buy Bitcoin with a long-term plan and hold it for the future will definitely benefit from it.

It is uncomfortable for me to review Altcoins in this thread. And comparing Altcoins with Bitcoin is really stupid. Where Bitcoin is decentralized and has the highest level of trust in people, it is never right to compare it with various centralized shit coins that are not decentralized at all and have not yet gained the trust of investors.
If you notice, you will see that those who bought Bitcoin at the highest price in the 2021-22 season and held Bitcoins would still have made a profit if they came and sold their Bitcoins in 2025. Similarly, those who bought Bitcoin at the highest price in 2025 if they can maintain them properly will also make a lot of profit in the distant future. But it is never possible to guarantee this about shit coins.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Investing in Altcoins is very risky, Altcoins are temporary and will not be there tomorrow. Ordinary people and small and big traders have realized that there is a high probability of losing money by investing in Altcoins, so Altcoins investment has decreased a lot and will decrease further in the future. By investing in Bitcoin long-term investment system and holding it for the long term, inflation can be avoided in the future and long-term profits can be expected. Bitcoin digital gold of the future, its use is gradually increasing all over the world and will increase greatly in the future. In 2010, the price of Bitcoin was $0.01, and in 2025 it was $91,500. This is not a fictional, it is reality. I believe those who buy Bitcoin with a long-term plan and hold it for the future will definitely benefit from it.

The fact is that when someone is accumulating altcoins, he or she should know that they are a gambler, not an investor. I do not view those who buy altcoins to hold as investors but as big gamblers. Why would someone call altcoin buying investing when their chances of making or losing their funds are almost 50/50? In fact, the worst thing is aiming to hold altcoins for the long term. So let’s just understand that altcoins are not a way of investing but rather a form of gambling. There is no way we can compare Bitcoin to altcoins. It is better for someone to invest than to gamble investment has an aim and is meant for the long term.

[JayJuanGee]

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The idea of ​​buying at a high price when trading should be discarded altogether, or the same thing will happen. For example, currently, many people are still experiencing FOMO (Focus on Money Movement) buying at the peak and then being dumped again by whales. Because the ones who survive best in a market like this are not those with the most money, but those who are most adaptable.

Huh?

Why you changing the acronym?

You trying to sound smart?

The explanation for "Fear of missing out" relates to folks getting themselves into an emotional state that causes them to engage in bad practices due to their earlier failures to sufficiently prepare themselves financially and/or emotionally...

So if a person is already taking various financial and emotional preparations then they are not going to suffer from fear of missing out.. since their earlier preparations would contribute to their not missing out.

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Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Oh?
 
I am not going treat you like an investor, and I am not going to think about you like an investor, and you are not going to act like an investor since you ONLY have $40 per week to put into bitcoin.

You don't count.

Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins,

They sound distracted to me.

they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky.

They still sound distracted to me.

I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

[Ryu_Ar1]

I think this is the wrong thing to do.

Diversification is when we don't put all our assets into one place. Investing and trading is just a way or method that we choose so it cannot be used as a Diversification because when we try to Diversify then we might be able to make some emphasis such as bitcoin with other assets such as gold bonds or more but when it comes to trading and investing it is not a Diversification.

Diversification might be great for some people who do have a greater financial level but in the end something like this (for me) will not be able to be done when we have a difficult financial condition because we will not maximize in terms of the goals that we will achieve.
So instead of forcing to be in Diversification I prefer to focus on bitcoin alone. Not that this is a condition that some other people might be able to imitate but this is still possible for me to get more optimal results in the future.

Honestly, hodling Bitcoin for long (or long-term investment) and trading (quick gain) does not mean diversification of assets. It is Bitcoin and it is still Bitcoin. Diversity has to do with different assets altogether (like agriculture, gold, stock etc)
However, some people invest into Bitcoin because they want to diversify there means of income (Bitcoin is the diversity).
For some who already has Bitcoin, their financial state may not allow diversity into other assets but continuous accumulation of BTC.

I don't want to assume those who do Diversify in this case because after all, all have their own considerations but of course in a situation like this we must also realize that doing Diversification of course we must be aware of what level of finance we have.

If we can still be said to be minimal then it would be better to focus on one of them first than to diversify but the results are not too optimal because after all in bitcoin apart from the consistency we do in investing of course there is optimization of the results we want to get later.

Don't let when you try to Diversify the funds you have with good goals it makes this not be optimal from the results we get.
I am still focusing on bitcoin and still not imagined to do Diversification for now because I realize that my current financial condition is still not too possible if it is divided into other focuses just because I want to be safe because I know the risk of bitcoin from the start and I want to maximize it.

[Furious 7]

Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Btw emergency funds are not a tool for investing because after all, emergency funds must still be in the initial purpose where emergency funds are functioned for unexpected needs so that we do not need to look for funds from any post to cover these things because they have been prepared from the start.

In addition, I disagree with what you said in this case where investment is done by those large investors who are financially capable enough. If that is the case then most of us here who are investing from $10, $20 and so on are not investors? Then what are we called   

I'm still buying around $30-$40 every week at the moment and I've been doing this for the past few years. Of course I'm not a big investor when it comes to the amount I buy now so I'm not sure what to call myself if I'm not an investor.

[Showlove01]

Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin,

Not all, since usually as what I observe those people trading shitcoins are not holding Bitcoin. Because if they messed up with their shitcoins investment usually they take out their funds they used to buy Bitcoin and think about using it to start again with their shitcoin investment hoping that they can recover.

Yes, it's true that not all who invest in shitcoin also invest in Bitcoin too, which is literally not a safe approach, and I guess that's the reason while @G_Besar used the phrase "Some", meaning their may be people who does and those who don't. And for those who own Bitcoin and keep selling theirs just to buy shitcoin, that's the worst mistake any genuine investor can ever make, knowing how less risk it is compared to shitcoin due to short term profit. Because one thing I have come to realize about shitcoin investors is their greed/quest for short term profits, forgetting the fact that long term profit is the most reliable and authentic. And Bitcoin has got the long term profit ability.

Why would someone even purchase shitcoins and at same time Investing in Bitcoin that is very improper thing to do as an investor and I doubt if an investor who knows what he or she is doing or someone who understands how risky shitcoin is will still go ahead to purchase while they are investing in Bitcoin I mean they literally putting their investment in jeopardy because who knows, they might be tempted to sell their Investment one day may be do to lose they will encounter in their purchase of shitcoin.

[I_Anime]

Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Now you are making sound like investing is only for the rich.  Which not actually right , yes being financially buoyant will give a big advantage when come to investing , but don’t forget that we talking about bitcoin investment here . Like we usually say here , you can start investing in bitcoin with whatever amount you can afford . Having enough time to accumulate is one advantage of longterm investment it will give enough time to accumulate something good .

[ZeroVinsonN]

Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Now you are making sound like investing is only for the rich.  Which not actually right , yes being financially buoyant will give a big advantage when come to investing , but don’t forget that we talking about bitcoin investment here . Like we usually say here , you can start investing in bitcoin with whatever amount you can afford . Having enough time to accumulate is one advantage of longterm investment it will give enough time to accumulate something good .

Anyone who thinks investing in bitcoin is only meant for the rich is completely wrong, you don't need to be rich, you just need to have enough, and by enough I mean you need to have discretionary income available to you, sure rich people have a better chance but the common folk also has a good chance of investing in bitcoin, aside from the big firms and the whales most bitcoin investors who are considered rich are probably being put in that category because of how much bitcoin they have stored away, this doesn't apply to everyone but these people exist.
Alot of the other people who are currently investing in bitcoin can not exactly be considered rich by economic qualification but they are accumulating bitcoin because they can accumulate bitcoin but by bit over a long time until they end up accumulating a considerable amount of it to hit over-accumulation.

[JayJuanGee]

I think this is the wrong thing to do.

Diversification is when we don't put all our assets into one place. Investing and trading is just a way or method that we choose so it cannot be used as a Diversification because when we try to Diversify then we might be able to make some emphasis such as bitcoin with other assets such as gold bonds or more but when it comes to trading and investing it is not a Diversification.

Diversification might be great for some people who do have a greater financial level but in the end something like this (for me) will not be able to be done when we have a difficult financial condition because we will not maximize in terms of the goals that we will achieve.
So instead of forcing to be in Diversification I prefer to focus on bitcoin alone. Not that this is a condition that some other people might be able to imitate but this is still possible for me to get more optimal results in the future.

Honestly, hodling Bitcoin for long (or long-term investment) and trading (quick gain) does not mean diversification of assets. It is Bitcoin and it is still Bitcoin. Diversity has to do with different assets altogether (like agriculture, gold, stock etc)
However, some people invest into Bitcoin because they want to diversify there means of income (Bitcoin is the diversity).
For some who already has Bitcoin, their financial state may not allow diversity into other assets but continuous accumulation of BTC.

I don't want to assume those who do Diversify in this case because after all, all have their own considerations but of course in a situation like this we must also realize that doing Diversification of course we must be aware of what level of finance we have.

If we can still be said to be minimal then it would be better to focus on one of them first than to diversify but the results are not too optimal because after all in bitcoin apart from the consistency we do in investing of course there is optimization of the results we want to get later.

Don't let when you try to Diversify the funds you have with good goals it makes this not be optimal from the results we get.
I am still focusing on bitcoin and still not imagined to do Diversification for now because I realize that my current financial condition is still not too possible if it is divided into other focuses just because I want to be safe because I know the risk of bitcoin from the start and I want to maximize it.

Maybe you should explain a bit better Ryu_Ar1?

You are staying that you are ONLY staying focused on bitcoin, and presumptively making sure that your cashflow management is sufficiently strong with enough back up funds so that you can continue to buy bitcoin without having to sell any or having to stop accumulating bitcoin based on mistakes in your cashflow management practices.

So then what? 

At what point do you consider going beyond the building up of bitcoin and cash?  How BIG do either of those positions have to get before you start to think that it might be a good idea to start to add some other categories of assets?

probably 3-6 months of your expenses would not be too BiG?  what about a year?  What about 2-5 years?  There's gotta be a point that diversification is starting to make sense?

Presumptively the amount that any of us is stocking away into cash (for our back up funds) is generally losing value since the cost of living is likely continuing to go up.. maybe not on a steady basis, but every once in a while we are likely needing to increase our back up funds to make sure that there is enough to cover 3 months of expenses, for example.

Our bitcoin investment may or may not be going up in value.  Look at yourself.  If you had started investing in bitcoin since early 2022 (your forum registration date - congratulations almost 4 years on the forum), then presumptively the amount of your bitcoin holdings had gone up relative to the amount that you put into it... yet at the same time, maybe at some point, you had established enough of a back up funds, but then maybe from time to time you might have had considered that you needed to make adjustments to the amount(s) that you are keeping in your back up funds. .since it may well be the case that your expenses have not stayed the same over the past nearly 4 years.

I'm still buying around $30-$40 every week at the moment and I've been doing this for the past few years. Of course I'm not a big investor when it comes to the amount I buy now so I'm not sure what to call myself if I'm not an investor.

Imagine if you had started buying $30 per week in August 2015, at around the time of your forum registration.

Yes, I know that we cannot roll back the clock, but still..
 
I know that in 2015, there were people who I had suggested to get started in bitcoin, and I suggested any amount, such as $10 per week, yet starting in 2020, I started to recommend $100 per week to those same folks, and sure not everyone can afford $100 per week, but the status of bitcoin has come to justify a 10x increase in the recommendation, even though a 10x increase in the investment is still not going to even come close to what 1/10th could have had accomplished 4-10 years ago.. and surely the further back, the greater the differentiating amounts from back then as compared with now - even though bitcoin's investment thesis is perhaps stronger now than what it was 10-ish years ago.. .and there was maybe some need for bitcoin to survive the 2017 blocksize wars in order for its investment thesis to sufficiently strengthen up and start to make more sense.. - even if even these days, some guys are still distracted into shitcoins... or even not recognizing and/or appreciating the current strength of bitcoin's investment thesis.. (in other words, we are still early)..

Alot of the other people who are currently investing in bitcoin can not exactly be considered rich by economic qualification but they are accumulating bitcoin because they can accumulate bitcoin but by bit over a long time until they end up accumulating a considerable amount of it to hit over-accumulation.

How  long is it going to take for a normie to reach overaccumulation status?  Do you have any ballpark ideas?

[Joeboy]

Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Now you are making sound like investing is only for the rich. Which not actually right , yes being financially buoyant will give a big advantage when come to investing , but don’t forget that we talking about bitcoin investment here .  Like we usually say here , you can start investing in bitcoin with whatever amount you can afford . Having enough time to accumulate is one advantage of longterm investment it will give enough time to accumulate something good .

Sure. Many folks still get it all wrong...In Bitcoin investment your mindset and your ability to effectively plan matters more than your financial status, so folks really need to come off the mentality that Bitcoin is only for the higher class or those with large income. Some persons can earn alot but is still unable to have a discretionary income, while those with  meagre income may now be able to manage and even have some extra aside for investing no matter how little it may be. That is why folks need to understand that the criteria for Bitcoin investment is having a dicretionary income and this is what anyone can have, the rich, the poor, middle-class even student can have it....

[ZeroVinsonN]

Alot of the other people who are currently investing in bitcoin can not exactly be considered rich by economic qualification but they are accumulating bitcoin because they can accumulate bitcoin but by bit over a long time until they end up accumulating a considerable amount of it to hit over-accumulation.

How  long is it going to take for a normie to reach overaccumulation status?  Do you have any ballpark ideas?

It's not completely dependent on time since different people can reach their own over-accumulation over different timeframes but I will definitely take time, for most it will be at least over 10 depending on how aggressively they were accumulating, for others it could also take twice as long even with the same level of aggressiveness so I wouldn't be able to give an exact estimate of how long it was going to take for an investor to hit over-accumulation especially for someone who is DCAing with a relatively small amount even on a weekly basis.

[JayJuanGee]

Alot of the other people who are currently investing in bitcoin can not exactly be considered rich by economic qualification but they are accumulating bitcoin because they can accumulate bitcoin but by bit over a long time until they end up accumulating a considerable amount of it to hit over-accumulation.

How  long is it going to take for a normie to reach overaccumulation status?  Do you have any ballpark ideas?

It's not completely dependent on time since different people can reach their own over-accumulation over different timeframes but I will definitely take time, for most it will be at least over 10 depending on how aggressively they were accumulating, for others it could also take twice as long even with the same level of aggressiveness so I wouldn't be able to give an exact estimate of how long it was going to take for an investor to hit over-accumulation especially for someone who is DCAing with a relatively small amount even on a weekly basis.

I don't know either, yet I think that it is helpful to be prepared to give some guidelines to normies who are stacking bitcoin and trying to reach a status where they can stop stacking at some point.

Many times, i like to think that normal people can think about ways to invest around 10% of their income per year, yet we know that if a person is investing 10% of their income, then it is going to take them 10 years to reach 1 years worth of income3 invested, and then depending on what the BTC price does during that time too.

Of course, there are some folks who are not even ready, willing and/or able to invest 10% of their income into bitcoin, so it is going to take them longer, and if they are somehow able to figure out how to stack 25% or something like that, then such persons investing 25% of their income, they are able to stack 1 year of their income in 4 years.

It is completely within our discretion the extent to which we want to be aggressive or whimpy in our bitcoin accumulation pace, and surely there are some guys who would like to be more aggressive, but they are still limited to how much they are able to assure is within their discretionary income, so if they are not either able to increase income or to cut expesense, then they might not be able to raise the levels of what they are investing into bitcoin.

Some guys (and perhaps even couples in a relationship) are able to really focus on a desire to front load their investment into bitcoin, so surely anyone who puts more into bitcoin faster, then they are more in a position to be able to profit if bitcoin ends up doing some kind of UPpity price move, which gets us back to the idea of figuring out how aggressive that we are able to be without overdoing it, since we still have to live and carry out our expenses, yet there still can be guys who are more willing to sacrifice and to be more aggressive within some kind of a window period of time.. even though surely it can also be stressful to choose to be aggressive in an investment like bitcoin that can be quite volatile in either price direction.

Guys can invest in a combination of DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and he should be able to give some ideas regarding how much of his income that he is expecting to invest each year, and then he should be able to say if his goal is to be able to make his same income without having to work or maybe he wants some multiple - like 2x or 3x his current income without working.  If he is not able to give some ballpark of his expected income level then he might be failing/refusing to do the work.  I have surely run into guys who describe themselves wanting millions of dollars and millions of dollars of annual income, which hardly makes any sense for guys who might be making less than $100k, yet for someone with a current income of $100k per year or more, $1 million or more per year is at least somewhat within grasp.. even though surely I would consider that there should be stepping stones that might be equivalent to their current income or perhaps 2-5x their current income.  If they are using numbers that are greater than 5x their current income, then from my point of view, that is seeming a bit unrealistic... and yeah, of course, guys can do whatever they like, but I don't really get too excited to be talking with guys who are describing unrealistic expectations and especially if they are not really describing some kind of a reasonable (or realistic) path to get there.

So when we are answering how long it is going to take to reach some kind of an overaccumulation status, there are variables related to how aggressive we are ready, willing and/or able to be, and there are also variables that relate to the bitcoin price direction.. so we can ONLY control as much as we can control and if someone is giving us a certain amount of time that they are expecting to reach overaccumulation status, we might want to ask them particulars in regards to which steps they are taking and even if it may or may not be realistic to reach within  the timeline that they had outlined for themselves.

[ChocolateBitcoinK]

Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.

Now you are making sound like investing is only for the rich. Which not actually right , yes being financially buoyant will give a big advantage when come to investing , but don’t forget that we talking about bitcoin investment here .  Like we usually say here , you can start investing in bitcoin with whatever amount you can afford . Having enough time to accumulate is one advantage of longterm investment it will give enough time to accumulate something good .

Sure. Many folks still get it all wrong...In Bitcoin investment your mindset and your ability to effectively plan matters more than your financial status, so folks really need to come off the mentality that Bitcoin is only for the higher class or those with large income. Some persons can earn alot but is still unable to have a discretionary income, while those with  meagre income may now be able to manage and even have some extra aside for investing no matter how little it may be. That is why folks need to understand that the criteria for Bitcoin investment is having a dicretionary income and this is what anyone can have, the rich, the poor, middle-class even student can have it....

Yes, Bitcoin investment is never for a specific class of people, it is equally suitable for people with all types of income, small and large, anyone can invest here according to their ability. There is nothing here that prevents a person with a low income from investing in Bitcoin, everyone is open here, just keep investing with an amount of money according to your ability from what you earn. It will continue naturally only if you can invest consistently, consistency is important here, for those who can maintain the continuity of investment here, this is enough and they will be able to benefit from it in the future with full facilities.

[Furious 7]

I'm still buying around $30-$40 every week at the moment and I've been doing this for the past few years. Of course I'm not a big investor when it comes to the amount I buy now so I'm not sure what to call myself if I'm not an investor.

Imagine if you had started buying $30 per week in August 2015, at around the time of your forum registration.

Yes, I know that we cannot roll back the clock, but still..
 
I know that in 2015, there were people who I had suggested to get started in bitcoin, and I suggested any amount, such as $10 per week, yet starting in 2020, I started to recommend $100 per week to those same folks, and sure not everyone can afford $100 per week, but the status of bitcoin has come to justify a 10x increase in the recommendation, even though a 10x increase in the investment is still not going to even come close to what 1/10th could have had accomplished 4-10 years ago.. and surely the further back, the greater the differentiating amounts from back then as compared with now - even though bitcoin's investment thesis is perhaps stronger now than what it was 10-ish years ago.. .and there was maybe some need for bitcoin to survive the 2017 blocksize wars in order for its investment thesis to sufficiently strengthen up and start to make more sense.. - even if even these days, some guys are still distracted into shitcoins... or even not recognizing and/or appreciating the current strength of bitcoin's investment thesis.. (in other words, we are still early)..

I always get annoyed with myself when I remember things like this because I was wrong in my decision-making and prioritized some junk projects that ended up with nothing. But for now the focus is clear and I have been trying for several years to do consistency for what I want to go even though maybe in terms of nominal it can still be considered standard but in the end for now I am still trying to patch up my past mistakes where I was not in bitcoin before.

Even if I don't compare the past at the beginning I was on the forum with the current conditions but of course there is a very significant difference in terms of results even though I still haven't sold what I have at this time but in terms of accumulation it has seen a few percent profit that I got from several years I was consistent in contrast to what I did before in 1 decade ago which did not produce anything.

[Padi24]

Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.