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December 02, 2025, 10:29:45 AM
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Newbies coming in must know the difference between investment or getting involved in trading. They must also understand the trick behind most shitcoins. Some of these shitcoins or projects higher a well known personality or crypto currency pro to become the campaign manager, promoting the project online and on all social media platforms. By this, since they are well known,  people jump into it, investing life saving, buying and Holding, and out of 100% of such programmes, 90% if not more are just pump and dump projects, making people loose money, that's why we regard then as gambling because nothing is really promised.

Newbies should be wife enough to over smart these traps set by the owners of the project. It is better one gets involved with something more realistic, relaibly trustworthy, though no guarantee of gains at anytime as it is very volatile, but offers value if we Hodl for long, and that's bitcoin.

I agree with you. In fact, all the other types of coins except Bitcoin are shitcoins. And it is not right to compare Bitcoin with shitcoin. When you think about Bitcoin, digital gold, safest, decentralized issues come to mind, and Altcoin is basically scams, unstable, and manipulative. Any time spent behind shitcoin is a waste of time. And trading here is like gambling or lottery, which is why it is much more dangerous. Shitcoin should always be avoided. Many people choose altcoins as a diversification of their assets in addition to investing in Bitcoin. If they really want to diversify their assets, they should invest in personal business, land or other safe assets, but investing in altcoins means being a victim of fraud and putting themselves at a lot of risk.



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December 02, 2025, 12:45:02 PM
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Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.
Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins, they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky. I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

Not all, since usually as what I observe those people trading shitcoins are not holding Bitcoin. Because if they messed up with their shitcoins investment usually they take out their funds they used to buy Bitcoin and think about using it to start again with their shitcoin investment hoping that they can recover. That cycle is repetitive and if they can't abandon the thoughts of trading shitcoins there's really a huge chance that they wont succeed on their plan to do long term investment with Bitcoin.

Much better for them to avoid shitcoin trading and just better focus on Bitcoin if they want to deal with  ideal investment.
And how will they wake up from this slumber? The slumber of shitting around with shitcoins (I mean people doing what taskford just explained). What could be the way out of this shitcoin virus? An antidote? The funny thing is that they know this shitcoins are shitty that is why they look up to Bitcoin for help in their forsaken repetition.
Just wish they get an antidote that will help them awake from their slumber.
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December 02, 2025, 01:06:09 PM
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.

Point of correction dude Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency and saying it is one will jeopardize what you are saying even though you are right on what you are saying. Some newbie are easily carried away with what they hears so don't classify Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency before you mislead newbie. Bitcoin is a digital asset and the reason I'm investing in it, it not necessarily because people are talking about it everywhere rather I'm Investing in it because I have seen it potential and I believe in it and some day I will be among those that will laugh last and celebrate for getting to my target.
This is one thing a lot of people get wrong just because we are fans of bitcoin and see it as the only Valid coin doesn’t make it different from cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency.
Cryptocurrency is the term used to describe currency that is derived or developed  from cryptography and works on blockchain. Bitcoin surely exhibits both characteristics so it can be said to be a cryptocurrency. As the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin is the original while all others that came after it were only trying to replicate the model and so they’re called Altcoin (Alternative Coins).
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December 02, 2025, 01:12:39 PM
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Shitcoin is a form of gambling. I'm sure no one denies that, even if they try their luck with shitcoin, they also realize it's a gamble.
As an investment, nothing can compare to Bitcoin, let alone shitcoin, Of course the difference is huge and I think we all agree that there's no investment that promises a more promising future than Bitcoin.
Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin, and any profits they make from shitcoins are also transferred to Bitcoin. Because they are also fully aware that Bitcoin is far superior to shitcoins, they also use money earned from other sources to buy Bitcoin. But if they lose money while trying their luck with shitcoins, they're probably willing to accept it because they fundamentally know that buying shitcoins is extremely risky. I personally have always avoided shitcoins because I don't like the high risk involved, but when it comes to Bitcoin, I never hesitate to buy it and hold it for the long term, even if there are price corrections like the one that occurred a few days ago.

Not all, since usually as what I observe those people trading shitcoins are not holding Bitcoin. Because if they messed up with their shitcoins investment usually they take out their funds they used to buy Bitcoin and think about using it to start again with their shitcoin investment hoping that they can recover. That cycle is repetitive and if they can't abandon the thoughts of trading shitcoins there's really a huge chance that they wont succeed on their plan to do long term investment with Bitcoin.

Much better for them to avoid shitcoin trading and just better focus on Bitcoin if they want to deal with  ideal investment.
And how will they wake up from this slumber? The slumber of shitting around with shitcoins (I mean people doing what taskford just explained). What could be the way out of this shitcoin virus? An antidote? The funny thing is that they know this shitcoins are shitty that is why they look up to Bitcoin for help in their forsaken repetition.
Just wish they get an antidote that will help them awake from their slumber.

Those who invest in Bitcoin will never invest in shitcoin. Because if you invest in trusted coins, the investment never fails, that is why it is most important to be selective in Bitcoin investment. Bitcoin investment keeps people's money safe, those who invest in shitcoin have a lot of greed for money, which is why they make all these bad investments to double their money in an instant. But they do not know that the possibility of losing capital in shitcoin is the highest, but investing in Bitcoin is easy to hold for the long term and if you invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method and hold the investment for a long time, you will definitely get benefits and the profit will be several times more than the capital. That is why Bitcoin investment is popular with every person because it is trusted.

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December 02, 2025, 02:57:42 PM
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but for shitcoins I believe that shitcoins are very high risk and also high reward, because some may crash at start or some may grow fast, so it often appear to me to always invest money you can afford to lose and never to sell your bitcoin just to chase them.
In terms general investment plan or will I say strategy you're correct but man desist from even advising anyone to invest in any unrealistic stuff, your explanation about shitcoin has pointed out that shitcoin has no life in it, so are saying people should invest in something that has a high possibility of making them cry later, you can do better than this mate, it is not certain that we must invest in everything, I better discourage anyone from investing in shitcoin because I don't see any reason why I should encourage any investor to invest in any shady digital asset when Bitcoin can guve such person what he or she wants if they are patient enough to ride gently and steadily and hodl for a long term, as you said any interested person in shitty shitty can gamble with what they can afford to lose, this statement signifies that you arent even confident enough to advise person on such, then why are you even seeing it as an option in the first place.

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December 02, 2025, 03:12:31 PM
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Technically bitcoin is part of crypto currenciess, so I don't really think anyone classifying bitcoin as part of crypto is entirely wrong. But it is advisable we specifically call bitcoin by it's name so that we will be direct and anyone we are talking with will know the crypto we are talking about. If you were thinking that bitcoin is not among crypto you are wrong as bitcoin is technically part of crypto.
Bitcoin was the first Crypto currency created and the most reliable of them all. The crypto market is flooded with fake coins and these coins are also part of Crypto Currencies. When we use Cryptocurrency instead of Bitcoin, Newbies will mistake Bitcoin for some random Shitcoins in the market. Like you said, we should specifically call bitcoin by it's name, that way newbies will understand that it is Bitcoin and not Shitcoins, with this  your texts can be convey amicable without making them complicated more especially for the sake of newbies.
Bitcoin is only, the only one and there is nothing like it, nothing compares to it, it has no other name, just only Bitcoin. So to avoid confusion, it is better not to call Bitcoin by other names. We will not see anything else as successful as Bitcoin, so only Bitcoin is the best choice for investment. Today, thousands of new tokens have come into the market, most of which are created without any real value, project or long-term stability, investing in them will only lead to losing money, they never bring any good future prospects, investing in shitcoins is gambling.

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December 02, 2025, 04:02:19 PM
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I understand what you guys are talking about, and it's true that some people go into shitcoins just because the hope of quick profit, but that does not really mean investing in both shitcoins and bitcoin is wrong, what really matters most is having a genuine plan and staying discipline, as a brilliant investor you can hold the two both bitcoin and shitcoins, but with the good mindset, bitcoin at a first should be main part of any crypto portfolio because is has strongest history with long term potential, it is not hype it's build on real adoption  and scarcity.

 but for shitcoins I believe that shitcoins are very high risk and also high reward, because some may crash at start or some may grow fast, so it often appear to me to always invest money you can afford to lose and never to sell your bitcoin just to chase them.

Investment in anything is a choice but please advise people especially newbies to follow the path of Bitcoin infact I don't see putting money into Shitcoins as an investment, because having high risk and high reward is like a gamble with my money and the reward is by chance. Yes Bitcoin has risks but you can't compare the risk factor to shitcoins cause it's beat volatility on several occasions by dumping and pumping again, going higher after making different ATH so I wonder why anyone with a right sense for investment would choose coins that are controlled and manipulated by their owners over Bitcoin. Infact most of those coins (shitcoins) depend on the growth of Bitcoin to grow so why would one leave Bitcoin for them.

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December 02, 2025, 04:13:37 PM
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.

Point of correction dude Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency and saying it is one will jeopardize what you are saying even though you are right on what you are saying. Some newbie are easily carried away with what they hears so don't classify Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency before you mislead newbie. Bitcoin is a digital asset and the reason I'm investing in it, it not necessarily because people are talking about it everywhere rather I'm Investing in it because I have seen it potential and I believe in it and some day I will be among those that will laugh last and celebrate for getting to my target.
This is one thing a lot of people get wrong just because we are fans of bitcoin and see it as the only Valid coin doesn’t make it different from cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency.
Cryptocurrency is the term used to describe currency that is derived or developed  from cryptography and works on blockchain. Bitcoin surely exhibits both characteristics so it can be said to be a cryptocurrency. As the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin is the original while all others that came after it were only trying to replicate the model and so they’re called Altcoin (Alternative Coins).
Check here for the word cryptocurrency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency

For the sake of not trying to mislead newbies or the public into investing in any shitcoin I think is the more better reason why you don’t have to associate bitcoin as a cryptocurrency. In this current space, lots of scam and fraud have taken over the space through some shitcoins, and at such most people whenever they hear the word “Cryptocurrency “ they tend to associate it to those scam shitty coins which is why you don’t have to associate bitcoin to it, rather it’s better you just refer or call it bitcoin as it is because for me I think bitcoin is in a world of its own and have stand the test of time and have really distinguished itself from these other cryptocurrencies or shitcoins.


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December 02, 2025, 04:31:02 PM
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Technically bitcoin is part of crypto currenciess, so I don't really think anyone classifying bitcoin as part of crypto is entirely wrong. But it is advisable we specifically call bitcoin by it's name so that we will be direct and anyone we are talking with will know the crypto we are talking about. If you were thinking that bitcoin is not among crypto you are wrong as bitcoin is technically part of crypto.
Bitcoin was the first Crypto currency created and the most reliable of them all. The crypto market is flooded with fake coins and these coins are also part of Crypto Currencies. When we use Cryptocurrency instead of Bitcoin, Newbies will mistake Bitcoin for some random Shitcoins in the market. Like you said, we should specifically call bitcoin by it's name, that way newbies will understand that it is Bitcoin and not Shitcoins, with this  your texts can be convey amicable without making them complicated more especially for the sake of newbies.
Bitcoin is only, the only one and there is nothing like it, nothing compares to it, it has no other name, just only Bitcoin. So to avoid confusion, it is better not to call Bitcoin by other names. We will not see anything else as successful as Bitcoin, so only Bitcoin is the best choice for investment. Today, thousands of new tokens have come into the market, most of which are created without any real value, project or long-term stability, investing in them will only lead to losing money, they never bring any good future prospects, investing in shitcoins is gambling.
You are right, The truth is investing in Bitcoin and investing in Shitcoin are not the same. If you invest in Bitcoin, no matter how low the price is or if the price drops, there is a possibility of the price reaching the highest level and recovering later, but there is no possibility of that happening in Shitcoin. Therefore, it is wrong to compare investing in Bitcoin with investing in other coins. Those who invest in Shitcoin are not investors. They think of making a short-term profit from it like gambling, but later they face big losses by investing here.

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December 02, 2025, 05:28:12 PM
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, .
Damn it man, so you decided to invest in Bitcoin because it is the talk of town? this means that assuming shitcoins was also the talk of town you would probably already be investing into it. Popularity should not always be the basis for determining your investment options.  Investment requires brains, research and patience not you blindly following hype that may fuck up your entire investment. Am not in any way undermining the past and future potential of Bitcoin at all. Bitcoin is strong with a proven track record, but then take you time to go through and research about the history of Bitcoin right from the previous years and you will personally be convinced why it is for a fact the very best to invest into. Research and think things out yourself, don't always be relying on hype.

You seems to be getting the whole thing all misunderstood, I never said my reason of investing into Bitcoin it's due to the wild spread but it's because I saw a potential in it, you're supposed to understand me when I said that Bitcoin is the talk of the town.  Well I'm not here to dispute with you, I only said that so as those who are finding it hard to identify the right coin would learn from other people's experience because sometimes we discover new things through the awareness that people are creating concerning a particular thing so after that we also need to make intensive research to see what the stuff is all about if it's something that could add a value to your life because you can't tell me that you just identify Bitcoin yourself without hearing it else where maybe the media or from a friend then you now decide to go into detail, so don't make it look like you already knew Bitcoin and it's potential without hearing it else where.
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize..  

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.

Point of correction dude Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency and saying it is one will jeopardize what you are saying even though you are right on what you are saying. Some newbie are easily carried away with what they hears so don't classify Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency before you mislead newbie. Bitcoin is a digital asset and the reason I'm investing in it, it not necessarily because people are talking about it everywhere rather I'm Investing in it because I have seen it potential and I believe in it and some day I will be among those that will laugh last and celebrate for getting to my target.
This is one thing a lot of people get wrong just because we are fans of bitcoin and see it as the only Valid coin doesn’t make it different from cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency.
Cryptocurrency is the term used to describe currency that is derived or developed  from cryptography and works on blockchain. Bitcoin surely exhibits both characteristics so it can be said to be a cryptocurrency. As the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin is the original while all others that came after it were only trying to replicate the model and so they’re called Altcoin (Alternative Coins).
Check here for the word cryptocurrency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency
Fuck cryptocurrency this is not a thread to be talking about crypto but bitcoin, there are other thread where you can be taking about cryptocurrency so that you won't mislead people into investing into shitcoins, to make it more understandable you can either say bitcoin or shitcoin and not cryptocurrency. Alot of scam investment has been involved in this shity cryptocurrency that's why is very important to be more specific so that newbies won't invest into shitcoin thinking it's BTC.

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December 02, 2025, 06:31:46 PM
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.

Point of correction dude Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency and saying it is one will jeopardize what you are saying even though you are right on what you are saying. Some newbie are easily carried away with what they hears so don't classify Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency before you mislead newbie. Bitcoin is a digital asset and the reason I'm investing in it, it not necessarily because people are talking about it everywhere rather I'm Investing in it because I have seen it potential and I believe in it and some day I will be among those that will laugh last and celebrate for getting to my target.
This is one thing a lot of people get wrong just because we are fans of bitcoin and see it as the only Valid coin doesn’t make it different from cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency.
Cryptocurrency is the term used to describe currency that is derived or developed  from cryptography and works on blockchain. Bitcoin surely exhibits both characteristics so it can be said to be a cryptocurrency. As the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin is the original while all others that came after it were only trying to replicate the model and so they’re called Altcoin (Alternative Coins).
Check here for the word cryptocurrency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency

For the sake of not trying to mislead newbies or the public into investing in any shitcoin I think is the more better reason why you don’t have to associate bitcoin as a cryptocurrency. In this current space, lots of scam and fraud have taken over the space through some shitcoins, and at such most people whenever they hear the word “Cryptocurrency “ they tend to associate it to those scam shitty coins which is why you don’t have to associate bitcoin to it, rather it’s better you just refer or call it bitcoin as it is because for me I think bitcoin is in a world of its own and have stand the test of time and have really distinguished itself from these other cryptocurrencies or shitcoins.



I agree with you and I think the reason why some persons has made mistake in this investment is because they have made them believe that all the coins are cryptocurrency and as such they don't really know whiich one is worthy to invest on and it is pretty clear that some have taken shitcoins as bitcoins because of wrong information so we should be really guided on the kind or type of things we say here because it can cause a lot of havoc because newbie brain are very fragile and some are very vulnerable. Using Bitcoin instead of cryptocurrency will be much better and appreciated.

 
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December 02, 2025, 06:33:16 PM
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I understand what you guys are talking about, and it's true that some people go into shitcoins just because the hope of quick profit, but that does not really mean investing in both shitcoins and bitcoin is wrong, what really matters most is having a genuine plan and staying discipline, as a brilliant investor you can hold the two both bitcoin and shitcoins, but with the good mindset, bitcoin at a first should be main part of any crypto portfolio because is has strongest history with long term potential, it is not hype it's build on real adoption  and scarcity.

 but for shitcoins I believe that shitcoins are very high risk and also high reward, because some may crash at start or some may grow fast, so it often appear to me to always invest money you can afford to lose and never to sell your bitcoin just to chase them.

Investment in anything is a choice but please advise people especially newbies to follow the path of Bitcoin infact I don't see putting money into Shitcoins as an investment, because having high risk and high reward is like a gamble with my money and the reward is by chance. Yes Bitcoin has risks but you can't compare the risk factor to shitcoins cause it's beat volatility on several occasions by dumping and pumping again, going higher after making different ATH so I wonder why anyone with a right sense for investment would choose coins that are controlled and manipulated by their owners over Bitcoin. Infact most of those coins (shitcoins) depend on the growth of Bitcoin to grow so why would one leave Bitcoin for them.

‎People loves chasing small coins thinking they will see quick profit, whereas the result often end in losses. People who have proper understanding knows that Bitcoin is the best and safest to invest in. It has proven it to us multiply times and historically , even when it dips hard,  it always recovers and beat it former performance. Well it's people choice to choose whatever they want to invest in but even if they want to chase rubbish coins, they should use maybe 5% of their funds incase of losses.

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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize.. 

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.

At first nothing good come that easy , but funny how bitcoin as already started putting smile on folks faces with it being close to its peak yet . It’s called digital gold for a reason,  sure there are a lot of up and down movement due to market volatility.

But still always fixed your mind on the prize . We all are aware of bitcoin potential but still after fast wins looking 1000x token , investing in random shitcoins just to achieve but the end usually endup being rugpull . So focus on coin that matters , the heart of cryptocurrency which is bitcoin.
Those who are in too much of a hurry and want to achieve a lot in a short time are the ones who ultimately fail in investing because investing is not like buying and selling after a few days. Those who have enough patience and the ability to take risks usually get good returns from investing in Bitcoin at the end of a certain period of time. If you look at all those people who bought Bitcoin in 2022 but sold it again at some profit, then at the same time different investors invested and they continued to invest continuously and have held their investment till now, then who will benefit more out of these two people? Of course the second person because he has held it till now and if he continues to invest like this in the future and holds Bitcoin for a longer period of time, then his profit will be seen to be increasing. So to be successful in investing in Bitcoin, first of all I would say that you should be patient and try to increase your portfolio with additional money by believing in your investment.

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December 02, 2025, 06:53:02 PM
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Some people who try their luck with shitcoins are those who also hold Bitcoin,
Not all, since usually as what I observe those people trading shitcoins are not holding Bitcoin. Because if they messed up with their shitcoins investment usually they take out their funds they used to buy Bitcoin and think about using it to start again with their shitcoin investment hoping that they can recover.
Yes, it's true that not all who invest in shitcoin also invest in Bitcoin too, which is literally not a safe approach, and I guess that's the reason while @G_Besar used the phrase "Some", meaning their may be people who does and those who don't. And for those who own Bitcoin and keep selling theirs just to buy shitcoin, that's the worst mistake any genuine investor can ever make, knowing how less risk it is compared to shitcoin due to short term profit. Because one thing I have come to realize about shitcoin investors is their greed/quest for short term profits, forgetting the fact that long term profit is the most reliable and authentic. And Bitcoin has got the long term profit ability.
I don't know why some folks still find favour in buying shitcoin because i see buying other coins apart from Bitcoin is a waste of income, so i will advise to all newbies that has not consider buying shitcoin should not give it a thought because it is a totally waste of money, I can testify that ever since i was introduced to Bitcoin and i see on how with works, from then i have so much faith that one day bitcoin value in the parallel market is what will be favorable to all investors that has been buying and accumulating bitcoin for a very long term.

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Long-term growth requires an emergency fund. When starting a long-term investment, of course, this fund must be saved. Because we expect large profits, and that naturally requires a long period of time, so it's not wrong for me to mention such a point.
Investing is usually often done by large investors who are financially sufficient and willing to invest a portion of their income in Bitcoin, even for a long time.
Now you are making sound like investing is only for the rich. Which not actually right , yes being financially buoyant will give a big advantage when come to investing , but don’t forget that we talking about bitcoin investment here .  Like we usually say here , you can start investing in bitcoin with whatever amount you can afford . Having enough time to accumulate is one advantage of longterm investment it will give enough time to accumulate something good .
Sure. Many folks still get it all wrong...In Bitcoin investment your mindset and your ability to effectively plan matters more than your financial status, so folks really need to come off the mentality that Bitcoin is only for the higher class or those with large income. Some persons can earn alot but is still unable to have a discretionary income, while those with  meagre income may now be able to manage and even have some extra aside for investing no matter how little it may be. That is why folks need to understand that the criteria for Bitcoin investment is having a dicretionary income and this is what anyone can have, the rich, the poor, middle-class even student can have it....
Yes, Bitcoin investment is never for a specific class of people, it is equally suitable for people with all types of income, small and large, anyone can invest here according to their ability. There is nothing here that prevents a person with a low income from investing in Bitcoin, everyone is open here, just keep investing with an amount of money according to your ability from what you earn. It will continue naturally only if you can invest consistently, consistency is important here, for those who can maintain the continuity of investment here, this is enough and they will be able to benefit from it in the future with full facilities.

Of course people who are able to increase their discretionary income, which means getting their income higher than their expenses, have chances to benefit more from bitcoin as compared with folks who are not ready, willing and/or able to increase their discretionary income.

Poor people are more challenged, but they can still quite greatly benefit from bitcoin, perhaps poor people can benefit more than rich people ,yet they might still have to figure out ways to make sure that they organize themselves and manage their cashflows so that they invest into bitcoin aggressively enough yet not so aggressively as to overdo it and end up making their situation worse because they engaged in poor cashflow management practices.

Emergency funds should be part of a serious Bitcoin investor's discretionary funds, you don't need to use emergency funds to buy Bitcoin, specifically the funds are kept for 'emergencies. You need to have allocations from your discretionary funds to buy Bitcoin just like you keep aside funds for your emergencies.

Bitcoin investment is for everybody that have money to buy it, the rich and poor can buy Bitcoin, each according to their financial strengths. Smart investors that understands financial management will buy from their discretionary funds and do DCA method to hodl for a long term.
Emergencies funds should not be the only funds set aside for later purpose. Emergencies funds should be strictly for emergency because emergencies can come at any time, it is not something that is planned.

Investors should also keep some savings as well from their discretionary income, the purpose of the saving can be for several reasons, afterall you can have many savings account as you want. A savings can be a fund where you tap into for accumulating more bitcoins when there is a dip or when you want to invest aggressively. Not your emergency fund.

I sent you a merit, since you have the idea correct in that guys will frequently have money saved up that goes beyond emergency funds, and emergency funds may well be a certain amount of money that we keep no matter what and we don't let our cash cushion go below that amount, absent an actual emergency.

I don't agree with the idea of changing levels of aggressiveness based on dips, even though I agree that if we have strong cashflow management systems in place, then we are able to increase our level of aggressiveness based on our having cash cushions in place... Yet, at the same time, if there is a dip, we still may well need to make sure that our level of aggressiveness is tempered based on our level of extra cash, not based on whether there is a dip or not... so sometimes we might have extra money for buying the dip, yet sometimes we may well still run out of money when the price is dipping, so we should not get sloppy based on there being a dip in the BTC price. 

It seems to me that we need to temper our level of aggressiveness based on the strength of our cashflow management and not based on whether we perceive that the BTC price has dipped or not.

Technically bitcoin is part of crypto currenciess, so I don't really think anyone classifying bitcoin as part of crypto is entirely wrong. But it is advisable we specifically call bitcoin by it's name so that we will be direct and anyone we are talking with will know the crypto we are talking about. If you were thinking that bitcoin is not among crypto you are wrong as bitcoin is technically part of crypto.
Bitcoin was the first Crypto currency created and the most reliable of them all. The crypto market is flooded with fake coins and these coins are also part of Crypto Currencies. When we use Cryptocurrency instead of Bitcoin, Newbies will mistake Bitcoin for some random Shitcoins in the market. Like you said, we should specifically call bitcoin by it's name, that way newbies will understand that it is Bitcoin and not Shitcoins, with this  your texts can be convey amicable without making them complicated more especially for the sake of newbies.

There is no reason to treat shitcoins amicably.

Fuck shitcoins.

Sure the main reason that we try to use the term bitcoin when referring to bitcoin or we might specify if we are talking about bitcoin or shitcoins, is so that we don't confuse folks in regards to what we are talking about, including that if we are talking about shitcoins, then we should specify that instead of using some vague, misleading and ambiguous language to refer to crypto and not specify what we are talking about.   

Yes, bitcoin is part of crypto, yet we don't refer to vague ideas about crypto because it is misleading and might even give the impression that we believe bitcoin is similar to crypto, when it is not.  A large majoirty of times, shitcoins are affinity scams around bitcoin, and they just love the fact that people are treating them as if they were similar to bitcoin or within the same category as bitcoin.. .. so even if they are within the same category, it is still likely best to clarify by denigrating them rather than allowing folks to conclude that bitcoin is similar to shitcoins or various shitcoin projects.

It is true that some folks cannot resist gambling, so they might want to get involved in shitcoins, yet hopefully for their own good, they are able to limit the exposure of their time, energy and/or value to shitcoins (and/or to trading of bitcoin) to no more than 10% of the size of their bitcoin investment and maybe even that 10% might be too much, even though gamblers frequently have difficulties limiting themselves.. so we can ONLY do so much to help others to make sure to stay focused on bitcoin first and learn bitcoin and learn how bitcoin relates to various shitcoins prior to getting involved in shitcoins, set up some bitcoin accumulation strategies and managing your cashflow and your time and energy around bitcoin first, and then if you have time, energy and value remaining, then sure you can get involved in shitcoins, but be careful to not get distracted into that crap.. and keep your eye on the prize.. it can take years and years and years to really build up a bitcoin base in terms of finances and even just basic understandings...so careful in distractions and/or diluting of our time, energy and/or value.

We can denigrate shitcoins and some folks still won't be able to resist getting involved in them, and hopefully, we have enough discipline to not let ourselves to go down that distracted road.  At the same time, each person is free to do what they like, even if they choose dumb shit and they get distracted by bells and whistles and beliefs that they can get rich quicker by involving themselves with inferior products, practices and/or time/energy management..

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I'm quite certain that some people are motivated by investing in Bitcoin to seek wealth. Of course, that's not wrong, but sometimes reckless actions without doing prior research can lead to severe panic when the market fluctuates.

I strongly agree that someone shouldn't invest using their daily funds, as this won't make life more peaceful but will only cause more mental stress. Therefore, there are several other things or methods that must be implemented to ensure that what is planned goes according to plan.
One plan that every investor, or those who want to become investors by holding Bitcoin, must implement is to prepare a discretionary fund, which is not to be used for anything other than buying Bitcoin.

You are mixing up terms.  Discretionary funds (or discretionary income) is how much money you have left after basic expenses.  You don't set it up.  It is what it is, except you can try to increase your income and/or decrease your epxenses in order to change the amount of your discretionary funds each month, week or however you are measuring when you get paid and when your expenses are due.

This means that such basic preparation must be done before investing in any sector of life.

You sound lost.  It is not that hard. 

Sure, we might need to make sure that we have enough money that is left after our expenses to get started buying bitcoin..

And, we also might have to assure that we continue to have extra money coming in if we are going to continue to buy bitcoin.

Yet, we don't need to engage in any kind of deep preparations prior to getting started.. The main thing to get started is to figure out that we have some extra money.. If we make a mistake and we think that we have extra money, and then we don't have extra money, then we have invested beyond our discretionary income...

yet when we start how much are we starting with?  $100?  $10?  or some other amount?

If we continue to invest, then we likely have to have more organization if we want to make sure that we have an extra $100 every week to buy bitcoin, and if we are not sure if we have $100 every week, then we might need to use a lower amount, such as $10 per week or some other amount that works for our level of discretionary income.

Before becoming an investor, everyone should have a well-thought-out plan,

You really think so?  You seem to be imposing extra conditions to get started investing in bitcoin.

One thing is getting started and another thing is keeping on going with the investment..

I suppose if a person gets started investing in bitcoin and he is considering that he is investing 4-10 years or longer, then he has to come to that kind of a resolution, otherwise he might get involved in bitcoin as a trade rather than investing, yet maybe some folks are not able to commit to investing right away, but they can commit to getting started. 

how much time do you think a person needs to spend planning before getting started with bitcoin?    What is going to be in the plan?

such as a daily fund, an emergency fund, and finally, a fund for investment capital. Therefore, the use of funds themselves will not be haphazard, even if it is our own money. This speaks to long-term investment, which must be carried out more consistently.

You don't think that a person can get started investing in bitcoin and figure out various aspects of his investing as he goes?

Let's say that a person has $100 in his pocket?  Do you think that he can figure out if he needs that for expenses or if he might be able to use some of it to get started buying bitcoin?  Or do you think that he needs to do something first?

Point of correction dude Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency and saying it is one will jeopardize what you are saying even though you are right on what you are saying. Some newbie are easily carried away with what they hears so don't classify Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency before you mislead newbie.
Technically bitcoin is part of crypto currenciess, so I don't really think anyone classifying bitcoin as part of crypto is entirely wrong. But it is advisable we specifically call bitcoin by it's name so that we will be direct and anyone we are talking with will know the crypto we are talking about. If you were thinking that bitcoin is not among crypto you are wrong as bitcoin is technically part of crypto.
Many people say, Bitcoin is not crypto, in fact, the issue needs to be seen from both a technical and cultural perspective.Yes, technically Bitcoin is part of cryptocurrency, because it uses cryptography and runs on blockchain. There is no room to think of it separately from this aspect. But in practical discussions, we often mention Bitcoin separately, because its purpose, network security, decentralization and market maturity, are at a completely different level from other cryptos. So if someone says, I only mean BTC by crypto, that is not wrong, again, Bitcoin is part of crypto, this is technically true. When someone wants to say Bitcoin, it is better to mention it separately.

We try to not use the term "crypto" to refer to bitcoin because we are wanting to specify what we are talking about  and not provide free space to shitcoins to claim that they are part of the same club, when they are not. Shitcoins are affinity scams.. which means that they benefit from being confused with bitcoin..so there is no reason to be nice to them..

If we are talking about bitcoin, then we use the term bitcoin, if we are talking about some shitcoin or the shitcoin space then we may well need to clarify that  is what we are talking about, to the extent that might be relevant to what we are saying... so leaving it vague is problematic... and so yeah, it might be more work to clarify what we are talking about, or even to say that we are talking about bitcoin and also shitcoins when we are talking about bitcoin and shitcoins. 

Frequently, governments and/or financial institutions and/or or even media will refer to bitcoin and also to shitcoins, and sometimes they will not specify what they are talking about, yet that does not mean that it is a good idea to use the same level of vagueness when we are talking about what to do or what to not do. 

Some of us have likely seen references to  "the crypto markets" are up, down or sideways.  What the fuck does that mean?  Are we talking about bitcoin or not?  There is no such thing as "the crypto markets" unless we are talking about bitcoin. .and then we can say what is going on with bitcoin, and the extent that we might be interested in the performance of various other shitcoins, we can describe that too, in the event that it might be relevant to what we might be talking about.. yet hopefully we are not making vague references to crypto merely because others are making the same error...

If we are in a conversation with someone (let's say outside of his forum), and the person mentions something about "crypto" aren't we going to want to get clarification.. at least if we are really trying to have a conversation with the person, yet if we are just passing the person and not engaging in meaningful communication, then maybe it might not matter very much in regards to the reference that the person was making.

Of course, in a forum like this, we have an ability to seek clarification and/or even complain if any member is referring to crypto and not being clear in regards to the reference.

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December 03, 2025, 05:25:49 AM
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One plan that every investor, or those who want to become investors by holding Bitcoin, must implement is to prepare a discretionary fund, which is not to be used for anything other than buying Bitcoin.

You are mixing up terms.  Discretionary funds (or discretionary income) is how much money you have left after basic expenses.  You don't set it up.  It is what it is, except you can try to increase your income and/or decrease your epxenses in order to change the amount of your discretionary funds each month, week or however you are measuring when you get paid and when your expenses are due.
Discretionary Income is indeed not some budget that folks can decide at will to set up or to determine like some folks misconceives. Discretionary income are like those remnant or better still like you said sir- those money which is left after folks must have settled their basic expenses like payment of rent, food, bills and whatnot.....When it concerns discretionary income, the only thing that folks are capable of doing is either to shift the number higher/increase their discretionary income or  to reduce it/ shift the number lower. And they can shift the number higher / achieve an increment in the discretionary income by curbing any unnecessary spending or getting a bump in their income or even both.

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but for shitcoins I believe that shitcoins are very high risk and also high reward, because some may crash at start or some may grow fast, so it often appear to me to always invest money you can afford to lose and never to sell your bitcoin just to chase them.
In terms general investment plan or will I say strategy you're correct but man desist from even advising anyone to invest in any unrealistic stuff, your explanation about shitcoin has pointed out that shitcoin has no life in it, so are saying people should invest in something that has a high possibility of making them cry later, you can do better than this mate, it is not certain that we must invest in everything, I better discourage anyone from investing in shitcoin because I don't see any reason why I should encourage any investor to invest in any shady digital asset when Bitcoin can guve such person what he or she wants if they are patient enough to ride gently and steadily and hodl for a long term, as you said any interested person in shitty shitty can gamble with what they can afford to lose, this statement signifies that you arent even confident enough to advise person on such, then why are you even seeing it as an option in the first place.
I like this thread it has a punchline that trows off any form of shitcoins out of it, they have no place here where the truth is told without minsing words. I have pretty much researched cryptocurrency and I can agree that Bitcoin is different from all the chaff in the crypto market. It has proven it's potential that it is a store of value something that no shitcoins in the market can come close.

Why people get scammed is because they are quick to rush into what they don't understand and they get burnt before they realize the huge mess that they bought with their money. It is simple if you want to buy an asset that has proven that it can be trusted then buy Bitcoin, if you want to gamble with your funds buy shitcoins.
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December 03, 2025, 06:35:15 AM
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Why people get scammed is because they are quick to rush into what they don't understand and they get burnt before they realize the huge mess that they bought with their money. It is simple if you want to buy an asset that has proven that it can be trusted then buy Bitcoin, if you want to gamble with your funds buy shitcoins.
This mostly applies to newbies that knows little or nothing in the space, but their are greedy investors that knows how dangerous investment in shit coin are, but they still went ahead to invest huge amounts of money in it due to greed of 10 to 100x, so it's not just ignorance that gets investors burnt when investing in shit coin, greed is also an important player too.
If you love gambling and you wishes to gamble on them, then my only advice to you is that make sure you don't use more than 5% of your discretionary income, so that you wouldn't be that bothered if it doesn't goes as planned, but anything more than that is actually unwise.

 
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Keep buying bitcoin seems like a good idea... but yeah, I am not sure what to do about distracted folks.  Hopefully, they know how to channel their energies, so that they do not lose their ideas about what is the prize..  

It doesn't seems like a good idea but, the best idea because Bitcoin is literally the best crypto currency in the crypto market. It has always been the talk of the town ever since I first got into these crypto space, so I would rather stick to that asset that everyone is craving for than to throw my money into unknown coin that people barely talk about, because I barely see people talked about shitcoin if not Bitcoin and that is because it has showed a good sign which no coin in the market has ever show a good sign nor prove to people that they are valuable unless they get hyped and after hype must have taken place they will still return back to their entry price or they dip even more and that is final. I wouldn't want to waste a cent in those shitcoin which is why I have considered Bitcoin as my best choice of investment.
From what you just said in your post, i can tell you that you do not even know the purpose why Bitcoin was developed in the first place, and you are only investing in Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the talk of the town, and even if you had the opportunity to accumulate Bitcoin when the price was not worth up to $0.5, you would not buy Bitcoin because it was not the talk of the town then. I hope you are using discretionary income to accumulate Bitcoin, and you are not expecting to get rich soon with Bitcoin investment? Because your post just made me understand you know nothing about Bitcoin, and you are investing in Bitcoin just because people are investing in Bitcoin.

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