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December 13, 2025, 06:55:47 AM
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Bitcoin has loopholes?
Bitcoin is well protected with Sha- 256 algorithm, and I am not seeing any loopholes anytime soon. Humans are used to doing dumb shit like kepting their sedephrase on their mobile phone or computer, storing their Bitcoin on an exchange which can be hacked, and after this they will say that Bitcoin is the problematic thing, that's just bullshit if you ask me. If humans can desist from any sloppy behavior, and any poor security approach, then they wouldn't be assuming Bitcoin to have a loophole


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December 13, 2025, 07:49:34 AM
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Bitcoin has loopholes?
Bitcoin is well protected with Sha- 256 algorithm, and I am not seeing any loopholes anytime soon. Humans are used to doing dumb shit like kepting their sedephrase on their mobile phone or computer, storing their Bitcoin on an exchange which can be hacked, and after this they will say that Bitcoin is the problematic thing, that's just bullshit if you ask me. If humans can desist from any sloppy behavior, and any poor security approach, then they wouldn't be assuming Bitcoin to have a loophole

There is no proven “loophole” in the Bitcoin protocol so far. In reality, breaking SHA-256 requires infinite computing power, which is currently unrealistic. Thousands of attempts have been made to weaken or break Bitcoin, but none have succeeded in the end, but Bitcoin hacks, thefts from wallets, or losses from exchanges are caused by the ignorance, mismanagement, and third-party errors or mistakes of users. Those who suffer from insecurity with Bitcoin are harmed by their own mistakes or ignorance, not by the problems with Bitcoin or the weaknesses of its system. There are some people who blame BTC to call out their own weaknesses.
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December 13, 2025, 07:57:51 AM
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Well, as I was going through my X earlier then I stumbled at this page. If you take a good look at the picture you would see that it was posted earlier before now but I'm just coming across it today, though i don't really know what could be his mission. I'm not entirely sure if what he's saying here is actually coming from the source he claims such information is coming from, i just felt that he's actually making a sense at the same time considering him as one of those folks that doesn't want Bitcoin to be in existence because with the way he was expressing himself he's likely to be making exaggeration because God review things to people in a way that you won't be making guesting work for example he said that I'm bringing a new way_not Bitcoin or whatever they call it this sounds weird to me. Though I'm not disputing on that but I made a plan which I'm going to execute it and that is achieving my investment goal or the status of overaccumulation no matter the challenges.
I honestly wouldn't lose sleep over this because I am holding Bitcoin today, not just for 2026, but for more years ahead from now, so if 2026 may be a year of the dip, it would be an opportunity to buy more and add to my stash.
I am a Christian, but I understand the rules of the kingdom that faith without works is dead, for you to build a generational wealth or for you to be wealthy, it takes years of hard work, not something that happens overnight, so losing sleep over this is what I wouldn't do since Bitcoin has proven beyond reasonable doubt that it's the best investment right now that you can ever invest in, even though nothing is guaranteed.

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December 13, 2025, 08:43:28 AM
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There is nothing that comes with a 100% guarantee in investing bitcoin when it comes to investment, but what really matters bitcoin is volatile it's confidence that gives long term holders, it is not about expecting quick profits it's about knowing the rules well enough to remain consistency and calm through the volatility, a lot of people don't invest bitcoin because they are only for short term and also look a long term as a good alternative but they invest because history has shown that is patience usually pays off bitcoin has a very good track record that lets people level headed during the rough dips.
There is no 100% guarantee in any investment. Bitcoin's volatility is not a problem. This is a feature of Bitcoin. This problem occurs when the investor does not have the financial and mental structure. And if someone else invests in Bitcoin and loses, he will lose a maximum of 100%, but the possibility of profit here is several times higher. As is the case with any other investment, it is less. Even if you analyze past statistics, it is clear that if you invest for a long time, the possibility of profit is higher. That is why the most important thing is the patience of an investor, the right mentality, income flow and fund management.
Nothing ever comes with 100% certainty, similarly Bitcoin investment is not risk free and is not certain, there is definitely risk but when you hold on for the long term, your chances of success will be higher, you can make a profit despite the risk. Looking at history, it can be seen that those who invested patiently for a long time, had a higher chance of profit and are even still in a lot of profit. That is why the most important thing in investing is patience, the right mindset, and stability, these lead to positive possibilities.

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December 13, 2025, 09:49:55 AM
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Well, as I was going through my X earlier then I stumbled at this page. If you take a good look at the picture you would see that it was posted earlier before now but I'm just coming across it today, though i don't really know what could be his mission. I'm not entirely sure if what he's saying here is actually coming from the source he claims such information is coming from, i just felt that he's actually making a sense at the same time considering him as one of those folks that doesn't want Bitcoin to be in existence because with the way he was expressing himself he's likely to be making exaggeration because God review things to people in a way that you won't be making guesting work for example he said that I'm bringing a new way_not Bitcoin or whatever they call it this sounds weird to me. Though I'm not disputing on that but I made a plan which I'm going to execute it and that is achieving my investment goal or the status of overaccumulation no matter the challenges.
I honestly wouldn't lose sleep over this because I am holding Bitcoin today, not just for 2026, but for more years ahead from now, so if 2026 may be a year of the dip, it would be an opportunity to buy more and add to my stash.
I am a Christian, but I understand the rules of the kingdom that faith without works is dead, for you to build a generational wealth or for you to be wealthy, it takes years of hard work, not something that happens overnight, so losing sleep over this is what I wouldn't do since Bitcoin has proven beyond reasonable doubt that it's the best investment right now that you can ever invest in, even though nothing is guaranteed.

I believe that your strategy has a mature and long-term thinking. Social media is always full of commotion and this is mainly so when individuals embellish facts or even give vague information in order to elicit fear or attention. One should not waste sleep on everything that they say they are going to do. It is more important to have a clear plan and stay with your investment intentions despite the short-term market feelings. Long-term mentality in holding Bitcoin implies taking dips as normal occurrences in the process, rather than causes of panic. The richness, be it in terms of money or kinship is a product of patience, discipline and gradual work over time. Bitcoin is not an assurance, but its history pays off to those who remain focused and committed.

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December 13, 2025, 11:29:51 AM
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That is facts. It is funny how the people with the most income streams are sometimes the ones who hesitate the most when it comes to Bitcoin. They will  touch every physical business, land, shops, equipment,  but once you mention Bitcoin, they start giving one long list of excuses like the price is too high, it’s digital, it can disappear, all sorts of fears.

You can’t just focus everyone to invest in Bitcoin, you have to just let them be, by the way, it is not everyone that would invest in Bitcoin.

Not everyone will be interested in investing in bitcoin because they usually have reasons like the ones you mentioned. Looking at the current price of BTC, some people will definitely not want to buy it because they are afraid of getting stuck and losing the money they put into BTC. So, we should not force people to invest in BTC because investing in BTC is very risky. Investing in BTC is indeed very risky, but if we use money that we are prepared to lose to invest in BTC, then we will not be disappointed even if we suffer losses. That is why I am interested in investing in BTC, because I believe that as long as we use our discretionary income to buy BTC, then we will definitely do well, just like businesses in the real world will continue to run, and investing in BTC will certainly not hinder business in the real world. So, in my opinion, the most important thing right now is to focus on ourselves and keep the spirit of DCA alive. However, I believe that in the future, the number of people interested in investing in BTC will likely increase because many who once refused to invest in BTC are now doing so.
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December 13, 2025, 12:14:58 PM
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Bitcoin has loopholes?
Bitcoin is well protected with Sha- 256 algorithm, and I am not seeing any loopholes anytime soon. Humans are used to doing dumb shit like kepting their sedephrase on their mobile phone or computer, storing their Bitcoin on an exchange which can be hacked, and after this they will say that Bitcoin is the problematic thing, that's just bullshit if you ask me. If humans can desist from any sloppy behavior, and any poor security approach, then they wouldn't be assuming Bitcoin to have a loophole



I know that there's nothing created by humans that can be said to be 100% perfect and having clarified that argument I will say that Satoshi's creation being Bitcoin is a masterpiece, it must beat the imagination of most intellects and perfectionists. The loopholes as is clearly seen today are caused by human errors like involuntary donation of their Bitcoin to the community because they couldn't manage self custody or negligence that leads to theft of their Bitcoin. Bitcoin is decentralized and whatever any holder chooses to do with their privacy is up to them.

As an investor so far you're assured that your Bitcoin is safe in it's Blockchain I don't think there is any need to worry about loopholes, you should focus on buying and holding for a long term, atleast between 4 to 10 years and beyond.

 
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December 13, 2025, 12:52:36 PM
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Well, as I was going through my X earlier then I stumbled at this page. If you take a good look at the picture you would see that it was posted earlier before now but I'm just coming across it today, though i don't really know what could be his mission. I'm not entirely sure if what he's saying here is actually coming from the source he claims such information is coming from, i just felt that he's actually making a sense at the same time considering him as one of those folks that doesn't want Bitcoin to be in existence because with the way he was expressing himself he's likely to be making exaggeration because God review things to people in a way that you won't be making guesting work for example he said that I'm bringing a new way_not Bitcoin or whatever they call it this sounds weird to me. Though I'm not disputing on that but I made a plan which I'm going to execute it and that is achieving my investment goal or the status of overaccumulation no matter the challenges.
I honestly wouldn't lose sleep over this because I am holding Bitcoin today, not just for 2026, but for more years ahead from now, so if 2026 may be a year of the dip, it would be an opportunity to buy more and add to my stash.
I am a Christian, but I understand the rules of the kingdom that faith without works is dead, for you to build a generational wealth or for you to be wealthy, it takes years of hard work, not something that happens overnight, so losing sleep over this is what I wouldn't do since Bitcoin has proven beyond reasonable doubt that it's the best investment right now that you can ever invest in, even though nothing is guaranteed.

I believe that your strategy has a mature and long-term thinking. Social media is always full of commotion and this is mainly so when individuals embellish facts or even give vague information in order to elicit fear or attention. One should not waste sleep on everything that they say they are going to do. It is more important to have a clear plan and stay with your investment intentions despite the short-term market feelings. Long-term mentality in holding Bitcoin implies taking dips as normal occurrences in the process, rather than causes of panic. The richness, be it in terms of money or kinship is a product of patience, discipline and gradual work over time. Bitcoin is not an assurance, but its history pays off to those who remain focused and committed.

Bitcoin basically plays the most role with long-term holding, if a Bitcoin holder wants to hold his Bitcoin properly and his money will be deposited. Because Bitcoin is the only one most suitable for long-term investment, there is no reason for any investor to panic at this dumping moment of the current market because the current time is a good time to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, money should be created for buying Bitcoin using the DCA method, so that any investor can be successful at any time. Holding Bitcoin only according to the DCA method makes it much easier to keep it for a long time and the chances of being profitable increase a lot.

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December 13, 2025, 01:26:57 PM
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Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?
Well, that just shows that the market is unpredictable.

You can't time the market because it's very unpredictable. You might see it's price going up for a few hours then suddenly, it will go down. Just look at Bitcoin's price a few days ago when the Coinbase anomaly happened. It went down from I think around $68,000 to nearly $59,000 in just a span of a few minutes.

What's my take on what's happening right now? We're in a time where we need to wait for the market to correct before entering. We have been seeing the market going up for days already, and I don't see any reason for me to enter the market when the market is on the green. I mean we want to buy coins at a lower price, so it's better to just wait until the market corrects then that's the time for us to buy.

You're right that perfect timing is impossible and waiting for dips can be smarter than buying at the top. But in a bull market like Bitcoin's, sometimes the 'corrections' are minimal or over in hours. If you wait too long, you risk missing the move. Dollar-cost averaging—buying in small amounts on both the way up and down—is often less stressful than trying to catch the exact bottom. No one has a crystal ball, but patience and discipline are definitely key
Waiting for dip before buying bitcoin can never be smarter compared to buying bitcoin regularly through the DCA, considering that you have been registered today, and I don’t know if you have been buying bitcoin, but it seems like you have different preferences compared to what we’re talking about buying bitcoin consistently, have you been buying bitcoin already, because when you’re waiting for a dip it’s only shows that you’re ready to miss out on opportunities that comes with buying regular, my question would be what if what you’re waiting for never comes which is waiting to buy a dip, why don’t you appreciate having little knowledge about buying bitcoin.

Well I think if you’ve not been buying bitcoin you should start buying bitcoin immediately considering that you have a discretionary income.
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December 13, 2025, 02:36:51 PM
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Man, you're preaching to the choir with the long-term DCA mindset—it's the only way to stay sane in this market. All that noise and FUD on social media is just static. If you believe in Bitcoin's fundamentals, then dips are just fire sales, not doomsday. The key is exactly what you said: discipline, patience, and ignoring the daily drama. Just remember, even with DCA, only throw in what you can truly afford to forget about for years. It's not a guarantee, but it's the best shot for regular folks. Keep stacking.

I think it is precisely during a downturn like this that our mindset is truly tested. When we panic, there is usually only one option left, to sell at a loss. This mindset is more reflective of a trader who is trapped by their emotions than an investor.

Investors have a different approach. Price declines do not bother them too much because their focus is not on weekly or monthly movements but on the accumulation process over a long period of time, even years. They do not constantly stare at charts, because that only adds noise to their heads and of course mental pressure. Often they open the exchange just to buy, then send it to a non-custodial wallet and forget about it, and so on.

They believe in Bitcoin's fundamentals, and that belief is what keeps their minds at ease, as long as the funds used are discretionary funds, price drops are just a natural part of the cycle. Discipline in accumulating and patience are far more important than overreacting to FUD or short-term volatility that is happening now.

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December 13, 2025, 02:50:37 PM
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That is facts. It is funny how the people with the most income streams are sometimes the ones who hesitate the most when it comes to Bitcoin. They will  touch every physical business, land, shops, equipment,  but once you mention Bitcoin, they start giving one long list of excuses like the price is too high, it’s digital, it can disappear, all sorts of fears.

You can’t just focus everyone to invest in Bitcoin, you have to just let them be, by the way, it is not everyone that would invest in Bitcoin.

Not everyone will be interested in investing in bitcoin because they usually have reasons like the ones you mentioned. Looking at the current price of BTC, some people will definitely not want to buy it because they are afraid of getting stuck and losing the money they put into BTC. So, we should not force people to invest in BTC because investing in BTC is very risky. Investing in BTC is indeed very risky, but if we use money that we are prepared to lose to invest in BTC, then we will not be disappointed even if we suffer losses. That is why I am interested in investing in BTC, because I believe that as long as we use our discretionary income to buy BTC, then we will definitely do well, just like businesses in the real world will continue to run, and investing in BTC will certainly not hinder business in the real world. So, in my opinion, the most important thing right now is to focus on ourselves and keep the spirit of DCA alive. However, I believe that in the future, the number of people interested in investing in BTC will likely increase because many who once refused to invest in BTC are now doing so.
You seem to be a bit confusing or misleading  here, you can’t be describing bitcoin as VERY RISKY . Yes it’s a risky venture as with all investments but not too risky as to say very risky, what then will you say of Altcoins and Shitcoins.
The risk factor of bitcoin is also reduced when you invest for a long term plan and not chase short term gains, Using your  discretionary money.
You also don’t need to be interested in bitcoin because you’re willing to lose your money, that interest sounds more like gambling or trading.

 
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December 13, 2025, 03:17:30 PM
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You also don’t need to be interested in bitcoin because you’re willing to lose your money, that interest sounds more like gambling or trading.
I don't get you, how will you involve yourself in an investment that you don't have interest in. That's impossible, because you must have at least a very tiny interest maybe, after someone must have talked to you and cleared 10% of your doubt about that investment.

A new investor must have little interest in bitcoin before he can invest if not he wouldn't be serious about it and I don't see how 'intereste' pointed towards gambling or trading. When you have inteerest in something is when you will take your time to do it well by learning more on how it works.

If you talk about confidence in bitcoin, I can understand that and not interest. Anyone that doesn't have the interest in bitcoin wouldn't invest even if you force them and show them proves and reasons why they should invest.

 However, there are people that have interest to invest but lack the confidence in bitcoin such investors should start their investment with little amount of money like $10 and above while the learn about bitcoin at the same time to understand more about the market through and regular DCA, and that will increase their confidence. When they have gotten some confidence, they can increase their DCA amount.

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That is facts. It is funny how the people with the most income streams are sometimes the ones who hesitate the most when it comes to Bitcoin. They will  touch every physical business, land, shops, equipment,  but once you mention Bitcoin, they start giving one long list of excuses like the price is too high, it’s digital, it can disappear, all sorts of fears.

You can’t just focus everyone to invest in Bitcoin, you have to just let them be, by the way, it is not everyone that would invest in Bitcoin.

Not everyone will be interested in investing in bitcoin because they usually have reasons like the ones you mentioned. Looking at the current price of BTC, some people will definitely not want to buy it because they are afraid of getting stuck and losing the money they put into BTC. So, we should not force people to invest in BTC because investing in BTC is very risky. Investing in BTC is indeed very risky, but if we use money that we are prepared to lose to invest in BTC, then we will not be disappointed even if we suffer losses. That is why I am interested in investing in BTC, because I believe that as long as we use our discretionary income to buy BTC, then we will definitely do well, just like businesses in the real world will continue to run, and investing in BTC will certainly not hinder business in the real world. So, in my opinion, the most important thing right now is to focus on ourselves and keep the spirit of DCA alive. However, I believe that in the future, the number of people interested in investing in BTC will likely increase because many who once refused to invest in BTC are now doing so.


Yes, it is not everyone that will be interested in Bitcoin. But I believe that anyone who is not interested in Bitcoin is someone who has not heard about cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin. Because why would someone see what will benefit them and deny it, if not because they simply lack knowledge?When someone has knowledge of cryptocurrency, they will know that the risks in Bitcoin are not as high as some other investments. But note that it is because of the risks involved that we are advised to invest only our discretionary funds. Bitcoin is volatile in nature, and that is why the price of Bitcoin always goes up and down.

The main reason why someone will be disappointed after investing in Bitcoin is because they did not plan well for the investment. So, if anyone wants to invest in Bitcoin, they need to plan very well such as deciding how much money to invest and the right time to sell in order to take profits.Many people do not hold Bitcoin for the long term before thinking of selling, and that is not the best way to approach Bitcoin investment. Also, knowing the best way to accumulate Bitcoin, such as using the DCA method, is important.therefore, I would say that people who later suffer losses in their Bitcoin investment are those who do not take proper steps toward their investment.

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Bitcoin basically plays the most role with long-term holding, if a Bitcoin holder wants to hold his Bitcoin properly and his money will be deposited. Because Bitcoin is the only one most suitable for long-term investment, there is no reason for any investor to panic at this dumping moment of the current market because the current time is a good time to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, money should be created for buying Bitcoin using the DCA method, so that any investor can be successful at any time. Holding Bitcoin only according to the DCA method makes it much easier to keep it for a long time and the chances of being profitable increase a lot.


DCA Strategy makes bitcoin accumulation easier especially for beginners or newbies. It isn't just Long term investors that uses DCA, even Short term investors also makes use of it to buy Bitcoin for a short term. Short term investors can adopt the use of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin and later endup selling it for quick profits . DCA doesn't guarantee success of Hodling Bitcoin for the long term instead, success of Hodl depends on the individuals mindset and not the strategy. Example, an individual can set two & half year time-frames to accumulate Bitcoin, within this specific period of time,he consistently buy bitcoin using DCA. Once the timeframe is complete, he then sells for profit. My points is, to Hodl successfully for the long term has nothing to do with Strategy but individual mindset and their level of discipline.


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Bitcoin has loopholes?
Bitcoin is well protected with Sha- 256 algorithm, and I am not seeing any loopholes anytime soon. Humans are used to doing dumb shit like kepting their sedephrase on their mobile phone or computer, storing their Bitcoin on an exchange which can be hacked, and after this they will say that Bitcoin is the problematic thing, that's just bullshit if you ask me. If humans can desist from any sloppy behavior, and any poor security approach, then they wouldn't be assuming Bitcoin to have a loophole
The last time I read arguments about supposed loopholes in Bitcoin was during those times of those shitcoins like BCH and Bitcoin-SV. Those theories of loopholes were pushed people who want to create those shitcoins and called them fork of Bitcoin. Today it is now clear that the problems they wanted to solve only existed in their head as Bitcoin have remained strong, gaining more acceptance and adoption whereas their shitcoins have continued to lose trust and interest of people who know better.

Anyone still doubting Bitcoin at this time is definitely not being fair to himself because even the MSM that were vocal in propagating FUD have a lot of nice things to say about Bitcoin seeing that many countries are contemplating Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. It is a good move to buy and hold Bitcoin because the future is very bright.











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December 13, 2025, 04:24:47 PM
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Bitcoin basically plays the most role with long-term holding, if a Bitcoin holder wants to hold his Bitcoin properly and his money will be deposited. Because Bitcoin is the only one most suitable for long-term investment, there is no reason for any investor to panic at this dumping moment of the current market because the current time is a good time to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, money should be created for buying Bitcoin using the DCA method, so that any investor can be successful at any time. Holding Bitcoin only according to the DCA method makes it much easier to keep it for a long time and the chances of being profitable increase a lot.


DCA Strategy makes bitcoin accumulation easier especially for beginners or newbies. It isn't just Long term investors that uses DCA, even Short term investors also makes use of it to buy Bitcoin for a short term. Short term investors can adopt the use of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin and later endup selling it for quick profits . DCA doesn't guarantee success of Hodling Bitcoin for the long term instead, success of Hodl depends on the individuals mindset and not the strategy. Example, an individual can set two & half year time-frames to accumulate Bitcoin, within this specific period of time,he consistently buy bitcoin using DCA. Once the timeframe is complete, he then sells for profit. My points is, to Hodl successfully for the long term has nothing to do with Strategy but individual mindset and their level of discipline.


DCA strategy is only suitable for long-term investors, and a long-term investment horizon is at least 4 years and above, if it is less than 4 years, it is short-term investment or trading, and DCA is never suitable for trading. DCA should only be used by long-term investors, short-term investors will never get proper results from DCA strategy. So first you need to understand what is the essence of a strategy and how to use it properly. After understanding it practically, if you can manage it properly, then only you should start investing using DCA strategy, not trading.











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Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?
Well, that just shows that the market is unpredictable.

You can't time the market because it's very unpredictable. You might see it's price going up for a few hours then suddenly, it will go down. Just look at Bitcoin's price a few days ago when the Coinbase anomaly happened. It went down from I think around $68,000 to nearly $59,000 in just a span of a few minutes.

What's my take on what's happening right now? We're in a time where we need to wait for the market to correct before entering. We have been seeing the market going up for days already, and I don't see any reason for me to enter the market when the market is on the green. I mean we want to buy coins at a lower price, so it's better to just wait until the market corrects then that's the time for us to buy.

You're right that perfect timing is impossible and waiting for dips can be smarter than buying at the top. But in a bull market like Bitcoin's, sometimes the 'corrections' are minimal or over in hours. If you wait too long, you risk missing the move. Dollar-cost averaging—buying in small amounts on both the way up and down—is often less stressful than trying to catch the exact bottom. No one has a crystal ball, but patience and discipline are definitely key
Waiting for dip before buying bitcoin can never be smarter compared to buying bitcoin regularly through the DCA, considering that you have been registered today, and I don’t know if you have been buying bitcoin, but it seems like you have different preferences compared to what we’re talking about buying bitcoin consistently, have you been buying bitcoin already, because when you’re waiting for a dip it’s only shows that you’re ready to miss out on opportunities that comes with buying regular, my question would be what if what you’re waiting for never comes which is waiting to buy a dip, why don’t you appreciate having little knowledge about buying bitcoin.

Well I think if you’ve not been buying bitcoin you should start buying bitcoin immediately considering that you have a discretionary income.
well there is a way in which this is possible, an investor can be doing DCA and still be timing the market and setting aside some part of his discretionary income for buying the dips. It is only when a no coiner , decide to wait for bitcoin to dip before they will start buying ,even when they have discretionary this when it should be consider problematic . Waiting for the dip is a bad idea for a no coiner .

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The best that you can do is to guarantee the various aspects of your own inputs, and even some of your own execution risk might be beyond your control and/or expectations.
What I have understood in these few days is that when it comes to Bitcoin investment, don't think about what will happen in the future. And don't make any decisions based on that. In fact, we can't control the future price of Bitcoin, the government's decision, the environment of the Bitcoin marker, anything. But even after that, most people focus more on such uncontrollable things. You might be saying that success doesn't actually depend on thinking about or trying to know what will happen in the future. It depends on how much control you can have over your investment behavior. We should focus on how much I am earning, how much I am investing, how much I am spending, how much of my spending is actually necessary and how much I have built up as a backup fund. Many times, people keep everything going smoothly for years, but after that, suddenly, various kinds of problems can arise. It is impossible to completely eliminate such risks because they can happen in a person's life. That is why it is necessary to arrange an investment plan in such a way that the investment portfolio never breaks down.

We can also look at various debasements of fiat and say those behaviors are hard to stop, and so those behaviors cause upwards pressures on bitcoin's price, and bitcoin is scarce (even though its scarcity is manipulated too).  You can bet on probabilities, yet the outcome is not guaranteed there are too many unknowns, even if a lot of the knowns are pointing towards ongoing upward pressures on bitcoin's price

I saw in a statistic that the inflation of the dollar has been increasing for a long time. Below I have given a chart of Buying power of dollar. Just as the valuation of the dollar has gone down, the price of Bitcoin has gone up hundreds of times in the last 15 years. The government keeps on increasing the supply of fiat as per its own needs, that is why the valuation keeps on decreasing, but the supply of Bitcoin automatically decreases, that is why its valuation will increase, that is why its probability is high. After that, the difference between probability and guarantee is important in the case of investment. Because many people think that the weakness of fiat is directly the positive side of Bitcoin, if they invest thinking of guarantee and ignore risk management, then there is a possibility of big losses.
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You can guarantee that you are going to put anywhere between 10% to 25% of your income into bitcoin as your income comes in, and you can work your ass off to make sure that your income keeps coming in, and even that your income is high enough to cover your expenses, and those are execution risks.  There are also execution risks in the ways that you secure your  coins and make sure that you have ways to cash out your coins in case all of the exchanges get shut down... yet of course, they are not going to get shut down, right?  right?  That would be dumb, since bitcoin is not jurisdiction specific, so you might have to scramble to figure out other ways to use your bitcoin, and to find some peers, yet maybe the peers are scared to use bitcoin?  Surely, you have some brave peers, no?  And, your peers should be demanding to interact with you using bitcoin, right?
The investment of 10% to 25% of income is realistic. The point is that in reality, the amount of discretionary income will be such and accordingly, the amount of income will be 10% to 25% of the total income . And if we keep this kind of mentality fixed in advance, it may be easier to make decisions and emotions will work less while investing. And the variation of 10% to 25% of income may be kept because sometimes the income flow may not be regular, in which case the investment will be more or less.

And I have very little idea about the Bitcoin wallet you mentioned. However, I myself bought Bitcoin for only $60 this month  one time and transferred it from the exchange to the wallet by watching a YouTube video tutorial . The first time I had some problems with this, but I was able to do it. Because I think I saw a post on the forum before that Bitcoin should be kept in a wallet not in exchanger .  


O.k. maybe we can say bitcoin is more guaranteed in the next year or two.. and surely if things keep going well, or if things go better than expected then we are going to continue to have avenues to transact with our bitcoin, right?  The further out, then the more avenues, right?  Also the further out, the more attacks that could take place upon bitcoin, and yeah, maybe bitcoin has decently good odds of surviving the various attacks and developers will be left alone, miners will be able to mine, node runners can run their nodes, and our wallet software won't have to be pirated.

I myself understand that Bitcoin has become much stronger than before. It could be hundreds or thousands of times. I don't know what this is based on, but what I understand is that at one time there was a lot of negative propaganda about Bitcoin, even the government of the country called it a scam and dead in the past, but now when different countries have started holding Bitcoin, I think Bitcoin has reached a unique height. Similarly, what was a technological problem before is now coming as a new problem and risk from a political, social, or regulatory perspective. I have no idea what will happen in the future. I just want to stay on top of the basic principles and fundamentals and invest regularly.

I have troubles with ideas of things in the future being guaranteed, even if the momentum is in our favor and even if we consider various logical outcomes, yet does logic always prevail in the world?  We going to put everything into bitcoin or are we going to have some hedges?  If we hedge our bitcoin, then what kinds of hedges are we going to make and which things are safe as hedges.
I think your statement is the most realistic and honest . logic does not always work in the world with information or data. Many times, many things happen in our lives that can never be logically compared to anything. whether someone invests in Bitcoin depends on their income or not, it is their personal choice. However, in terms of investment, hedging means that Bitcoin is less important, which I do not see in my way. In order to survive in the world, we have to abide by the prevailing rules here, so I do not think it is bad to save some of our wealth in gold land or direct fiat. Because only if we survive, there will be an opportunity to hold or invest in Bitcoin.

Remember during covid, certain folks were feeling rich, yet various supply chains were being shut off, and it did not take very long before everyone was running out of certain kinds of supplies.  Sure there are places in the world where supply chains were affected in different ways, yet even if we have money we might not be able to get certain things.  That was also true with being able to go places, many normal folks were not able to go places, yet private aircraft were still allowed to fly.  Do we have a private aircraft or access to such private aircraft?  I am not saying that I know the answers, even though i am saying that there can be decently extensive irrational periods of time and even problems that are caused to us and outside of our control, and the problems do not seem to be based on logic or justice or what is right or should be right.

The lessons that people learned from COVID are never forgettable . Because at that time it was a real test for the whole world. At that time, many people had a lot of wealth, money, assets, but the situation made people completely helpless. Food, medicine, and daily necessities could not be obtained despite having money. The idea that having money means that everything is possible is wrong. At that time, it was seen that money had no value in some cases. I myself was trying to buy a mask and offered a price almost 50 times higher than the normal price, but that mask did not sell to me because the shopkeeper himself kept them for his own and family's use because the supply had stopped. This is where the big lesson comes in terms of investment and wealth management. Bitcoin or any other asset can protect us from the weakness of our financial system, but not from all types of crises.


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December 13, 2025, 05:03:01 PM
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well there is a way in which this is possible, an investor can be doing DCA and still be timing the market and setting aside some part of his discretionary income for buying the dips. It is only when a no coiner , decide to wait for bitcoin to dip before they will start buying ,even when they have discretionary this when it should be consider problematic . Waiting for the dip is a bad idea for a no coiner .

That's why we need to differentiate between experienced investors and those who are still very new to investing. For novice investors, they only need to know the methods and methods they can use when they want to start investing, not when they're waiting for a price drop, which is like waiting for something that's uncertain to happen in the near future. Meanwhile, investors who manage their own investments, meaning they've been buying Bitcoin for several months or years, can immediately take advantage of the price drop as a discount, allowing them to frequently buy Bitcoin without waiting for a price drop. However, when the price drops, they're also much more enthusiastic about buying without panicking due to the declining price.

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Bitcoin basically plays the most role with long-term holding, if a Bitcoin holder wants to hold his Bitcoin properly and his money will be deposited. Because Bitcoin is the only one most suitable for long-term investment, there is no reason for any investor to panic at this dumping moment of the current market because the current time is a good time to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, money should be created for buying Bitcoin using the DCA method, so that any investor can be successful at any time. Holding Bitcoin only according to the DCA method makes it much easier to keep it for a long time and the chances of being profitable increase a lot.


DCA Strategy makes bitcoin accumulation easier especially for beginners or newbies. It isn't just Long term investors that uses DCA, even Short term investors also makes use of it to buy Bitcoin for a short term. Short term investors can adopt the use of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin and later endup selling it for quick profits . DCA doesn't guarantee success of Hodling Bitcoin for the long term instead, success of Hodl depends on the individuals mindset and not the strategy. Example, an individual can set two & half year time-frames to accumulate Bitcoin, within this specific period of time,he consistently buy bitcoin using DCA. Once the timeframe is complete, he then sells for profit. My points is, to Hodl successfully for the long term has nothing to do with Strategy but individual mindset and their level of discipline.


DCA is a tool that can be used to build up an investment, not a guarantee of long-term investment or return on equity. Investors who take a short-term view can equally effectively apply DCA as investors who take a long-term view, but in both cases, this will depend on their intention and their ability to adhere to their plans. As an example, an investor might clearly define a specific timeframe for accumulating their holdings through DCA and stick to his plan and sell at that point when they have achieved their target. However, another investor could also set out a similar plan for using DCA to accumulate an investment and sell prematurely due to panic. You are correct that HODLing is not about the strategy of accumulating; it's all about having the right mindset, controlling your emotions and having the discipline to continue with the model you have set up regardless of what the market is doing.
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