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December 20, 2025, 09:09:12 PM
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Any person can invest in Bitcoin, what they need is just basic knowledge which is difficult to gain, the problem most people have in Bitcoin investment is that, they want to learn everything from the first day, Bitcoin investment requires just the basic knowledge to invest and other things can be learned when the person is fully into the investment.


Basic knowledge might even be too ambiguous. To make it more simple and easier, what a potential investor really needs to get started with his investment is just his basic ability to figure out his discretionary income, and yea, with that, he can actually begin his investment right away, nothing stopping him. While he has started his investment, he can learn better ways to go about his investment.

He might also want to start with a low amount of buying bitcoin since he is only new and still trying to strike a balance with his investment and his income management and allocation, and with time, the investor can balance his income flow and his investment in the best way that suits him and allows as easy going investment journey since he is out for a long term investment plan, and offcourse, the DCA investment strategy gives you the opportunity to increase your weekly or monthly investment amount at anytime.

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There is no need to postpone investment due to lack of experience. Many people are hesitant when it comes to making additional preparations. Also, opportunities can be missed due to not starting to invest. It is not right to enter into investment without absolutely zero knowledge or planning because this can lead to a person getting confused in the market fluctuations. It is not right to delay for experience, nor is it right to enter into investment with absolutely zero hands. Therefore, a balanced plan is needed before investing that will not panic you after investing.

If you feel that there's no need of postponing investment due to lack of experience then are you suggesting they should move on with it even when they have zero knowledge of what they are doing? You know human beings make this mistake of diving into something they know nothing about more especially when they see their mate doing it just to feel among but the moment they realize that they are not getting it right of course they have every right to pause their investment untill they gain experience rather than to keep investing, it is better they look for a way to gain experience in the early stage than doing it when they must have gone far because they are likely to Loss everything in the middle if they are still lacking experience.
Jumping into something with zero knowledge just because others are doing it is a common mistake, and that is how people mess up them self...  But still what I am saying is more about balance. Waiting until you feel fully experienced can also keep people stuck forever.  Experience does not only come from studying, it also comes from doing, but on a small and safe level first, before you gradually get a full picture..

If someone truly does not understand what they are doing, it makes sense to slow down or even pause and learn. That is a bit of maturity to me..  But instead of stopping completely, they can still participate with very small amounts while learning, so mistakes become lessons, not disasters…

indeed , i agree with you experience comes with time but preparation should come first striking a good balance between learning and action is what helps investors avoid panic and make better long term decisions. investors don't have to know everything to start but you should know enough not to react. A small planning and understanding can go a long way in making  smarter investment choices.
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indeed , i agree with you experience comes with time but preparation should come first striking a good balance between learning and action is what helps investors avoid panic and make better long term decisions. investors don't have to know everything to start but you should know enough not to react. A small planning and understanding can go a long way in making  smarter investment choices.
While an investor doesn't need to know everything to start investing in Bitcoin, every investor will be better off if they know everything and become more savvy than the average Bitcoin trader. Knowledge and experience never diminish when someone has more knowledge, because generally, people who are quite knowledgeable about certain things won't panic easily when faced with a price drop or something similar. And besides being less prone to panic, it will also be easier to develop a long-term investment plan that will keep them moving forward in buying Bitcoin and also continue to work towards increasing their income so they can buy more Bitcoin.

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December 21, 2025, 05:14:05 AM
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Agreed, Investing in Bitcoin does not require extensive experience or expertise, a good way to start is by trying to invest small amounts while increasing your knowledge and experience. Using discretionary funds is also a good idea because they do not feel pressured to invest too much, this also has to do with the frequency of investment that is in accordance with the cash flow that is ready to be invested. When someone decides to start investing in small amounts and consistently accumulates the amount periodically, this method can indirectly build good investment habits and better understand how Bitcoin works.
Starting small is a good idea, in my opinion. Investing in BTC requires waiting until you become an expert in terms of knowledge and so on. I think we'll be left behind by others, for example, if others have already bought BTC while we haven't. So, over time, we'll gradually understand more about BTC and how it feels to have even a small amount. In my experience, investing in BTC is easy because you just buy it on the market using money you can afford to lose and immediately put it in your wallet. What causes people to fail in investing in BTC is usually because they don't realize how risky it is and buy it with money they can't afford to lose. But over time, you'll understand, because sometimes we learn from experience. And yes, if you start investing with a small amount of money, it will certainly make someone less panicked and will certainly gain valuable experience. For example, if you make a mistake, you will certainly not make the same mistake again in the future.

Another BIG mistake is selling too much too soon, especially in the context of being "in profits," so many times guys have difficulties to continue to hold and probably continuing to buy bitcoin when their holdings are in profits.. .when they should ongoingly continue to stack for probably more than a whole cycle or maybe even more than 2 cycles, yet they end up devolving into a kind of trading mentality even if their intention might have had been to invest.. and so yeah.. investing too much in the beginning (as you mentioned) and also not really pacing themselves for the long haul.. which is probably way closer to 10 years or more rather than anywhere in the range of 4 years or even less than 10 years..

But guys are going to do what they are going to do and even end up putting themselves into a wrong kinds of mindset since at some point they stop with their ongoing and continuous accumulation of dee cornz.

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I love how you connect consistency (weekly buys) with continuous learning. In my experience and observation with having to stick with Bitcoin for the long term, those who started their investment with full confidence are mostly the ones who tend to last longer in the long run, because no matter what turn the market decides to take, they’ll always keep showing up.

Frequently guys are going to have to try to pace themselves too, even if they might have started out buying a lot, they might have to continue to buy, but to reduce their buy amounts so that they are not getting too emotionally attached in regards to whether their bitcoin is short-term in profits or not.

At first what mostly brings people to bitcoin is curiosity, but the moment real money gets involved, even if it’s just small amount, then that curiosity automatically turns responsibility. People tend to read more, revisit certain assumptions , question certain narratives, and then gradually there’s a shift in their mindset from if it is actually risky to what would really happen if they happen to stop.

Of course no one wants to lose money.. so they will start to get nervous and even suffer from loss aversion,... yet if they can convince themselves that they are investing 10 years or more, then they might get themselves to become less emotionally attached to how their holdings happens to be performing during shorter timelines.

There surely are difficulties for guys to commit to 10 years or longer, even when they might say they are "in it for the long term," they still have some difficulties with the idea of locking up value for so many years (10 years or longer). .. yet it probably would be for their own good to get into some kind of a mindset that the investment is long term, and if they cannot emotionally deal with the fact that they are locking up their money for that long, then maybe they should reduce their weekly investment amount so that they are investing with money that they are not so emotionally attached to.

Yes, I understand people need to have fun too.. so they have to keep some money for themselves to have some fun, from time to time, even if they might be also attempting to somewhat aggressively invest into bitcoin... They can maybe save up to buy something for themselves (such as a phone or a motorcycle or a vacation or some other thing that they would like to have) even while they continue to ongoingly and persistently invest in bitcoin.

When I started my accumulation, I started with an amount that was far less than $100 a week. Although at first, I didn’t have financial independence or replacing my income as the core goal of my accumulation. But overtime, income grew and increased slightly, but more importantly, my spending awareness improved. There were no dramatic changes, but I discovered that unnecessary assumptions became pretty obvious. What really surprised me in the process wasn’t actually how much Bitcoin I had accumulated overtime, No. it was rather how the discipline and consistency itself managed to reshape my financial behavior. At that point, I didn’t only see Bitcoin as just an asset but more of a measuring stick fo intr opportunity cost.

What seems to happen is that guys who used to believe that they did not have any money for investing, they start to rethink their income and their spending and all of a sudden they become ready, willing and able to dedicate more money towards investing into bitcoin than they thought was even possible.. so in some sense the realm of possibilities change merely from ongoingly and weekly reinforcing the conduct of ongoingly buying bitcoin (such as weekly).

I also agree with your points about discretionary income. Technically, a lot of folks have it but it’s always been invisible because they had already pre spent it in their minds. The moment that folks learn to reframe their money into the three choices that you aforementioned, which are consume, save and invest, then it becomes more difficult to justify leaking value without an actual intention. That mindset shift becomes very significant, regardless of the investment amount, whether it’s small or not. Small investments has the potential to grow slowly, but clarity compounds.

There is value in recognizing that "I can do whatever I want with this money that I have that is in the category of discretionary money" yet at the same time recognizing that whatever is chosen is still going to fit within one or more of the three categories, so if the categories are considered in advance.. a guy can enforce rules on himself and he can also liberate himself from those rules whenever he likes.. yet at the same time realizing whether he imposes structure on himself or not, he is choosing to do so and there are consequences to his choices whether to have structure or not.

Yeah, sure, sometimes there might be needs that every once in a while a guy is going to purposefully take $100 or $200 or even $1k and blow it on something that he did not plan.. yet at the same time, he would be carrying out his spontaneity within a kind of structure that he imposed upon himself, so he becomes liberated by his own imposition of a structure, since he knows that he can make adjustments to his structure at any time, if he chooses to do so.

Oh, and by the way, less than $100 per week into bitcoin could later end up growing into $100 or more per week and also have a bit of a good feeling that the increasing of the amount ended up being a kinds of self-created accomplishment.

I also have reasons to believe that your emphasis on adjusting accumulation based on income and capacity rather than price is often underrated by many. Investors are more interested in buying more when the price drops, but the truth remains that their buying power is mostly determined by their earnings and not the charts or the position of the market. Folks tend to be more calmer during volatility when they anchor their strategy to income because their strategy and plan is rooted in something that they have control over.

Another thing is that in the long run (such as over 10 years or more), it is not going to make too many differences if some of the weekly $100 purchases of BTC were bought at $80k, $90k or $110k, and if a person creates strong practices around his own income and expenses, then he will likely end up buying more bitcoin in the long run based on his own abilities to focus on his staying organized within his managing of his cashflows and his not putting himself into positions of having to scramble and even perhaps sometimes making mistakes because he was busy moving money around rather than staying focused on other things that are also likely important that are going on in his life.

Lastly, it’s very true that not everyone can reach the same level of conviction but that’s very okay. Price appreciation doesn’t just make all the doubts disappear, what really makes fear disappear and builds true conviction is understanding and lived experience. While others continue to double down because bitcoin agrees and aligns with their values, time horizon and expectations, there are others who step away because it doesn’t align with the patience and priorities.

Bitcoin might not really click in the beginning, and so maybe based on the lack of clicking, the guy purposefully chooses to invest $30 per week, even though he knows that he is completely capable of investing $100 per week, but then perhaps after he continues to buy and maybe he spends 1-2 hours each week reading information related to bitcoin, and then perhaps at some point, he realizes that he needs to look into some part of bitcoin that confuses himself, and then perhaps after he looks further into bitcoin, it might later start to click.

Other guys, it might not click, and they might step away from bitcoin for several years and then come back to bitcoin at a later point, because they realize that their earlier thoughts were not correct and they had to revisit some aspects of bitcoin in order to start to feel that it was starting to click with them and their ways of looking at money and or how bitcoin related to various shitcoins.  Our own experiences and background training might affect how we see aspects of the world, and the rate at which bitcoin clicks from one person to another is likely to differ.

We don't need to be experienced or savy to invest into bitcoin, and hopefully we get started with small amounts and build up our experiences, and we have enough common sense to not invest too much as we are getting used to buying bitcoin from our discretionary funds, whether we  do it on a weekly basis or if we choose some other frequency (based on our cashflow circumstances).
You’re spot on and you’re very correct with your statement, We don’t need to have any experience before we can invest into bitcoin, Literally when I started investing in bitcoin I didn’t require any experience to start investing in bitcoin, little details and information, like basic knowledge was enough for me to start buying bitcoin, but what matters the most is just trying to stay consistent in buying bitcoin when we have started, and what we could actually sustain the investment then we can consider on weekly basis or monthly basis depending on when we have a discretionary income available.  
Yes you guys are right, if you want to accumulate bitcoin and then hold for long team you really don't need any experience, as a long term bitcoin investor, what do you really need experience for? absolutely nothing, the only people that needs experience is traders because they need to know when to buy and when to sell and having experience will go a long way to succeed as a trader but long term investors has no business with experience. I always tell people the only thing a long term investor who is just coming into the system newly should only know is how to accumulate and how to secure there wallet that's all, long team investors has the most easiest job, you don't need to stress your brain thinking about the market your duty is just to Buy Buy Buy and Buy, just continuing the process for a very Long term.

You seem to be making a mockery out of the idea of experience, and the fact of the matter, each of us comes to bitcoin from whatever experience level and/or knowledge level that we have, and we work our investment from there.. so long as we have some discretionary funds and common sense, we can work with what we have in order to get started investing in bitcoin and build our bitcoin investment up as we go... and as we become more comfortable in the strength of our cashflows, then we likely can figure out to invest higher levels of our discretionary funds into bitcoin as we are also learning about aspects of ourselves and aspects of bitcoin, too within where we are at in terms of understanding our individual factors.

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Experience will be gained when you actually start with real action. Over time, you'll learn invaluable lessons from every step you take. This can help build a real understanding of market dynamics, which can't be fully learned from theory alone. Often, those who fail in investing aren't equipped with sufficient knowledge. This leads to significant fear of a sharp market decline, leading them to engage in activities they shouldn't. Of course, before beginning this step, you should be well-informed about basic investment knowledge and the risks you'll face, as the crypto market is constantly fluctuating.

Hopefully we are not fucking around with shitcoins and we are able to stay focused on bitcoin.

Another thing is that we gain experience and knowledge by action and getting started, so as you seemed to have had been suggesting in part of your post, we do not need to build up our theories prior to getting started and acting, since our actions will make more sense within a context of doing them rather than theorizing about them.

Learn as we go, even if we are merely starting out investing $10 into bitcoin and then figuring out if we are going to invest another $10 the next week, and then pretty soon we are investing $10 per week into bitcoin while we continue to study it... and focus on bitcoin first, while not getting distracted by either trading or shitcoins.

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I think I agree with you. No one knows it all. As soon as you've learnt the essentials, start. When you start, you will learn more from the mistakes you make while taking actions. Waiting until you know it all, you might wait for ever.

I think people should understand there's no perfection anywhere, and crypto market is not exempted from that too.

In as much as we can't undermine the power in the knowledge we garner before entering into the market, we should as have in mind that will learn more when we start.

We are not talking about crypto here.  Fuck crypto.

We are talking about bitcoin.  Do you know the word bitcoin? If so, then why are you talking about shitcoins when this is a bitcoin thread?

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December 21, 2025, 05:56:04 AM
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We don't need to be experienced or savy to invest into bitcoin, and hopefully we get started with small amounts and build up our experiences, and we have enough common sense to not invest too much as we are getting used to buying bitcoin from our discretionary funds, whether we  do it on a weekly basis or if we choose some other frequency (based on our cashflow circumstances).
You’re spot on and you’re very correct with your statement, We don’t need to have any experience before we can invest into bitcoin, Literally when I started investing in bitcoin I didn’t require any experience to start investing in bitcoin, little details and information, like basic knowledge was enough for me to start buying bitcoin, but what matters the most is just trying to stay consistent in buying bitcoin when we have started, and what we could actually sustain the investment then we can consider on weekly basis or monthly basis depending on when we have a discretionary income available.  
Yes you guys are right, if you want to accumulate bitcoin and then hold for long team you really don't need any experience, as a long term bitcoin investor, what do you really need experience for? absolutely nothing, the only people that needs experience is traders because they need to know when to buy and when to sell and having experience will go a long way to succeed as a trader but long term investors has no business with experience. I always tell people the only thing a long term investor who is just coming into the system newly should only know is how to accumulate and how to secure there wallet that's all, long team investors has the most easiest job, you don't need to stress your brain thinking about the market your duty is just to Buy Buy Buy and Buy, just continuing the process for a very Long term.

You seem to be making a mockery out of the idea of experience, and the fact of the matter, each of us comes to bitcoin from whatever experience level and/or knowledge level that we have, and we work our investment from there.. so long as we have some discretionary funds and common sense, we can work with what we have in order to get started investing in bitcoin and build our bitcoin investment up as we go... and as we become more comfortable in the strength of our cashflows, then we likely can figure out to invest higher levels of our discretionary funds into bitcoin as we are also learning about aspects of ourselves and aspects of bitcoin, too within where we are at in terms of understanding our individual factors.

JayJuanGee I'm not making a mockery out of the idea of experience, if a newbie with zero experience comes to me and say he or she wants to start bitcoin investment, i help him or her so they can set up there wallet and then start accumulating they don't need experience before they can start accumulating remember one can only get experience when he or she has been into bitcoin investment for some time and as a newbie with zero experience you can start bitcoin investment and as time goes on you will gain experience.
But again as an investor who is accumulating for long team the experience you may have will only be for accumulation strategy you have not business with studying the market that's for traders.

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December 21, 2025, 06:18:02 AM
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if you want to accumulate bitcoin and then hold for long team you really don't need any experience, as a long term bitcoin investor, what do you really need experience for? absolutely nothing, the only people that needs experience is traders because they need to know when to buy and when to sell and having experience will go a long way to succeed as a trader but long term investors has no business with experience. I always tell people the only thing a long term investor who is just coming into the system newly should only know is how to accumulate and how to secure there wallet that's all, long team investors has the most easiest job, you don't need to stress your brain thinking about the market your duty is just to Buy Buy Buy and Buy, just continuing the process for a very Long term.

Even though I may understand your point, that newbies don't need experience to get started, but you sound like investors don't need experience at all in there investment journey, but offcourse, we cannot under play the role of experience in whatever we are doing.
Surely, newbies may not necessarily need experience and/or studying the market before starting there investments, but there ability to figure out what there discretionary income is, so they can begin, and once they begin, they can learn a whole lot of things which brings the much experience needed along the line. While they begin, they can understand and make better decisions in there income management and allocation to ensure a smooth investment journey.

The point is, striking all these balance and taking a right position with your investment and cash flow management needs a level of experience, and the investor gets all these while he is ongoingly keeping up with his investment week in, week out. So sure, they don't need experience to start, but they need some level of experience and/or understanding to find better ways to remain consistent and remain in there investment in other to meet up there accumulation target and/or long term HODL investment plan

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December 21, 2025, 06:39:00 AM
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The skills that are needed to invest in bitcoin are basic.. which is being able to figure out whether or not you have discretionary funds and also common sense so that you do not do dumb shit.  Almost everyone either has the basic necessary skills even though it may well take several years to put the skills together and good at investing into bitcoin and managing cashflows. 

Accordingly, it is good to get started as soon as possible for anyone who can at least determine that he has discretionary funds and he can figure out and hone the various skills and learn whatever else that he needs to learn as he goes.

Regarding risk most normal people with common sense do not invest in order to lose money, so common sense would dictate to start investing with amounts that are deemed reasonable, and to increase the amounts invested as the comfort level increases...

Of course in the very beginning a person might not realize his investment timeline to be 4-10 years or longer, so he might have to learn that he is an investor rather than a trader, and so in bitcoin there are likely a lot of uncertainties to try to invest in less than 4 years , so less than 4 years would be trading rather than investing.

Well said and I agree with you, it’s better  to get started with bitcoin accumulation once we’re able to figure out a discretionary income to invest with rather than trying to know everything about bitcoin before getting started. One experience they say is the best teacher, and from the experience gained in our ongoing bitcoin accumulation and investment we will be able to learn and also unlearn more as time goes on so as to make important decisions regarding our investments. The most important thing here is to be able to know if there’s availability of a discretionary income to use and buy bitcoin.
We Need to learn Everything about Bitcoin first, by regularly and responsibly storing Bitcoin,
we gain real Experience about the Market, Risks and our own mentality over time, this experience Helps us make better decisions in the Future. If we have extra income with which we can use and store Bitcoin without Stress!
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December 21, 2025, 07:00:52 AM
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indeed , i agree with you experience comes with time but preparation should come first striking a good balance between learning and action is what helps investors avoid panic and make better long term decisions. investors don't have to know everything to start but you should know enough not to react. A small planning and understanding can go a long way in making  smarter investment choices.
Yes, I agree with you, my friend. It's true that when we want to start investing, like in Bitcoin, it's crucial to learn a little about the asset we're investing in. Just like with Bitcoin, when we already know and want to invest in it, we definitely need to understand what Bitcoin is and what makes it such a powerful asset. So, if we understand the key points of Bitcoin itself and its inherent value, we won't hesitate to invest in it. I don't think anyone who doesn't know the value of Bitcoin would immediately invest in Bitcoin. Essentially, to generate interest, we need to at least understand what Bitcoin is.

So, don't just rely on FOMO. Just because Bitcoin is so popular, we end up buying Bitcoin without even knowing what it is. I think that's a reckless and unhealthy move. Believe me, someone who buys Bitcoin without understanding what it is will certainly panic and sell when the market corrects. Therefore, they certainly won't be long-term investors in Bitcoin. So for that reason, we don't need to panic about missing out. Because learning and finding out about Bitcoin won't take long, and I think it'll be done in an hour. So, in essence, I believe basic knowledge about Bitcoin is absolutely essential for potential new investors.

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December 21, 2025, 07:01:17 AM
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There is no need to postpone investment due to lack of experience. Many people are hesitant when it comes to making additional preparations. Also, opportunities can be missed due to not starting to invest. It is not right to enter into investment without absolutely zero knowledge or planning because this can lead to a person getting confused in the market fluctuations. It is not right to delay for experience, nor is it right to enter into investment with absolutely zero hands. Therefore, a balanced plan is needed before investing that will not panic you after investing.

If you feel that there's no need of postponing investment due to lack of experience then are you suggesting they should move on with it even when they have zero knowledge of what they are doing? You know human beings make this mistake of diving into something they know nothing about more especially when they see their mate doing it just to feel among but the moment they realize that they are not getting it right of course they have every right to pause their investment untill they gain experience rather than to keep investing, it is better they look for a way to gain experience in the early stage than doing it when they must have gone far because they are likely to Loss everything in the middle if they are still lacking experience.
Jumping into something with zero knowledge just because others are doing it is a common mistake, and that is how people mess up them self...  But still what I am saying is more about balance. Waiting until you feel fully experienced can also keep people stuck forever.  Experience does not only come from studying, it also comes from doing, but on a small and safe level first, before you gradually get a full picture..

If someone truly does not understand what they are doing, it makes sense to slow down or even pause and learn. That is a bit of maturity to me..  But instead of stopping completely, they can still participate with very small amounts while learning, so mistakes become lessons, not disasters…

I totally agreed with you, on this aspect they're hoping if they should buy Bitcoin that the value will increase that's why they dont further to know before buying Bitcoin how ever before anyone should engage his or herself into this Bitcoin investment I think the person should at least have little experience because it involves in the speculation on prices fluctuation.

 And also make a deep research concerning Bitcoin and keep and eye on the Market instead of rushing to buy what you cannot finish without any guidelines concerning Bitcoin, that's why many people lost because if you don't know how Bitcoin really works and you're still a newbie then when the volatile period comes you won't be able to keep them having this fear in mind what if you lose everything, that's why crypto involved in educated guessing.
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December 21, 2025, 07:17:58 AM
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If the money been used is truly discretionary, then overthinking market conditions just slows you down for no real reason. Bitcoin is not something you are trying to time every single week, especially if the plan is long term. The DCA approach already remove the stress because you are buying when ever you have extra money, not when the market looks good according to noise on social media..

A lot of people delay starting because they feel they must fully understand market cycles very well. Meanwhile, time keeps moving. With basic knowledge of Bitcoin and a clear plan to only use money you can afford to set aside, you are already ahead of most people. The key part is consistency, not the prediction…
The bolded statement is wrong to some extent, DCA method keep us out from from stress by making bitcoin investment easy for us, instead of we thinking of big amount to invest in Bitcoin, it now allow us to invest with as low as 1$ if that's what we can afford at the time being,
Any investor who wishes to buy Bitcoin and has $1 as discretionary income still has to workaround his finances to have more discretionary income available, even if it's up to $5 or thereabout. This is mainly because with $1, it would be very difficult to buy Bitcoin of that worth via P2P as many ads status starts at around $3.5, even to buy USDT. If the investor has $1 weekly, then the best thing for him or her is to save it up for the $4 or $5 for a month and turn his accumulation to monthly period while he continues to work on his finances to increase his discretionary income to increase his buying amounts.

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] We Need to learn Everything about Bitcoin first, by regularly and responsibly storing Bitcoin,
we gain real Experience about the Market, Risks and our own mentality over time, this experience Helps us make better decisions in the Future.
I might not really understand your total write-up but I'm sure you don't need to know everything about Bitcoin before starting out your investment journey. It's not even possible to know everything in Bitcoin because Bitcoin is a very broad entity that would take you a very long time to fully understand, if at all you'll grasp it very well. Therefore it's an unnecessary delay in your investment journey if you wait to understand everything before kick starting your investment journey. Bitcoin is better learned and understood practically as you advance in your accumulation journey, you tend to understand yourself better and deploy the right attitudes to manage your cashflow properly, stay consistent and committed to your accumulation target and holding period.

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If we have extra income with which we can use and store Bitcoin without Stress!
You use discretionary income to buy Bitcoin and hold it, you don't use extra income to store Bitcoin, Bitcoin is preserved in your wallets address on the Blockchain. You must also preserve your seed phrases and private keys offline and securely so it doesn't get into the hands of a third party.

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December 21, 2025, 07:50:28 AM
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Any investor who wishes to buy Bitcoin and has $1 as discretionary income still has to workaround his finances to have more discretionary income available, even if it's up to $5 or thereabout. This is mainly because with $1, it would be very difficult to buy Bitcoin of that worth via P2P as many ads status starts at around $3.5, even to buy USDT. If the investor has $1 weekly, then the best thing for him or her is to save it up for the $4 or $5 for a month and turn his accumulation to monthly period while he continues to work on his finances to increase his discretionary income to increase his buying amounts.
Investing with $1 weekly or $4 monthly is like making a mockery of your time because what can you achieve with that?
Any Bitcoin investor that found himselves in such a dip shit should be working on his finances by looking for an additional source of discretionary income because since your success is determined by the size of stash in your possession, you can't be investing only $4 monthly and be expected something good because in as much as consistency is very important, investing only $4 monthly for 10 years will be $480 invested, so how can such low figure changes your financial history forever?
So if any Bitcoin investor found himself in such a dip shit, he should prioritize looking for an additional source of discretionary income, so as to be able to build up a reasonable stash of Bitcoin on the longer run.

 
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December 21, 2025, 08:19:36 AM
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You seem to be making a mockery out of the idea of experience, and the fact of the matter, each of us comes to bitcoin from whatever experience level and/or knowledge level that we have, and we work our investment from there.. so long as we have some discretionary funds and common sense, we can work with what we have in order to get started investing in bitcoin and build our bitcoin investment up as we go... and as we become more comfortable in the strength of our cashflows, then we likely can figure out to invest higher levels of our discretionary funds into bitcoin as we are also learning about aspects of ourselves and aspects of bitcoin, too within where we are at in terms of understanding our individual factors.

You right JayJuanGee, A newbie don't really have to jampack his head full of experience,he can simply start working with the little experience he has had and get started. So far he can use that little experience to figure out some discretionary income, he can get started and start stacking bitcoin. From there, he can start learning, gaining more experience on how to go about his investment and sustain it over the long term.  With the experience he will be gaine, the investor can make corrections and take critical decisions regarding his bitcoin investments that are suitable for his long term Hodling plan.


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December 21, 2025, 08:21:21 AM
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Any investor who wishes to buy Bitcoin and has $1 as discretionary income still has to workaround his finances to have more discretionary income available, even if it's up to $5 or thereabout. This is mainly because with $1, it would be very difficult to buy Bitcoin of that worth via P2P as many ads status starts at around $3.5, even to buy USDT. If the investor has $1 weekly, then the best thing for him or her is to save it up for the $4 or $5 for a month and turn his accumulation to monthly period while he continues to work on his finances to increase his discretionary income to increase his buying amounts.
Investing with $1 weekly or $4 monthly is like making a mockery of your time because what can you achieve with that?
Any Bitcoin investor that found himselves in such a dip shit should be working on his finances by looking for an additional source of discretionary income because since your success is determined by the size of stash in your possession, you can't be investing only $4 monthly and be expected something good because in as much as consistency is very important, investing only $4 monthly for 10 years will be $480 invested, so how can such low figure changes your financial history forever?
So if any Bitcoin investor found himself in such a dip shit, he should prioritize looking for an additional source of discretionary income, so as to be able to build up a reasonable stash of Bitcoin on the longer run.
The most important thing is to get started first and be sure to buy with your discretionary income, sure the investor needs to work around his finances and get more discretionary income available for a more successful investment journey. Since he has discretionary income available and it's very small, the best advise for him isn't to continue waiting, right? it would be very practicable and natural that he adjusted his periodic buys in a way that suits him better and why It was suggested going for monthly accumulation while he still works on increasing his discretionary income. The good thing is that he's started out buying and holding Bitcoin, maybe as he advances in his accumulation journey, he might as well learn how to be better at his cashflow management and figure out ways to adjust his spending patterns and make more discretionary income available for his consistent buys.

His having $1 discretionary income doesn't mean he doesn't have some savings prior to getting into Bitcoin. He might have maybe $20 or thereabout that he doesn't need for any expenses sitting in his bank account and it's only right he gets started. There is actually no need waiting while there's available discretionary income, he should buy immediately and plan properly how to follow up his investment journey periodically as appeals to him and his financial power.

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December 21, 2025, 08:40:59 AM
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Agreed, Investing in Bitcoin does not require extensive experience or expertise, a good way to start is by trying to invest small amounts while increasing your knowledge and experience. Using discretionary funds is also a good idea because they do not feel pressured to invest too much, this also has to do with the frequency of investment that is in accordance with the cash flow that is ready to be invested. When someone decides to start investing in small amounts and consistently accumulates the amount periodically, this method can indirectly build good investment habits and better understand how Bitcoin works.
little experience is certainly necessary because even investing small amounts without prior experience in how to invest can be very difficult.
I guess you mean to say @ alankasman that "little or basic knowledge is certainly necessary because investing small amount without prior knowledge on how to invest can be very difficult". Because you can only have experience when you must have invested before, if it is your first time what you can only have is knowledge without experience. And the knowledge that now begin to come after starting out investment is from experience which will support or oppose what you have known prior to your first investment.
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We don't need to be experienced or savy to invest into bitcoin, and hopefully we get started with small amounts and build up our experiences, and we have enough common sense to not invest too much as we are getting used to buying bitcoin from our discretionary funds, whether we  do it on a weekly basis or if we choose some other frequency (based on our cashflow circumstances).

You’re spot on and you’re very correct with your statement, We don’t need to have any experience before we can invest into bitcoin, Literally when I started investing in bitcoin I didn’t require any experience to start investing in bitcoin, little details and information, like basic knowledge was enough for me to start buying bitcoin, but what matters the most is just trying to stay consistent in buying bitcoin when we have started, and what we could actually sustain the investment then we can consider on weekly basis or monthly basis depending on when we have a discretionary income available.  
Nobody needs to understand all the technicalities about Bitcoin before they starts it's investment, even at any point as an experienced investors it's still not necessary to understand every technicalities. What is important is basic knowledge like knowing how to download your Bitcoin wallet, understand the importance of the security of your private keys and know where to buy from.

I know a couple of holders who are not on this forum and they don't have any technical knowledge about Bitcoin yet they haven't encountered any issues whatsoever. This is not to say that having technical knowledge about Bitcoin is not essential or wasteful but it is not necessary. If you know enough to protect your wallet security and have atleast one reliable source to buy genuinely from I think that is quite enough.
You are very correct on this because once you have the mindset of waiting to learn all the basic things all about Bitcoin before you could invest and which can't be able to know everything at a go but to add knowledge to your basics while on the process of your investments before you many end up losing out from investing when you are meant to,  and all newbies should should start buying and accumulating once the discretionary income is available than wasting time or being afraid of losing all you will invest because i know that once have a wrong information as a newbie on how to go about your Bitcoin portfolio it turns to a problem  to invest even when the discretionary income is available but there is know reason to panic because DCA strategy has make it easier for all investors to buying gradually by gradually and with DCA strategy will not lose all you have invested upon.

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We Need to learn Everything about Bitcoin first, by regularly and responsibly storing Bitcoin,

This has been said countless time here by JJG that as a newbie who is about getting started with Bitcoin investment you don't necessarily need to learn everything before getting started with Bitcoin investment, the basic knowledge should be enough for you to get started but if you also feel that learning the whole thing is the best approach for you then you have every right to do as you wish but I must let you know that it is almost impossible for you to learn everything without getting started. so to avoid wasting a whole lot of time in trying to figure out everything about Bitcoin investment I will advise you focus on getting the basic knowledge and also figure out your discretionary income to enable you get started as soon as possible, while accumulating Bitcoin there are some certain things  you will experience which you might not be told or have a clue of if you had waited.

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We don't need to be experienced or savy to invest into bitcoin, and hopefully we get started with small amounts and build up our experiences, and we have enough common sense to not invest too much as we are getting used to buying bitcoin from our discretionary funds, whether we  do it on a weekly basis or if we choose some other frequency (based on our cashflow circumstances).
You’re spot on and you’re very correct with your statement, We don’t need to have any experience before we can invest into bitcoin, Literally when I started investing in bitcoin I didn’t require any experience to start investing in bitcoin, little details and information, like basic knowledge was enough for me to start buying bitcoin, but what matters the most is just trying to stay consistent in buying bitcoin when we have started, and what we could actually sustain the investment then we can consider on weekly basis or monthly basis depending on when we have a discretionary income available.  
Yes you guys are right, if you want to accumulate bitcoin and then hold for long team you really don't need any experience, as a long term bitcoin investor, what do you really need experience for? absolutely nothing, the only people that needs experience is traders because they need to know when to buy and when to sell and having experience will go a long way to succeed as a trader but long term investors has no business with experience. I always tell people the only thing a long term investor who is just coming into the system newly should only know is how to accumulate and how to secure there wallet that's all, long team investors has the most easiest job, you don't need to stress your brain thinking about the market your duty is just to Buy Buy Buy and Buy, just continuing the process for a very Long term.

You seem to be making a mockery out of the idea of experience, and the fact of the matter, each of us comes to bitcoin from whatever experience level and/or knowledge level that we have, and we work our investment from there.. so long as we have some discretionary funds and common sense, we can work with what we have in order to get started investing in bitcoin and build our bitcoin investment up as we go... and as we become more comfortable in the strength of our cashflows, then we likely can figure out to invest higher levels of our discretionary funds into bitcoin as we are also learning about aspects of ourselves and aspects of bitcoin, too within where we are at in terms of understanding our individual factors.

JayJuanGee I'm not making a mockery out of the idea of experience, if a newbie with zero experience comes to me and say he or she wants to start bitcoin investment, i help him or her so they can set up there wallet and then start accumulating they don't need experience before they can start accumulating remember one can only get experience when he or she has been into bitcoin investment for some time and as a newbie with zero experience you can start bitcoin investment and as time goes on you will gain experience.
But again as an investor who is accumulating for long team the experience you may have will only be for accumulation strategy you have not business with studying the market that's for traders.

Well I think the word basic knowledge would be better in place of experience and as a newbie or beginner all they need to kickstart their accumulation journey in Bitcoin is a basic knowledge and their discretionary income and I believe that is what JJG was actually talking about in his post but maybe you misunderstood him because of the word mockery and experience. Bitcoin investment is far different from trading or gambling because you don't need to know everything unlike trading where you will need to know everything so as to run away from loss which is not even possible because they will definitely make loss which is why holding is the best way.

 
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December 21, 2025, 01:04:04 PM
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The skills that are needed to invest in bitcoin are basic.. which is being able to figure out whether or not you have discretionary funds and also common sense so that you do not do dumb shit.  Almost everyone either has the basic necessary skills even though it may well take several years to put the skills together and good at investing into bitcoin and managing cashflows. 

Accordingly, it is good to get started as soon as possible for anyone who can at least determine that he has discretionary funds and he can figure out and hone the various skills and learn whatever else that he needs to learn as he goes.

Regarding risk most normal people with common sense do not invest in order to lose money, so common sense would dictate to start investing with amounts that are deemed reasonable, and to increase the amounts invested as the comfort level increases...

Of course in the very beginning a person might not realize his investment timeline to be 4-10 years or longer, so he might have to learn that he is an investor rather than a trader, and so in bitcoin there are likely a lot of uncertainties to try to invest in less than 4 years , so less than 4 years would be trading rather than investing.

Well said and I agree with you, it’s better  to get started with bitcoin accumulation once we’re able to figure out a discretionary income to invest with rather than trying to know everything about bitcoin before getting started. One experience they say is the best teacher, and from the experience gained in our ongoing bitcoin accumulation and investment we will be able to learn and also unlearn more as time goes on so as to make important decisions regarding our investments. The most important thing here is to be able to know if there’s availability of a discretionary income to use and buy bitcoin.
We Need to learn Everything about Bitcoin first, by regularly and responsibly storing Bitcoin,
we gain real Experience about the Market, Risks and our own mentality over time, this experience Helps us make better decisions in the Future. If we have extra income with which we can use and store Bitcoin without Stress!

If you have a good income, then you will definitely invest in Bitcoin, but what will a person whose discretionary income is low do? If he also wants to invest in Bitcoin, the solution in this case is to invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method. Even for a high-income person, Bitcoin DCA method plays a significant role. And a low-income person can also invest in Bitcoin according to his ability, only if he adopts the DCA method. It is not enough to think only about income, you must have the ability to take the risk of investing, and only by adopting a strategy will it be possible to be successful.

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We Need to learn Everything about Bitcoin first, by regularly and responsibly storing Bitcoin,
we gain real Experience about the Market, Risks and our own mentality over time, this experience Helps us make better decisions in the Future. If we have extra income with which we can use and store Bitcoin without Stress!
It is not possible to learn everything about Bitcoin quickly. And there is no need to learn so much before investing. If you have a discretionary income, then it is advisable to start investing as soon as possible after knowing the basics. Even if you start investing, you can learn a lot with time. Another thing is that learning and real experience are two different things. No matter how many books, articles, spending time in forum or videos you watch if you do not invest yourself, you cannot feel your own emotional reaction during market volatility. That is why it is important to start investing even with a small amount of money.

you are right that regular and responsible accumulation like the habit of buying Bitcoin regularly every week and keeping it safe will help you understand and learn a lot over time. What it feels like when the price dips, how much greed increases when the price go ups, these are all things that can only be gained after starting to invest. And you can only make correct assumptions about how to control yourself during this time. No analyst or influencer can teach you this experience. one thing is important that investments should never be made without discretionary income and it is very important to create a backup fund to continue investing for a long time.

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