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December 31, 2025, 11:07:41 PM
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Just waiting to buy a dip always leads to failure, sitting for a drop often leads to a missed opportunity, so consistently is the most reasonable strategy. Between those who buy consistently and those who just sit for a dip, a consistent investor will definitely be more profitable in the long run. Because investors who buy dips often miss opportunities, or most of them have a more panicked attitude, and the biggest thing is that they can never enter the market as they expect.
It is true that those who wait for the market to fall often fail to enter the market as expected. This is because they rely more on their own assumptions than on the actual market situation and delay making decisions at the right time. As a result, they fail to take advantage of opportunities when they arise.

On the other hand, if someone invests regularly through the DCA strategy without waiting for a fall, then in many cases he is seen to be in a better position than the so-called ,deep buyer, The main goal of an investor should be to keep time in the market, not to time the market.

Many times, investors delay waiting for a fall and ultimately lose the opportunity to enter the market. Therefore, instead of opportunistic investing, it is wiser to invest regularly through the DCA strategy. Continuous investment rather than waiting for a fall is more effective in the long run. And this will be the ethical investment
People are just wasting their time waiting for the perfect dip that might never come when they could  just keep doing regular buying without overthinking every move. It removes the act of guessing prices and emotions from the process. That's why the DCA method preaching has been going on here for quite a lot of time now.  it just need you to be consistent and you don't need to use big money to start, only what you can afford. Happy new year folks. Grin

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Of a truth, the best time to buy Bitcoin is when the price has plummeted or gone down, with this , you will be able to make profit when the price rises. The bitcoin market has a routine and when you follow the routine and understand how the bitcoin market works, you will never be in tension even when you see the bitcoin market fluctuating.


That you were opportuned to buy when the price Dips doesn't mean you call it the best time to buy Bitcoin, it's better you call it and/or say that one is advantaged to buy from the Dip, not the best time to buy Bitcoin, because there is no best or perfect time to buy Bitcoin when it comes to the price of Bitcoin, No! The only best or perfect time to buy bitcoin is when you are able and/or have figured out your discretionary income, and it's ready for accumulation, yea. Because buying with your discretionary does not require you to begin to check the price at the market before buying, no. You just start your Bitcoin accumulation with your discretionary regardless of the present market price, using the DCA strategy to buy even as low as $10.

So there is no perfect timing, because waiting for any unrealistic perfect timing or Dip period might keep you away from investing in Bitcoin since we don't know when or if any Dip will occur. So it's best we start buying if we have our discretionary income ready no matter the price of Bitcoin

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January 01, 2026, 06:49:42 AM
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Truly bitcoin has had an incredible track record over years and promises to do even better though there is no guarantee of that happening, but if we are asked to judge based on available information then the best assumption is that bitcoin will still do even better, and when compared to other assets bitcoin has shown to be better than the other so far making it the best place to invest our money in, the truth of the matter is that anybody who wants to make good profit and is willing to gradually accumulate and hold should do so with bitcoin.
The security I currently feel in the investment world is only found in Bitcoin because it truly provides a way to store our assets to achieve success that we will receive in the future. Even though it may take years the convenience of investing is what makes me increasingly interested in buying Bitcoin. I also don't mind the price but many people tell me what I did was wrong because I didn't wait long enough to buy Bitcoin.

They think that buying Bitcoin requires waiting for the price to drop again while I when I have more income will immediately buy it because our goal is to invest in Bitcoin for a long period of time so that the remainder of what I bought Bitcoin will certainly become funds for my daily needs apart from investing for my future assets I have invested in Bitcoin so I personally do not need to be afraid of buying Bitcoin and one of the right and safe ways to invest is simply by buying Bitcoin as a tool towards our success in saving assets for our future.

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January 01, 2026, 07:12:42 AM
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That's right, the amount of discretionary income that's folks use for their DCA is what determines the size of their portfolio after 4-10 years of investing.....Folks who decides to stay within their financial capacity and are investing little amount like $10 or so are still doing something positive, but then it may be quite impossible for such a small amount to lead to financial independence within 4 years or even 10 years in some cases. Unless that person is flexible in his investment, which means that as he increases his investment amount along the way, as his income grows. Doing so increases the compounding results.
Performing a DCA on Bitcoin using $10, and accumulating it once a week, I think it would still yield a pretty good return. Because there are 44 weeks in a year, and if you multiply that by 10 years, that's 440 weeks. So, if you invest $10 per week in Bitcoin, consistently for 10 years, you'll have invested around $4,400. So, if Bitcoin continues to rise in price and reaches new highs over the course of two cycles, that amount could certainly multiply. So, I think that's quite a good deal, especially for people living in countries with a relatively low cost of living. That's why I'm personally quite optimistic and support anyone investing in Bitcoin, even with a small amount. Essentially, it will help them improve their financial well-being in the future.
You have a funny calendar.. so it might throw off your ability to do proper math.
There are 52 weeks in a year.

Which means that a person investing $10 per week will invest $520 over 1 year and $5,200 over 10 years.
We might be able to suggest that income might go up in 10 years.. so perhaps ability to invest more into bitcoin might get easier once a system of investing into bitcoin is put in place and practiced on a weekly basis.
Haha, you're right, my friend. I miscalculated the number of weeks in a year I might not be focused right now. But the point is, as I explained, everyone doesn't need a lot of money to start investing in Bitcoin. Even $10 can grow significantly if we consistently accumulate that amount every week. As the saying goes, little by little, it becomes a mountain. That's what I believe. So, for anyone who currently feels like they only have a small amount of discretionary funds, we still have great hope for investing in Bitcoin.

Furthermore, after looking at your correct weekly calculation, my friend, in ten years we could accumulate $5,200, and I think that's quite a substantial amount. So, imagine if Bitcoin reached its new all-time high in ten years, its value would undoubtedly increase severalfold. This is what might be called the power of consistency and never looking down on small things. That's why we have to be more enthusiastic about continuing to invest in Bitcoin, especially for me personally.

Part of the power of ongoingly investing in bitcoin over a long period of time has tended to end up paying off. Of course, it is not guaranteed, yet bitcoin does continue to have a strong investment thesis, and I would imagine that someone who starts out at $10 per week today, he may well be able to increase his weekly amount by ongoingly focusing on making sure that he is accumulating, and surely the weekly amount could end up going up.. and yeah, it is likely that the bitcoin will increase in value at a better rate than the dollar (or whatever fiat that guys might be using in the next 10-ish years or so).

Guys who are not used to investing may well become impressed with themselves over the years, yet they also might need to spend time to learn about making sure to safeguard their investment too, since maybe the first year or two, the value might not be very large, but after a few years, there is likely going to be needs to make sure that a large majority of the BTC stash that has been build up (perhaps 80% or more) be kept in private ways and to be safeguard from some of the tricky behaviors of custodians such as exchanges and the various wallets that exchanges might provide for people.  It may well be o.k. to keep relationships with exchanges, yet surely it could be the case that guys might change the places where they source their coins over the years too...   

Personally, I don't know how guys would be able to buy amounts in such small increments (such as $10 per week) without incuring fees that might undermine their investment, so I am sure that fees continue to be a factor, including for poor people.

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January 01, 2026, 07:57:12 AM
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Of a truth, the best time to buy Bitcoin is when the price has plummeted or gone down, with this , you will be able to make profit when the price rises. The bitcoin market has a routine and when you follow the routine and understand how the bitcoin market works, you will never be in tension even when you see the bitcoin market fluctuating.


That you were opportuned to buy when the price Dips doesn't mean you call it the best time to buy Bitcoin, it's better you call it and/or say that one is advantaged to buy from the Dip, not the best time to buy Bitcoin, because there is no best or perfect time to buy Bitcoin when it comes to the price of Bitcoin, No! The only best or perfect time to buy bitcoin is when you are able and/or have figured out your discretionary income, and it's ready for accumulation, yea. Because buying with your discretionary does not require you to begin to check the price at the market before buying, no. You just start your Bitcoin accumulation with your discretionary regardless of the present market price, using the DCA strategy to buy even as low as $10.

So there is no perfect timing, because waiting for any unrealistic perfect timing or Dip period might keep you away from investing in Bitcoin since we don't know when or if any Dip will occur. So it's best we start buying if we have our discretionary income ready no matter the price of Bitcoin
I cannot argue that dip is not the best time to buy Bitcoin because it's like buying at a discount but in reality you don't know when the dip you want will happen because Bitcoin is a volatile asset. That is why smart investors don't wait for dip before they buy Bitcoin, they buy when the fund to buy it with is available, any delays to buy will be as a result of money not waiting for dip. This is why no strategy for long time buying beats DCA method, your concentration will be on what matters most in accumulation which is MONEY .

Grow your income to have a convenient accumulation journey to the number of years that you plan to buy none stop. Pausing for a convenient dip before you buy is a bad strategy because you don't know how long you have to wait and something less important can snatch the money away while you are waiting.
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January 01, 2026, 08:48:43 AM
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That's right, the amount of discretionary income that's folks use for their DCA is what determines the size of their portfolio after 4-10 years of investing.....Folks who decides to stay within their financial capacity and are investing little amount like $10 or so are still doing something positive, but then it may be quite impossible for such a small amount to lead to financial independence within 4 years or even 10 years in some cases. Unless that person is flexible in his investment, which means that as he increases his investment amount along the way, as his income grows. Doing so increases the compounding results.
Performing a DCA on Bitcoin using $10, and accumulating it once a week, I think it would still yield a pretty good return. Because there are 44 weeks in a year, and if you multiply that by 10 years, that's 440 weeks. So, if you invest $10 per week in Bitcoin, consistently for 10 years, you'll have invested around $4,400. So, if Bitcoin continues to rise in price and reaches new highs over the course of two cycles, that amount could certainly multiply. So, I think that's quite a good deal, especially for people living in countries with a relatively low cost of living. That's why I'm personally quite optimistic and support anyone investing in Bitcoin, even with a small amount. Essentially, it will help them improve their financial well-being in the future.

You have a funny calendar.. so it might throw off your ability to do proper math.

There are 52 weeks in a year.

Which means that a person investing $10 per week will invest $520 over 1 year and $5,200 over 10 years.

We might be able to suggest that income might go up in 10 years.. so perhaps ability to invest more into bitcoin might get easier once a system of investing into bitcoin is put in place and practiced on a weekly basis.

You are right because the aim of every investor is to make more profits however in order to make these profits,you need to invest heavily and this profits depend on the strategy deploy over a period of time or plan, as stipulated by the post you replied however a DCA strategy could work wonders in accumulating Bitcoin most especially during bearish season you keep accumulating more in the dip which will give you an edge in the competitive markets over 52 weeks or 53 weeks in a leap Year.
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January 01, 2026, 09:18:58 AM
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That's right, the amount of discretionary income that's folks use for their DCA is what determines the size of their portfolio after 4-10 years of investing.....Folks who decides to stay within their financial capacity and are investing little amount like $10 or so are still doing something positive, but then it may be quite impossible for such a small amount to lead to financial independence within 4 years or even 10 years in some cases. Unless that person is flexible in his investment, which means that as he increases his investment amount along the way, as his income grows. Doing so increases the compounding results.
Performing a DCA on Bitcoin using $10, and accumulating it once a week, I think it would still yield a pretty good return. Because there are 44 weeks in a year, and if you multiply that by 10 years, that's 440 weeks. So, if you invest $10 per week in Bitcoin, consistently for 10 years, you'll have invested around $4,400. So, if Bitcoin continues to rise in price and reaches new highs over the course of two cycles, that amount could certainly multiply. So, I think that's quite a good deal, especially for people living in countries with a relatively low cost of living. That's why I'm personally quite optimistic and support anyone investing in Bitcoin, even with a small amount. Essentially, it will help them improve their financial well-being in the future.
You have a funny calendar.. so it might throw off your ability to do proper math.
There are 52 weeks in a year.

Which means that a person investing $10 per week will invest $520 over 1 year and $5,200 over 10 years.

We might be able to suggest that income might go up in 10 years.. so perhaps ability to invest more into bitcoin might get easier once a system of investing into bitcoin is put in place and practiced on a weekly basis.
You are right because the aim of every investor is to make more profits however in order to make these profits,you need to invest heavily and this profits depend on the strategy deploy over a period of time or plan, as stipulated by the post you replied however a DCA strategy could work wonders in accumulating Bitcoin most especially during bearish season you keep accumulating more in the dip which will give you an edge in the competitive markets over 52 weeks or 53 weeks in a leap Year.

Leap years only have 1 day more, not a whole week.

Another thing is that I did not say anything about any needs to focus on profits, since one of the main concerns for someone who might invest for 10 years or more would likely be how much BTC he was able to accumulate and whether he was able to protect that BTC.. and most likely there would be a presumption that the BTC is in profits, even though the profits are not likely as big of a concern.... yet surely guys are going to vary in terms of whether they might feel some needs to make adjustments to what they are doing after 10 years or if they just continue with the same or similar strategy even if they had already spent 10 years or more accumulating bitcoin.

Part of the power of ongoingly investing in bitcoin over a long period of time has tended to end up paying off. Of course, it is not guaranteed, yet bitcoin does continue to have a strong investment thesis, and I would imagine that someone who starts out at $10 per week today, he may well be able to increase his weekly amount by ongoingly focusing on making sure that he is accumulating, and surely the weekly amount could end up going up.. and yeah, it is likely that the bitcoin will increase in value at a better rate than the dollar (or whatever fiat that guys might be using in the next 10-ish years or so).

Guys who are not used to investing may well become impressed with themselves over the years, yet they also might need to spend time to learn about making sure to safeguard their investment too, since maybe the first year or two, the value might not be very large, but after a few years, there is likely going to be needs to make sure that a large majority of the BTC stash that has been build up (perhaps 80% or more) be kept in private ways and to be safeguard from some of the tricky behaviors of custodians such as exchanges and the various wallets that exchanges might provide for people.  It may well be o.k. to keep relationships with exchanges, yet surely it could be the case that guys might change the places where they source their coins over the years too...   

Personally, I don't know how guys would be able to buy amounts in such small increments (such as $10 per week) without incuring fees that might undermine their investment, so I am sure that fees continue to be a factor, including for poor people.
I agree with the general idea that consistent, long-term accumulation of bitcoin has historically paid off, and that dollar-cost averaging helps people avoid emotional decision-making. The discipline of putting in a fixed amount over time, even something as small as $10 per week, can be more important than the size of the investment itself. Bitcoin’s fixed supply and its continued adoption do give it a stronger long-term thesis than most fiat currencies.

That said, I don’t fully agree with the implication that small weekly buys are inherently impractical or fee-prohibitive. In many regions, people already batch purchases, use low-fee platforms, or buy monthly instead of weekly to manage fees. While fees do matter—especially for lower-income investors—they are not an unsolvable problem, and they don’t necessarily undermine the strategy if handled intelligently.

I also agree that self-custody becomes increasingly important over time, particularly once the stack grows into something meaningful. Many newcomers underestimate this aspect, and learning about private keys, backups, and secure storage is just as critical as learning how to buy. However, I’d disagree with the idea that keeping coins on exchanges early on is always a major risk. For very small amounts, the practical risk is often lower than the risk of users losing their own keys due to inexperience. Self-custody is a responsibility, not just a virtue.

Where I’d push back a bit is the assumption that bitcoin will “surely” outperform fiat over the next 10 years. While I personally find the thesis compelling, it’s still an investment, not a guarantee. Overconfidence can be just as dangerous as fear, especially for people new to
investing. Managing expectations matters as much as believing in the asset.

I probably overstated the matter if I suggested that bitcoin's performance is guaranteed, even though bitcoin remains amongst the best of investments currently available to everyone and anyone with discretionary funds, so guys need to figure out how much to put into bitcoin, including considering that their bitcoin might go down in value or even to zero based on their own execution risk and even various other risks related to bitcoin... so yeah, we frequently repeat that bitcoin investing is not guaranteed to be profitable.. yet at the same time bitcoin is an asymmetric bet to the upside, so as long as a person does not employ leverage or other finacial tools, then the most they can lose is 100% of what they put into it..

and at the same time, the upside is way larger than 100%...so they are still left with personal choices regarding how much to put into it, if anything...and if they choose to put none or to be whimpy or to be a low coiner, that is their choice.  I frequently suggest to invest as aggressively as able to invest into bitcoin without overdoing it... yet the choice is still up to them and how they execute is up to them, too.... Each of us is responsible for our actions, since no one is going to help them out if they fuck up by either investing too much or too little.

Overall, I think the strongest takeaway is this: slow accumulation, education, and gradual improvement in security practices tend to work better than trying to optimize everything from day one. Bitcoin rewards patience and learning, but it doesn’t eliminate risk—and understanding that balance is what separates sustainable investors from disappointed ones.

You sound like a bot.

Maybe you should explain particulars in regards to what you are doing instead of spouting out general theoretical principles and acting so smart for a newbie?  I see you have been registerred on the forum for about half a year since July 2025.

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You sound like a bot.

Maybe you should explain particulars in regards to what you are doing instead of spouting out general theoretical principles and acting so smart for a newbie?  I see you have been registerred on the forum for about half a year since July 2025.
He doesn't sound like one, he is a Bot. I have reported him. Hopefully strict action is taken and he is Awarded for his "intelligence"
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January 01, 2026, 11:16:57 AM
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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.


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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
In my own opinion, DCA strategy still remains one of the the best and convenient approach for accumulating Bitcoin... DCA is one of the only strategy that can match well with our cash flow and income, especially for folks who earns  occasionally and may have other responsibilities to take care of... DCA guarantees consistent accumulation, with the little or no possibility of bothering to time the market...

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January 01, 2026, 01:32:27 PM
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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.
It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.

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In my own opinion, DCA strategy still remains one of the the best and convenient approach for accumulating Bitcoin... DCA is one of the only strategy that can match well with our cash flow and income, especially for folks who earns  occasionally and may have other responsibilities to take care of... DCA guarantees consistent accumulation, with the little or no possibility of bothering to time the market...
You have to very bold in saying it, it is not about personal opinion is about fact and that is what you have been able to say, the DCA strategy is the most effective method of investing in Bitcoin, have ask yourself why this method has been the topic of discussion all the time, this is because, it is really the most excellent if we are to compare it to all. As day pass by newbies are here seeking for knowledge and most of them are confused because they think they must have huge amount before they can invest, we are here to tell them that they can start their Bitcoin investment with what they have and try as much as they can to grow their income.

Aside the set of investors you mentioned here, DCA method is good for every investor as long as we find it comfortable to invest with, Bitcoin investment is a smart investment and we must invest without stress no matter what and grow from there.

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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Since the price of Bitcoin fluctuates in very little time , the best way to accumulate Bitcoin in the DCA method is from all other types of strategies. Some of the important problems in investment are trying to timing the market, panic selling due to emotion and making wrong decisions due to volatility. Investing in the DCA method plays a big role in keeping all these problems as far away as possible. And especially in learning beginner , this is very useful. With any amount of money, if it is discretionary income, then he can invest very easily.

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It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.
There is no strategy that isn't good for accumulating bitcoin. It won't be a good idea for anyone to talk down on any of the strategy and investor can decide to combine all the strategies to achieve or accomplish his or  her investment plan. However waiting for bitcoin to dip isn't a strategy that a newbie or no coiner should consider starting with as waiting is not among the strategies for buying bitcoin and also while remain no coiner or a low coiner and be waiting for a dip while we can make use of the other strategies and later on incorporate the other strategies as we go on with our bitcoin accumulation journey.

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January 01, 2026, 02:37:02 PM
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Market has been bleeding pretty bad lately , this is the best time to buy more though and I think it would be best if this thread name is changed to something else that encourages buying more because selling now won’t be smart at all though the market may not guarantee when some folk will sell , some folk might wait till they hit their accumulation goal , then wait till the price is convenient for them to sell . But times like this is more of buying than selling and stuff.
Yes, Bitcoin is currently experiencing a significant price correction, and I agree that buying more Bitcoin now would be quite tempting. However, we shouldn't just buy a lot now we should still consistently perform regular DCA (Direct Cash Flow) transactions every week or month. That's what I think we should pay more attention to. Furthermore, regarding the title of this thread, I don't think it's a big deal.

Although the title is "buy buy buy" or "sell sell sell sell sell," the content of this thread truly encourages everyone to invest in Bitcoin for the long term. Therefore, the title doesn't need to be changed, as the content is already excellent. However, it's up to the OP changing the title is certainly fine. I emphasize again that the content of this thread is more important.

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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.
It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.

The strategy we use in Bitcoin really speaks loud in our investment because there is a strategy we can not depend on alone else it will really delay and make us not get enough fraction of Bitcoin in our portfolio and this strategy is the buy Dip. It is a nice strategy but it only works when the price of Bitcoin is down and of course an investor doesn't need to wait for the price of Bitcoin to dip before they accumulate, it doesn't make any sense so we can't really use this strategy alone if we really want to grow fast in our investment so the DCA method can actually work with this method perfectly that is accumulating little by little and at same time preparing for the Dip.











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January 01, 2026, 06:39:30 PM
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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.
It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.

You cannot assume that guys waiting for dips are doing the right thing.  There are trade offs, and they may or may not be aware of their level of dumbness and greediness and their bad mindset... but hey guys can do what they like, even dumb shit.  So, yeah, guys can be blamed for being dumb and greedy.  We have seen a lot of this greediness and waiting for dips through bitcoin's history.  Guys waiting for dips that did not happen, and guys failing/refusing to ongoingly buy bitcoin because they think that they are smarter, and so yeah those guys ended up getting themselves into a bad mindset, a bad set of practices and in a worse situation than would have had been or should have had been as compared with guys who had been ongoing and persistently buying bitcoin.  Yeah, they might get lucky, yet it seems a bad idea to be incorporating gambling and/or luck into bitcoin investing, rather than staying focused on ongoing, consistent, persistent, regular and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin, and that does not come through the employment of gambling and waiting techniques.

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January 01, 2026, 07:02:11 PM
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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.
It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.

The strategy we use in Bitcoin really speaks loud in our investment because there is a strategy we can not depend on alone else it will really delay and make us not get enough fraction of Bitcoin in our portfolio and this strategy is the buy Dip. It is a nice strategy but it only works when the price of Bitcoin is down and of course an investor doesn't need to wait for the price of Bitcoin to dip before they accumulate, it doesn't make any sense so we can't really use this strategy alone if we really want to grow fast in our investment so the DCA method can actually work with this method perfectly that is accumulating little by little and at same time preparing for the Dip.
Relying only on buying the dip can really slow things down, because the market does not always give you the kind of dips you are waiting for. If someone keeps waiting, they will just end up missing a lot of accumulation time when they are suppose to be Dcaing and still hold less Bitcoin at the end.

That is why combining it with DCA is more better. You just keep accumulating steady, no matter the price, and still have some funds ready when a real dip come. It helps grow your position without trying to time the market.

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January 01, 2026, 08:34:36 PM
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Relying only on buying the dip can really slow things down, because the market does not always give you the kind of dips you are waiting for. If someone keeps waiting, they will just end up missing a lot of accumulation time when they are suppose to be Dcaing and still hold less Bitcoin at the end.

That is why combining it with DCA is more better. You just keep accumulating steady, no matter the price, and still have some funds ready when a real dip come. It helps grow your position without trying to time the market.
Waiting for a dip is not a bad thing but it does not mean that you should stop investing completely. Rather, you should continue to invest regularly through the DCA strategy and at the same time wait for opportunities. Just like we keep an emergency fund, it is wise to keep a separate fund for use during downturns.

If you want, you can save a part of your income for the downturn, which is the mark of a conscious and realistic investor. But if someone does not invest just waiting for the downturn, then this is nothing more than thinking detached from reality.

It is very important to adopt the right strategy before investing. Such as a DCA strategy, backup or emergency fund, if any, then the investment becomes much more stable. Those who postpone investment just waiting for the downturn, miss out on big opportunities in the long run.

Investment should be managed by setting a specific time frame and goal and it is not right to stop investing emotionally before that time. The main goal should be long-term, sustainable investment, without paying too much attention to short-term fluctuations in the market. Do not withdraw from the investment until the specified time frame is reached. And don't waste time waiting for the fall. Because I myself have wasted a lot of time like this and I have fallen behind. So start with reality. Especially during the fall, give up the dream of buying low and making big profits.
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January 01, 2026, 09:25:39 PM
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There is no strategy that isn't good for buying bitcoin however the only thing I think that is wrong is how we approach and apply this strategy. Buying the dips isn't a bad idea, the only thing is about waiting for the dip to happen before it occurs. The fact that someone is using DCA strategy also doesn't prevent them from buying the dip or doing lump sum . The most important thing is if we have the discretionary income to invest with.
Every strategy is good and could be effective depending on who is using it to accumulate bitcoin and how consistent they invest from discretionary income. Since these strategies requires the use of discretionary income to invest, what you should be more concerned with isn't the strategy itself but producing discretionary income that will make the strategy effective.
Waiting for the Dip before buying is nonsensical since you're DCAing because waiting or timing the market completely contradict the true essence of DCA strategy. I think buying regardless of the price will be more rewarding and more reasonable than waiting for the dip that may never occur.
It all depends on the financial capacity we have. I think it doesn't matter what strategy we use to accumulate Bitcoin, although I also agree that the DCA strategy is quite profitable. However, for some people who want to buy in larger amounts and wait for price drops, that cannot be blamed either, because they are certainly aware of the risks and all the possibilities.

You cannot assume that guys waiting for dips are doing the right thing.  There are trade offs, and they may or may not be aware of their level of dumbness and greediness and their bad mindset... but hey guys can do what they like, even dumb shit.  So, yeah, guys can be blamed for being dumb and greedy.  We have seen a lot of this greediness and waiting for dips through bitcoin's history.  Guys waiting for dips that did not happen, and guys failing/refusing to ongoingly buy bitcoin because they think that they are smarter, and so yeah those guys ended up getting themselves into a bad mindset, a bad set of practices and in a worse situation than would have had been or should have had been as compared with guys who had been ongoing and persistently buying bitcoin.  Yeah, they might get lucky, yet it seems a bad idea to be incorporating gambling and/or luck into bitcoin investing, rather than staying focused on ongoing, consistent, persistent, regular and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin, and that does not come through the employment of gambling and waiting techniques.

Like I literally said there’s nothing wrong with buying the dip but waiting for the dip before accumulating is wrong because that’s more of a trader mindset , not an investor. As an investor you have already pictured yourself into bitcoin for longterm gain , and you will have to play the role of accumulating as much as you can so that when the take comes to take profit you will have a big smile on your face showing how proud you are on yourself for being persistent and consistent.

Many got encourage for focusing on the dip alone for just being lucky and stuff. And most time this usually backfired, like leading to missed opportunities. Like for instance bitcoin price range is $40k , then you decided to wait for more dip (waiting for $20k) at the end, it endup surging to the price range of $70k , even making it more  expensive than the first price you refused to buy at . And some folk endup buying at such range with regret (had I known I would have started accumulating at $40k) , and a time will come when many are going to $100k the way we are seeing $10k range now ( the chances of bitcoin going back to $10k damn low).

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