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[PhilosopherKing]

Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

dude why are you confusing yourself huh? You can't be trading and think that you are using DCa because dca has no business with trading. They are not same.

dca is a long time Bitcoin method that people can use to ongoingly investing bitcoin for years no matter the price. And trading is short time that method of buying and selling to get fast profits.

[Umulala-alala]

Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

The dca strategy is not a trading strategy instead you can say that waiting for the dip before you can buy for investor who has not reach his accumulation time can be seen as a trading strategy. The dca strategy is a method of buying bitcoin consistently and regularly either every weeks or every months and hodl for long.

[Bigjoe33]

 Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

Firstly, you sound confused as the use of trading to DCA strategy doesn't really sound well and of course might be misleading. Secondly, it's an investment discussion and not Trading, and thus, such use of word(trading) should be avoided when explaining investment strategies such as the use of the DCA.

Lastly, from your first line above, I don't think it's compulsory that an investor must buy multiple times weekly before they can retain or increase there portfolio, nope. That might be too aggressive and might make the investor go out of there financial budget plan of accumulation. There is no need to rush, as investment is not a competition with anyone. It is best we invest within our means and ensure we don't out ourselves on pressure in buying bitcoin. The DCA strategy has made it very easy for investors to gradually accumulate Bitcoin as they can afford without pressure, and I think that's just the best if obe really wishes to hold for long without pressure

[Solokan]

Many have been complaining of finding it difficult to make a suitable entry and invest in Bitcoin and also be profitable about it within a short period of time, things like this do happen when we fail to do the needful and avoid getting used to the necessary steps that must be taken you know that's why I have an effective Bitcoin investment experience.

Understanding the current market situation is very important, knowing that the market has now been revolving round within $60,000 to $70,000. We can always find a suitable entry from this range and buy to hold, then later sell out when the market rises. We also fall back on the market and buy when it plummets, this is just a very simple strategy we can make use of and be profitable within a short time.

Yes, I think that's a good technique for trading BTC. Indeed, if we want to make short-term profits, that's the way it is. That way, we'll definitely make a profit in the near future, but with the right entry time.

I don't think there's anything wrong with doing whatever we want, as each person has their own rights. Trading and investing in BTC certainly have their advantages and disadvantages. However, I think long-term investment offers greater convenience because you don't need to constantly check the BTC price. Personally, I prefer long-term investment in BTC because BTC prices are sometimes difficult to predict, and trading can sometimes be difficult to control. Sometimes, we sell BTC too cheaply, sometimes we can't enter at a good position. However, so far, I've heard of quite a few losses due to trading, but I haven't heard of losses due to long-term investment in BTC, except for those who panic sell when the BTC price drops or

[Umulala-alala]

Yes, I think that's a good technique for trading BTC. Indeed, if we want to make short-term profits, that's the way it is. That way, we'll definitely make a profit in the near future, but with the right entry time.

It's bad to see that you also encouraging trading of BTC in this thread you believe that your investment can go as you plan? By buying low and sell when the price of bitcoin increase if you think this you will definitely loss your money while trying to trade bitcoin or see bitcoin investment as an asset that can be traded . Always for plan for a long term bitcoin investment, buying bitcoin and hodl for a period of 4-10 or more should be encouraged and not buying and selling for short term gain. There is not hard if you can buy gradually using the dca strategy either by weeks or months using your discretionary income and hodl for long.

[Saltysugar99]

Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

The dca strategy is not a trading strategy instead you can say that waiting for the dip before you can buy for investor who has not reach his accumulation time can be seen as a trading strategy. The dca strategy is a method of buying bitcoin consistently and regularly either every weeks or every months and hodl for long.

Trading or investing depends on how long you hold Bitcoin. If someone buys Bitcoin with a large amount of money at once and holds it for 4 to 10 years or more, then we can call it investment. And we all know that DCA is a means of accumulating Bitcoin by regularly with some amount. DCA reduces mental stress with discretionary income. And it creates a habit of buying regularly. If someone cannot hold it for a long time even after doing DCA, it will still be trading.

[JayJuanGee]

Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

The dca strategy is not a trading strategy instead you can say that waiting for the dip before you can buy for investor who has not reach his accumulation time can be seen as a trading strategy. The dca strategy is a method of buying bitcoin consistently and regularly either every weeks or every months and hodl for long.

Trading or investing depends on how long you hold Bitcoin. If someone buys Bitcoin with a large amount of money at once and holds it for 4 to 10 years or more, then we can call it investment. And we all know that DCA is a means of accumulating Bitcoin by regularly with some amount. DCA reduces mental stress with discretionary income. And it creates a habit of buying regularly. If someone cannot hold it for a long time even after doing DCA, it will still be trading.

Why don't you provide an example of a guy who might have a "large amount of money" that he is willing to invest all at once and then hold it for 4-10 years?  What is your hypothetical and how would he go about such investment?  Has he just heard about bitcoin?

Let me try to use some reasonable numbers.  Let's say that he is a guy in his early 40s, and so maybe his current income is around $55k.

Let's say that the guy had been investing around 17% of his income since he was in his mid 20s, so he has an investment portfolio that is right around $125k (which is right around 2.25x higher than his annual income).. Let's say that its mostly in various index funds so he can withdraw it if he wants to.

What is he going to do?  in order to proceed?  Let's say that he would like to be able to retire in his mid-50s with the ability to draw an income of around $100k per year ..l so that would be 10-15 years from now.  By the way, in recent times, he has been investing about $190 per week.

Tell me.  How is he going to do it? to front load or to put some large amount in? or do you want to present other kinds of facts?  I am trying to present some facts of a normal person rather than some rich guy who came accross $125k all of a sudden, the guy has the money already invested.  Sure there could be a situation in which he is released from his job and he receives a severance package or some other situation in which he comes across large quantities of money all of a sudden.

I know that frequently guys fantasize about money coming out of no where, and it does not tend to be very common (for normal people) to have lump sum amounts available that they can just front load their bitcoin investment.

Sometimes even in a circumstance like the one I describe above, it still might take the guy quite a long time to get 1-2 years income into bitcoin.. but you can describe what you imagine to be a reasonably imaginary possibility in the context of my facts or some other facts that you imagine to be realistic for a guy to front load his investment into bitcoin.

[Gallar]

The dca strategy is not a trading strategy instead you can say that waiting for the dip before you can buy for investor who has not reach his accumulation time can be seen as a trading strategy. The dca strategy is a method of buying bitcoin consistently and regularly either every weeks or every months and hodl for long.

DCA is a buying strategy that allows users to better manage their capital and time. Therefore, this strategy can be used in any investment instrument, including Bitcoin. DCA is a very convenient strategy, especially for those who may not have a large amount of capital to invest in Bitcoin. With DCA, we still have high hopes of profiting from Bitcoin investments over the long term.

Then, waiting for a decline before making a purchase can also be used as a buying strategy for Bitcoin investments. However, as we know, this strategy is not recommended for beginners in Bitcoin investments because it will undoubtedly hinder the growth of their Bitcoin portfolio. Therefore, for those who want to invest in Bitcoin, DCA is indeed the right strategy to implement. Because it is a strategy that essentially provides us with extra comfort when investing in Bitcoin.

[Finebone]

Then, waiting for a decline before making a purchase can also be used as a buying strategy for Bitcoin investments. However, as we know, this strategy is not recommended for beginners in Bitcoin investments because it will undoubtedly hinder the growth of their Bitcoin portfolio.

I think that it's not  only for beginners it's not recommended for, it's also not recommended for veterans investor that has not gotten to their over accumulation status yet, because by waiting for the dip, they may struggle to get to their over accumulation status faster, and since no one is certain of what may happen to the value of Bitcoin in the next few hours or minutes, missing out on some valuable buying opportunities will be inevitable, which is not good for the growth of their Bitcoin stash.

What all bitcoin investors are adviced on, pertaining to a dip buying is that, you should continue your weekly or monthly accumulation, then when their is a dip in the market, that time you can buy aggressively if you have a reserve funds to carry it out, not by waiting for it, and if it doesn't work out as expected, you becomes disappointed.

[Sarah_Jannat42]

Consistently monitoring Bitcoin price by new investors can easily bring disappointments for them, what they need to do is be buying consistently regardless of whether price is going up or down. Investors without experience of the market can easily panic and sell prematurely in dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, they will think that they are loosing their capital very fast.

Frequent monitoring of the market is for traders who are looking for openings to sell and make quick profits but investors don't necessarily have to monitor the market because they are not in a hurry to sell. If you are doing DCA method and also focused on monitoring the market then the strategy wouldn't be effective for you because anytime there is an uptrend you will panic to buy and you might stop and be waiting for price to dip. Buy Bitcoin when you have available fund for it, no need to check the right timing to buy because you don't control the market.

You are right, there is no logical reason to check the right time to invest in Bitcoin if it is a long-term investment idea. And the first thing that is important for investing in Bitcoin is the mind set. An investor who is interested in investing in Bitcoin for the first time must first make up his mind that I am definitely going to invest in the long term. So it is good to monitor the market but there is no need to worry about it. All that is needed is a continuous investment plan.

[Joeboy]

So in my own opinion, buying consistently either weekly or monthly is the best, then if their is a serious dip in the market, you may decide to seize the opportunity and buy aggressively then only if you have the reserve funds to carry it out, not by waiting for it to dip before buying.

I really don't buy the idea that folks should only be aggressive during the dip... Infact here are my exact thinking: Aggressiveness during dip is definitely a product of folks timing the market, which may not always be good since it could lead folks to miss out on their buying opportunities...Folks can very well be aggressive if they have enough discretionary income to do so, regardless of whether it is during the dip or not...

Those who focus more on buying Bitcoin will benefit the most at the present time, if you can deposit Bitcoin at a low price, then of course it is important to follow the DCA method if you invest in Bitcoin for future purposes.

Depositing( buying ) Bitcoin at low prices is called buying the dip where folks get to time the market for dips... And that is obviously different from DCA strategy, don't mix both up...

[ASloveapg]

Consistently monitoring Bitcoin price by new investors can easily bring disappointments for them, what they need to do is be buying consistently regardless of whether price is going up or down. Investors without experience of the market can easily panic and sell prematurely in dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, they will think that they are loosing their capital very fast.

Frequent monitoring of the market is for traders who are looking for openings to sell and make quick profits but investors don't necessarily have to monitor the market because they are not in a hurry to sell. If you are doing DCA method and also focused on monitoring the market then the strategy wouldn't be effective for you because anytime there is an uptrend you will panic to buy and you might stop and be waiting for price to dip. Buy Bitcoin when you have available fund for it, no need to check the right timing to buy because you don't control the market.

You are right, there is no logical reason to check the right time to invest in Bitcoin if it is a long-term investment idea. And the first thing that is important for investing in Bitcoin is the mind set. An investor who is interested in investing in Bitcoin for the first time must first make up his mind that I am definitely going to invest in the long term. So it is good to monitor the market but there is no need to worry about it. All that is needed is a continuous investment plan.

Of course, those who worry unnecessarily about price will only get nothing but lag behind because of this extra worry. There is no point in thinking like this, they are all valueless, rather more harmful. If we can ignore it completely and continue to invest consistently, then it can give us better results. This daily fluctuation and volatility of the market is very natural, so there is no reason to worry about it, rather if we can only stick to DCA, then only our portfolio will continue to move forward better, and we can accumulate the portfolio at an average price only through consistency, otherwise if we affect and delay our investment due to the fluctuation, then its consistency and average value will be lost.

[sotelorene]

Consistently monitoring Bitcoin price by new investors can easily bring disappointments for them, what they need to do is be buying consistently regardless of whether price is going up or down. Investors without experience of the market can easily panic and sell prematurely in dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, they will think that they are loosing their capital very fast.

Frequent monitoring of the market is for traders who are looking for openings to sell and make quick profits but investors don't necessarily have to monitor the market because they are not in a hurry to sell. If you are doing DCA method and also focused on monitoring the market then the strategy wouldn't be effective for you because anytime there is an uptrend you will panic to buy and you might stop and be waiting for price to dip. Buy Bitcoin when you have available fund for it, no need to check the right timing to buy because you don't control the market.

You are right, there is no logical reason to check the right time to invest in Bitcoin if it is a long-term investment idea. And the first thing that is important for investing in Bitcoin is the mind set. An investor who is interested in investing in Bitcoin for the first time must first make up his mind that I am definitely going to invest in the long term. So it is good to monitor the market but there is no need to worry about it. All that is needed is a continuous investment plan.

There is nothing actually wrong in monitoring the market but I don't advise newbie to do that because it can be so tempting to either sell when they have seen a little profit and also tempting to sell when the market is dipping. Moreover, this advise is not only meant for newbie but also to some investors who may not be able to resist these things. And there is never a right time to start Bitcoin investment but if you ask me I will say the right time is now if you have what it takes because ordinarily the right time to start this journey was when this asset was still small in value but since we didn't invest then, that automatically means that the right time is now that we so much aware of it.

[Cossyblack]

dude why are you confusing yourself huh? You can't be trading and think that you are using DCa because dca has no business with trading. They are not same.

dca is a long time Bitcoin method that people can use to ongoingly investing bitcoin for years no matter the price. And trading is short time that method of buying and selling to get fast profits.

The level at which people mistakes trading and investment is alarming. They don't know that trading is different from investment. They would hold bitcoin for less than 4 years and see called themselves long term investors. Trading is about buying and selling for short term profits which isn't the same with investment. Yh fact that they are buying bitcoin and later sell for quick profits doesn't makes it ian investment. Whether they buying useing dca or lump,if they don't hold for at least 4-10 years they are still traders.

[NewRevelation]

So in my own opinion, buying consistently either weekly or monthly is the best, then if their is a serious dip in the market, you may decide to seize the opportunity and buy aggressively then only if you have the reserve funds to carry it out, not by waiting for it to dip before buying.

I really don't buy the idea that folks should only be aggressive during the dip... Infact here are my exact thinking: Aggressiveness during dip is definitely a product of folks timing the market, which may not always be good since it could lead folks to miss out on their buying opportunities...Folks can very well be aggressive if they have enough discretionary income to do so, regardless of whether it is during the dip or not...

That's just it. Aggressiveness in the market doesn't only happen when there is a Dip. Aggressiveness happens anytime, and so guys can actually become aggressive in buying bitcoin if they have the enough money to do so regardless of the time, wether there is Dip or not.

For an example, an investor who has been buying bitcoin consistently with $50 -100 weekly or monthly. He happens to get note money, like making axtra income or gets extra income, he can decide to increase his DCAing amount to $150-180-200 as the case maybe. At this point, we can say he has become more aggressively involved at that point. So aggressiveness doesn't only come when there is a Dip, but it can come anytime

[Stormisover]

So in my own opinion, buying consistently either weekly or monthly is the best, then if their is a serious dip in the market, you may decide to seize the opportunity and buy aggressively then only if you have the reserve funds to carry it out, not by waiting for it to dip before buying.

I really don't buy the idea that folks should only be aggressive during the dip... Infact here are my exact thinking: Aggressiveness during dip is definitely a product of folks timing the market, which may not always be good since it could lead folks to miss out on their buying opportunities...Folks can very well be aggressive if they have enough discretionary income to do so, regardless of whether it is during the dip or not...

If whatever you considered to be an aggressive buy is still within an investors discretionary income for me I don't it is a problem be it during the dip or not though the dip can mess some forks up if not handle with care because some forks can become carried away and get over excited about the dip and end up buying Bitcoin way too much that is above their limit which is over aggressive which is completely bad, what am saying that in essence is that if forks can be aggressive within the limit of their discretionary income then is ok by me whether during the dip or not.

[Nightwatchmare]

I completely agree just as said in most cases what really matters is for the new investor to have a little ideas of how Bitcoin roam about, more over in this aspect you can forther with bitch investment also reaching out  with your dictionary and other purposes is to work with someone that will lead you after sometimes, as an investor aim is to gain but most times it happens to be at the end you don't get what you were craving for this occurrence take place when the investor only hold it for a short period of time.

What the heck are you saying man? And what do you mean with all these crappy talk about bitch investment, dictionary and basic knowledge? To start invest people just need common sense and discretionary income. And if they have them then they can start ongoingly investing for a cycle and even more. Bitcoin is volatile so people should avoid short term investing as it can likely screw them up in ways they never thought possible. Long term investment of over a cycle is always the best.

It seems Borbb wanted to write Bitcoin investment and discretionary income but he spell those words wrongly, that is why you are finding it hard to comprehend some of the things he said in his post. People can start Bitcoin investment without them knowing much about Bitcoin itself, but it is not even wrong that Borbb advise new investor to have a little deals of how Bitcoin works because deep down people needs to have basic knowledge about Bitcoin before they can start investing in Bitcoin so that they will not rush to sell off their Bitcoin investments too early when Bitcoin starts dropping.

[Lembo69]

If whatever you considered to be an aggressive buy is still within an investors discretionary income for me I don't it is a problem

If an investor invests excessively aggressively, he can invest a lot of money, which is not the right decision for him, but he will bring his own danger. It is not right to forget the investment limit, every investor should have a specific limit, the main thing is that whether it is a dip or not, there is a risk in investing aggressively, the investor should learn to avoid this risk and invest steadily.

be it during the dip or not though the dip can mess some forks up if not handle with care because some forks can become carried away and get over excited about the dip and end up buying Bitcoin way too much that is above their limit which is over aggressive which is completely bad,

It is not at all appropriate to buy Bitcoin excitedly or aggressively after seeing a dip. Rather, you should invest a small part of your total income, which is 10-20% of your income. And it should be invested in such a sector that even if you lose, it will not be a problem. And it will not have any impact on your daily life. Along with investment, you must keep an emergency fund to keep your investment safe, an emergency fund is your friend in times of trouble. Your income is decreasing, you should keep 3-6 months of salary in an emergency fund, and it is never reasonable to invest in Bitcoin beyond your means.

what am saying that in essence is that if forks can be aggressive within the limit of their discretionary income then is ok by me whether during the dip or not.

Yes, an investor can buy Bitcoin aggressively if he wants, if it is from his discretionary income. That is, if he loses money that will not cause much loss or problem. However, it is better to stay within the limit even if he is aggressive.

When can an investor buy aggressively?

• When the market dips
• Long-term plan

First of all, you need to know about the market tricks, the price of Bitcoin is not in anyone's favor, that is, if you invest all your money aggressively in Bitcoin, then you can face big losses, so before becoming aggressive in investment, patience is needed, if you are less patient in investment, the danger is in your favor, if you are patient and can make the right decision and use your money properly, then the investment will be sustainable. To make your investments sustainable and strong, you will often need to pause or refrain from investing aggressively. Being overly aggressive can be detrimental to both you and your investments.

[AYOBA]

Purchasing multiple times every week on a consistent basis should work well for long-term holders, while those who are using DCA as a part of their trading strategy should be executing this strategy aggressively. However, the primary consideration when developing an ongoing DCA trading strategy should be portfolio assessment and risk management.

dude why are you confusing yourself huh? You can't be trading and think that you are using DCa because dca has no business with trading. They are not same.

dca is a long time Bitcoin method that people can use to ongoingly investing bitcoin for years no matter the price. And trading is short time that method of buying and selling to get fast profits.

That’s just the fact there’s no anyway a traders can use the DCA methods because everyone has his own methods that are using, I don’t know why some people’s are still confusing themselves to use the DCA methods in-terms of trading, after they knows that it will not give them any results. The trading is only deal with buy and sell for a short period of times, whereby the DCA methods is working for those who have the small capital to invest in the Bitcoin this DCA can help them to buy with little amount of they’ve; so that it can grow their portfolio in future.

[Muba20]

So in my own opinion, buying consistently either weekly or monthly is the best, then if their is a serious dip in the market, you may decide to seize the opportunity and buy aggressively then only if you have the reserve funds to carry it out, not by waiting for it to dip before buying.

I really don't buy the idea that folks should only be aggressive during the dip... Infact here are my exact thinking: Aggressiveness during dip is definitely a product of folks timing the market, which may not always be good since it could lead folks to miss out on their buying opportunities...Folks can very well be aggressive if they have enough discretionary income to do so, regardless of whether it is during the dip or not...

That's just it. Aggressiveness in the market doesn't only happen when there is a Dip. Aggressiveness happens anytime, and so guys can actually become aggressive in buying bitcoin if they have the enough money to do so regardless of the time, wether there is Dip or not.

For an example, an investor who has been buying bitcoin consistently with $50 -100 weekly or monthly. He happens to get note money, like making axtra income or gets extra income, he can decide to increase his DCAing amount to $150-180-200 as the case maybe. At this point, we can say he has become more aggressively involved at that point. So aggressiveness doesn't only come when there is a Dip, but it can come anytime

You are right that aggressive investment does not mean that you have to buy only from the dip. An investor can increase his investment amount at any time if his financial situation changes. That is, if his income increases, he can also increase his investment according to his ability. For investing in bitcoin we should move away from the idea that we have to invest aggressively just because there is a dip in the market. If someone starts investing more along with regular investment, then we can also consider that as aggressive investment. Those who are doing DCA will increase their amount according to their ability. The one who makes DCA of $200 regularly can increase his investment with his extra money of $50 or more according to the convenience.

Many investors may have a wrong idea about aggressive investment. Some of them may think that aggressive investment is only investing all the assets at once, while some may think that it is investing a large amount of money by borrowing or anything. But if an investor can invest regularly within his means and occasionally increase his investment slightly considering his financial situation, that can be called aggressive investing.