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[Gost ms]

In this situation I will not allocate the entire amount of funds for Bitcoin accumulation. I will allocate a large percentage of my discretionary income to Bitcoin and keep the remaining amount as a floating fund/reserve fund. I can use the excess amount of floating fund for additional expenses of my family as well as for aggressive Bitcoin buying during bearish periods. I actually keep a floating fund as well as regularly accumulation Bitcoin in the DCA method through this discretionary income.

I agree with you almost completely, but I am a little hesitant to agree with one thing, according to the current situation. Because the current price of Bitcoin is above $70,000, this is a very good time to buy DIP and a few days ago, the price of Bitcoin had dropped even more, which was a great time for an investor to buy aggressively. Currently, the Bitcoin market is going through a big decline, I can't say exactly, but according to my research, it is currently falling by 40% to 45%. If you wait for a much bigger decline during this big decline, then it will be nothing but foolishness.

The Bitcoin market is very volatile, it is impossible to say when it will happen in the market. So the amount of decline you are waiting for may never happen. Because the market is currently going through a big decline, if you don't buy aggressively at this time, you may never be able to buy aggressively. The decline is an unknown future that is not in your hands. It will never be the right decision to sit on something that is not in your control.

[Cgrexp]

Dollar Cost Averaging(DCA) to me is the most easiest strategy for new investors who are just starting out on their journey for accumulating bitcoin because it allows the buying of bitcoin continuously with the money one can afford to set aside.

Using DCA when price drop your money buy more bitcoin, when it rises it buy less bitcoin, but you are still  accumulating bitcoin, over time this strategy smooth out volatility and reduces emotional  stress of trying to time the market. The key to successfully DCA is discipline and consistency, focus on regular accumulation rather than short term price movement.

Not only for beginners, but the dollar cost averaging system is a very useful and popular investment method for investors of all levels. Because here you can buy Bitcoin at an average price, where there is no much pressure to invest. No matter how much the price of Bitcoin fluctuates, it enriches our portfolio.

The DCA strategy is not just limited to beginners both investors that has being into bitcoin investment for years are still accumulating bitcoin using DCA strategy. However when compared to other strategies it is beginners friendly since newbies can start out there investment with any amount and also they don't need to wait for a certain price before they can start buying.

The DCA strategy is designed for those who have been investing for years, not just those who are just starting out. Rather, DCA is suitable for every investor, who decides to hold on for a minimum of four years or more, they can definitely invest through the DCA strategy. DCA is a consistent strategy that is especially suitable for long-term holders. Those who think of profit through the strategy of buying and selling in the short term, most of the time they do not get the expected results but face unexpected losses, but if we can invest consistently, it creates better profit possibilities for us.

The DCA method is not only the consistent strategy in Bitcoin investment but rather it is always recommended because it allows the poor and the rich to accumulate regardless of the market condition. Secondly, an investor is the one that will make the strategy to be consistent by making sure discretionary income is kept and also emergency funds because these are major things that keeps our investing going smoothly with a positive mindset ( long term mindset) because some are always distracted by short term profit.

Bitcoin volatility can create both emotional and financial stress. The price sometimes rises and falls rapidly and it tests the patience and mental preparedness of the investor. However, if we consider this volatility as a predictable and known trend, then we can determine the size of our Bitcoin position and purchase plan accordingly. For example, let's say we buy small amounts of Bitcoin on a weekly basis. In such a situation, it may take 3-5 years or more to reach the profit of our holding. The unknown profit level and the adjustment to volatility during this period can create pressure, but it does not make Bitcoin investment bad or inappropriate. Historically, Bitcoin has given better results than many other investments when bought and held for 4-10 years or more. In particular, those who buy regularly and hold for the long term have been protected from the impact of small market fluctuations and have enjoyed the benefits of buying and holding. However, future results are not guaranteed. Having a time frame of 4-10 years does not guarantee that you will make a profit within a certain period of time. Weekly or regular purchases and long-term holding reduce the risk of volatility so this can be a very powerful strategy from a long-term investment perspective.

[Sulegzy39]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

[I_Anime]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

[Popkon6]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

In the current situation, it is a good idea to participate in Bitcoin investment through good planning and prudent income, as maintaining Bitcoin investment for a long time will definitely lead to more success. Because ideal investors invest in the Bitcoin DCA method, and those who invest following the Bitcoin DCA method have the highest chance of success. Because if you maintain the continuity of purchase in Bitcoin investment, you will definitely save on the purchase price.

[SatsPH]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

That's what I did in 2019, I just focus on accumulating and learning. Because during that time, I'm still in the learning process of it all. Like what is DCA and how effective it is and what wallet to used as it was preach that we should have total control of our BTC, wallet that we have the private key or seed phrase.

But I have a love and hate relationship with BTC to be honest. So last year I decided to go back and invest last April 1, 2025. So far so good for me, I do DCA and just invest what I can afford and so till now I'm holding it and continue to buy and save during this bear market.

[letteredhub]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

Some guys are focusing on the wrong deal and missing sight of the real deal which is long term aggressive accumulation which has to be done consistently without loosing focus by looking at what the price of bitcoin is doing currently. If as a newbie you continue to look at the market price manipulations you may never start to accumulate and, perhaps you start you may never be resilient and committed towards your long term plan. Basic knowledge of bitcoin has shown that a large returns on investment can only be obtained with a spread of years of accumulation and it's true by experiences throughout Bitcoin history.

[Gallar]

That's what I did in 2019, I just focus on accumulating and learning. Because during that time, I'm still in the learning process of it all. Like what is DCA and how effective it is and what wallet to used as it was preach that we should have total control of our BTC, wallet that we have the private key or seed phrase.

But I have a love and hate relationship with BTC to be honest. So last year I decided to go back and invest last April 1, 2025. So far so good for me, I do DCA and just invest what I can afford and so till now I'm holding it and continue to buy and save during this bear market.

Yes,, the points you mentioned are excellent, because focusing on Bitcoin accumulation and learning about it is certainly a strong foundation for becoming a successful Bitcoin investor. But I don't understand why you disliked Bitcoin after learning about it. Honestly, in my experience, the more we learn about Bitcoin,, the more convinced we are that this asset is truly powerful and has great potential for the future. So I don't understand why you hated Bitcoin and vacuumed it for a while.

If I may guess, there are several possible reasons why you hated Bitcoin. First, you tried trading in Bitcoin, or you bought Bitcoin and panicked and sold it when the price dropped. I think those two points could be the main reasons you disliked Bitcoin. But that's just my guess, and I don't think it's a problem because you're now back as a Bitcoin investor. And hopefully, you can be more consistent in your Bitcoin accumulation.

[JayJuanGee]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

I think that we have said this plenty of times, and it seems that the most important thing for newbies is to get their cashflow in order and to buy bitcoin at the same time, so yeah, they may well end up investing a whole cycle (4 years) while studying bitcoin at the same time, but the mot important thing will be building up both the bitcoin and perhaps the back up funds at around the same pace.. . and the more bitcoin is accumulated it might also become more clear about if any adjustments might need to be made.

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

In the current situation, it is a good idea to participate in Bitcoin investment through good planning and prudent income, as maintaining Bitcoin investment for a long time will definitely lead to more success. Because ideal investors invest in the Bitcoin DCA method, and those who invest following the Bitcoin DCA method have the highest chance of success. Because if you maintain the continuity of purchase in Bitcoin investment, you will definitely save on the purchase price.

What the fuck is "prudent income?" It is a vague and dumbass term.   If you are going to use such vague and dumbass term then you better explain what you mean.

Otherwise, and even better yet, don't use that dumb and vague description.

[The Founding Titan]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

[As-Soon-As]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

It is better not to mention those who are short-term investors, because it will confuse new investors. Those who hold Bitcoin at a low price are basically traders, so they are ruining their own future. So it is best not to mention such things because it can confuse newbies about their investment, Bitcoin investment is only long-term and those who have a long-term plan can become ideal Bitcoin investors.

[Olatundespo]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

It is good to buy more Bitcoin during a price drop, but waiting to buy more is not a good investment decision. Some people wait as I did at one point but it would be a foolish decision not to buy even if you have the funds. Many people do not know the difference between an investor and a trader, so they pretend to be investors even though they are short term traders. Long term investors are examples of those who can take their capital to an effective and correct position through patience. Discipline along with patient fund management is important for building a long term Bitcoin portfolio. And this discipline is a good quality through which a poor person can reach a good financial position.

[Rockstarguy]

Not only for beginners, but the dollar cost averaging system is a very useful and popular investment method for investors of all levels. Because here you can buy Bitcoin at an average price, where there is no much pressure to invest. No matter how much the price of Bitcoin fluctuates, it enriches our portfolio.

It is a good method for investing in Bitcoin, and as an investor or beginner, it is very important to understand which method will enable one to achieve success in Bitcoin investment.

 It is one of the methods of investing that makes investing in Bitcoin easy because the DCA method gives investors the opportunity to invest the amount they can afford. It also encourages consistency in buying Bitcoin, regardless of whether the price of Bitcoin is high. It provides an understanding that the reason for accumulating Bitcoin is to HODL.

[ChocolateBitcoinK]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

It is better not to mention those who are short-term investors, because it will confuse new investors. Those who hold Bitcoin at a low price are basically traders, so they are ruining their own future. So it is best not to mention such things because it can confuse newbies about their investment, Bitcoin investment is only long-term and those who have a long-term plan can become ideal Bitcoin investors.

There are many new investors who are attracted to short-term profits after entering the market, thinking that it is possible to make profits by buying and selling quickly. But this mentality only leads them to more losses quickly. They should understand that it is not easy to make profits in the short term by understanding the fluctuations of the market, and without experience or strong mental preparation, most people face losses. That is why a long-term view is much more realistic in the case of Bitcoin, because in this case, market volatility cannot affect us, and our holdings are formed at the long-term average price, so those who have the mentality of holding it patiently for a long time, regardless of all the risks of volatility, have a much higher chance of making profits in the long term.

[Showlove01]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

As newbie rather than focusing on the market , focus on your accumulation and learning too. Because despite that you are good to go with just having the basic knowledge of bitcoin. As time goes you will definitely need to keep expanding that knowledge inorder to build a better investment which may help you with the right principles to follow because investing in bitcoin with planning properly don’t usually ends well .

In the current situation, it is a good idea to participate in Bitcoin investment through good planning and prudent income, as maintaining Bitcoin investment for a long time will definitely lead to more success. Because ideal investors invest in the Bitcoin DCA method, and those who invest following the Bitcoin DCA method have the highest chance of success. Because if you maintain the continuity of purchase in Bitcoin investment, you will definitely save on the purchase price.

We don't need a Prudent Income to be able to invest in Bitcoin and have a good portfolio rather what is needed for our Bitcoin accumulation is discretionary income, every income is prudent but we should be specific on the funds or money to use for accumulating Bitcoin and secondly I disagree with you, the DCA method is not the only method with a higher chances of success but what determines our success in Bitcoin is our discretionary income because it is what gives room for accumulation and every other Bitcoin investment method is unique in there own way.

[SuperBitMan]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

It is better not to mention those who are short-term investors, because it will confuse new investors. Those who hold Bitcoin at a low price are basically traders, so they are ruining their own future. So it is best not to mention such things because it can confuse newbies about their investment, Bitcoin investment is only long-term and those who have a long-term plan can become ideal Bitcoin investors.

Yes, you are correct this thread is basically for longtime investors and mentioning trade in this thread we confuse some newbies who are in this thread, so it is proper we focus our attention on accumulating and holding for long term.
As-Soon-As, I would like to correct you on some things you are getting wrong here first of all those who are holding bitcoin at low price or holding small amount I believe that’s what you want to say are not traders, Bitcoin traders are those who accumulate bitcoin and then sell in a short period of time, and it’s very risky because of the lost you can experience, since bitcoin is volatile in nature.
And for the records, there are some people who are bitcoin traders and they’re making good amount of money from it so it’s not as if it is very bad for people to do just that it’s more risky than holding for long term. And I will always advise people to accumulate and hold for long term it’s saver.

[Cossyblack]

There are many new investors who are attracted to short-term profits after entering the market, thinking that it is possible to make profits by buying and selling quickly. But this mentality only leads them to more losses quickly. They should understand that it is not easy to make profits in the short term by understanding the fluctuations of the market, and without experience or strong mental preparation, most people face losses. That is why a long-term view is much more realistic in the case of Bitcoin, because in this case, market volatility cannot affect us, and our holdings are formed at the long-term average price, so those who have the mentality of holding it patiently for a long time, regardless of all the risks of volatility, have a much higher chance of making profits in the long term.

That's not true,traders are the ones who buy and sell bitcoin for short term profits. They time the market to buy bitcoin at a low rate and sell sell it when the price rises to make quick profit. Real investors do not buy bitcoin and sell it for minimal gains,they hold for the long term. investors don't aims at making cheap profit instead they aiming for significant profits by holding bitcoin which is a common goal/ tradition among investors.
My point is, buying and selling of bitcoin is a common tradition amony traders which is a different mentality from that of a long term investor. An investor mindset is to buy and hold so people who buy and sell their bitcoin for quick profit aren't investors but traders.

[PhilosopherKing]

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

people that wait for dip until they can buy and sell when price recover really think they are the smarter than investors that ongoingly invest in bitcoin. If only those lot knew the kind of risk they are gambling with.

Those lot that chase after dip only want quick money that is not certain, but there is more to bitcoin than just quick money.

If they can quit obsessing over quick money and position themselves to ongoingly invest for multiple cycles they would know that bitcoin can produce wealth and position them in a very comfortable position

[Saltysugar99]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

To me, the real difference is the mindset of a trader and an investor. An investor buys with money that he can hold for 4–10 years or more, and he knows that volatility is part of Bitcoin. A trader wants to get short-term moves. This Two things are different . Being a trader is a personal problem, but talking like an investor as a trader can lead newbies in the wrong direction. Because then newbies think that dip waiting and quick selling are smart investing. In reality, most newbies stop regular buying while waiting for the dip. And if the market doesn't wait for them, they buy in worse time. Then sell again for a small profit. This cycle is very common but very few people admit it. Not all wanting to buy dips is the same. If someone continues baseline DCA, and with it, keeps some extra cash for dip buys. That is a completely different matter. That is not trader behavior. That can be an extension of investor behavior. But if someone does not do regular accumulation. Just tries to be a dip hero. Then he is basically in a trading mentality. And if you sell after a little recovery, it is not coin accumulation, it is dollar extraction. That is not the language of an investor.

A person who can buy continuously, can manage backup funds and does not base his whole plan on short-term price moves has the right to be called an investor. And a person who always talks about a dip, but does not know when the dip will come, how dip it will be and sells at a little profit is a trader even if he doesn’t want to admit it. The problem is teaching newbies the wrong framework.

[barisbilgili]

people that wait for dip until they can buy and sell when price recover really think they are the smarter than investors that ongoingly invest in bitcoin. If only those lot knew the kind of risk they are gambling with.

Those lot that chase after dip only want quick money that is not certain, but there is more to bitcoin than just quick money.

If they can quit obsessing over quick money and position themselves to ongoingly invest for multiple cycles they would know that bitcoin can produce wealth and position them in a very comfortable position

It is already a rule that risk is always proportional to the potential profit to be gained, but in Bitcoin investment, there are other perspectives that should also be considered, and people like the ones you mentioned are very numerous, and I am sure that most of them are beginners who are afraid of losing money and want quick profits, and some of them are even greedy. However, someday these people will realize this when they experience losses, and indeed it cannot be denied that investing in Bitcoin for the long term is a very good choice and the potential profits are very large.