Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[PhilosopherKing]

Short term investors are always into short term investment because they don't have the ability to invest for a long term, they feel their money is being trapped.and scared that  they will lose it at any slightest decline in the price of bitcoin and cannot yield them good profit or feels it is the same as compared to  long term investment, that is the misconception they have, also some of they used loans for investment with interest which they can't go for long term because the interest will be accumulating.

Those who talk about short term investment I think are not actually real investors, they are traders. Therefore, there is a significant strategic difference between trading and long term investment. If trading strategies are applied to long term investing then it becomes almost equivalent to gambling.

Moreover, those who take loans with interest and invest that money are in an even more dangerous position, because no one can be certain when the market will rise or fall. However, the interest on the loan must still be paid whether there is profit or loss. Because of this constant pressure, the probability of making wrong decisions in trading or investing becomes extremely high. For this reason investing with borrowed money with interest should be avoided. If someone wants to invest in Bitcoin, it is safer to have a long term plan, remain patient and regularly invest by following the DCA strategy.

short term investment is a vague concept. anything that is lower than a 4 years is trading, so I wonder why that dude was calling it short term investing when it is just trading.

Anyone that can't keep their head straight because of their obsession over the little profit they will make with volatility are bunch of traders, there is no two ways about that.

If the loan cannot be afforded to be used for long time and there is no means to repay the loan they guys should stays the as far as they can from loans. Loans are not discretionary income.

[yixichloro2xx]

When it dumps, thats the time to buy and wait for it to go back up and reach a certain threshold to sell.

What if the price never dump so you will not ongoingly invest huh? Dude the best time to ongoingly invest is when you have discretionary income that can be use. So fuck having to wait for dump price.

The price of bitcoin is hard to predict when it will dump or pump and so if you keep waiting for price to dump that will be a very dumb decision because you can keep staying a NO-COINER the more you stay waiting.

Just hold it until your 60 or something when it reaches $1,000,000 per btc.

Dude there is no benchmark for investing ongoingly. People can keep ongoingly investing even after they are 60 years.

I get tired of people who keep claiming that they plan on waiting for a DIP, buying during the DIP and then selling once the price recovers and still have the guts to call themselves investor, first off they are traders and beyond that there is nothing smart about deciding to wait for a DIP that you don't know might happen when you could have just been continuously investing the whole time, if a person is a trader they should call themselves traders and not try to confuse newbie investors into thinking waiting for a dip before buying and selling right after making a bit of profit is an investor's thing to do because it is not, a true investor will not wait for a DIP first before buying and will not sell immediately they get a slight sense of profit.

Everyone who always waits for a dip usually regrets it in the end because they don't always get their target price. Many even end up accumulating Bitcoin at a higher price because they never get the price they planned for.In fact, I have seen many people who lost the opportunity to invest in Bitcoin in the past just because they wanted the price to drop to their target before buying. But to be honest, some people never buy until now because every time they keep waiting for a dip, which is not always possible since the price of Bitcoin is unpredictable.Even recently, some people saw when Bitcoin's price hit a low point, but they refused to buy because they were expecting an even bigger dip. Now they are starting to regret why they did not buy during that period.If care is not taken, that is how they will continue regretting it, while forgetting this is  another opportunity to buy now.

It is better they accumulate at higher price than not accumulating at all  and waiting for the Dip is not advisable because the Dip is what we can not tell when it will happen and the level it will go even if it does come and sometimes the level at which it will dip can make some people who are not serious enough not to invest. It is good and advisable to accumulate little by little using the DCA method and consistency will give a good result.

Agreed, if you accumulate through the regular DCA method, you can buy at the lowest price and the highest price. It never wastes the good times of the market, at least for those who think that there are bad times or good times in the market. But in reality, there is no such thing as good or bad times when it comes to investing in Bitcoin for the long term. If someone can manage long-term investment with patience and according to the right plan, then Bitcoin can be the most valuable asset of the era. So rather than accumulating at all to catch the dip, regular investment in small amounts through the DCA method is the most effective, easy, safe and verified accumulation strategy, believe it or not.

Well many people understand the concept of DCA, but sticking to it, is where the problem is. consistency is one their major issue. Bitcoin is very volatile, so it's can change anytime. During those price changes especially the bearish period many people stopped buying because they felt uncertain about the market and we also have others who abandon DCA just to wait and buy the dip which might not even near their target. So these types of investors buy Bitcoin as a result of their weak emotions. Someone who uses DCA consistently won't be dealing with this kinds of pressure.
‎
‎

[AYOBA]

Well many people understand the concept of DCA, but sticking to it, is where the problem is. consistency is one their major issue. Bitcoin is very volatile, so it's can change anytime. During those price changes especially the bearish period many people stopped buying because they felt uncertain about the market and we also have others who abandon DCA just to wait and buy the dip which might not even near their target. So these types of investors buy Bitcoin as a result of their weak emotions. Someone who uses DCA consistently won't be dealing with this kinds of pressure.
‎

That’s the main problem of people sticking to DCA is what most of the people’s find difficult and in this life consistency is the key to everything, but something are seeing DCA method as nothing they don’t know that is the one that helping allots of the investors now. Especially those that don’t have enough capital to start up the investment, ever since this DCA strategy started it became more easier to invest.

So many people feel uncertain about the Bitcoin market because of how the Bitcoin price is fluctuating all this while, but for me changing of the Bitcoin anytime can stop me from buying more of the Bitcoin. Because has become best coin all over the world; and that’s I always have hope for it that in future it can go higher than our expectations.

[Silikiem]

Constantly monitoring the Bitcoin price by new investors might lead to disappointment; instead, they should buy constantly regardless of whether the price is rising or falling. Investors without market experience may panic and sell prematurely during a dip when they check the value of their Bitcoin in USD, believing that they are losing capital quickly.

The Bitcoin market is quite turbulent, it is hard to anticipate when it will happen in the market. So the amount of drop you are waiting for may never come. Because the market is currently experiencing a significant downturn, if you do not buy aggressively now, you may never be able to buy aggressively again. The fall represents an unpredictable future that you cannot control. Sitting on something over which you have no control is never the proper decision.

BTC price movements are difficult to predict, so it's better to just buy BTC without checking whether it's dropping. Yes, sometimes new investors always want to buy BTC when it's dropping, but I don't think that's 100% wrong. Sometimes we wait too long for the BTC price to drop, and sometimes we don't buy, for example, because the BTC price is rising.

Yes, as a new and inexperienced investor, sometimes we panic when we see the BTC price drop, but it's just a trick, because ultimately, BTC always makes a new ATH. Currently, I think BTC is on sale, although we don't know where the BTC price will go—whether it will drop further or rise again. However, investing in BTC is certainly full of challenges and tests our patience.

You may be thinking that it is not 100% wrong for newbies to always want to buy BTC when the price is dropping until they get fully addicted to it. If newbie should start with this mindset of waiting until the price drops before they start buying bitcoin then they are starting on a very negative trajectory which is not good for their long term investment aim because they will end up as traders and no longer investors. It is advisable that newbies who just got started and haven’t accumulated a reasonable or decent amount of bitcoin to their portfolio shouldn’t wait until the price drops before they buy bitcoin, they don’t have any business waiting for the dip before they can buy bitcoin, it is advisable they buy regularly with the DCA method so as to get them accustomed to the long term investment mindset so they won’t fall off easily along the line. Their focus should be on figuring out a discretionary income no matter how small so they can be accumulating regularly and hold to enable them gradually build up their portfolio, if they should want to buy only when the price drop its going to take them time and they might end up not even buying bitcoin for themselves because the can’t predict when it will drop, bitcoin is very volatile and waiting for price drop is under probability as the dip may or might not occur. So instead of them to wait for a price they are not sure of or in control of it will be wise if they start off buying with the DCA at any market price with just a discretionary income and hold for long term goal.

[Kelward]

Well many people understand the concept of DCA, but sticking to it, is where the problem is. consistency is one their major issue. Bitcoin is very volatile, so it's can change anytime. During those price changes especially the bearish period many people stopped buying because they felt uncertain about the market and we also have others who abandon DCA just to wait and buy the dip which might not even near their target. So these types of investors buy Bitcoin as a result of their weak emotions. Someone who uses DCA consistently won't be dealing with this kinds of pressure.
‎

That’s the main problem of people sticking to DCA is what most of the people’s find difficult and in this life consistency is the key to everything, but something are seeing DCA method as nothing they don’t know that is the one that helping allots of the investors now. Especially those that don’t have enough capital to start up the investment, ever since this DCA strategy started it became more easier to invest.

So many people feel uncertain about the Bitcoin market because of how the Bitcoin price is fluctuating all this while, but for me changing of the Bitcoin anytime can stop me from buying more of the Bitcoin. Because has become best coin all over the world; and that’s I always have hope for it that in future it can go higher than our expectations.

DCA strategy has proven beyond doubt that it is the best strategy for consistent buying of an asset like Bitcoin which is volatile because on the long term it has potentials to reach ATH. I've seen where it was suggested that swapping your Bitcoin to stablecoins like USDT during dip is a good strategy so that further dip wouldn't reduce the value of your Bitcoin, you will keep buying and swapping until there is an uptrend where you will swap everything back to Bitcoin. But the strategy is mostly suited for traders that plans to sell within short period of time, for very long term investors it can be a distraction because if price continues to dump they could panic and stop buying. If you are for Bitcoin long term investment you should choose DCA strategy and focus on buying without minding minding what the current price is.

[Obulis]

I totally agree with you on the point of starting small. The plan should be to make it habitual, so it becomes part of one financial routine. And by using DCA it help to smooth out price valotility.
It is also important that one try as much as possible to trim his expenses in order to save money it could cooking at home rather than eating out. This can help to save money to be use in purchasing more bitcoin or one can equally add it to his emergency fund. In for one to successfully accumulate and hold bitcoin for the long term it requires discipline  and patience, because investing isn't in quick gain but in long term growth.

It is more important to think about increasing income rather than reducing expenses. Because as time passes, your responsibilities will increase and your expenses will increase. You will not be able to reduce the necessary expenses. And apart from going out to eat, there are many types of pleasant activities where even if you spend money, it gives you mental peace. A person needs everything. There some expenses by fulfilling your family needs, doing your own entertainment, engaging yourself in social activities, after all these expenses, if you have extra money, then you can start investing in Bitcoin with that discretionary income. And if discretionary income is not generated, then focus on increasing income sources.

It's not financial management to say that It is more important to think about increasing income rather than reducing expenses. Sometimes, it is because of lack of financial management/reducing expenses that some people can't invest in Bitcoin in the first place before thinking of building extra source of income (that's they can't invest in Bitcoin or build extra source of income because of lack of financial management or lack of reducing some expenses). These statement can only be after self financial analysis. Finding out or knowing that your income is not enough no matter how you manage it, then thinking of increasing income becomes the only Paramount thing to think about.

[SmartCharpa]

That’s the main problem of people sticking to DCA is what most of the people’s find difficult and in this life consistency is the key to everything, but something are seeing DCA method as nothing they don’t know that is the one that helping allots of the investors now. Especially those that don’t have enough capital to start up the investment, ever since this DCA strategy started it became more easier to invest.

So many people feel uncertain about the Bitcoin market because of how the Bitcoin price is fluctuating all this while, but for me changing of the Bitcoin anytime can stop me from buying more of the Bitcoin. Because has become best coin all over the world; and that’s I always have hope for it that in future it can go higher than our expectations.

You must be consistency in everything you do to achieve success. Using the DCA does not guaranteed success without being consistent with your accumulation. Every successful investor who inspired us today have been consistent during their accumulation journey, the DCA helps us to set amount of money we can afford to buy all the time, as an investor who stick to it plan, already know the amount set aside to invest either weekly or monthly.

Perhaps you mean changing in price cannot stop you from investing in Bitcoin. However, anyone who stop buying only because there is changing in price are not ready to invest from the beginning, and maybe they assume Bitcoin price always go up without seeing any dips in the market. And as a real investor we must experience both sides in this journey.

[The Founding Titan]

That’s the main problem of people sticking to DCA is what most of the people’s find difficult and in this life consistency is the key to everything, but something are seeing DCA method as nothing they don’t know that is the one that helping allots of the investors now. Especially those that don’t have enough capital to start up the investment, ever since this DCA strategy started it became more easier to invest.

So many people feel uncertain about the Bitcoin market because of how the Bitcoin price is fluctuating all this while, but for me changing of the Bitcoin anytime can stop me from buying more of the Bitcoin. Because has become best coin all over the world; and that’s I always have hope for it that in future it can go higher than our expectations.

You must be consistency in everything you do to achieve success. Using the DCA does not guaranteed success without being consistent with your accumulation. Every successful investor who inspired us today have been consistent during their accumulation journey, the DCA helps us to set amount of money we can afford to buy all the time, as an investor who stick to it plan, already know the amount set aside to invest either weekly or monthly.

Perhaps you mean changing in price cannot stop you from investing in Bitcoin. However, anyone who stop buying only because there is changing in price are not ready to invest from the beginning, and maybe they assume Bitcoin price always go up without seeing any dips in the market. And as a real investor we must experience both sides in this journey.

Nothing guarantees success in bitcoin investment, not even DCA, because investing in bitcoin itself has risks attached to it but while DCA doesn't guarantee success it improves your chances of being successful in bitcoin investment since it ensures that you don't have to worry about the price of bitcoin before buying and price changes in either direction won't stop you from continuously investing if you are using the DCA, the only thing that can stop your investment is the unavailability of discretionary income and if you decide to stop investing yourself.

[Saltysugar99]

You must be consistency in everything you do to achieve success. Using the DCA does not guaranteed success without being consistent with your accumulation. Every successful investor who inspired us today have been consistent during their accumulation journey, the DCA helps us to set amount of money we can afford to buy all the time, as an investor who stick to it plan, already know the amount set aside to invest either weekly or monthly.

Perhaps you mean changing in price cannot stop you from investing in Bitcoin. However, anyone who stop buying only because there is changing in price are not ready to invest from the beginning, and maybe they assume Bitcoin price always go up without seeing any dips in the market. And as a real investor we must experience both sides in this journey.

Consistency is very important, but it cannot be said in a way that everyone's income, expenses, and cashflow are the same. In reality, it is not. Some people's salary is fixed, some freelance income is irregular, some business income is seasonally up-down, and some expenses also change from month to month. For this reason, setting a fixed amount and then always doing DCA with the same amount is not practical for everyone. It may work for some people, but if you make a rule for everyone, beginners will misunderstand.

The real thing here is not fixed amount, but fixed discipline. I mean, you have to have a rule, but that rule should be such that it matches your real life. If someone has a regular salary job, it is easy for him to do a weekly or monthly set amount DCA. But if someone's income is irregular, like $700 one month, $1300 the next month, $400 the next month, then how will he run the same fixed amount? He will take stress, eventually stop buying. So a better approach for people with irregular income is percentage based or range based DCA. For example, a portion of the discretionary income that remains after basic expenses and emergency allocations are eliminated will go towards BTC accumulation. If there is more in a month, it will be more, if there is less, it will be less. This makes Bitcoin accumulation possible according to a realistic plan.

[Joeboy]

These statement can only be after self financial analysis. Finding out or knowing that your income is not enough no matter how you manage it, then thinking of increasing income becomes the only Paramount thing to think about.

I dont agree with you... The priority of majority of investors is to get more discretionary income so they can either increase their investments amounts and(or) build some backup funds/or emergency funds... But I don't think folks can really achieve this if they only focus on just increasing their Income, without equally reducing irrelevant expenses... I think the paramount thing to do should be the balance of both... That is they should look for ways to increase their income and also reduce irrelevant expenses, so they can have more discretionary income....

[Frankolala]

The real thing here is not fixed amount, but fixed discipline. I mean, you have to have a rule, but that rule should be such that it matches your real life. If someone has a regular salary job, it is easy for him to do a weekly or monthly set amount DCA. But if someone's income is irregular, like $700 one month, $1300 the next month, $400 the next month, then how will he run the same fixed amount? He will take stress, eventually stop buying. So a better approach for people with irregular income is percentage based or range based DCA. For example, a portion of the discretionary income that remains after basic expenses and emergency allocations are eliminated will go towards BTC accumulation. If there is more in a month, it will be more, if there is less, it will be less. This makes Bitcoin accumulation possible according to a realistic plan.

Even if your income is fixed, you wouldn't still be able to use a fixed amount of money from your discretionary income to invest into bitcoin regularly every week/month only if the person choose to accumulate bitcoin in a wimpish pattern. This is because our needs and monthly expenses varies from month to month and that will definitely, affect your discretionary income.

Some months your expenses will be higher and your discretionary income lower which will definitely affect how much you are putting into bitcoin for that week and vice versa. Just keep your bitcoin accumulation ongoingly for 4-10 years and above whether your discretionary income is fixed or not.

[Tmoonz]

These statement can only be after self financial analysis. Finding out or knowing that your income is not enough no matter how you manage it, then thinking of increasing income becomes the only Paramount thing to think about.

I dont agree with you... The priority of majority of investors is to get more discretionary income so they can either increase their investments amounts and(or) build some backup funds/or emergency funds... But I don't think folks can really achieve this if they only focus on just increasing their Income, without equally reducing irrelevant expenses... I think the paramount thing to do should be the balance of both... That is they should look for ways to increase their income and also reduce irrelevant expenses, so they can have more discretionary income....

Don't you think that you guys are saying the same thing? Whether anyone is reducing irrelevant expenses or not it should be paramount to think in the direction of increasing your discretionary income as much as you can and when you can and whichever way you can this is what is paramount and it doesn't necessarily matter how you do it, for some people there is no such thing as irrelevant expenses all expenses they do are irrelevant and of course according to their pressing needs with a good scale of preference, note that in most cases what might be irrelevant to you might be relevant to the next person, what is most important is increasing your discretionary income in any way you can.

[Sarah_Jannat42]

short term investment is a vague concept. anything that is lower than a 4 years is trading, so I wonder why that dude was calling it short term investing when it is just trading.

Anyone that can't keep their head straight because of their obsession over the little profit they will make with volatility are bunch of traders, there is no two ways about that.

If the loan cannot be afforded to be used for long time and there is no means to repay the loan they guys should stays the as far as they can from loans. Loans are not discretionary income.

The concept of short-term investment is associated with trading. But I think investing in Bitcoin should definitely be on a long-term basis. Do those who cannot control themselves in the market volatility actually have any need to invest in Bitcoin?

[Gost ms]

The concept of short-term investment is associated with trading. But I think investing in Bitcoin should definitely be on a long-term basis. Do those who cannot control themselves in the market volatility actually have any need to invest in Bitcoin?

For someone who cannot control himself in a market downturn, not investing will never be the right decision. For someone who cannot control himself, it is necessary to gain knowledge, gaining knowledge can bring a person from an uncontrolled state to a controlled state. For example, I can give you an example on this subject, if you have a headache, then cutting off your head will never be the right decision, but it is better to find out what you can do to avoid headaches and what measures you can take to protect yourself from headaches.

Through gaining knowledge, a person can take control of himself. How much knowledge is needed to build trust in Bitcoin, it completely depends on him. So, do not stop investing, gain knowledge and build trust in Bitcoin

[As-Soon-As]

If the loan cannot be afforded to be used for long time and there is no means to repay the loan they guys should stays the as far as they can from loans. Loans are not discretionary income.

The concept of short-term investment is associated with trading. But I think investing in Bitcoin should definitely be on a long-term basis. Do those who cannot control themselves in the market volatility actually have any need to invest in Bitcoin?

We invest in Bitcoin for the long term, we will never think about short girls. Hearing that we have not given a long term Bitcoin plan and future, those who invest in short term Bitcoin will be attracted to long term investors. So we cannot push anyone carelessly, we hold Bitcoin for the long term by following logic and strategy and future plans. So we will definitely present this plan to a short term investor, they will definitely establish a relationship with long term Bitcoin holding.