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March 14, 2024, 09:54:52 AM
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China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
The Russia and Ukraine war did even impacted economy globally and how much more if these two big countries clash? Not sure about the market going up or by that means that things are going to get ready in becoming more expensive.

But both are members of the BRICS right? I think that this alliance is nonsense if China is going to be sparring all of the potential competitor that they have for every dispute that they're also part of.

We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC.
USD has strong demand but what's the connection of the stable coins with it? Because they're also US dollars?

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March 14, 2024, 10:03:42 AM
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We have always noticed a bad relationship between India and China. India helps a lot of countries it doesn't want to help, and China has developed good diplomatic relations with most Asian countries. But China and India are two developed countries and the economic condition of these two countries is quite good. China is not interested in fighting but they are interested in improving the economic status of their country. China will not make their economic situation worse by war but at that time they will establish diplomatic relations with some other country and they will do business with that country. If a war between China and India were to occur for any reason, the global economy would be severely affected, but the chances of such a thing happening are very low. They may have bad relations but they will never engage in war.

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March 14, 2024, 10:25:03 AM
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Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive.
Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates.
Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast.
This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine.
We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid.
Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world.
Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing.
China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
So far I have never heard of China having a conflict with India, even in the international media we have never heard of this issue. So provide us with a credible source to support your statement. Because it concerns economic problems, every country does not always depend on imports if it is still able to produce using local goods. I know that Chinese and Indian products have become commonplace on the market, but that doesn't mean these products have become basic necessities. Our clothes, food and shelter can still be produced domestically. So the issue of war between China and India never existed because these two countries have built cooperation and also entered a serious stage in adopting the BRICS common currency.

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March 14, 2024, 02:11:01 PM
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You're drawing a picture of global economic dominoes collapsing one by one. A China-India confrontation might affect commodities, the stock market, and even BTC. The Fed, ECB, and BoE cutting rates in response? This is a rash response to a complex issue

True juice is in the undercurrents. Shipping prices could rise, but what does it mean for market observers and participants? It's about adaptation and creativity, not just increased costs. Chaos brings opportunity. The long-term impact of market reactions on global trade dynamics is the question

BTC and stablecoins like USDT, USDC? Their adoption may rise, but don't oversimplify. The dollar's strength and cryptocurrencies are part of a wider picture. Picture that makes us think beyond the obvious and question the stories that are being sold. You say markets will rise?

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March 14, 2024, 03:23:47 PM
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I read from page one but no one gave a source about the development of the conflict between India and China, the news that I got the latest was last posted in December, and I haven't found the latest news again, anyone want to help me find a reference. Huh

BTW we know that India and China are included in the BRICS union, and I think they will find the best solution for both without any prolonged conflict, because if BRICS breaks up it will benefit the US union and it will definitely be realized by China and Russia.

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March 14, 2024, 03:27:37 PM
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Another list of unsubstantiated claims by the op in the original post. China and India aren't great friends, but they're also not enemies. They interact with each other, they share a region, and while the op is talking about the US relations with India, the US also has strong economic ties with China. There are some tensions between China and India, but I don't think they're enough to actually consider a potential war between the two. I've seen some articles about their border dispute and India's unhappiness with Chinese maps, but articles from reputable sources are from 2022 and 2023, without any major changes that could lead to escalation in 2024.

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March 14, 2024, 04:32:37 PM
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Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive.
Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates.
Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast.
This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine.
We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid.
Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world.
Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing.
China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
Also Since India own currency fall i guess blackrock is ready to start sell btc to India and to china.
Both have huge population the china and india and If from starting the btc adoption and USDT USDC adoption to get btc then it can move the markets like grazy.
We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC.
Everything comes together exacly timing.

I am not updated on the tensions that are happening now in the countries of India and China; this is the only thing I found on a Google search about that matter:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/india-china-locked-in-war-of-words-over-arunachal-pradesh-region/3162275, but hopefully the tension that is happening now will not worsen.

We know that when that happens and there is another war, there will be many countries that are close to it, and it will have a bad effect on that matter.



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This topic may have as well been created due to recent activity by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) which carried out a live fire exercise showcasing an advanced surface-to-air missile system in the Karkorum plateau across from Eastern Ladakh. It is in this region that China and India have been locked in a military stand-off since 2020.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-india-xinjiang-live-fire-border-tension-military-1879108

These countries have one present and future economic interest of which they play a major role and that would help countries with poor exchange rates if they join. That is the BRICS currency initiative which they belong to and are well invested in to see it as realization. There won't be a war because they are working towards creating a new world order of which the BRICS currency, the Yen is the currency for trading and payments for transactions without reliance on the U.S dollar. 

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Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive.
Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates.
Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast.
This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine.
We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid.
Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world.
Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing.
China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
Also Since India own currency fall i guess blackrock is ready to start sell btc to India and to china.
Both have huge population the china and india and If from starting the btc adoption and USDT USDC adoption to get btc then it can move the markets like grazy.
We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC.
Everything comes together exacly timing.

That China, in the near future, may need a "small victorious war" is almost a fact. It is one of the options to distract the Chinese population from the growing problems inside China. But the problem is that India is not a whipping boy. India is not inferior to China, and it is supported by the West, with which China is purposely sabotaging relations. And China will not get involved in a war with India, as the chances of victory are extremely low. And the Chinese Communist Party is most afraid of losing power and "empire". Therefore, China will look for other countries more suitable for such a scenario. And it should be a country that is obviously weaker and does not have wide support.

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What are you talking man? You straight went to the conclusion of war, but India is one country that has mastered the mind games and political agendas. They will never ever bring it down to the point where they have to break out a war. If India-China war happens, then it could ingest world war 3 easily. India has strongest allies from Asia and Western hemisphere. Russia will obviously back up India, USA will back India because they are already in tension with China. The FED's wont just cut down the rates just like that, because that is not how it works mate. The speculation is entirely wrong. They will either come to an agreement or else China will have to step down considering India's own military asset and back up countries.
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Russia will obviously back up India
I don't think so. In case of choosing between India and China, Russia would probably not make any choice at all because they depend on both specially China. The more the Russian war against NATO goes on the more they'll rely on China for their economy, technology or even military stuff (arms and ammunition).

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They have been rivals for quite a time now and that's normal in recent times. The conflict over different issues have never led to war between them but it could be a possibility nowadays. The USA is losing its power due to the major setback by Russia in Ukraine even in this sector they are losing it due to china.

The giant india is being developed and fed by the USA to be their right hand in this area and if the tussle continues the USA will use India in the situation instead of coming up from the front they'll play at the back as their history tells us.

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An armed conflict between India and China is unlikely and I'll give you 3 reasons for it:
1. The "disagreements" between the two countries have existed for a long time (like about certain areas between the two countries and borders, etc.) and it has never led to any major conflicts. In other words India has a much higher chance of going to war with Pakistan than with China.
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Dear if India starts a war with Pakistan what do you think what will happen? If this happens china will probably be involved in this war from the side of Pakistan. Pakistan has a strong relationship with China and China has invested a lot of money in Pakistan. their biggest Project in Pakistan Is "CPEC" If this project successfully completed both countries will have a lot of advantages of it. China Shipping Costs will be reduced because of this project they will not have to travel a big giant sea for their importing their country needs CPEC will help them all that way to reduce that cost.

Some Days ago, I was listening to a piece of news that mentioned that now these days India is bothering the project and does not want the completion of this project. Actually, the thing is that we Pakistan and Indian people like each other and respect each other as well but the negative thing is that the border army, government, and social media play their bad role in spreading negativity to increase the conflicts between these two countries (Pakistan & India)

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Russia will obviously back up India
I don't think so. In case of choosing between India and China, Russia would probably not make any choice at all because they depend on both specially China. The more the Russian war against NATO goes on the more they'll rely on China for their economy, technology or even military stuff (arms and ammunition).


Sorry, but can I get a little clarification from you - tell me which NATO country is Russia waging war against? I haven’t heard anything about the Russia-NATO conflict. Well, or explain when NATO attacked Russia, or Russia attacked a NATO country? Smiley
Russia is really waging a terrorist war against Ukraine - but where did you get the idea that Ukraine is a NATO member?

Or is this again a consequence of the effects of the miracle leaves? Smiley

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Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive.
Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates.
Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast.
This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine.
We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid.
Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world.
Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing.
China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
Also Since India own currency fall i guess blackrock is ready to start sell btc to India and to china.
Both have huge population the china and india and If from starting the btc adoption and USDT USDC adoption to get btc then it can move the markets like grazy.
We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC.
Everything comes together exacly timing.

These two countries have had skirmishes in the past, but they are not going to have a full scale war because it would be devastating to both of them economically. The leaders may use these skirmishes to score the odd political points, but it's always going to be incredibly messy and unpredictable for two giants to fight, so unless we got much more foolish politicians than we have now, they will find calmer ways to resolve disputes. Both countries have other areas where they are concentrating on right now and don't have the need to escalate it further.

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Sorry, but can I get a little clarification from you - tell me which NATO country is Russia waging war against? I haven’t heard anything about the Russia-NATO conflict. Well, or explain when NATO attacked Russia, or Russia attacked a NATO country? Smiley

russia seen eastern ukraine as the safety barrier to keep nato away from russia's borders.

its why russia wanted to take that eastern region and declare it an independent state (no mans land) to keep that buffer space to keep nato/EU at arms length so that russia does not need to defend it endlessly forever

ukraine has been trying to join EU and nato since 2014.. threatening russia at that border should ukraine join the west

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funny part is.. nato/EU didnt let ukraine join in 2014+ due to the stakes at risk of that same eastern region.. yep even nato/eu wanted ukraine to turn over that eastern region to a independent state to create a no mans land.. but ukraine wants to keep it as part of ukraine and wont give it up no matter who is asking them to from either side

its these reasons nato/EU are not just letting ukraine just join them. to then allow nato/eu armies to drive into ukraine to defend the eastern side.. because eu/nato dont want the eastern side. they dont want the headache, cost, time defending that border forever

from a moral side countries will do trade deals and donations to support defending central ukraine. as thats the moral thing.. but when it comes to the eastern region of ukraine. russia and EU want it to become an independent state (for logic of defence, cost and peace process)

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There won't be any war Like OP expecting between India and China cause both nations having issues with their borders for decades and India already making some moves like banning their apps, banning their investors.

China is having biggest military system compared to India doesn't mean they will fall and already No country doesn't want to mess with both India and China for obvious reasons.
If there is a war, it will most likely be between China and the United States. This depends on many factors, including the conditions for the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war. But we see that these states are trying not to create hotbeds of tension and are finding ways of contact and even concessions to each other. A war between them is possible when China decides to take over Taiwan.

A war between China and India is generally unlikely. Between these countries with the largest population there are not such big conflicts as to throw into battle, if not billions, then tens and hundreds of millions of their soldiers and mobilized ones. Moreover, now war is more technologically advanced and very expensive. This was shown by the practice of Russia's attack on Ukraine. They must understand that having started a war among themselves, as in the case of a possible war between the United States and China, they will certainly eventually come out of it exhausted and their competitors will take advantage of this.

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Sorry, but can I get a little clarification from you - tell me which NATO country is Russia waging war against? I haven’t heard anything about the Russia-NATO conflict. Well, or explain when NATO attacked Russia, or Russia attacked a NATO country? Smiley

russia seen eastern ukraine as the safety barrier to keep nato away from russia's borders.

its why russia wanted to take that eastern region and declare it an independent state (no mans land) to keep that buffer space to keep nato/EU at arms length so that russia does not need to defend it endlessly forever

ukraine has been trying to join EU and nato since 2014.. threatening russia at that border should ukraine join the west

..
funny part is.. nato/EU didnt let ukraine join in 2014+ due to the stakes at risk of that same eastern region.. yep even nato/eu wanted ukraine to turn over that eastern region to a independent state to create a no mans land.. but ukraine wants to keep it as part of ukraine and wont give it up no matter who is asking them to from either side

its these reasons nato/EU are not just letting ukraine just join them. to then allow nato/eu armies to drive into ukraine to defend the eastern side.. because eu/nato dont want the eastern side. they dont want the headache, cost, time defending that border forever

from a moral side countries will do trade deals and donations to support defending central ukraine. as thats the moral thing.. but when it comes to the eastern region of ukraine. russia and EU want it to become an independent state (for logic of defence, cost and peace process)


Yeah, well now everything becomes clear. No offense, your misconception is becoming clear, and now I’ll explain what it is.
In 2014, until February, the PRO-RUSSIAN President Yanukovych was in power in Ukraine. The question is - do you think they initiated at least a dialogue about Ukraine joining NATO? Smiley
Let me also remind you that the invasion of the country of international terrorist Russia into Ukraine began in February... 2014, in fact on the same day when Yanukovych cowardly fled from Ukraine. Do you think Ukraine made the decision to join NATO in 24 hours? And agreed on this issue by preparing a legislative framework? Smiley

The first legislative article, about PLANS for reforming the standards of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to NATO standards, as well as the beginning of a dialogue about the POTENTIAL accession of Ukraine to NATO, appeared only... at the end of 2018! When Russia had annexed Crimea for 4 years and temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine.

Yes, I know that after the failure of the Russian army in Ukraine, they changed the “propaganda manual” and began to give out a new reason for the aggression, “Ukraine’s accession to NATO,” although they forgot the chronology and facts. This is a “normal” state for Russian propaganda and their hench media Smiley

Now they are talking about the fact that Russia in Ukraine is generally at war with NATO, although... they constantly say that Western countries can provoke Russia to start a war... with NATO, because... The Armed Forces of Ukraine have long been broken up, and a successful 2-3 week special operation ended with the capture of Kyiv... But this is not certain Smiley)))

In summary, I strongly do not recommend reading Russian or Kremlin-controlled media Smiley

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March 21, 2024, 02:47:10 PM
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An armed conflict between India and China is unlikely and I'll give you 3 reasons for it:
1. The "disagreements" between the two countries have existed for a long time (like about certain areas between the two countries and borders, etc.) and it has never led to any major conflicts. In other words India has a much higher chance of going to war with Pakistan than with China.
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Dear if India starts a war with Pakistan what do you think what will happen? If this happens china will probably be involved in this war from the side of Pakistan. Pakistan has a strong relationship with China and China has invested a lot of money in Pakistan. their biggest Project in Pakistan Is "CPEC" If this project successfully completed both countries will have a lot of advantages of it. China Shipping Costs will be reduced because of this project they will not have to travel a big giant sea for their importing their country needs CPEC will help them all that way to reduce that cost.

Some Days ago, I was listening to a piece of news that mentioned that now these days India is bothering the project and does not want the completion of this project. Actually, the thing is that we Pakistan and Indian people like each other and respect each other as well but the negative thing is that the border army, government, and social media play their bad role in spreading negativity to increase the conflicts between these two countries (Pakistan & India)
That's true. I was just trying to compare the nature of tensions between these duos.
As for China, from what I've seen they've always strived to prevent any kind of conflict specially in countries close to them or in countries they have a major interest in. This means they will continue trying to both avoid and prevent armed conflicts between China and India or India and Pakistan. After all they need stability to expand their economy.

russia seen eastern ukraine as the safety barrier to keep nato away from russia's borders.

its why russia wanted to take that eastern region and declare it an independent state (no mans land) to keep that buffer space to keep nato/EU at arms length so that russia does not need to defend it endlessly forever
That's one of the smaller reasons since the annexed regions are also considered "Russian borders" now (95% of them voted for Putin in the recent election in Russia).
The major reason is for Russia to dominate the Black Sea considering that for such a massive country Russia had a very little sea shore and control in the Black Sea before 2014. Also if you look at the annexed parts on the map, these regions are more of South and South East rather than being Eastern Ukraine. Russia still shares a lot of border with other Ukrainian provinces in East and North Eastern Ukraine, I marked that huge border with red in the picture below and the new borders with the "buffer space" in green. You can clearly see the difference this way.


By taking Crimea they choked Ukraine in Sea of Azov and increased their dominance in the Black Sea. By taking more land in South and South East (basically everything below Dnipero River) they cut 90% of Ukraine's access to the Black Sea and increased their own dominance.
These regions also included major industries, infrastructures, farms and water sources of Ukraine that now belong to Russia.

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March 21, 2024, 08:10:27 PM
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An armed conflict between India and China is unlikely and I'll give you 3 reasons for it:
1. The "disagreements" between the two countries have existed for a long time (like about certain areas between the two countries and borders, etc.) and it has never led to any major conflicts. In other words India has a much higher chance of going to war with Pakistan than with China.
....

Dear if India starts a war with Pakistan what do you think what will happen? If this happens china will probably be involved in this war from the side of Pakistan. Pakistan has a strong relationship with China and China has invested a lot of money in Pakistan. their biggest Project in Pakistan Is "CPEC" If this project successfully completed both countries will have a lot of advantages of it. China Shipping Costs will be reduced because of this project they will not have to travel a big giant sea for their importing their country needs CPEC will help them all that way to reduce that cost.

Some Days ago, I was listening to a piece of news that mentioned that now these days India is bothering the project and does not want the completion of this project. Actually, the thing is that we Pakistan and Indian people like each other and respect each other as well but the negative thing is that the border army, government, and social media play their bad role in spreading negativity to increase the conflicts between these two countries (Pakistan & India)
That's true. I was just trying to compare the nature of tensions between these duos.
As for China, from what I've seen they've always strived to prevent any kind of conflict specially in countries close to them or in countries they have a major interest in. This means they will continue trying to both avoid and prevent armed conflicts between China and India or India and Pakistan. After all they need stability to expand their economy.
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The tension between the Pakistan and India Border is kinda tight because these both always have been making problems on different things for each other over time. these problems are geographically as of Kashmir India says it is their part of the land and Pakistan says it is our part of the land but between these two countries Kashmir has smashed but the Indian army is kinda bad with Kashmir people residential as we have heard so many news over this now it is true or not who knows?

On the other hand, another problem between these two countries is the water conflict which always has remained unsolved till the day these two countries became independent. The Ravi River comes from India to Lahore city of Pakistan Which stays mostly time empty the whole year and when the Water at the side of the Indian river gets overloaded they release water which in results sometimes Pakistan people who live at the edges of the Ravi River have to face some loses but it would be the best thing that if India does not disturb the water flow like that it should always be released and all things will stay naturally good.

The main thing is humanity that is why I always respect all humanity no matter whether they cross of the border or not i know both sides of people have some negative energy just because of the negative impact of social news channels otherwise both respect each other.

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