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March 15, 2024, 01:48:13 PM
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I think it may look wield though but not too difficult to look deeper into the intent of the law to understand the purpose of a particular law. Every law is meant to fulfill a purpose and it further review covers any lacuna the the original law has left open. In order words, this law that prohibit the public advertisement of gambling whilst gambling is allowed, I think it is for the purpose to avoid exploitation of fake gambling social media bloggers, telegram groups and other gambling marketing affiliate that are all glutton to the pockets of gullible gamblers.

So, it means if those groups exist then they can not do public adverts and winning of members into their groups. The law allows a person to gamble to his will and conscience and not to be deceived out of their will or get scammed.

However, in every law you will still find offenders but it is already stated in the law on the punishment to such contravention of the law.

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March 15, 2024, 01:57:56 PM
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So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Considering the underaged, I think this law was made as a sort of protection for them. Yes there are many gambling and betting places around in the society that can also expose gambling to children, but think of it, some of our underaged will not ever step foot in one of those kinds of places if no one from their family or you who they look up has endorsed it.

Your family members who are underaged and other underaged in the society that look up to you are on you socials, when you post up gambling slips or any kind of endorsing content about gambling, they see it and may be inspired to try gambling from that early age because of you.

It makes sense to me that the government does not want people promoting gambling in any form online.

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March 15, 2024, 01:58:38 PM
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It does seem to be a rule that contradicts one another but actually it is quite reasonable, because when posts or anything about gambling can be easily disseminated it will probably make more citizens involved including those who have not reached maturity, especially sometimes many promotions can provide information that does not match reality. If a country legalizes gambling, it does not mean that it can be freely talked about or advertised because there must still be rules to prevent bad things from happening because of gambling, because the state still expects their citizens to gamble responsibly.

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March 15, 2024, 01:59:06 PM
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I think it is for the purpose to avoid exploitation of fake gambling social media bloggers, telegram groups and other gambling marketing affiliate that are all glutton to the pockets of gullible gamblers.
I do not think so because if there is no gambling ads and promotions, there are other means that scammers can use to scam people. Scam is inevitable. If that is the reason, also no ads or site promotions will be allowed. I guess gambling ads are not allowed because gambling is risky. The government prefer people to know it by themselves and not through ads and with this, children can not easily know about gambling sites.

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March 15, 2024, 02:04:09 PM
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maybe for many people this is a funny and unreasonable law, but i believe that the government in your country has a purpose in making this law. maybe they see that the act of promoting gambling wins can trigger other people to join in gambling, especially in developing countries where most people have below average incomes and minimal knowledge about gambling, it can trigger them to be interested in gambling and this will make more and more people involved in gambling.

so this law has a good goal of being able to protect more people from the negative impacts of gambling and prohibiting more influencers from engaging in gambling promotional practices.

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March 15, 2024, 02:31:51 PM
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Well I already know what country are you talking about and we are the same living in that country, the thing is gambling is not entirely legal in the country, meaning there are exceptions such as you can't operate without a permit or yiu are not following the legal rules and regulations in your establishment, and also winning a very huge amount of money from gambling should undergo in government meaning there are taxes and such which is a bullshit, but we can't argue because they are the one that implements the rules or laws so we don't have a choice but to obey and if some cases you win big amount in gambling in this country make sure you win in a legal establishment or business or else government will treat your earning as subject to crime and you will not get a single penny. For example, if you win in an illegal casino and announce it on social media, the government or authority will find a way to confiscate your money as it came from an illegal business.

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March 15, 2024, 02:39:14 PM
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There's always a double standard in government laws, so you need to get used for that.

They're accepting gambling because they know they can make a lot money by taxing the casino, but they don't want people to promote the casino because they didn't want to see people know their country are really known as gambling (many people still think gambling is bad), so they want to get a good impression for other people especially from foreign countries.

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March 15, 2024, 02:52:45 PM
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This is more of a case of eating your cake and having it back.
I couldn’t help but laugh so hard at how these politicians do their things and how in earth will they allow the day to day running of several gambling related outlets with possible licenses to operate in the country but yet prohibits people from talking about it , how ?
I think this is, another way of extorting from the poor and innocent citizens of your country because I can alone imagine the joy that comes with winning a very huge amount of money from gambling and yet can’t even share the news with someone else across the net because you’re scared of been jailed or fined which is absolutely ridiculous.

I also said it’s more like a case of eating ones cake and wanting it back because, for a casino to operas free legally in a country, there must be some sort of license backing them up legally and since the government is already generating some reasonable figure from them in form of tax, they can’t even decide if they should leave or not but rather imposing some insane law of an innocent gambler.

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March 15, 2024, 03:03:58 PM
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Such regulations may be largely disrespected among most gamblers, but may be appreciated in government efforts to prevent more people from becoming addicted to gambling. They legalize gambling, but don't want casinos and winnings to be promoted, looking at the positive side is good in my opinion.

There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.

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March 15, 2024, 03:06:49 PM
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Not quite the strange as everyone says, if I am not wrong many countries restricted celebrities from promoting casinos and any gambling related activities just like restrictions on tobacco and Booze so the advertising companies may find loopholes like promoting the brands instead of product that will reach the targetted audience. But proposing penalty even to talk about gambling is quite extreme and most likely it will be rephrased by the respective entity that can be applicable in reality.

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March 15, 2024, 03:10:16 PM
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The main target of this proposed bill is to crackdown those influencers with high volume of followers that encouraging their followers to gamble.
That's a good thing because such influencers often promote shady casinos in order to earn revenue. I have personally seen many influencers who were promoting 1xBit to their followers and were saying good things about that casino. We on Bitcointalk know that how shady that casino is and if your words are true then government might also gather such information and try their best to stop such influencers.

Some governments see gambling promotions not appropriate or not appropriate to under 18 in the public and discourage the promotion.
That's in fact another great step taken by a government to protect the underage from gambling because underage people can get highly addicted to gambling and they can't discriminate between good and bad. If governments are against gambling promotion then why do they allow gambling casinos to continue their service in the area?

That's something strange, if they are against gambling promotion then they should be against casinos as well. In OP's country gambling casinos are functioning without any issue but the ones who say anything about betting may face issues. Isn't that very strange.

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March 15, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
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I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

Then i don't actually think its legal in your country if what is legal cannot be promoted, then its as better as being against the law, promotion is not as bad as allowing it at the first place, so its better that they make their stand clear to the people that they did not support gambling and its illegal than creating a fine upon any attempt to advert it, are they not regulating the sector, are the government not being paid tax from the representing gambling organizations.
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There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.

This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  Cheesy

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March 15, 2024, 03:19:43 PM
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It is a matter of time before gambling is eventually banned in your country. I don't know the level of freedom of information you people enjoy in your country, but what your government may be doing is to discourage people from making gambling seem like a shortcut to wealth as many organizations package their product beautifully in advertisement. They prefer gamblers and potential gamblers to visit the physical shops to find out firsthand information about gambling from gamblers and those who can share from their person experience.  If this be the case, there is some merits to their actions even though I think they are too extreme. To avoid jail, just gamble but don't post about it on social media.

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That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

I think they are limiting to casinos/gambling establishments that are monitored by the government. If you advertise any kind of gambling platform other than those mandated by law or by the government, then that is where it becomes illegal.

Though that may be the case, I also find this peculiar that there is a pending bill regarding this kind of advertisements. It is just all over the place to the point that a person may be held liable for cases which are advertised by the government itself.

There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.

This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  Cheesy

From what I learned in law school, majority of the bills that are passed through Congress will be heavily modified by the time it reaches the Senate. In fact, the whole bill can be changed essentially because the important requisite only is that the bill must ORIGINATE from the Congress.

For example, if the bill that originated from the lower house is about gambling, by the time it reaches the Senate, the whole bill can be about health or about anything. What is important only here is that the creation of the bill must start from the House of Representatives.

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So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Laws remain rules from the government, they can issue laws based on mutual negotiations, especially parliament, of course parliament is not one or two people, maybe dozens of people and including religions, whether it's for gambling or against gambling, we as a society must understand situations like that, I'm sure almost all countries apply rules like legal gambling but the same as illegal and illegal gambling but like legal.

We understand situations like that in gambling, because almost on average mafia countries have power in the government, if that happens then it is not surprising that in countries where gambling is legal it becomes illegal and vice versa, business and rivals talk, that's how the world is today, laws can be bought and wrong can be right and right can be wrong.

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March 15, 2024, 03:29:12 PM
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I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I just hope this bill is not passed into law because many people might go to jail or be forced to pay fines. I hope the government is also making plans to increase the prison capacity of the country because many people might fall victim to this law. People usually post wins on social media to advertise the casino and out of the joy of winning. Friends and families have mocked many people concerning losses in gambling, so out of joy they might want to prove to critics that they have been fortunate. This is why some of them post these wins on social media.

That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

Sometimes it is not out of place for the government to regulate the gambling sector to discourage gambling addiction and underage gambling. I was not pleased when I saw a betting company advertising close to a junior secondary school where students are less than fourteen years old. This is why the government will make certain laws to protect the vulnerable. However, I find this bill to be very strict.   

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March 15, 2024, 03:29:55 PM
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That's strange. But reading from the article's first paragraph you can already tell this is something about social media influencers promoting casinos which have ruined lives of your fellow men. Many off us are not aware of the people affected in your country but the government must have took noticed of those victims are did some actions.

The casino and all other gambling businesses in the cities are regulated and the establishments know their gamblers. If you are someone who gambles in your city, they know you can afford and they will not bother you but those online gamblers, the government will not be able to monitor people who spends money in to online casinos and who got addicted.

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This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  Cheesy
LOL, I noticed it and it's no longer a secret.
The government will try to take a middle path so as not to ban it completely, which in the end will get nothing from the industry. Maybe they'll think about what's mutually beneficial before passing a rule, but I don't know what country you're from.

Almost all countries have corrupt governments, not only yours but my country is the same. They often camouflage themselves with regulations, while behind the scenes they continue to get payments from the industry. It's ridiculous, but that's the truth.

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March 15, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
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This violation is quite strange and confusing but interesting to discuss, sometimes there are strange regulations like that in some countries but we just don't know about them, but this is much stranger where gambling is legal everywhere but you are not allowed to publish it online let alone promote it, I think we Everyone knows that the reason the state prohibits gambling is because it doesn't want all of its people to gamble in online casinos and maybe that reason is used to prevent people from gambling online because the government doesn't get the taxes.

Meanwhile, playing gambling at lottery outlets offline, maybe the government gets taxes from it, but I also don't want to react, let alone assess the regulations in your country, of course your government has reasons for that, it could be because they want to get more taxes and fines from the people who do you like gambling or does your government not want people to like gambling because of invitations from friends who publish their winnings as gambling-related content on the internet or their social media.

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