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March 15, 2024, 10:59:09 PM
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That's not weird or strange. Sen. Robin Padilla is shit on some of his actions as a Senator but I support him on that bill he's proposing. If you try to visit some gambling-related groups on social media, especially on Facebook, there are several posers around just to advertise the site they are promoting.

The site is not publicly posted by these posers and fake accounts but you need to PM them. It might lead to some users ending up playing on a scam site just because of these free offers from these posers. If that is regulated, it can somehow minimize the worst-case scenario that newbies might end up.

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March 15, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
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"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
This is another way of the government saying that if you gamble, gamble privately which is how it should be without letting everyone know that you are into gambling. Many people have picked up the trend of always posting their activities online, even when they gamble. It must have been very rampant for the government to formulate such policies.

Besides, I can't believe someone will really post their winning bets in lottery or horse racing to the public?
You better believe it, there are people who happen to be gamblers too, they cannot do without posting online, there is nothing like a private life to these people. Many celebrities and influencers are like this.

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March 15, 2024, 11:07:38 PM
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That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

This wasn't a law yet, it is just a bill proposal that anyone who promote gambling content online get penalized.  I do not find this kind of proposition  to be strange.  This kind of proposed bill is expected if the person wanted to limit gambling activities in the country.  This does not contradict with the legality of gambling n a country since it targets the publication of online gambling content that may encourage people to gambling.  This is more or less prohibiting online promotion of gambling.

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March 15, 2024, 11:11:40 PM
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I don't understand any rules of the law and it seems very strange to me that in a country where gambling is legalized, posting or commenting or advertising about gambling in that country will be fined a huge amount.
If such a penalty system is done with legalization then I don't see any reason to legalize it. Gambling has been legalized in different countries of the world and allowed enough to promote but I found the first country where even if gambling is legalized only to promote it has to pay huge fines.
But OP's post doesn't make the whole thing clear, I think there are some government rules where gambling is legalized and some specific regulations are given to promote it. If it can be promoted in any other way outside of that specific regulation, then maybe fine will have to be paid.

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March 15, 2024, 11:17:23 PM
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I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content
It's pretty much like that US law where prostitution is legal, but if you were caught getting paid in money as a prostitute, you're going to be jailed. It's pretty much a way for the country's government to either pass up laws that wouldn't necessarily violate some human rights, or in this case in particular, to literally solve a fucking problem.

As somenoe who's gained access to the Filipino internet community's trends and setups, I knew for a fact just how massive online gambling ads are in this fucking space. Every micro-blogger/internet vlogger you would see out there is either sponsored by an unlicensed online gambling platform, or is a direct partner of theirs, luring and leading people into thinking that they can earn quick cash by playing in their site as compared to the regular casino's discretion of warnings, (you'd literally see these people saying how easy it is to earn $200 on a single session of betting, and to top it all off, they don't require any form of KYC) so yeah, glad to see that for once the government is looking at an issue at hand and is doing whatever they can in their power to solve a running problem.


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March 15, 2024, 11:17:47 PM
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So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I think the goverment they are only trying to regulate gambling in your country so that it won't be abused.  Maybe they think promoting gambling and advertising gambling can make Young people to show much interest on it which can later be a difficult for challenge for them . Maybe the government is trying to control gambling just because of the side effect which can be serious of problem to the citizens of this country,  I think this could only be the reason for this .

I think the goverment just want the citizens to just play their gambling online and never to talk about outside or public places. This is to say that the government is against the promotion of gambling so that it won't affect people to get addicted.
I think It's wise for government to have regulations on gambling in a way to respond a common concern for public welfare and the potential negative consequences associated with excessive gambling. Governments often implement regulations to protect citizens from the harmful effects of gambling addiction. It's better to ensure that gambling activities are conducted responsibly. It would be a good policy to promote responsible gambling and limit exposure to gambling advertising, especially to vulnerable populations such as young people. That is a primary objective of many government regulations.

Regulating the industry and controlling where and how gambling activities are advertised are the policy to mitigate the risks of addiction and minimize the impact on society. Encouraging online gambling, where activities can be more easily monitored and controlled, may indeed be part of the government's strategy to regulate gambling in a more controlled environment. Online platforms make gamblers easier to set limits on their spending and time spent gambling.

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March 15, 2024, 11:27:09 PM
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If your government would enact a law that you can't promote anything that relates with gambling then there is no need to keep gambling in that country its better to restricts gambling than enacting such law to be abide by their citizens which is very difficult in my opinion. I can't see any season to people gambling not to mentioned anything that is related to gambling and probably mentioned then such person's or groups of people has to pay penalty for mention and promoting gambling site, don't you think is better to ban gambling in that state region?
If that can solve the problems because I know too well that some people do love sharing their winning on their social media handle and are they also monitoring the social media page of everyone to know if they violates the rules by promoting external material that is purely on a gambling benefits?

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March 15, 2024, 11:40:00 PM
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This is just absurdity coming in from the government. Most of the laws and ordinance from the Philippines related to gambling contradict each other. It's like they are protecting something, but at the same time, lets the actual danger roam around and take people's hopes. If they want to ban advertisements but not gambling, then they are just subtly promoting gambling since people will look in places just to know what platforms are out there to play on.

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March 15, 2024, 11:48:15 PM
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The law is strange but nothing new. There are many countries where gambling is legal but there are some strict rules that must be followed. The exact rationale behind making all these rules is that if the government does not make any strict laws to promote gambling then all classes of people in that country will be so strongly attracted to gambling that the entire eco system will be ruined. Especially youth below 18 years will involve themselves in gambling without complying with the government regulations and thus their life along with their career will become miserable. That is why the government has not banned gambling but has strictly prohibited the promotion of gambling and in such cases promotion will be punished with severe penalties.

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March 15, 2024, 11:54:01 PM
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Every country has its own funny rules that can make you wonder what could lead to their drastic rule against their citizens.

This makes to ask, what could be the cause of this? For your country, Senate members think of passing this kind of bill against gamblers who would like to talk about their gambling experiences(winning or losing) openly for others to learn from it. However, every country wants to protect its citizens from not having financial deception from other citizens. Let everyone not be deceived that gambling makes one millionaire by betting hugely. I think that should be one of the reasons the bill was passed by your country's Senate members

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March 15, 2024, 11:59:06 PM
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At least, that law, if ever it will be passed, will restrict those braggers from posting their winnings, especially streamers.

It's for the safety of the users as well and these people will learn how to just keep low-key with their winnings.

This is just absurdity coming in from the government. Most of the laws and ordinance from the Philippines related to gambling contradict each other. It's like they are protecting something, but at the same time, lets the actual danger roam around and take people's hopes. If they want to ban advertisements but not gambling, then they are just subtly promoting gambling since people will look in places just to know what platforms are out there to play on.

For the fairness of both parties, since gambling is an important part of the economy of the country, it should be regulated.

Is it good for you to see those chillers and influencers doing gambling content freely luring many people?
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Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.

I get where the senator is coming from but it does sound extreme. Being in an early stage, there is likely to be changes about the bill (if approved) as well so I'm expecting it to be laxer.

I also doubt the bill would be retroactive -- means past actions will not be counted because it doesn't sound fair if it's retroactive. Plus, they would need to fine the influencers first so imagine the noise from that community lol.

But I guess this is one of the reasons why I try to stay private on bitcointalk because you never know what happens next.

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How massive is the world of gambling in that country (the Philippines)? It's true that you see several casinos and gambling outlets in several corners of the region and I have also done a little research on the Philippines, where gambling really contributes to the culture of the Filipino people... but it seems like the government is quite concerned about the gambling addiction that befalls its citizens. Until now, perhaps the government is reducing the number of gambling addicts by stopping online promotions regarding gambling so that people don't get too involved in the world of gambling.

I'm sure Senator Robin Padilla feels that gambling in the Philippines should be reduced, and as long as this bill is not approved, then I don't think the warnings regarding uploading content about gambling on social media will be realized.
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That's why if you win on gambling games, you don't have to posts your winning to your social media or tells to many people around you. That's for your save from any bad guys or any regulations like that. By keeping your winning secretly, you can enjoy the wins money for yourself. But the regulations in one country will be different than in other countries so that will depends on how people will react if they win much money by playing gambling. They can still posts their winning from gambling especially if there is no regulations like that because they thinks that posting their winning in the social media is like a prestigious.

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Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely
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Personally I don't see any reasonable reasons on why someone should even speculate their winning of bets in the first place. That doesn't make a difference to their gambling and I wonder why they don't spread the news of their looses. So probably spreading a winning game to the internet is like promoting the gambling which can be influential to posses others who might not have the thought to gamble in the first place and definitely such could ilicit chronic gambling to others because everyone would be so eager to hit the jackpot at all costs while their funds are gone on the process.
Left with me single handedly, it should be better of to talking about lost games than winning games because that alone can moderate and serves warnings to gamblers who are just after of making money in their gambling.
Moreso, I love the terms and conditions there in your country because your government cares about your financial and mental reputations.
I hope you don't get mad by the lawful system.

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Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely

It’s not really what it looks like. It’s not for the general public but for those influencers that have huge amount of followers trying to encourage their viewers to gamble. Normal social media user can still post a gambling related post but it shouldn’t contain any word of encouragement to make other people to gamble.

The problem on gambling in our country is very serious now since influencers are free to post any gambling related content despite they have minor audience. Government is just dumb here to not control the meta content by requesting meta to ban any gambling content rather than create a useless bill like this that will waste time and money of senators.

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           -   As far as I can see, the reason that proposed bill was made is because the senator probably saw that there are many minors who see the promotion of online gambling on social media like the Facebook platform. Usually, the promoters are influencers who teach people to gamble, and most of the influencers are fraudsters and deceitful in their streaming or content uploaded on their Facebook pages.

That's why it's good that we can see some influencers who will be caught by that law when it becomes law, and there are those who will be jailed. It's too severe, even for women who promote online gambling, because many of them are ruining the lives of poor people. What's even more annoying is that there are also influencers because other poor people, like vendors, who are looking for a good life will be taught to gamble, which is really below the belt, so I am in favor of that proposed bill.

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That's why if you win on gambling games, you don't have to posts your winning to your social media or tells to many people around you. That's for your save from any bad guys or any regulations like that. By keeping your winning secretly, you can enjoy the wins money for yourself. But the regulations in one country will be different than in other countries so that will depends on how people will react if they win much money by playing gambling. They can still posts their winning from gambling especially if there is no regulations like that because they thinks that posting their winning in the social media is like a prestigious.
I don't see any reason why people will post winnings on Social Media just to gain attention. In most cases social media is not regulated and this action might expose gambling to children. The most challenging part of this issue is that most celebrities with high followership also post these wins and this could fuel unhealthy gambling activities. Just as you rightly stated, it is ideal to keep your gambling activities secret because it will reduce the risk of being attacked after a big win. Gambling in my area is not well accepted therefore posting your win on social media could fuel discrimination and even cyberbullying.

Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely
There has been an increase in celebrities showcasing their gambling experience on social media in the Philippines. This might be the measure by the government to minimize these actions because they have large followers which might include underage individuals. It is also possible that some gambling firms pay these celebrities to promote their platforms. If I am allowed to make input in the bill I will propose that anybody who posts gambling wins or loses on social media for commercial purposes will be fined.

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I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.
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