Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?

[darkangel11]

I am very surprised to know about these laws. When there is no rule against the activity but there is a rule against publishing it. Actually, I have never heard of such a rule but came to know from your post. I think the majority of the people have not heard anything like this.

You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.

[carlfebz2]

Unfortunately in some countries, especially asian ones like the one in OP, gambling is a serious social concern, because it's in the habits, the culture and the traditions of people. While in western countries, it's way less socially accepted to play with money and to expose it publicly. So there are severe laws in those countries and governments reguarly take measures to fight against excesses. For example japanese people are known to like gambling and to be high rollers but the authorities take years to open the first casino there, because they are very concerned about the consequences on the population.

But still they do push through and make it legal but of course its would be normal that government would really be making everything would be in moderation on which it would really be just that a common approach or something i could say that it is really just that right that they would really be having that kind of control not to make things excessive at the same time they are really that making it legal.
Its not really that a bad approach it is really just that it would really be depending into their rules and regulations on how they would really be seeing gambling industry that plays out into their vicinity.

This is why as a citizen when it would really be just that a normal thing that you would do is to obey on which on the time that they would be prohibiting something then its normal
that you would really be that following if you dont like to face up some problems.

[agustina2]

You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.

Don't post crappy things here if you don't understand everything. Did you even take the time to read the article? Or do you know what's the status of promoting online gambling in PH? The proposed bill is not stupid at all if you will not just read the title of this thread.

There are lots of online influencers already who promote gambling in PH. These streamers didn't even think twice but just for the content, they will promote several different gambling sites, even though some are not officially registered to the country's main gambling bureau which is PAGCOR. In case of a scam, these streamers will just hide for several weeks and then go back again streaming like nothing happened.

It's stupid to think that by posting your wins, you will go to jail. Please understand the proposed bill first before reacting.

[Webetcoins]

the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble

It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

[Dewi Aries]

the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble

It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.

[South Park]

I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content

It does not seems that odd to me, it seems as if the government where you live is taking the same posture towards gambling that many other governments have towards tobacco, as in many countries tobacco itself is legal to be consumed by those that are considered to be legal adults but the advertising in itself is illegal, this is done as a way to prevent people from engaging in a hobby the politicians in turn consider to be harmful, and in fact I have always thought that gambling ads will eventually suffer this fate, so I do not find it surprising at all.

[Zadicar]

the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble

It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.

Totally confusing on which its legal but not allowed to have those advertisement or posting up winnings? that would be surely be creating that kind of question in mind on why they do really
have those kind of rule or regulation on which its something no sense. How would those companies would really be doing their marketing on this method or kind of ruling?
Totally that hard to market on something having this kind of rules and regulations but well as a citizens or company owners then you wont really be able to do something
because we are really that following on whats mandated and there's nothing we can do about that.

If you dont like to go to jail then follow those rules or laws then you should really be just that fine.  

[entertheabyss]

It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

Illegal or legal, ensure to earn in good proportion. Always keep to widely recognized strategies, which will lead to a solid standing in the system. We do what we believe is best for us, never doubt the process, and present the required data regarding the system. It's extremely dangerous, but we do what we believe is appropriate given the substantial earnings. Gambling is authorized in my country, and it has been one of the biggest source of the rebellion of the young people, while also ruling out the values set out by the lottery system.

[HelliumZ]

The law of a country is passed considering the overall situation of that country, but I still find this matter strange where gambling has got parliamentary legalization, but after getting parliamentary legalization, if promotion or advertisement is made on gambling in that country, there is a provision of severe punishment or fine. Of course, there may be some issue in that country for this, or if gambling promotion in that country may be of great public welfareThis may have the opposite effect, perhaps because gambling advertising is strictly prohibited despite the government's parliamentary legalization of gambling. However, whether online or offline, gambling advertisements can have a negative impact on people, especially children who see these advertisements will create a strong curiosity about gambling and from this strong curiosity, they are later attracted to gambling and become a professional gambler.

[Dewi Aries]

However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.

Totally confusing on which its legal but not allowed to have those advertisement or posting up winnings? that would be surely be creating that kind of question in mind on why they do really
have those kind of rule or regulation on which its something no sense. How would those companies would really be doing their marketing on this method or kind of ruling?
Totally that hard to market on something having this kind of rules and regulations but well as a citizens or company owners then you wont really be able to do something
because we are really that following on whats mandated and there's nothing we can do about that.

If you dont like to go to jail then follow those rules or laws then you should really be just that fine.  

Yes this regulation triggers many questions especially from us people who just found out about the existence of such regulations in a country and I'm sure the people there will also initially feel strange when the first time a regulation like this is published, and yes I agree with you that another question is how casino companies can promote their casinos while now is the digital era where 90% of people are more interested in being or active in the world of social media and as we know that in most other countries social media is one of the biggest places for some businesses to showcase and promote their products including gambling promotions.

With this kind of regulation, it seems that the casino industry there only promotes physically or that means not touching the online world which I think the results will not be too optimal because most people in all countries are more active in online media, and yes it is true that in the end there will be nothing they can do there but follow the rules that are enforced and what I worry about is that there will most likely be individuals who accidentally and unknowingly publish something that smells of gambling on online media which makes them have to be punished.

[livingfree]

Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.

[harapan]

I read the bill and this is the part I like the most. I think they have a point.

The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Gambling addiction is a pandemic. It cripples the society and increase the mental health burden on any nation. If the youth, the young people who are supposed to be working and being productive for the nation are struggling with gambling addiction how can such a nation prosper and compete globally.

On the other hand, there also be a bill for the establishment of mental health institutions to rehabilitate gambling addicts and this services should be offered at a subsidized rate to enable people from low economic status be beneficiaries because it is mostly low income earners who are battling gambling addiction.

@robelneo Do you have any of such Health Bill in your country?

Yeah this is indeed a biased law and I don't see why a country will make such law's and expect a follow up on it.all this laws governing such country and are brutally causing or adding to a big mental blow of individuals.
So now, what's the essence of going to casinos to play and when you win,you can't rejoice or share it to others.
We'll I think is a way they try to minimize the population of individuals going into gambling and ending becoming big time addicts.probabky they are trying hard to erace the high rate of gambling in the society.

[Fortify]

I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

You'll find these sort of logical inconsistencies all through life if you pay attention long enough. You have to wonder why some places in the world, even US states, you're not allowed to pump your own gas because it's "not safe", yet the rest of the world seems to do it millions of times every day without disaster. One key factor that politicians might be using in this scenario is - they have control over what goes on in the physical confines of their border, yet companies may have been taking advantage of that fact in the past and trying to avoid things like paying the correct taxes for the country. You'll tend to find these laws are focused towards businesses and will rarely penalize the individual players.

[angrybirdy]

Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.

the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.

[Slow death]

You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.

Don't post crappy things here if you don't understand everything. Did you even take the time to read the article? Or do you know what's the status of promoting online gambling in PH? The proposed bill is not stupid at all if you will not just read the title of this thread.

There are lots of online influencers already who promote gambling in PH. These streamers didn't even think twice but just for the content, they will promote several different gambling sites, even though some are not officially registered to the country's main gambling bureau which is PAGCOR. In case of a scam, these streamers will just hide for several weeks and then go back again streaming like nothing happened.

It's stupid to think that by posting your wins, you will go to jail. Please understand the proposed bill first before reacting.

In my opinion, it seems to me that you are not understanding the seriousness of this bill that this senator is proposing. In short, the senator is proposing a law that aims to ban gambling, there is no better word than that: "ban", he just didn't use the word ban gambling because that would generate some political problem, but in This bill, if approved, will ban all gambling. Think about how any gambling company will function if advertising about gambling is prohibited? It is very clear that the bill bans gambling and this is also something that will deter any citizen of this country from participating in anything that involves gambling. Look at this:

The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Under Section 4 of SB 2602, the Department of Justice (DOJ) will be tasked to issue a disabling order to restrict or block access to gambling-related content with notice to the Department of Information and Communications and National Telecommunications Commission to monitor compliance.

It also tasks service providers to comply with the disabling order within 48 hours of DOJ's issuance of an order.

Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face sis months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

If the violator has linked the online content to an online gambling site or has received any form of remuneration or commissions for publishing gambling-related online content, a maximum penalty of three years jail time and fine of P500,000 will be imposed.

If the offender is a juridical person, a maximum penalty of three years imprisonment and a fine of P500,000 will be imposed on the president, director, manager or managing partners, and or responsible officers. –VAL, GMA Integrated News


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source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/

In other words, with this bill, if it is approved (I don't know if it hasn't been approved yet), they will be banning all games of chance in that country and also all citizens of that country who are found participating in any signature campaign that involves games of chance. they will be punished. In my opinion it is clear that they are banning gambling, I don't know why they are not direct and do not say that gambling will be banned. In any case, it is up to politicians to make the laws, in this case it is the senators and deputies who are elected by the people. but it is also necessary to see who these senators are, if they are very honest people, because in part of this article this senator says that gambling destroys the morale of a nation, I suppose he is a very ethical and moral person. I don't know him so I'm not going to condemn him, but I think he's wrong when he says that gambling destroys society's morals

[Sithara007]

Here in India, as such gambling is illegal (unless it is in the form of government approved lotteries). And a lot of times the illegal gambling dens get raided by local police (that is unless they pay the bribes on time). But the government is completely helpless when it comes to online gambling. They can't take any action, because the web servers are situated abroad, in countries where gambling is legal. Law enforcement is always a step behind in terms of technological innovations. In the end, government ends up losing valuable tax revenue, and the citizens still participate in gambling through the online loophole.

[nullama]

Here in India, as such gambling is illegal (unless it is in the form of government approved lotteries). And a lot of times the illegal gambling dens get raided by local police (that is unless they pay the bribes on time). But the government is completely helpless when it comes to online gambling. They can't take any action, because the web servers are situated abroad, in countries where gambling is legal. Law enforcement is always a step behind in terms of technological innovations. In the end, government ends up losing valuable tax revenue, and the citizens still participate in gambling through the online loophole.

Yeah, it really depends on the actual country that you live.

It is such a different world when you go somewhere else, because you assume everyone has the same rules, but the world doesn't work like that at all.

[livingfree]

Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.

the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.

I'd agree if it's about the wrong way of promotion and the promoters have got the audience that are below the legal age then that should be fined.

But if it's about the traditional way of advertising and promotion then it's like any other service that they're promoting but they have no control over who's going to see their promotion.

So, the channel or promoter who promotes it will likely get some fine if they've got that range of audiences that are minors.

[South Park]

the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.

It may not seem as if it makes any sense, but as stated before there are some products which are legal but that are not allowed to advertise, what this means is that the government does not want to go through the trouble of actually banning something that people like and that realistically they have no way to really ban, however they are trying to reduce the rate at which people use that product, and an effective way to achieve this goal is to forbid those products to advertise.

[Oasisman]

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

Nah, I don't think it works that way. It say's in the article that anyone who post gambling related promotions will be charged. I don't think posting your winnings in the social media will get you charged of the bill. I think this law is created for those very abusive and greedy content creators who constantly advertise gambling related contents enticing people to do gambling. They even stage a betting session where they win good amount of money just to encourage their followers to do the same and use their referral code. Online gambling platform are seriously paying these greedy content creators to promote their website in the most aggressive way. The law is created to protect children from seeing this kind of content and to avoid adults from getting addicted.
What I think about this law is actually just fair. Even in the television, gambling advertisement are only limited.