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March 29, 2024, 11:35:05 AM
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It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
Some streamers do care about their audience and they don't endorse things that they know can be bad for those who follow them. However, that is not the case with all of them and most of them would do anything for money, and they have to do that because they earn a living by doing that, but they should at least try and bring content to people that wouldn't be harmful for them in any way.

Streaming platforms need to make sure that streamers on the platform don't go beyond a certain limit promoting things that might not be beneficial for the viewers or on a contrary, they can become harmful for them if they follow those streamers and try to do the same things as they do on stream.

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April 02, 2024, 03:03:28 PM
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~ I don't think the author of one of the videos I watched will be guilty of anything. 

The situation is exactly the same there.

Absolutely. That's what I'm talking about. Don't blame advertisers. They are just doing their job.


Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

I agree. People should realize that it’s mainly our choices that lead us to where we are presently. We could be influenced and motivated to take some actions you ordinarily wouldn’t,, but in the end, no one actually forced the individual to take those actions that led to suicidal thoughts and behavior. We should consider being more responsible for our actions and not try to run away from the outcome.

It may become a big problem for the influencer and perhaps the platform itself being used when 50% and upwards of his fans and followers become suicidal after having listened and encouraged by the streamer to do whatever.

Right, if more than 50% of the viewers commit suicide, that might constitute a big problem, not only for the influencer but for the platform owners too. But at the moment we are very far from there. Only few people who watch streams of casino games become problem gamblers, let alone commit suicide.

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April 02, 2024, 03:12:18 PM
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What a shame, as much as there's a small part of the blame involved in the person that just died because of addiction, I think that it's important that we also address this issue with irresponsible influencers, I don't think that people that don't have the mental faculty and capability to be a role model to their audiences should be allowed to stream because let's face it, kids and people that have no self-control and susceptible to idolatry are going to tune in to your stream and you may not see it as a streamer but you've got to understand that there's a lot of people out there with different behaviors and you might be the reason why they're into something, you won't be called an influencer for nothing, even if that word's associated with retarded clout chasers, you still have to remember that people idolize you so if they've done something heinous and they call you out as an idol or inspiration to that thing that they've done, you're partially responsible.

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April 05, 2024, 04:12:52 PM
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some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.
They are directed to do that by the casinos that they promote on their streams, they do it so that people sign up on the platform because a casino wouldn't pay a streamer or an influencer for nothing, they want results for what they are paying and streamers do their best to provide them what they are looking for, so they don't really have a choice.

However, as you said, people who watch those streamers should know that whatever they show isn't always true and just because they keep winning most of the time it doesn't mean we as normal gamblers should have the same experience because gambling in general cannot let anyone win constantly, but streamers and their partners are given special privileges.

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April 08, 2024, 07:03:00 AM
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It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
Some streamers do care about their audience and they don't endorse things that they know can be bad for those who follow them. However, that is not the case with all of them and most of them would do anything for money, and they have to do that because they earn a living by doing that, but they should at least try and bring content to people that wouldn't be harmful for them in any way.

Streaming platforms need to make sure that streamers on the platform don't go beyond a certain limit promoting things that might not be beneficial for the viewers or on a contrary, they can become harmful for them if they follow those streamers and try to do the same things as they do on stream.
99% of them dont care and would really be having that concern into their followers or audience, as long they could really be able to make or earn money then this what matter the most. They dont care about those
effects on what those viewers would really be able to hit up or something that would happen into them. They do their job and as a viewer it is really that on your own discretion if we do speak about
trying to do something which you have seen in the net. It would be just that depending on you on how you would really be making yourself that making good decisions because everything
wouldnt really be messy if you are really just that sensible on the things that you are dealing with. You cant really make your life to mess with if you are really just that mindful on the actions you are making.
They are really just that doing their job but doesnt mean that you would really be needing to follow on what they are doing.

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April 08, 2024, 11:09:53 AM
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some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.
They are directed to do that by the casinos that they promote on their streams, they do it so that people sign up on the platform because a casino wouldn't pay a streamer or an influencer for nothing, they want results for what they are paying and streamers do their best to provide them what they are looking for, so they don't really have a choice.

However, as you said, people who watch those streamers should know that whatever they show isn't always true and just because they keep winning most of the time it doesn't mean we as normal gamblers should have the same experience because gambling in general cannot let anyone win constantly, but streamers and their partners are given special privileges.
You know the worst part of this whole streamer and influencer shit  is that, people nowadays so much depend on the predictions of the so called online experts/streamers rather than working on their own predictions, they are more moved by the so called wins these influencers flaunt on their pages every single day, and they make gambling appear so simple and easy, making people to develop a very wrong perspective about gambling, which isn't supposed to be so because so many gamblers have been misled and compelled into making wrong gambling choices and taking miscalculated risks which has landed them into a very bad state.

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April 08, 2024, 11:59:00 AM
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What a shame, as much as there's a small part of the blame involved in the person that just died because of addiction, I think that it's important that we also address this issue with irresponsible influencers, I don't think that people that don't have the mental faculty and capability to be a role model to their audiences should be allowed to stream because let's face it, kids and people that have no self-control and susceptible to idolatry are going to tune in to your stream and you may not see it as a streamer but you've got to understand that there's a lot of people out there with different behaviors and you might be the reason why they're into something, you won't be called an influencer for nothing, even if that word's associated with retarded clout chasers, you still have to remember that people idolize you so if they've done something heinous and they call you out as an idol or inspiration to that thing that they've done, you're partially responsible.

I have never been into streamers as a from of entertainment, personally. They used to be more likeable and relatable in the 2010, now everything related to than has become about the same games and attitudes with can be very disgusting at times. In the case of gambling streamers it can be even worse. It is bad when someone have so much on an influence over teens and children which religiously watch when on the internet, playing games like Leage of legends or Dota for hours, but watching someone to gamble for literal hours and see their reaction can easily incite to engage in gambling for the first time.

In this situation where a person fell desperate enough to end their existence, I would say both the stream and the viewer/fan share responsibility. The streamer because of the things he does and says, disregarding the loss of life and the potential damage being done to teen and the fan for choosing to allow himself to fall into such a bottomless pit as addition is.

I can only hope he is resting in peace and this won't ever repeat anytime soon ...  Sad

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