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March 21, 2024, 01:00:35 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

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March 21, 2024, 01:07:29 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.


Well you have to look at it at two (2) perspectives:

First, these streamers are making money by the advertisements that they were hired for. These advertisements can range from any kind of platform, whether it be sports, games, gambling, etc. At the end of the day, they are basically "hired" to advertise and it is their job to fulfill this obligation.

Second, streamers have also the obligation to determine which kind of advertisements they would allow on their channel. Naturally, they will pick an advertisement that has the highest offer they may be given. Despite this offer and money, they still have the obligation to know their audience and the implications of their actions.

With that being said, it can still be argued that Adin Ross is just doing his job. Necessarily, all the consequences of his advertisements should not be taken against him as every person is capable of deciding on their own. On the other hand, it may also be argued that there must be a limit on how a streamer advertises gambling given that this platform is very destructive due to addiction.

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March 21, 2024, 01:08:51 PM
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Today, it is increasingly possible to observe the negative impact of gambling advertising on computer game streamers. Many of them are starting to show their viewers how easy it is to make money at the casino, without mentioning the risks and addiction.

This can lead to young people, imitating their idols, starting to gamble, not realizing that this can lead to serious financial problems. Unfortunately, such advertising creates a false impression of an easy path to success and wealth, which can lead to negative consequences for young people. It is important that streamers are aware of their responsibility to the audience and do not encourage players to participate in gambling without proper control.

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March 21, 2024, 01:16:55 PM
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It's already a normal thing to blame someone else for other people's mistake? Shocked

If you're not able to become a gambler, don't gamble, block everything related to gambling.
If you're don't have a boyfriend or girlfriend, don't watch porn, no one ask to watch it.

Eating too much sugar can cause diabetes, is it the government fault to legalizing to sell sugar and sweets for public? Huh

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March 21, 2024, 01:25:10 PM
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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

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March 21, 2024, 01:58:24 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

Prohibition is also relatively difficult for streamers because many platforms also want to have a competition, they also often turn a blind eye to issues such as gambling, as long as it is not excessive and disruptive, platforms will still allow a small corner for advertising but serious advertisements such as gambling will usually not be overly encouraged. Besides, it's hard to blame online streamers, they only advertise because of income, but the problem with addiction comes from the viewers' choices, viewers should understand better to avoid misunderstanding the advertisement

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March 21, 2024, 02:03:56 PM
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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem

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March 21, 2024, 04:20:08 PM
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I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

Gamblers should have high and precise awareness of the risks in gambling so that when gamblers experience defeat they will not be mentally affected by the severe depression they are experiencing and gamblers must have a good mindset because every problem has a solution. , not by continuing to end his life. the problem will just be resolved.
And from the start, gamblers must be able to stay away from thoughts like that. If you can't, then it's best not to enter the world of gambling because the risks are very high.

Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

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March 21, 2024, 04:52:13 PM
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How I love that Gambling streamers should take responsibilities in those sadness that comes from their works in gambling industry because indeed that they are the reason why these happens.
sadly  this is still happening in my country up to now and I hate seeing addicted growing in my locations and even youngsters are being victim of their streams luring people to gamble.

That's sad; another gambler lost his life due to gambling addiction. The image of gambling is getting worse because of this news. As for other people, gambling actually helps because, for others, it not only gives stress relief but also gives fun.

Just don't let us overdo it with gambling, because when it's not controlled, we develop an addiction that other gamblers don't realize. But I hope other streamers will also be responsible because they are also the reason why other viewers can gamble because of their promotion, which is also mixed with creativity.



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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem

Yes I agree with you that indeed some cases due to gambling is not a thing that always happens because it is an activity that is perivasi because the public's perspective on gambling is very negative along with more countries that do not legalize this activity so people prefer to be closed, about providing education to the public about gambling is good especially giving them an understanding that gambling is not a place to earn, but I think this idea has the potential to make people curious about something that is prohibited and maybe those who are too curious will try it.

Each person has a different mindset in responding to a problem and maybe those who choose to commit suicide due to the many defeats in gambling are typical of people who are too easily provoked or sensitive people who are easily emotional where they are really difficult to control themselves when experiencing something that is not in accordance with their expectations. As for what you're suggesting, yes it might be useful to reduce the likelihood of a gambler committing suicide due to gambling, but I don't think it will have much of an effect because as you said, there will be some gamblers who are completely introverted which means they probably wouldn't think of joining a support group or rehabilitation in secret.

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The alarming rise of celebrity gambling promotion, often targeting impressionable young audiences.  Imagine a charismatic influencer encouraging viewers to gamble, unaware of the potential consequences.

The lack of empathy displayed by some celebrities, like Adin Ross in the story, is particularly disturbing.  Focusing solely on financial gain while ignoring the potential for addiction and its tragic outcomes is a clear sign of misplaced priorities.

The emotional and financial vulnerability of young viewers is a crucial factor.  They might be easily swayed by celebrity endorsements, entering the gambling world without the maturity or self-control to navigate its risks responsibly.

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With that being said, it can still be argued that Adin Ross is just doing his job. Necessarily, all the consequences of his advertisements should not be taken against him as every person is capable of deciding on their own. On the other hand, it may also be argued that there must be a limit on how a streamer advertises gambling given that this platform is very destructive due to addiction.

Yeah, I think you make some fair points.  From what I have seen, a lot of these streamers are not exactly truthful when it comes to that gambling stuff they do on screen and  they act like they are playing with real cash, but it turns out that is not true.  And getting kids hooked on gambling? That just isnt right.  Still I get that its a tricky thing to figure out how to handle.  But that gambling trap can ruin lives, no doubt, so we gotta think about some kind of guardrails.  I dunno what the perfect solution is, but clearly there is more nuance here than just a blanket ban or leaving it all be.

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Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

That's not going to happen, casinos often pay such streamers for promoting their services, it's easy to suppose that a large number of his fan base has an account there. As others already mentioned here as well as on Reddit, whether these streamers admit it or not, they're unbiasedly promoting gambling and casinos as a mean to make money, and this isn't surprising because it's literally immature youths posing that it's totally normal to be a gambling addict.

His response was also the cherry on top of the cake, how can someone be so apathetic towards the death of one of his fans? This proves that he only sees numbers, not people.Totally not okay.

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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.
There are so many news that are flying everywhere about people committing suicide which is very wrong.
We need to make always advise people around of the need to gambling education just like the way you implies. There are people that are very emotional little things could make them to keep thinking on what to do especially at a time when things are not going right. Some are very fragile and take decision based on their emotions and if we are not serious to help them, they could do something that would create more severe  to themselves without realizing the later consequences.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Some people has zero idea about something but because others are doing, they will want to follow the same path not knowing that some people are doing it for the passion and not the money but they are few though but we have them. Now, when they now start and it doesn't go as they expect, they make loss, they are stuck on that evidence to make back th money, they try and try and in that process addiction kicks in, the game becomes normal until they start to lose. This addiction stage is one of the most dangerous stage of gambling, have seen a guy I know took his own life because of a mistake he made gambling.

I don't know for others but I have seen life so tough and I don't think I can take my life for anything, it's not worth it, even if I don't have the money of the world, I cherish the small moments I have shared with my love ones and how I will put them in a lot of pain if I die prematurely.

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Today, it is increasingly possible to observe the negative impact of gambling advertising on computer game streamers. Many of them are starting to show their viewers how easy it is to make money at the casino, without mentioning the risks and addiction.


I saw most of them in the reels on Facebook and it seems like they are even making huge lies in their promotions by showing their viewers how easy to win the games they are promoting and they don't seem to care about their audience as long as they spread their lies everything was going on a plan for them. they don't even know the huge risk they are getting as well and also they are making huge mistakes when they fool their viewers because it will fire back to them with double the amount and interest, they get the real karma and this is what happened to those who fool their viewers, they are the one who gets affected with their lies.

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March 21, 2024, 10:47:48 PM
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I saw most of them in the reels on Facebook and it seems like they are even making huge lies in their promotions by showing their viewers how easy to win the games they are promoting and they don't seem to care about their audience as long as they spread their lies everything was going on a plan for them. they don't even know the huge risk they are getting as well and also they are making huge mistakes when they fool their viewers because it will fire back to them with double the amount and interest, they get the real karma and this is what happened to those who fool their viewers, they are the one who gets affected with their lies.

Come on man! Obviously, they’ll have to misrepresent things and in a lot of cases, outrightly lie to their viewers. The more people they bring in, the higher the money earned. Besides, why do some people blindly believe these streamers and whatever they promote. They’re being paid to promote such product or service; of course they’re going to do all they can to sell it to their fan base which includes misrepresenting a lot of things.
They know fully well that they’re lying to their followers but greed and selfishness has long taken over where responsibility and dignity once were. They only care about being paid and could care less about their followers who took their word for it.
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March 21, 2024, 11:44:33 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
First off, Adin Ross is a massive fuckface that does not deserve any form of respect, mercy, or love from anyone on the planet. You could say the same thing for his editor and the entire red-pilled community that supports behaviors like this.

Secondly, if you’re gonna look or ask for sympathy, you wouldn’t find it with a guy like Adin Ross or his squad of editors and motley crew. They belittle people for breakfast, dismiss massive issues like it’s nothing as long as it doesn’t bring them cash nor fame, and they don’t even harbor respect nor an iota of regard from the very community that they try so hard to fit in.

Sorry to hear about this guy who took his own life out of gambling addiction. This is what I’m talking about when I say your life’s gonna be ruined by gambling in one way or another if you don’t find a way to figure your shit out. Learn how to control yourself, stop seeking for other people’s approval or care, especially if their notice or influence pushed you to this particular situation anyway, and make sure that you control your gambling urges before it controls you.

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March 22, 2024, 12:54:19 AM
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I wouldn't put too much accountability on Adin or his team for what happened to the gambling fan just like how I don't put much blame on artists advertising alcohols and cigarettes. Countless lives are also lost as a negative effect of drinking and smoking too. The only thing is that streamers benefiting from viewership and sponsorships should be more careful of what they post on social media.

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March 22, 2024, 01:36:38 AM
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Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

It is true that each person has a different mentality in responding to and resolving problems in their life, there are people who are strong and wise in dealing with problems and there are also people who are really mentally weak even if they only experience small problems. they were immediately carried away by emotions. Yes, I agree with your opinion, every time we dare to take action we must have a sense of responsibility for the risks we will face later and every time we make a decision we must really consider it carefully, don't be careless and don't be too hasty because of this behavior. . is the main thing that will be used in gambling with the aim of preventing big losses and preventing us from addiction.

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