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March 19, 2024, 10:12:35 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

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March 19, 2024, 10:37:10 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

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March 19, 2024, 10:59:05 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

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March 19, 2024, 11:11:43 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

I don't think this is the solution and I don't believe it will have any positive effect.
Just like any niche market, advertising and sponsorship are vital to attracting new customers.
If they ban streamers, they will certainly find other ways to advertise both legally and illegally.

It is necessary for each person to be aware of the risks involved and know how to filter what they see between what is real and what is fabricated.
It is also the obligation of platforms to manage this type of content.

Anyway... blocking streamers might help at first, but I'm sure there would be other less controlled means of communication that players would look for in search of "infallible solutions to get rich".

The problem lies with the players who want to be scammed, not the streamers.

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March 19, 2024, 11:12:03 PM
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I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.
Seek professional help if you have tried and failed personally many times before.

What do you think about this?
It is a sad thing and it paints more of a negative picture for gambling. Critics will be quick to fault gambling in general, where as the problem is not with gambling but irresponsible gambling that has led to addiction. We should try to be good examples of gamblers by gambling responsibly always.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This news is just one of the many tales of people going to the extreme because of gambling addiction. The rate at which these celebrities promote gambling on their platform is becoming very alarming. The most disturbing part of it is that most of the followers of these celebrities are underaged. Many of them will enter the gambling space immature and might not be able to control their gambling behavior because they are not financially and emotionally balanced. I think there should be restrictions on gambling advertisements by these superstars because it seems they are not concerned about the well-being of their followers because of selfish reasons.

The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

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March 19, 2024, 11:20:54 PM
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The problem is that a lot of their viewers (most especially the newbies) don't know what is going on. To them, they feel they are watching someone who is just extremely lucky and is constantly hitting the jackpot without knowing that they are either being sponsored or have an account that`s different from what other users are using, and when they eventually give the game a shot, they also increase their bankroll (trying to emulate the streamer's account, thinking it would yield the same result as that of the streamer), only for them to end up losing everything.

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Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

This is not a good sign, though. If the thought continues, then I'd advise that you take a break from gambling until the urge to take your life dies down.

The fear of having this type of thought or any other depressing thought was the reason I stopped streaming gamblers, because I don`t want a situation where I'll start having the "If I were the one" thought.

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March 19, 2024, 11:24:20 PM
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It's sad to see this kind of news. Even if it's old it should not be neglected.
The streamer obviously doesn't like being attacked even though he might be one of the roots behind why the young one killed himself. But it's not his fault entirely. That kid also has a family and they should've been aware of his actions especially if he is spending a lot of time on his computer.
Still, I would be happy if the streamer would show a little sympathy over the news even though it's old because this ain't something that we should just avoid. Gambling addiction and suicide are like twins, and this just shows that money can even control our lives. And those who are advertising them should be careful with what they are doing. They should not stop telling people to gamble responsibly and they should also be aware if kids are watching their clips because those young people don't know responsibility just yet and they might do stupid things that would ruin their lives.

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The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.
They just don't care this should lead to fans not supporting this kind of streamer because he is not sensitive to this kind of issue, it is just money for this kind of streamer, and don't care about their audience.

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Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

I'm not a big fan of streamers but the platforms should have strict guidelines when it comes to streamers promoting gambling platforms on their streams to avoid this kind of news that is disturbing they should partake of the responsibility.


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March 19, 2024, 11:32:23 PM
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The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.
They just don't care this should lead to fans not supporting this kind of streamer because he is not sensitive to this kind of issue, it is just money for this kind of streamer, and don't care about their audience.

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Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

I'm not a big fan of streamers but the platforms should have strict guidelines when it comes to streamers promoting gambling platforms on their streams to avoid this kind of news that is disturbing they should partake of the responsibility.
I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

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March 19, 2024, 11:36:27 PM
Last edit: March 25, 2024, 06:27:24 PM by AmoreJaz
 #11

It's sad to see this kind of news. Even if it's old it should not be neglected.
The streamer obviously doesn't like being attacked even though he might be one of the roots behind why the young one killed himself. But it's not his fault entirely. That kid also has a family and they should've been aware of his actions especially if he is spending a lot of time on his computer.
Still, I would be happy if the streamer would show a little sympathy over the news even though it's old because this ain't something that we should just avoid. Gambling addiction and suicide are like twins, and this just shows that money can even control our lives. And those who are advertising them should be careful with what they are doing. They should not stop telling people to gamble responsibly and they should also be aware if kids are watching their clips because those young people don't know responsibility just yet and they might do stupid things that would ruin their lives.

The streamer can always remind his subscribers about their responsibilities as a gambler. The tragic event was not on streamer's fault as he didn't have direct influence in his subscriber's life. His influence is very limited to what he is showing to his audience. The responsibility relies on the person himself.

The family should also be aware of what's going on with their family members particularly those younger ones who can easily be influenced by social media. In today's generation, a lot of what's going on can be hidden from your parents or guardians. But if you are a parent, you can instill some basic virtues to your kids that you believe they will hold onto up until they grow up.

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March 19, 2024, 11:47:20 PM
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Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

The problem was on Discord and not on Kick, a fan on Discord committed suicide while Adin was watching...

We know how gambling can ruin lives, if someone loses his life savings for sure he will think for a time about ending his life, but is a stupid move. First of all, we know the basic rules of gambling, and you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

This will only cause some drama around Adin, but nothing will change at all.

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The issue of having ethics in marketing is something that can be questioned when it comes to dealing with the behavior of Streamers. It is enough to see that when on TV, newspapers and even in leagues that are sponsored by a casino they advertise that same casino, there is always a warning warning people to gamble responsibly and informing people that gambling should not be seen as a source of income and that gambling should not be seen as forms of investment, and that there is a high risk of people losing money. This is a warning and mandatory information that you see on TV, newspapers and clubs that advertise gambling websites. but when you look at Streamer's, realize that they focus more on getting new customers for those casinos that paid them

Therefore, the Streamer forgets about honesty, forgets about ethics and starts lying to people, he becomes a character and acts in the videos, pretends that he is surprised by the victory or defeat during the game, pretends that he is playing with the player's money. their pocket, their performance is so good that they manage to convince many other people to play and think that they will win a lot of money with gambling games like the Streamer's that they saw. Streamers don't keep saying things like you shouldn't gamble with money you can't afford to lose, because if they kept talking about that, they would lose customers, that's why they don't say anything about the dangers of gambling, just stay in character during the Stream

I myself had a Stream channel that I sometimes watched, the guy was honest, but since last year when a big casino paid him a lot of money, the guy changed, he started to be dishonest with people, even though I saw that the big casino makes selective payments and scams, yet he continues to promote this casino and keeps acting during his Streamer's, he keeps laughing, he keeps pretending that he is surprised that he won. I stopped watching everything he posts since last year, because he became a person who acts in his videos, as if he were a great actor, he became dishonest. unfortunately this has happened a lot

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That's really sad for someone's fan to take his own life because of someone not listening to you. I do hope that these people in power that have a stream and reach try to see and be empathetic toward people who might be struggling with something. They should be controlled and accountable for what he is doing because of the fact that there are a lot of people who probably look up to him. It's a responsibility IMO.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Bro this is extreme.

I agree that something should be done about these streamers and their fake life or whatever. The have caused more harm than good.
I don't see the value that they are adding other than pull their young audience into gambling addiction and its attendant mental health issues.

Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

This should be taken seriously. Seeking help is the best thing that you can do for yourself.

I know it is not going to be easy but do not hide your addiction from someone who you know you can trust and whose opinion you value. You can beat it because there are countless others that have.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
At the end of the day, Kick is a business entity and with that, they can still Adin Ross to continue as he is one of their biggest streamers as you have said. Even myself have seen him play. And in response by the editor, he blurted it out and it was put out of context. He said that he thought that Adin Ross already knew the news about it and so he called it "old news". However, we really don't want to hear this kind of bad news and this is the worst thing that gambling can bring to us. Our decisions are very clouded and we can't really separated the reality. Hopefully, this will be the last time that we will hear this news as everyone can recover from our gambling addiction and not thinking of ending our precious life.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

It was a bad statement from the editor. Even if they believed they have zero reasons to be called into it, they should have atleast shown some sympathy afterall it's another human dying. I too don't believe the Adin Ross or his team has not incited the suicide in any way and that was the personal decision of the fan.
Streamers or any public figure in general are closely followed by their fans and even the creators intention might not have been bad, every small thing shown, spoke or referred by they has a positive or negative impact. So, they always need to be humble and corrective when it comes to dealing with public. Failing to do so would create controversy and hurt their own popularity.



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This further worsens the image of the gambling industry because things related to gambling such as murder, violence or domestic violence, harassment and so on, ordinary people will blame gambling.
In fact, it's because of their own stupid carelessness, and I don't really care about negative gambling-related news even if it's just manipulation or whatever. However, ordinary people will assume or judge that the gambling industry is the problem.

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I’ve always frown so hard at gambling streamers because i think and feel most of their contents aren’t real and they are maybe some sort of calculated attempt to lure young and gullible players to the site to maybe earn some affiliate commissions at the end and I think these streamers are causing more harm then good and in my country, I’ve seen a lot of adverts from content creators about a particular local game “WAJE GAMES” and one thing I’ve noticed is that, they make it seem there is no loss in the game but when you finally give it a trial, there are extremely very slim chances of you making a win and I’ve also heard about several people who tried  the above mentioned game, I concluded the game is a scam but there are still adverts going on by famous content creators in my country and those adverts have high potentials and possibilities of leading their fans astray.

Addictions is a very crucial issue gambling and I think we shouldn’t castigate addicted but we should rather seek ways to comfort them as it could possibly be anyone a anytime.

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This is one of the major negative consequences that can occur when a player is not aware of the risks involved in gambling, especially when they are influenced just because they saw it on a streaming platform. Its effect varies on different individuals, especially when they have different perspectives, they might misunderstand, especially if there's something wrong on the part of a streamer promoting gambling.

Kick should consider implementing stricter guidelines regarding the content and behavior of streamers, particularly when it involves controversial or potentially harmful topics like gambling addiction.

Even on Meta, there are many of these, former gamer streamers playing slot games and boasting about their large bankrolls. I'm not sure, but I don't think that's their own money; it's probably just used for them as part of promotion. Many children have access to Facebook and enjoy watching videos, so they might develop an interest in this at a young age. That's why I've unfollowed content creators like these now.


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This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.


This is one of the reasons here in our country why anyone found promoting gambling will have a competent case because usually these endorsers are not users in real life, they are just encouraging people to play because that is their job, to spread the word. about gambling and how to do it without any disclaimers to the viewers. I believe that the winnings they show in their livestream are not true and you can't change what is imprinted in my mind that they only use a set up account where they can only show winnings which is really able to entice the viewers.



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Everyone is responsible for all their actions, including when they really enjoy streaming gambling, they will be very tempted to try it too, but unfortunately many people don't realize that what the streamer gets from his broadcast doesn't reflect what his viewers will also get because streamers often only play with money from the casinos that sponsor them. so that when streamers lose it won't hurt them, unlike the audience whose emotions and finances will be affected if they lose, so the streamer should also tell the audience that what they get will be different for each individual so that when the audience gambles they already understand the risk of not getting anything because they don't get according to what was expected, or not the same as what streamers get.

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The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

This is the first news I hear about this case and, according to what you say, chances are that this streamer has some psychopathic traits (no regret, lack of empathy...). I don't think this is a performance.

To me, the main problem is not that people like that have access to these platforms, but that followers have not developed a healthy degree of critical thinking.

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The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 

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It's the advertising that is the problem. The platform can't just screen whoever can watch the gambling content whether kids of 20 years old or up, they all can watch these streamers. These should have been controlled and I guess parents have the same problem.

These kids also are vulnerable. When kids are not exposed to bigger problems in life, a little problem of just losing money, they already want to kill themselves.

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It's the advertising that is the problem. The platform can't just screen whoever can watch the gambling content whether kids of 20 years old or up, they all can watch these streamers. These should have been controlled and I guess parents have the same problem.

These kids also are vulnerable. When kids are not exposed to bigger problems in life, a little problem of just losing money, they already want to kill themselves.
Exactly. I don't side with the streamer; it's just the fact that why would the streamer be accountable or look like he is being blamed? Yeah, he might have a fault, but not entirely. He has a fault in the sense that he is promoting gambling, but he is just doing that for him to make a living. He doesn't have control over who will be watching or what the state of those watching is in terms of their gambling activity. 

Condolences to the person who died, but fact is fact, he is the one who made his life worse, and he is also the one who is in control of himself, so I don't think there should be someone to blame. This will be a regret for the family or friends of the deceased because they didn't try to help with the gambler's condition, but as I said, no one's entirely to blame.

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It's sad to hear what an individual can do because of gambling addiction. Influencers should be mindful of the audiences and contents they are sharing when promoting online gambling. Platforms like kick should implement a much stricter guidelines on which content or how their influencers should promote online gambling. it's important to prioritize audiences well-being over profit and view numbers.
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

Your funny bro, to me your the one who doesn't want to quite gambling, its not as tho they have a grip on you or your forced to the issue here is you need to renew your mind about this cause addiction is a tign of the mind. I have a friend who has been into smoking addiction before for two years but when
he  had a reason to stop he did which was his health, maybe you need to end up in a catastrophic even like losing all your life savings or weaking yourself for good then no one would need to advice you that you must leave gambling yourself.

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With how popular the streaming market is and how easy it is to create a cult of personality in your platform, I think that it's probably the time that you should do your responsibility as a streamer to take care of the people that's on your platform watching you do the things that you need. I think that the ban is a deserved one because that kind of things aren't supposed to happen anyway and that we all should take care of people, the world is slowly deteriorating with flexible morals, it's probably in our best interest that we should do something about this, people being able to influence a horde of yes men and child, it's a scary prospect that this has become the norm for this world.



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March 20, 2024, 09:00:59 AM
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It's a moral compass of the streamers themselves, and I think majority thinks that they are not responsible for any actions of their followers. And for me, we shouldn't influence by this streamers as they could be just living a fake life for all we know. It could be all make believed when they are in front of the camera. And hopefully for those who are following them, just used our logical mind and not be swayed by anything they do or say.

So another horrible stories again. Hopefully, for those whoever you are, contemplating about during this kind of things. It will just give more problems though to the ones that you are going to left so it's not worth to even think about it.
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Exactly. I don't side with the streamer; it's just the fact that why would the streamer be accountable or look like he is being blamed? Yeah, he might have a fault, but not entirely. He has a fault in the sense that he is promoting gambling, but he is just doing that for him to make a living. He doesn't have control over who will be watching or what the state of those watching is in terms of their gambling activity.
I don't exactly watch him, but how does he conduct himself when streaming? How did the advertising happen? I believe we can hold streamers accountable to some extent if they have some influence on how their viewers should or should not do something. I'm not talking about giving monetary donations whenever a terrible case happens to their viewers, but they should conduct themselves better in the future. Sadly I don't think that's going to happen with narcissistic/psychopathic streamers.

I think improving viewer's critical thinking is probably the best way to prevent something like this. The platform probably can do more than just a warning that the user can close easily if they are serious about preventing suicide etc. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen unless there's a strict law related to that. They will likely follow the money and do the bare minimum as usual.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Yes, I totally agree to what you just said above, because if there is anybody to be blame for this young man's death, "Adin Ross" is the rightful person to be blame for haven indirectly made his followers addicted to gambling while trying to experiment most of the tips and strategies they may have watched him doing in his videos. And secondly, the person who committed suicide is also partly to be blamed, because nobody forced him to gamble and lost, which I'm sure must have been the main reason which prompted him to committing suicide, as he ought to gave gambled only with an amount he could always afford to lose, but yet due to greed, he went extra miles, and now the only option he thinks was suicide. However, May his gentle soul Rest In Peace, and this should be a lesson to everyone not to practice everything you watch online.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.
Streamers should not be seen as real gamblers. It is true that they are endorsed by the gambling site and they pay them huge amount of money. It is not something that is hidden. People should not be gambling with huge amount of money, they should know that gambling is very risky. People only think of the good side of gambling and not thinking of the negative consequences. I do not have the streamers to blame if I can not blame the reason that gambling sites are existing but the gamblers themselves are to be blamed of greedy nature. When I was addicted, not steamers that got me addicted but I was just addicted myself. Sorry to the boy's family, they will be in pain by now.

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This further worsens the image of the gambling industry because things related to gambling such as murder, violence or domestic violence, harassment and so on, ordinary people will blame gambling.
In fact, it's because of their own stupid carelessness, and I don't really care about negative gambling-related news even if it's just manipulation or whatever. However, ordinary people will assume or judge that the gambling industry is the problem.
And thats why gambling does really have that kind of negative image in most community or having that common bad impressions towards it because it would really be usually be that always be attached when it comes to
addiction,crime, suicide and other negative things on which we know that once the community sees up these things then they would really be focusing into those negatives and wouldnt be caring about its true reason of its existence.  As for these streamers then we do really know about their job and on how they do make money and doesnt matter if they do make use of fake money but still it is one of the most common method for
companies on making use of it to have that kind of effective marketing.

In regarding about problems then we do know that once you cant really be able to control it anymore then this is where you would really be thinking about having suicide
as for some people do really sees this as the easiest way on resolving those problems on which this is something that you would really considering but this is
really just that a foolish move.

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really sad news to read.
Unfortunately in these cases it would be better to seek help because it is always possible to find a solution.
the streaming of "controversial" content such as these linked to gambling/casino will certainly be modified in the future with more rules and restrictions.
I agree that some should be removed since they are showing only a fiction and not really events.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.
Thanks to God you realized that it was a very bad day for you, all days can never be good because that's life for everyone, many times you have to make some decisions that is hard and that's what makes you who you are.
If you can make good decisions and stay by it, it makes you who you are, like the streamer gambler that committed suicide because of his bad days, his decision shows that he's isn't a person that can make good decisions. It's not a bad idea to loses your money in bets but it's very terrible when you commit suicide because you have lost your money in games. There's nothing on earth that can make be compared to ones life.

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Everyone is responsible for all their actions, including when they really enjoy streaming gambling, they will be very tempted to try it too, but unfortunately many people don't realize that what the streamer gets from his broadcast doesn't reflect what his viewers will also get because streamers often only play with money from the casinos that sponsor them. so that when streamers lose it won't hurt them, unlike the audience whose emotions and finances will be affected if they lose, so the streamer should also tell the audience that what they get will be different for each individual so that when the audience gambles they already understand the risk of not getting anything because they don't get according to what was expected, or not the same as what streamers get.
Biggest mistake is actually gambler himself who fails to control himself and cannot resist the temptation of wanting to gamble when watching various broadcasts of gambling sessions carried out by streamers.
Those who are streamers use various methods to attract gamblers to follow what they do with the aim of making money, but there is no coercion or invitation to gamble so that if something bad happens to gambler then it is his own fault.
Indeed, watching gambling broadcasts with various successes and big wins is very interesting and can even give gamblers feeling of confidence that they will be able to get similar wins.
However, this is the starting point for mistakes that can cause various complicated problems and gamblers must be able to realize this and be willing to think little more clearly that they are not streamers who can win easily at any time.
An accomplished gambler can only increase his chances with predictions and strategies but this is not guaranteed, it is clearly different from streamer who makes various efforts to get big win.
After all, no streamer will broadcast his defeat and this is one of the things have to think about when see streamer who always wins.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Another sad story, I guess that's why there's never enough talk about responsible gambling. People, especially young people, need to know how dangerous gambling is if they have no control over it.

And as for streamers they are here to stay. There will always be people like this streamer, and there will always be platforms for them to share this kind of content. I don't think it's just gambling, there are a lot of streamers that have toxic content, I don't support and don't follow any streamers, but that's the "new normal". They are making a lot of money and people watch them. If people don't follow and watch them, they won't even exist.


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Another sad story, I guess that's why there's never enough talk about responsible gambling. People, especially young people, need to know how dangerous gambling is if they have no control over it.
This may not be possible to everyone because not everyone are not greedy and able to control the way they are gambling and be gambling in a responsible way. Some people will see gambling as a way to make money and prefer to just have that mentality and using it to gamble. They will think they can make money from gambling and that will drive them to gamble to make money but instead they will be losing and thinking that they will recover back the loss which is just an addiction. This is a sad story but what is more sad about it is that this will not be the last.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

His reaction is probably due to the fact that news like this will affect his streams since he earn through gambling content while the news is all about showing dark side of gambling effect that might turn off his followers. I’m not defending his action he is the type of person that is arrogant as his character when he streams.

I’m not expecting him to show some sad reaction because it will be out of character for him.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

His reaction towards the news doesn’t reflect to the stream he produced which is the sole basis whether he deserves to be on kick platform or not. I find his stream entertaining as a fellow gambler. I don’t about his opinion about different matter because I don’t watch him for his opinion but to the way he delivers his stream.

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March 20, 2024, 11:15:30 AM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This is why some countries are in fear of exposing gambling ads to their citizens, gambling isnt illegal in most countries but they forbid gambling promotions and adverts in the public, it will simply take a lot of lives, and many people are weak when it comes to thinking for themselves, they can take their lives or commit grave crimes.

I have never been pushed my streamers before because I know what's happening behind the scenes, streamers don't lose any money, they are either faking the casino wins or they are using money contributed to them through their fans to gamble.

If streamers lose every penny they won't feel anything, but that doesn't mean you will feel the same way if you take such a risk, remember that someone is feeding them the money, not you, so whatever you lose is on you, lack of understanding is what makes this person took his own life, there is no money thats worth anyone's life.


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March 20, 2024, 11:28:43 AM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  

You are some how right, these streamers are given free money on the house tab to play whatever games...win or lose and keep showing  these big payouts that they won and their viewers believe this is possible for them to win, but then again I believe these guys do put disclaimers to avoid the finger pointing and let's also not forget there is an aspect of due diligence especially that gambling is for person's above the age of 18 who are supposed to have the element of knowing right and wrong or differentiating fake from real.
Otherwise, it's unfortunate a life was lost because of the problem of gambling addiction... perhaps all gambling platforms need a gambling time out to allow people to reset.

This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.
Not sure if this is justified to be honest!!! Simple solution is to ensure the audience is over a certain age to ensure everyone has the ability to make their own choices...

Btw, If they ban streamers affiliated to gambling, then we might as well ban gambling ads on television, billboards , newspapers etc because all this leads to getting more players to gambling ..

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March 20, 2024, 11:43:26 AM
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This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

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March 20, 2024, 12:12:05 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

They should be allowed only if they abide by a code of conduct and use a lot of disclaimers so they are not allowed to speak whatever they want and as such to be impacting people with low self esteem as only people with low self esteem use dramatic measures like taking their own life.

I have never even thought about it and I have been with just 30 cents in my pocket with a family to feed and lots of debt to pay yet I thought whatever happens I will solve this situation.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.

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March 20, 2024, 02:41:20 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.

AFAIK Eddie own the Kick platform which is dedicated for gambling streaming. Additionally, Adin Ross is big streamer partner of Stake which is the Kick platform dedicated to use for gambling streaming. I doubt that they take down their huge asset like Adin but rather(maybe) they will just give him a warning but not to the point of kicking him out.

Most of the streamers have a different jerky attitude like trainwreck and xposed. Eddi like them the way they are because that’s what the viewer like.

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March 20, 2024, 02:43:55 PM
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Even if you talking about just (Adin-Ros) you are wrong.

We already have many people who are from normal people (like gamers, etc) streaming about (Gambling) once they got a deal with casino. The other problem is we need to take a look on CASINO too, because they chasing new people by targeting non-audiens gambler (especially a streaming content are not originally about gambling). I don't mind, If they sponsor (Steve, XPOSED, Roshtein and other gambling streamer) because these streamer is originally streaming about gambling. So mostly the audience are gambler as well, the problem are non-gambler streamer sponsor.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Kick will soon take down these gambling streamers if they keep doing this, they are insensitive to their followers they will not offer sympathy or even condolences if Kick, kick them out on their platform, and they have no platform to stream their live gambling streamers they will soon lose their income.

They are deceptive, in how they promote the gambling platform if you're a newbie you are in danger of getting hooked up on gambling, this is why I don't watch streamers and I don't recommend these streamers.
If these people would really be just making use of their common sense then they wont really be ending up on having that kind of addiction on seeing these live streamers on regarding about gambling.
It is really just that mind boggling that they could really be easily get hooked up with these streams because if you do really just simply make use of your own common sense then you would really be easily be able to spot in or even how i do see these streams to be that interesting? Due to those big wins because of that huge amount bet for each roll and hitting up jackpots?
Somewhat people are really that easily be getting fooled and this is why having this kind of marketing is really that still effective because there are still those people who do get influenced by this.

Its true that these influencers should really be kicked out and never ever would be letting to have those kind of streams. I dont know if Twitch did make some revoking those decisions
with those kind of streams on which i could say that it is really just that ethical.

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what a poor soul. this is the reason why gambling can lead to something bad. no one wants that someone will take their own life just because of gambling. moreover, he is still very young and has a long future ahead, it is very sad to see a young person commit suicide because of his addiction.

that's why it's important to campaign for responsible gambling practices and gambling education, so that bad things like this can be reduced or even eliminated.

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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.

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Gambling Addiction put people in serious problems but still people still take other people's experience for granted instead to learn from it .addiction is real and gamblers needs to understand this. The danger of getting addicted should be the reason why gamblers needs to be very careful with the way they involve themselves in gambling.  Gambling is very risky and can't be predicted,  it will be unwise for one to play with excessive money thinking it will definitely be a win. The risk in gambling is very high , it is better for people to play a lower amount that they can afford to lose, even if anything happens it won't be a problem to one.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, it's not in my capacity to judge someone whatever their job. no exception, for streamers. however, as long as the platform that is their media does not prohibit it and no rules are violated, they have the right to do what they do, in this case their job is to be a streamer. Regarding cases like the one told in this thread, what is ridiculous is someone who commits suicide because he lost his gambling. this is where we have to remember, and have an understanding of gambling itself. what gambling means to us, everyone has different assumptions and thoughts. well, there are various cases in the form of gambling that end in tragic stories. Suicide cases over gambling are not something we have heard recently throughout our discussions about gambling. so, in this case I don't have the capacity to interpret someone. It should be the viewers who are smarter in their responses when watching streamers' broadcasts.

To be honest, I rarely see streamers broadcasting their gambling. I would rather have a real discussion than witness something we don't know. I mean, is this streamer actually spending personal money. or, it is paid by a specific casino platform. The point is, if indeed there should be many cases like this. Moreover, the percentage is very high, maybe the platform provider should increase its regulations regarding gambling streamers. Well, and that's beyond my control or assumptions. So, I leave all of that to the community to judge.

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March 20, 2024, 03:23:07 PM
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This highlights how important rules and responsibilities are in the online streaming industry, especially regarding shows that involve gambling. And of course, Adin Ross, who is one of the famous streamers, has quite a large influence on his audience, also on the promotion of gambling in his content, which could have a negative impact on his audience, especially vulnerable people.

An apathetic action taken by editor Adin Ross regarding the news about a fan who committed suicide, this shows a lack of sensitivity to circulating and serious issues. Of course, this can raise questions about content ethics and responsibility in the streaming industry. And individuals who are indifferent to the negative impact of the content they create, of course individuals like this are not on stage, because it can endanger users and can damage the reputation of platform itself.

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March 20, 2024, 03:29:04 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

I don't expect them to publicize this news since its a disheartening breaking news that led to someone taking his life, this will make other feels about a negative impact of gambling on ones life to the extent of taking life, though this gambler made his own decision in going for that as his own choice, but it was wrong and serves a bad impression for the media to air this sad event to the public because many will see the negative effect of gambling being projected in such manner and be disappointed.
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
What I expect is that a disclaimer be made visible to pass the responsibilities of what people do with the information to them. He style of presentation, who often appear as being controversial, may just be part of his uniqueness even though he seems to go too extreme. I wouldn't hold it on him for another of his follower taking his life, there is really no justification for that. With a disclaimer, followers should understand the importance of maintaining their sanity while consuming the content.

This is not the first time someone is taking his life with even awkward reason. We must not ban people or activities just because people who are sick could not know how to control their emotions. We have heard of issues of supporters of a team being attacked for merely being supporters. Should the team whose supported attack others be banned for the actions of their supporters? Even though these two scenarios may not exactly be the same, I'm sure you should be able to get the message it is conveying.  People should take their mental health seriously, this is the simple truth.

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March 20, 2024, 04:29:16 PM
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Completely depressing news, in my opinion. Mental health is seriously looked away when comes to the well being of people. It would seem most of the times people focus on physical health and do not care on the mental well being of others or even themselves.
We could debate what the percentage of responsibility of those streamers is when comes to sad stories like this one, but it is not only  about the awareness, promotion or advertisement of gambling on the internet or in streaming platforms like Kick/Twitch.

No mentally sound person would have ending themselves as an option after losing money on a casino. So besides some restrictions which you guys are talking about, I believe it would more constructive for the quality of life of people if society as a whole did not stigmatize mental problems and the government provided mental healthcsre to people who think about hurting themselves.

Whoever this person is, I hope he is resting and is in a better place, regardless of his religion or lack of it. 😔

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Power of "Influence".
Unfortunately, not all streamers especially gambling promoters are concerned of such instances simply because they are being paid to advertise and encourage for a particular platform. Sad reality is that they are doing it to earn money, which is a right motive but a bit off with the method to achieve such purpose. They could at least not make gambling a 'must try' activity perhaps with promotions showing how easy it is to win, wherein in reality there's no such thing as easy when it comes on gambling. I cannot put all of the blame to the promoter or even with the gambling provider 'coz no matter how we look at it they are just doing their 'job'. This boils down for us audiences to be vigilant and responsible of our actions.

It is okay to bet sometimes as long as there'll be moderation. If you are already having assumptions of getting rich in gambling then be cautious of gambling. A strong assumption requires strong will and determination to make it happen. In this instance, you're more likely to bet huge mount for the sake of getting huge in return. Keep in mind that no matter how you wanted things to be in favor on your end, if you're not lucky then nothing will happen. Be preventive of putting yourself into a situation that will bury yourself to the deepest financial state.

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March 20, 2024, 05:25:47 PM
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It seems to me that each of us chooses our own path. And if someone decides to commit suicide because of a loss in a casino, he was just weaker than the circumstances.

There have always been such people and their problems are not only related to gambling. Someone commits suicide because of debts, someone because of unrequited love, someone foolishly just deciding to check what is there behind the line of life.

In my opinion, this is natural selection and there is no escape from it. Blame someone for it? Unfortunately, I can not give an exact answer because when making such a decision a person analyzes several circumstances at once, not just one.

I sincerely feel sorry for the relatives of suicide victims. I wish they had thought about their grief before deciding to commit suicide.

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March 20, 2024, 05:44:27 PM
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That's really sad for someone's fan to take his own life because of someone not listening to you. I do hope that these people in power that have a stream and reach try to see and be empathetic toward people who might be struggling with something. They should be controlled and accountable for what he is doing because of the fact that there are a lot of people who probably look up to him. It's a responsibility IMO.

Right. It's just heartbreaking when a fan feels so ignored that they do something like this. Streamers and influencers need to step up and realize the impact they have. They should be more empathetic and responsible with their content, especially knowing how many people look up to them. It's not just about views and likes,  it's about caring for their audience especially those who might be going through a rough patch. And platforms should definitely do more to keep tabs on what's being put out there to avoid spreading harmful stuff

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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Bro this is extreme.

No, I did not mean anything violent. I just think that just as we got rid of some infectious diseases, such as the plague, (by better sanitation, hygiene, medical advancements...) so we need to find a permanent solution for problem gambling among young people. In the same way that rats were once the main cause of the spread of vicious diseases among people, today we have streamers who promote gambling, which can have dire consequences.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Those guys are bad actors although they are up to they own business but the Truth is that, they are not being truthful to the audience and there is no any form of risk warning from their part so their followers thinks that as the fake bets they are streaming are winning same it is in real life, but when the attempt to apply same approach to they own betting they end up losing what they can not afford to lose and then slid into depressions.


I don't follow any of the streamers since I already have the knowledge of how they operate and what to expect in reality from gambling, so for that let they go to hell with all the lies they preach with fake money and fake winnings just to promote they own trends

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March 20, 2024, 08:30:11 PM
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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.
Influencers and advertisers who promote gambling frequently do so in a deceptive or misleading way. They may disregard the risks involved or make false promises about the potential rewards. Not just the influencers, Many gambling companies also use predatory marketing practices to lure people in. They may offer freebies or bonuses to get people started, and then gradually increase the stakes, making it harder and harder to walk away. This is a serious problem.

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This is a bit of a complicated situation in my opinion because in the end, when a streamer is gambling and broadcasts it to a large audience, it will definitely become a situation where it will be followed but the mistake in this case is that the fans should also be able to control their gambling situation because something like this could not have happened if they were selective about gambling so as not to make addiction spread to themselves.
This is not entirely the streamer's fault but it does not mean that he is also not at fault because he is guilty of not reminding his followers where gambling can make the situation worse, so it is important to remind each other to limit themselves in every gambling that is done because after all this is an important thing that we must do.
I am sorry for those who did commit suicide whether it is new or old news but in the end this should be a lesson that sometimes ending life just because of a problem will not solve the problem but instead create new problems so be wise for all of us in thinking about something so as not to be controlled by lust.

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Most of these streamers are really young. When you give someone at that age this kind of money and fame, they are bound to misuse it. They are getting paid millions for doing what exactly? I have watched clips of a couple of their livestreams and they do and say nothing productive. Adin Ross is quite the controversial character, unfortunately he has a large community online and teenagers make up the majority of his audience. I do not have a problem with promoting legitimate gambling casinos, that’s his job but his reaction to the sad news shows how little he cares about his followers. It’s no surprise that most influencers have no sense of responsibility for what they choose to say and promote.  

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March 20, 2024, 08:40:59 PM
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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

It is a very sensitive topic, I would say delicate, but you have to know how to play and know how to say some things, a normal influencer has to always have a very High spirit, and that is something that you have to do all the time, for Therefore, when we are people who are generating some money through work like this, we must Know very well that things will sometimes turn ugly and go wrong, we must have enough moral strength to get out of any adversity, We live in a system where we are able to get out of adversity very well, except that we live in a world where everyone wants to point us out for doing things that others believe are wrong, but that those people do do.

It is a thought that someone commits suicide because they are lacking the bond of faith and love that is life, life is so beautiful to take it away that sometimes I think that people who commit suicide are because they are influenced by many bad Things.


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Aww, sad and awful. I think that most streamers need to always remember their fans that they should only gamble with what they can afford to lose. Platforms like kick and twitch, they can't casinos sponsoring streamers to have them advertised on their streams and contents. It is not going to stop so there's no way to stop that unless the streamer changes his way and decides not to advertise anymore. And us being part of the gambling community, as promoters of casinos too and at the same time gamblers, we have to consider ourselves and needs to check every time that we're not feeling well. Maybe there's already something wrong from within that we can't realize it the earliest but in the long run, that what we have noticed is already having a heavy impact to our lives. It's hard to say that we should just stop when we cant' take the losses but we don't have the same tolerance as these victims of their own misfortune that led to something terrible such as ending their own lives. We don't want this to happen to anyone and that's why if we see someone who's struggling then we can approach them and have it reminded to gamble moderately.

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The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 
Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

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March 20, 2024, 09:05:13 PM
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In real sense, or reality per say, we can necessarily blame gambling streamers for whatever fate that befalls any of their fans, for I personally have always had this believe that a man is the moulder and author of his or her own destiny, when watching streamers do what ever they do on live stream, I believe they never force anyone to do the same thing they do, viewers still have their liberty to choose to, or not choose to do that which they have watched the streamer do.

So, in the nutshell, I am not saying that what Adin (or what ever he's called) did is right by dismissing the death of his fan who committed suicide in such a manner that he did, for I believe that he should have showed a little concern and payed some respect to the dead, but in the end, we all are captain of our life and decide how to live it decide what to do and what not to do, and actually, It is not any of his fault that his fan had to take his own life, that was completely the fan's decision and a poorly made one at that.

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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

Don't say such thing, some people have fragile heart that melt when they encounter little challenge and some of them have not experienced such kind of difficulties in life. I can't even imagined myself taking my own precious life when there are plenty of life to be enjoyed, I will rather watch me see the world talk about my mistake than taking my own life because nothing in this world is worth taking your own life. Sometimes, I think people forget to have hope when they are down.

I think it's high time streamers are held accountable for people they influence into betting, I wonder what happened to the gambling is for fun before some people take harsh decisions especially when it comes to taking their own life, they don't even think about the people they are going to hurt when they are away.

It is a very sensitive topic, I would say delicate, but you have to know how to play and know how to say some things, a normal influencer has to always have a very High spirit, and that is something that you have to do all the time, for Therefore, when we are people who are generating some money through work like this, we must Know very well that things will sometimes turn ugly and go wrong, we must have enough moral strength to get out of any adversity, We live in a system where we are able to get out of adversity very well, except that we live in a world where everyone wants to point us out for doing things that others believe are wrong, but that those people do do.

It is a thought that someone commits suicide because they are lacking the bond of faith and love that is life, life is so beautiful to take it away that sometimes I think that people who commit suicide are because they are influenced by many bad Things.


Lets consider out other factors too on why people do really commit out suicide and not everything should really be getting blamed into those influencers considering that they are really just that doing their job.
It is really just that these kind of suivide situation for those people who do become that addicted is that not all things would really be that be blamed into the influencer itself on which we do know that
each of us does have that kind of so called way of thinking on things on which it would really be that so impossible that you cant really be able to make out decisions for yourself whether you are
that be stopping on doing gambling because you have lost too much or would really be playing since you are really just that spending on the amount which you can afford to lose.
It would really be just that basing up on how you would really be making up decisions because its impossible that a certain person wouldnt really be having into.

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March 20, 2024, 09:55:44 PM
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Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction
After reading the news completely, I have learned that when any addiction causes a mental disorder, then automatic aversion to that addiction is created. A streamer's repeated streaming about gambling and criticism by netizens may have caused him to develop a negative attitude toward gambling and lose all control over himself, so he committed suicide.
When such an addiction instead of giving people pleasure, when they face hatred, people do not have control over that addiction, instead they find easy ways to commit suicide and kill themselves. There are many gamblers in our society who became so deeply addicted to gambling that now most of them are seen as drug addicts. So I cannot in any way consider a bad addiction like gambling as a means of entertainment or income.

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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.
You'll never understand them. I don't want to commit such and it's not on my radar but, these people that have reached the peak of their emotional being that they can't get ahead of it and can't remove the thoughts that they're thinking at that point.

Most of the situations that I have read about a gambler ending their lives were like they've been in debt and in just a few spin or bet, they lose it all.

They don't know where they're going to get their payment but it's their problem and hard to heal from that. Such situations are easy to assess but if it's already personal and you're in the actual situation, it's hard to imagine how you'd deal with it when your mind is blowing and can't get the right thinking.

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March 20, 2024, 10:34:31 PM
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The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 
Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

Yes and also when they manage to get the audience that enters through the referral link that they share and I think they only spend time in terms of their work as a casino promotion agent because as you said and I think it is true that the money that we see is very large that they make the capital is actually money from the casino or you can say it is also fake money that cannot be withdrawn and can only be played, but it doesn't matter because their goal is to make the audience tempted by the big wins they managed to get which in the end is what makes people enter through the referral link that is shared.

On the other hand I don't know if there are other funds or other income they get but what I know for sure is that they will get a large enough fee for their agreement with the casino and after that they will also get an additional bonus from the number of gamblers who lose, or simply put they get a few percent share when the gamblers who enter through the referral link they share lose, and yes maybe the problem for them is in terms of subscribers, because that can reach more people to watch the shows that are done.

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The society gets influenced easily, especially when there is a fake hope of getting rich from a particular thing. This is why it is easy for those influencers to lure people into gambling, because they are after their own pocket, and for that reason these influencers can just lie and lead people astray. Gambling has being a vice that is currently used to destroy the future of youths that gambles for profit, because when they can no longer cope with their losses, they commit suicide thinking that it is the only way out.
Influencers and advertisers who promote gambling frequently do so in a deceptive or misleading way. They may disregard the risks involved or make false promises about the potential rewards. Not just the influencers, Many gambling companies also use predatory marketing practices to lure people in. They may offer freebies or bonuses to get people started, and then gradually increase the stakes, making it harder and harder to walk away. This is a serious problem.
Well then I think the problem is actually from the gamblers then, because I believe if you are discipline and strick with your gambling habit then all these promotions and promises wouldn't be of any challenges to you because you would already be on the mentality that you have a specific gambling rules which pushes you farther away from getting stuck in chasing losses or winnings in any casino that you involve yourself in gambling.

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The streamer should not be blamed, thos is because as a gambler one need to understand the health states, and knowing what risk you can take and that your health can handle, let say for someone who is having high blood pressure, he or she should stay away from anything that could trigger the heart to beat fast, and gambling results could definitely put someone under that kind of tension, so it best to stay away from gambling if you have any underlying health issues.

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March 20, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
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I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.
Sometimes most people add other life challenges to what they experience from gambling streams, which will place their depression on another level. So most people don't just commit suicide because they watch streamers lose games or because they play and lose a large amount of money to gambling.
 
But they do this after they have calculated everything they are passing through, and they might just think there is no point for them to stay alive again.
 
Better yet, they take their lives to stay alive and still continue that suffering. All such people need is someone who can talk them out of that and show them there is more to life than just taking their lives, which will cause their family more harm than they can ever imagine.

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March 20, 2024, 11:03:49 PM
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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

I agree that it's annoying, and somehow I feel bad that the streamer doesn't show any sympathy to that guy, at least, knowing the person is one of his avid fans and following him. But generally, it's not the streamer's fault that it happened. We don't know the real story behind it and maybe the person does have lots of problems already aside from gambling addiction.

I also don't like streamers but what a bullshit if we allow ourselves to be influenced by these streamers. It should be obvious from the start that these streamers, especially those who are gambling, only care for money. Why become weak and be under these streamers? We should be the ones to control our decisions, not them.
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I'm not sure how I feel about streamers because I do enjoy watching some of them. The content can be quite entertaining. I don't enjoy the big fake streamers such as xposed, trainwreckz(might be misspelled), Drake's fake stream for stake, Rosh, or any of the guys that are wagering $1000 or more per spin. Anyone who believes they are wagering that amount daily and not caring might not be ok in the head. They are doing a show for the gambling site and being paid for their time, the money you see being wagered is nothing but pure air.

The smaller streamers with real emotions involved are however very entertaining as the wins and losses they go through are directly tied in with the money they might make. Anyways, this isn't about my likes or dislikes.

The 1 thing I do like about a streamer such as trainwreckz is the fact that he tells people he is down millions and not to gamble. People should have to have some sort of disclaimer to let people know they are for entertainment only IMO. Might save someones life.

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March 20, 2024, 11:09:45 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

If you wanna explain to a 14 year old what fake lifestyle looks like point them to a gambling streamer for they are a perfect example of people living a mirage type of life. And this has really affected negatively the lens of the young people who follow these streamers on social media platforms about gamble, which has ruined them. The government has to call to order the attitude of these streamers because all it appears they care about is the money they making from whatever they chose to stream not putting into consideration the implications to their fans especially those with weak minds.
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March 20, 2024, 11:18:19 PM
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Am not a big fan of streaming gamblers ruining their streaming platform for both fun, building fan base and monetizing what they’ve built with the channel. It’s so not my thing although, I’ve streamed Drake once, it was fun but, not to the point were I would literally have the zeal or be pushed to go lookout for Drake’s stream.

They might do the most to there fans, having them believe in the inevitable, while the fans run into problems, they stay safe and have means to escape some negative effects that might stem from the process. In the event that these streamers aren’t responsible for what content they are putting out, gambling fans that streams these channels should take a great deal of being responsible for themselves. Don’t get pushed this way!

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March 20, 2024, 11:20:03 PM
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It’s so easy to put the bulk of the misery the victim went through before the unfortunate action of taking his own life. Understandably, these streamers that are affiliated with and promote online gambling sites play a significant role in spreading awareness as they both directly and directly draw and keep their followers into the world of gambling.

It was the victims actions that led to his demise. Streamers, however they entice their viewers in the effort to promote whatever can’t literally force anyone to gamble. Their streams and videos may probably entice and motivate people into gambling, it’s our choice to actually go through with gambling.
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There are streamers who are constantly reminding people that they should not gamble especially if they don't have the financial capacity to do so. There are also streamers out there who market their sponsors like there's no tomorrow, leading to other people believing that they can also get the same luck. Unfortunately, the decision still lies to those viewers and can make the necessary steps to avoid spiraling into debt or other financial problems caused by gambling. It's a very tragic story, but we as gamblers should always take this to our minds that streamers are mostly paid to do these types of promotion online, and that they have this safety net that not everyone of us have.

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March 21, 2024, 02:01:03 AM
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This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

Gamblers should have high and precise awareness of the risks in gambling so that when gamblers experience defeat they will not be mentally affected by the severe depression they are experiencing and gamblers must have a good mindset because every problem has a solution. , not by continuing to end his life. the problem will just be resolved.
And from the start, gamblers must be able to stay away from thoughts like that. If you can't, then it's best not to enter the world of gambling because the risks are very high.

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March 21, 2024, 02:11:16 AM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This is the consequences of being a gambling streamer because you will never know if you're influencing your viewers good or you are just putting them into a bad situation. Though of course we can not blame the streamers with this one since they are just doing their job and we still have our own choices when it comes to gambling, not unless the streamer forces you to gamble on a specific site.

There's a lot of news like this already and it's obvious that there is no solution yet because every gamblers have their own emotional capacity, and this is really a big challenge to every casinos and the government as well.

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There are streamers who are constantly reminding people that they should not gamble especially if they don't have the financial capacity to do so. There are also streamers out there who market their sponsors like there's no tomorrow, leading to other people believing that they can also get the same luck. Unfortunately, the decision still lies to those viewers and can make the necessary steps to avoid spiraling into debt or other financial problems caused by gambling. It's a very tragic story, but we as gamblers should always take this to our minds that streamers are mostly paid to do these types of promotion online, and that they have this safety net that not everyone of us have.
Even if they do that which is the bare minimum that they do, it's not enough because some people are so obsessed with their idol streamers that they're going to ignore everything that isn't favorable to them or that isn't being an example of a streamer, they'll continue to do what the streamers do because they want to make sure that they're keeping up with their lives, that's how it is with this people. I think that the streamer has the biggest responsibility because they are broadcasting their words and actions to a thousands of viewers and they're definitely going to be influencing some of them if not all of them. As much as I agree that it's the responsibility of the person not to be influenced, that's already like the cure stage in a disease and being a responsible streamer is the prevention part, there are some streamers that have principles that don't gamble or just won't do it and they knew that they can influence people into doing what they're doing and they don't like the idea that the people that are supporting them are becoming an addict because of them, if some streamers can do that even though the money is good, then it's possible to decline those offers.



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March 21, 2024, 03:04:23 AM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.
You literally made a good point dragging out the words "Examine" and the "Fake money". If you are in the same Iines with me as I may think, let those streamers with their  coalition platforms be thoroughly followed up with a research and authentic verifications to examine if actually yes, what the streamer is aided on the speculations by influencing the audience which basically attracts them to the platforms are reliable and realistic because most of these streamers are only coated on a sugary labels just for attractions but never tasted like one.
It is getting obvious that the so attractive demonstrations they displays to the audience on how to bet and win so easily is never the reality truth of the platforms.

So I am In support to suggest that whoever streamer and their platforms that displays of influences the public without portraying what it was displayed that attracted the audience should be looked Into.
Probably let their be a law guiding speculations that if a streamer streams on influencing the audience and they are not seeing those attractive features, such streamers and the representing platform should be penalized.

Truth be told, there is influential power in streaming which takes wreck controls of desperate and weak emotional bearers.

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Did read the content, and in our country, I know many noticed it already as well, but there are some online game streamers that turned out to be gambling promoters already. If anybody here is living on the same country as mine, and has played online games (MOBA), you know them as well. Aside from that, I've seen many influencers that are promoting gambling sites on their every video.

It's very sad to see a person killing himself just because he got addicted into something and in this case, it's gambling but TBH, these influencers aren't obliging us to gamble. They aren't forcing us to gamble. They are promoting it yes, but at the end of the day, it will be our decision if we will gamble or not. I'm not siding either one of them because like many others are saying here, these influencers must be eliminated, but at this rate where many are promoting it already, I don't think that it will happen unless these social media platforms will not allow any gambling sites to be promoted.

At the end of the day, these influencers aren't forcing their fans to gamble on the website they're promoting and at the same time, as fans we aren't obliged to gamble at all if we don't want to. Why? I mean if you want to support that influencer, you can just watch his videos right? Why going to a point where you will also gamble on the platform he/she is promoting especially if you aren't gambling at first place. Quite sad to see a fan killing himself/herself because he/she got addicted, but it is what it is and whatever happens, we will see these types of content online where famous influencers will constantly promoting gambling websites for the sake of MONEY.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.


It's really alarming seeing and hearing such all the time,they know they can't afford it,they will go into it,they can't gamble responsibly they won't adhere to,they know what gambling is made for they won't buy into it.and that's what is resulting to them commiting suicide cause they must have gamble with a huge amounts or probably loan from anywhere just to keep up the game but they end up loosing as well as commiting suicide cause they feel there's nothing they should live for again as they must have gotten that big loss.

But this is not the right and best way to keep going as a lot of gamblers will keep falling victims,it's a decision making game that involves discipline to oneself,I don't gamble this way and I have control of it ,but like you said you want to quit gambling it's a hold decisions to take cause akot of people keep saying such,nobit won't happen to me until it surely will.
Like they say make hay while the sun shine,make a decision earlier rather than regretting later on.

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March 21, 2024, 07:22:42 AM
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Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

This is a terrible news and I wish there was more things being done to prevent suicides. It doesn't really matter if it comes from gambling addiction, problems in a relationship, getting fired, or any other big issues in life where many people are struggling with. Suicides are terrible because it not only ends the life of the person suffering, it also hurts all the people around him. Being a family member or a close friend of a suicide victim is devastating, because you will ask yourself all your life if you could have done something differently and helped more. The government should invest more in the prevention and therapy to help people in need. As for gambling streams, I think they are fine as long as there are big disclaimers that it's just a form of entertainment and people will struggle to replicate the same kind of returns. When it comes to casino streams, the influencers usually have a relationship with the casino and either get some free bankroll or a fixed payment to promote their games. The large number of views on gambling streams shows that people are interested in them, but the streaming platform needs to make sure that strong rules are in place and all the streamers and influencers are following them.
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Gambling addiction is ruining the lives of people who bet to win more, become mentally disturbed and commit suicide when they lose. Gambling is considered a bad disease in society due to the increase in suicide rates it is more common in adolescents and young adults. If you see that there is a chance of loss in gambling then it is never possible to solve these problems by destroying your good life by refraining from this sin.

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When gambling a gambler will only lose money and as a result of losing money they will bet more money to recover that money and again when they lose money they will lose all the money. After losing all the money they borrow money to gamble and when they lose that money he will be mentally broken. That may have happened to the person mentioned above. The person you mentioned may have been so addicted to gambling that he gambled until his money was gone and when his money was completely gone he either didn't stop gambling but instead went into more debt and gambled resulting in a Unable to settle the debt, he chose to commit suicide. Excessive gambling results in his family losing their children if he is married his wife children losing their own people. It is better to refrain from gambling than to cause harm to oneself by gambling in this way.

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March 21, 2024, 08:50:58 AM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

A gambling addict took his own life because of his addiction. What Adin Ross has to do with it? And you are suggesting to ban people like him?

I tell you what, people with many followers are always getting those accusations. It used to be like this 50 years ago too. If we went the way you are suggesting we would ban everything that is popular. That's what I think.

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Gamblers should have high and precise awareness of the risks in gambling so that when gamblers experience defeat they will not be mentally affected by the severe depression they are experiencing and gamblers must have a good mindset because every problem has a solution. , not by continuing to end his life. the problem will just be resolved.
And from the start, gamblers must be able to stay away from thoughts like that. If you can't, then it's best not to enter the world of gambling because the risks are very high.
Not many gamblers have a high awareness related to their gambling activity because once people involved in the gambling, they will gets tempting with many gambling games inside the casino. They will slowly forget to control themselves while playing gambling because the fun that they gets when playing gambling. That makes many people losing much money without having a chance to recover their lose and if they don't realize about that, their loses will becomes bigger. They will gets depress when their lose becomes bigger and don't know how to prevent the next losses. If they already have awareness and always practice their self-control, they will not have the big lose and will prevent the lose not to become bigger. They knows that they must be careful when playing gambling so they can treat gambling as an entertainment.

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March 21, 2024, 12:13:49 PM
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Take streamers serious at your own risk. Streamers wiĺl gamble with huge amount of money, beat all risks attached and still win lots of money to the amazement of many. Such a sight is really captivating and interesting to watch as many will watch with envy and  will even  wish they were actually the ones who won. Know this, most actions taken by streamers are staged. This actions are aimed at promoting the casinos. No one in their right mind should make streamers their role model or even be a fan to avoid being influenced because the end can really be disastrous.

A gambler who is really conscious of himself will never be tempted to gamble beyond his capability. Gamblers enter into troubles because they know what they can afford but will want to try their luck with something that is way beyond them. Adin Ross has done nothing wrong, he was only doing his job for which he is known for. The victim of addiction died out of his own carelessness. I just hope gamblers learn from these sad experiences and gamble responsibly.

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Take streamers serious at your own risk. Streamers wiĺl gamble with huge amount of money, beat all risks attached and still win lots of money to the amazement of many. Such a sight is really captivating and interesting to watch as many will watch with envy and  will even  wish they were actually the ones who won. Know this, most actions taken by streamers are staged. This actions are aimed at promoting the casinos. No one in their right mind should make streamers their role model or even be a fan to avoid being influenced because the end can really be disastrous.

A gambler who is really conscious of himself will never be tempted to gamble beyond his capability. Gamblers enter into troubles because they know what they can afford but will want to try their luck with something that is way beyond them. Adin Ross has done nothing wrong, he was only doing his job for which he is known for. The victim of addiction died out of his own carelessness. I just hope gamblers learn from these sad experiences and gamble responsibly.
The key on here is that you shouldnt really be tending to mimic out yourself to be like with those streamers on which you would really be pushing up yourself to limit that you should be betting on the same amount that they are betting or trying out to copy on how they would really be able to make those wins. On the time that you would really be something like this then you would really be that likely be ending up on getting that too desperate on which we do know that these influencers are really that having that huge bankrolls then you might be ended up on taking up some loan just to make yourself that having also that big bankroll too.
We do know that common problems do came from those common actions like taking up loans or spending your life savings.

On the time that problems becomes worst then this is the moment that you would really be having those kind of considerations on stopping but well it is already too late or
something that made out that huge impact or effect into your life on which the worst things that you would really able to experience and could be resulting into suicide.

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March 21, 2024, 12:37:24 PM
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Take streamers serious at your own risk. Streamers wiĺl gamble with huge amount of money, beat all risks attached and still win lots of money to the amazement of many. Such a sight is really captivating and interesting to watch as many will watch with envy and  will even  wish they were actually the ones who won. Know this, most actions taken by streamers are staged. This actions are aimed at promoting the casinos. No one in their right mind should make streamers their role model or even be a fan to avoid being influenced because the end can really be disastrous.

A gambler who is really conscious of himself will never be tempted to gamble beyond his capability. Gamblers enter into troubles because they know what they can afford but will want to try their luck with something that is way beyond them. Adin Ross has done nothing wrong, he was only doing his job for which he is known for. The victim of addiction died out of his own carelessness. I just hope gamblers learn from these sad experiences and gamble responsibly.

Reality state things out, there's no fingers to point with how the victim took his own life, the decision is all in the person's side Adin is just doing his job and for those who understand what streaming job was there's no blame as the person only doing his job and he's good from the industry or audiences that he choose, though it's sad to hear that someone died becuase of gambling but to pinpoint a person who's just practicing what he needs to do to make a living, that's should not be taken in his account.

Like what you said, gambler should use spare money or the amount that they can afford to let go then move forward whatever the outcome of their sessions, with that, there's no extra or exceeded amount to lose which can push you to the limit and like what happened taking your own life becuase you can' carry the load.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Lol I have to admit that I didn't know about the platform "Kick" until I read your post now. Did a quick search and found that they are paying millions for contracts with well known streamers from Twitch, which I do of course know.

Calling a suicide "old news" is probably never a good idea, let alone in a dismissive tone. But in this case it is even worse when it is really known that the suicide was the consequence of a gambling addiction of someone who followed a streamer mostly streaming casino slots. I mean this would get me thinking about my actions at least. Streaming casino slots is rightfully highly controversial. All addictions work the same way in the brain and whether it be alcohol or drugs, gambling can be as bad in terms of the processes in the brain and how it can harm a human being.

You could argue that gaming could be harmful as well if people start losing control over their social lives. That's true, but when you are a gaming addict, usually the damage you undergo can be repaired in a reasonable amount of time. If someone loses control over gambling and destroys their financial situation, this may have life-long consequences and can perhaps not be repaired in a reasonable amount of time.

Since I don't know all the circumstances, I can't really judge what exactly was the case here. But if I had a free choice as to what I would like to successfully stream on a huge platform, gambling and casino slots would not be on my list. Everyone is responsible for themselves, but I couldn't be passionate and happy about streaming something that I know will guaranteed destroy some lives that can't manage to control their habits.

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       -   I don't know this @Adin Ross; as far as I understand, if I'm not mistaken, he is a stream influencer who promotes online gambling, am I right? For sure, some of his followers are addicted to gambling because of his promotion of some of the links he gave about gambling casinos.

Here in our country, the influencers or streamers who promote gambling online are rampant; almost all of them have ruined the lives of ordinary people; even minor children have become addicted to or learned to gamble because of them. yet most of what they promote are still illegal casinos. So they should only be given an example that should not be imitated.

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March 21, 2024, 12:54:51 PM
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How I love that Gambling streamers should take responsibilities in those sadness that comes from their works in gambling industry because indeed that they are the reason why these happens.
sadly  this is still happening in my country up to now and I hate seeing addicted growing in my locations and even youngsters are being victim of their streams luring people to gamble.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.


Well you have to look at it at two (2) perspectives:

First, these streamers are making money by the advertisements that they were hired for. These advertisements can range from any kind of platform, whether it be sports, games, gambling, etc. At the end of the day, they are basically "hired" to advertise and it is their job to fulfill this obligation.

Second, streamers have also the obligation to determine which kind of advertisements they would allow on their channel. Naturally, they will pick an advertisement that has the highest offer they may be given. Despite this offer and money, they still have the obligation to know their audience and the implications of their actions.

With that being said, it can still be argued that Adin Ross is just doing his job. Necessarily, all the consequences of his advertisements should not be taken against him as every person is capable of deciding on their own. On the other hand, it may also be argued that there must be a limit on how a streamer advertises gambling given that this platform is very destructive due to addiction.

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Today, it is increasingly possible to observe the negative impact of gambling advertising on computer game streamers. Many of them are starting to show their viewers how easy it is to make money at the casino, without mentioning the risks and addiction.

This can lead to young people, imitating their idols, starting to gamble, not realizing that this can lead to serious financial problems. Unfortunately, such advertising creates a false impression of an easy path to success and wealth, which can lead to negative consequences for young people. It is important that streamers are aware of their responsibility to the audience and do not encourage players to participate in gambling without proper control.

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It's already a normal thing to blame someone else for other people's mistake? Shocked

If you're not able to become a gambler, don't gamble, block everything related to gambling.
If you're don't have a boyfriend or girlfriend, don't watch porn, no one ask to watch it.

Eating too much sugar can cause diabetes, is it the government fault to legalizing to sell sugar and sweets for public? Huh

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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

Prohibition is also relatively difficult for streamers because many platforms also want to have a competition, they also often turn a blind eye to issues such as gambling, as long as it is not excessive and disruptive, platforms will still allow a small corner for advertising but serious advertisements such as gambling will usually not be overly encouraged. Besides, it's hard to blame online streamers, they only advertise because of income, but the problem with addiction comes from the viewers' choices, viewers should understand better to avoid misunderstanding the advertisement

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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem

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I agree with you, ending one's life is of course a stupid act and in my opinion it is an act that should not be done, if a problem has occurred then we should be able to accept the risk of facing the problem and overcoming the problem is what we have to do, right? by ending one's life because that is an act of irresponsibility. maybe from the start it was wrong, they gambled excessively but were not prepared for the risks until the excessive pressure could not be accepted well, finally the choice they made was to end their life, this case is the same as what happened in my environment to young people who is still in his teens but is already addicted to gambling.

It's true what you said, when they are addicted to gambling, they will experience excessive mental stress and perhaps this will cause them to become depressed to the point of experiencing mental disorders or very fatal actions that can end their life. That's true, with incidents like this, I think it can be used as a lesson for us not to gamble excessively.

Gamblers should have high and precise awareness of the risks in gambling so that when gamblers experience defeat they will not be mentally affected by the severe depression they are experiencing and gamblers must have a good mindset because every problem has a solution. , not by continuing to end his life. the problem will just be resolved.
And from the start, gamblers must be able to stay away from thoughts like that. If you can't, then it's best not to enter the world of gambling because the risks are very high.

Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

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How I love that Gambling streamers should take responsibilities in those sadness that comes from their works in gambling industry because indeed that they are the reason why these happens.
sadly  this is still happening in my country up to now and I hate seeing addicted growing in my locations and even youngsters are being victim of their streams luring people to gamble.

That's sad; another gambler lost his life due to gambling addiction. The image of gambling is getting worse because of this news. As for other people, gambling actually helps because, for others, it not only gives stress relief but also gives fun.

Just don't let us overdo it with gambling, because when it's not controlled, we develop an addiction that other gamblers don't realize. But I hope other streamers will also be responsible because they are also the reason why other viewers can gamble because of their promotion, which is also mixed with creativity.



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March 21, 2024, 05:41:31 PM
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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem

Yes I agree with you that indeed some cases due to gambling is not a thing that always happens because it is an activity that is perivasi because the public's perspective on gambling is very negative along with more countries that do not legalize this activity so people prefer to be closed, about providing education to the public about gambling is good especially giving them an understanding that gambling is not a place to earn, but I think this idea has the potential to make people curious about something that is prohibited and maybe those who are too curious will try it.

Each person has a different mindset in responding to a problem and maybe those who choose to commit suicide due to the many defeats in gambling are typical of people who are too easily provoked or sensitive people who are easily emotional where they are really difficult to control themselves when experiencing something that is not in accordance with their expectations. As for what you're suggesting, yes it might be useful to reduce the likelihood of a gambler committing suicide due to gambling, but I don't think it will have much of an effect because as you said, there will be some gamblers who are completely introverted which means they probably wouldn't think of joining a support group or rehabilitation in secret.

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The alarming rise of celebrity gambling promotion, often targeting impressionable young audiences.  Imagine a charismatic influencer encouraging viewers to gamble, unaware of the potential consequences.

The lack of empathy displayed by some celebrities, like Adin Ross in the story, is particularly disturbing.  Focusing solely on financial gain while ignoring the potential for addiction and its tragic outcomes is a clear sign of misplaced priorities.

The emotional and financial vulnerability of young viewers is a crucial factor.  They might be easily swayed by celebrity endorsements, entering the gambling world without the maturity or self-control to navigate its risks responsibly.

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March 21, 2024, 08:22:49 PM
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With that being said, it can still be argued that Adin Ross is just doing his job. Necessarily, all the consequences of his advertisements should not be taken against him as every person is capable of deciding on their own. On the other hand, it may also be argued that there must be a limit on how a streamer advertises gambling given that this platform is very destructive due to addiction.

Yeah, I think you make some fair points.  From what I have seen, a lot of these streamers are not exactly truthful when it comes to that gambling stuff they do on screen and  they act like they are playing with real cash, but it turns out that is not true.  And getting kids hooked on gambling? That just isnt right.  Still I get that its a tricky thing to figure out how to handle.  But that gambling trap can ruin lives, no doubt, so we gotta think about some kind of guardrails.  I dunno what the perfect solution is, but clearly there is more nuance here than just a blanket ban or leaving it all be.

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Gambling platform should ban any gambling streams so that they can avoid there platform to be used by toxic streamers which doesn't think about what would be the result of their over exaggerating promotions to their viewers. We see a lot of this issues happening and hopefully they would not just take an action if there's something case like this happen but rather they became pro active if they see something not good happening and this kind of promotion is spreading like a virus on their systems.

They should follow what twitch did twitch did since it can make the life of their viewers or platform user better and they make sure that they are fine watching those reliable streamers that can really entertain them.

That's not going to happen, casinos often pay such streamers for promoting their services, it's easy to suppose that a large number of his fan base has an account there. As others already mentioned here as well as on Reddit, whether these streamers admit it or not, they're unbiasedly promoting gambling and casinos as a mean to make money, and this isn't surprising because it's literally immature youths posing that it's totally normal to be a gambling addict.

His response was also the cherry on top of the cake, how can someone be so apathetic towards the death of one of his fans? This proves that he only sees numbers, not people.Totally not okay.

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March 21, 2024, 09:17:34 PM
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If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.
There are so many news that are flying everywhere about people committing suicide which is very wrong.
We need to make always advise people around of the need to gambling education just like the way you implies. There are people that are very emotional little things could make them to keep thinking on what to do especially at a time when things are not going right. Some are very fragile and take decision based on their emotions and if we are not serious to help them, they could do something that would create more severe  to themselves without realizing the later consequences.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Some people has zero idea about something but because others are doing, they will want to follow the same path not knowing that some people are doing it for the passion and not the money but they are few though but we have them. Now, when they now start and it doesn't go as they expect, they make loss, they are stuck on that evidence to make back th money, they try and try and in that process addiction kicks in, the game becomes normal until they start to lose. This addiction stage is one of the most dangerous stage of gambling, have seen a guy I know took his own life because of a mistake he made gambling.

I don't know for others but I have seen life so tough and I don't think I can take my life for anything, it's not worth it, even if I don't have the money of the world, I cherish the small moments I have shared with my love ones and how I will put them in a lot of pain if I die prematurely.

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Today, it is increasingly possible to observe the negative impact of gambling advertising on computer game streamers. Many of them are starting to show their viewers how easy it is to make money at the casino, without mentioning the risks and addiction.


I saw most of them in the reels on Facebook and it seems like they are even making huge lies in their promotions by showing their viewers how easy to win the games they are promoting and they don't seem to care about their audience as long as they spread their lies everything was going on a plan for them. they don't even know the huge risk they are getting as well and also they are making huge mistakes when they fool their viewers because it will fire back to them with double the amount and interest, they get the real karma and this is what happened to those who fool their viewers, they are the one who gets affected with their lies.

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March 21, 2024, 10:47:48 PM
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I saw most of them in the reels on Facebook and it seems like they are even making huge lies in their promotions by showing their viewers how easy to win the games they are promoting and they don't seem to care about their audience as long as they spread their lies everything was going on a plan for them. they don't even know the huge risk they are getting as well and also they are making huge mistakes when they fool their viewers because it will fire back to them with double the amount and interest, they get the real karma and this is what happened to those who fool their viewers, they are the one who gets affected with their lies.

Come on man! Obviously, they’ll have to misrepresent things and in a lot of cases, outrightly lie to their viewers. The more people they bring in, the higher the money earned. Besides, why do some people blindly believe these streamers and whatever they promote. They’re being paid to promote such product or service; of course they’re going to do all they can to sell it to their fan base which includes misrepresenting a lot of things.
They know fully well that they’re lying to their followers but greed and selfishness has long taken over where responsibility and dignity once were. They only care about being paid and could care less about their followers who took their word for it.
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March 21, 2024, 11:44:33 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
First off, Adin Ross is a massive fuckface that does not deserve any form of respect, mercy, or love from anyone on the planet. You could say the same thing for his editor and the entire red-pilled community that supports behaviors like this.

Secondly, if you’re gonna look or ask for sympathy, you wouldn’t find it with a guy like Adin Ross or his squad of editors and motley crew. They belittle people for breakfast, dismiss massive issues like it’s nothing as long as it doesn’t bring them cash nor fame, and they don’t even harbor respect nor an iota of regard from the very community that they try so hard to fit in.

Sorry to hear about this guy who took his own life out of gambling addiction. This is what I’m talking about when I say your life’s gonna be ruined by gambling in one way or another if you don’t find a way to figure your shit out. Learn how to control yourself, stop seeking for other people’s approval or care, especially if their notice or influence pushed you to this particular situation anyway, and make sure that you control your gambling urges before it controls you.

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March 22, 2024, 12:54:19 AM
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I wouldn't put too much accountability on Adin or his team for what happened to the gambling fan just like how I don't put much blame on artists advertising alcohols and cigarettes. Countless lives are also lost as a negative effect of drinking and smoking too. The only thing is that streamers benefiting from viewership and sponsorships should be more careful of what they post on social media.

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Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

It is true that each person has a different mentality in responding to and resolving problems in their life, there are people who are strong and wise in dealing with problems and there are also people who are really mentally weak even if they only experience small problems. they were immediately carried away by emotions. Yes, I agree with your opinion, every time we dare to take action we must have a sense of responsibility for the risks we will face later and every time we make a decision we must really consider it carefully, don't be careless and don't be too hasty because of this behavior. . is the main thing that will be used in gambling with the aim of preventing big losses and preventing us from addiction.

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Take streamers serious at your own risk. Streamers wiĺl gamble with huge amount of money, beat all risks attached and still win lots of money to the amazement of many. Such a sight is really captivating and interesting to watch as many will watch with envy and  will even  wish they were actually the ones who won. Know this, most actions taken by streamers are staged. This actions are aimed at promoting the casinos. No one in their right mind should make streamers their role model or even be a fan to avoid being influenced because the end can really be disastrous.

A gambler who is really conscious of himself will never be tempted to gamble beyond his capability. Gamblers enter into troubles because they know what they can afford but will want to try their luck with something that is way beyond them. Adin Ross has done nothing wrong, he was only doing his job for which he is known for. The victim of addiction died out of his own carelessness. I just hope gamblers learn from these sad experiences and gamble responsibly.

Reality state things out, there's no fingers to point with how the victim took his own life, the decision is all in the person's side Adin is just doing his job and for those who understand what streaming job was there's no blame as the person only doing his job and he's good from the industry or audiences that he choose, though it's sad to hear that someone died becuase of gambling but to pinpoint a person who's just practicing what he needs to do to make a living, that's should not be taken in his account.

Like what you said, gambler should use spare money or the amount that they can afford to let go then move forward whatever the outcome of their sessions, with that, there's no extra or exceeded amount to lose which can push you to the limit and like what happened taking your own life becuase you can' carry the load.
When a boy or a girl becomes completely addicted to gambling and when he gambles excessively he not only harms himself but also harms his family. If a teenager or teenager becomes addicted to gambling at this age, they will directly pressure the family for the money they need for gambling, and by pressuring the family, they will try to manage the money in different ways. When the family agrees to pay him at some point he will threaten to kill himself and put more pressure on his family which will put more pressure on the family and he will be under a lot of stress. 

If gambling can be done responsibly at a certain age then gambling is fine but excessive gambling will not bring any good to a gambler.

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March 22, 2024, 06:42:39 AM
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When a boy or a girl becomes completely addicted to gambling and when he gambles excessively he not only harms himself but also harms his family. If a teenager or teenager becomes addicted to gambling at this age, they will directly pressure the family for the money they need for gambling, and by pressuring the family, they will try to manage the money in different ways. When the family agrees to pay him at some point he will threaten to kill himself and put more pressure on his family which will put more pressure on the family and he will be under a lot of stress. 

If gambling can be done responsibly at a certain age then gambling is fine but excessive gambling will not bring any good to a gambler.
That's their own fault, no one ask young people to gamble, many casinos already state make sure you're 18+ years old upon creating account.

The family need to brought them to rehabilitation, perhaps they can recover from their addictions, if not the family need to take a step to kick them from family members otherwise they will keep bring new problem to the family.

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March 22, 2024, 07:14:55 AM
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I don't get it. Is Adin Ross(or his editor) guilty about some gambler committing suicide? I agree that his editor was out of touch, but so what?
Saying "we are terribly sorry" won't change anything. Nobody forced that guy, who committed suicide to watch Adin Ross streams.
Maybe platforms like Kick and Twitch should ban gambling streamers completely. What if a guy commits suicide because he was in love with some girl on Onlyfans? Is the Onlyfans girl guilty because a guy committed suicide because of her?
Victims of online scams also take their own lives. I don't get this kind of behavior. OK, you lost some money, but life goes on and you will recover, what's the point of taking your life for such a BS reason.

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Yes, indeed all problems that occur have a solution, and if we can try well then there will be a solution even though the problem is big. but it cannot be denied that every person's mentality is different, there are people who have just been scolded a little and are already crying and there are those who are mentally strong, the same is with gambling. when the gambling is done excessively so that it causes bad effects which become excessive pressure which makes them mentally torment themselves, but it is their own doing then in my opinion it should be accepted, because if you dare to do something then you have to dare to take responsibility.

Doing research first can be done if we really have good thoughts, such as considering the actions we will take and seeing what ourselves would be like if we faced something related to defeat and victory, with gambling which will most likely only result in defeat. We have to be able to accept that well, because there are many cases of people who experience big losses because they cannot accept the reality that occurs, such as defeat which is clearly something that is bound to happen when gambling is done.

It is true that each person has a different mentality in responding to and resolving problems in their life, there are people who are strong and wise in dealing with problems and there are also people who are really mentally weak even if they only experience small problems. they were immediately carried away by emotions. Yes, I agree with your opinion, every time we dare to take action we must have a sense of responsibility for the risks we will face later and every time we make a decision we must really consider it carefully, don't be careless and don't be too hasty because of this behavior. . is the main thing that will be used in gambling with the aim of preventing big losses and preventing us from addiction.

Many gamblers who usually gamble do not consider the actions they will take, such as when they win, they tend to take rash actions by continuing to gamble and also increasing the amount of their bet because they want to get a bigger win. Indeed, when they win, the temptation becomes stronger. to continue gambling, because when we win we will think that the game is good and can give us a win back with an increased bet amount, but what often happens is that when this is done what happens with continued gambling is a loss and the winnings are lost again , it's annoying but it's true.

if we can't consider the action we are going to take, it usually ends in disappointment and if that continues then what will happen is excessive pressure, so that it can affect our thinking and our mental state, which if the pressure is excessive, we cannot accept it properly. OK, it will damage our mental and thinking which can make us stressed, but it is caused by our own actions, so if we have done it then we have to be able to accept everything, including the bad impacts and risks.

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March 22, 2024, 09:20:01 AM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

I support the motion, it would have been different if streamers are warning viewers to be a responsible gambler but I've never seen one do this before, the way they do their live video is directly targeting the audience with no remorse about what would happen if the viewers go all in on the casinos.

Even shit coins from crypto you tubers are used to telling their audience that this is not a financial advice, some even go ahead teaching how to DCA without getting rekt, but casino streamers are different, they don't tell people how risky gambling can be.

This is why I also believe that they are not taking risks with their own hard earned money, that the casino they are shilling are doing the funding for them, they don't give a F about what can happen to their viewers, all casino streamers should be targeted by the law.
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March 22, 2024, 09:48:51 AM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

If the Kick platform allows such gambling streamers then nothing we can do about it. They deserve it or not is non of our business. Besides, even if we blame the streamer for attracting the user which eventually leads to gambling addiction, should we blame the streamer itself? We should be the ones to control ourselves and not be influenced too much by these streamers. Besides, these streamers, even though we hate them, didn't force anyone to gamble but rather just inviting.

But in the end, I also support eradicating all gambling streamers but only those who are just doing gambling-related that easily without looking at the site reputation of what they advertised. I mean those streamers who are just streaming a certain gambling site without doing a background check if these sites are legit and reputable. There are lots of local gambling streamers like that in our place just to gather more views.
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

If the Kick platform allows such gambling streamers then nothing we can do about it. They deserve it or not is non of our business. Besides, even if we blame the streamer for attracting the user which eventually leads to gambling addiction, should we blame the streamer itself? We should be the ones to control ourselves and not be influenced too much by these streamers. Besides, these streamers, even though we hate them, didn't force anyone to gamble but rather just inviting.

But in the end, I also support eradicating all gambling streamers but only those who are just doing gambling-related that easily without looking at the site reputation of what they advertised. I mean those streamers who are just streaming a certain gambling site without doing a background check if these sites are legit and reputable. There are lots of local gambling streamers like that in our place just to gather more views.
Actually its their job on hooking up people and they've been paid to do that and its true that if ever someone do ends up on suicide because of too much gambling addiction then i dont see that streamers would really be getting all the blame in regarding into this stuff on which we know that you've been not forced on playing gambling in the first place. You were there and watching them and you've decided to make a deposit or register on the site and play like a madman. Ended up on having tons of loses and losing up tons of money on which simply shows totally wrekt in terms of finances then this is where problem do begins.

This is really just that actually be that depending on someones own decisions in life because if theres those people who do able to control and moderate themselves
then there would really be no such situation such as this. It all matters with your own control and with your own decisions because if you are really just that sensible
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March 22, 2024, 02:58:07 PM
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When a boy or a girl becomes completely addicted to gambling and when he gambles excessively he not only harms himself but also harms his family. If a teenager or teenager becomes addicted to gambling at this age, they will directly pressure the family for the money they need for gambling, and by pressuring the family, they will try to manage the money in different ways. When the family agrees to pay him at some point he will threaten to kill himself and put more pressure on his family which will put more pressure on the family and he will be under a lot of stress. 

If gambling can be done responsibly at a certain age then gambling is fine but excessive gambling will not bring any good to a gambler.
That's their own fault, no one ask young people to gamble, many casinos already state make sure you're 18+ years old upon creating account.

The family need to brought them to rehabilitation, perhaps they can recover from their addictions, if not the family need to take a step to kick them from family members otherwise they will keep bring new problem to the family.

Yes, it's all their own decision and based on their own consent, but on the other hand I can't be too sure that they really made a decision based on a good level of awareness along with a rational attitude in terms of considering before finally entering and getting involved in gambling, because looking at the impact they experienced I think we can already conclude that they came with the wrong understanding, this is regardless of age because I think it is unlikely for a teenager who wants to gamble to look first about the provisions provided by the casino about gambling is only allowed for the age of 18+.

On the other hand, if indeed the gambling activities carried out are known by the family then it is clear as you say that the family must move quickly to overcome this problem such as taking them to a rehabilitation center or to a psychological expert to restore their mindset to a more rational direction, and I am sure that the family will be very concerned about the good of their family members who have fallen into gambling (regardless of whether they are addicted or not) because however over time gambling can trigger many problems, especially if it is done by a minor whose mindset is still unstable.

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March 23, 2024, 05:08:33 AM
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if we can't consider the action we are going to take, it usually ends in disappointment and if that continues then what will happen is excessive pressure, so that it can affect our thinking and our mental state, which if the pressure is excessive, we cannot accept it properly. OK, it will damage our mental and thinking which can make us stressed, but it is caused by our own actions, so if we have done it then we have to be able to accept everything, including the bad impacts and risks.

Yes, it is true that anyone who will take action in their decision without careful consideration, the result will be nil and we will feel deep disappointment in what we have done and the relationship in gambling is when the gambler is a gambler who is careless in acting and does not think. With good common sense, it is possible that the gambler will experience many losses because he just thinks he can play and play and in pursuit of the uncertain winnings he gets.
Yes, agree with you because the consequences of the above behavior will have a bad impact on his life.

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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.

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March 23, 2024, 07:51:42 AM
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When a boy or a girl becomes completely addicted to gambling and when he gambles excessively he not only harms himself but also harms his family. If a teenager or teenager becomes addicted to gambling at this age, they will directly pressure the family for the money they need for gambling, and by pressuring the family, they will try to manage the money in different ways. When the family agrees to pay him at some point he will threaten to kill himself and put more pressure on his family which will put more pressure on the family and he will be under a lot of stress. 

If gambling can be done responsibly at a certain age then gambling is fine but excessive gambling will not bring any good to a gambler.
That's their own fault, no one ask young people to gamble, many casinos already state make sure you're 18+ years old upon creating account.

The family need to brought them to rehabilitation, perhaps they can recover from their addictions, if not the family need to take a step to kick them from family members otherwise they will keep bring new problem to the family.
There are many casino sites that state during account registration that if you are not 18 plus then you cannot account at this casino. Such a warning may be given by the casino before opening an account but it is entirely up to a user to accept this instruction or not. If a teenage boy or girl knows about gambling no matter how many instructions are given to him or how many warnings are given to him but he does not follow the instructions but he claims to be 18 plus then creates an account and continues to gamble.  Adolescent gamblers usually make this decision without informing the family but by the time the family finds out it is too late. When a boy or girl becomes addicted to gambling at a young age, the family knows and the family cannot easily bring the boy or girl out of that situation.

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March 23, 2024, 08:33:38 AM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

If the Kick platform allows such gambling streamers then nothing we can do about it. They deserve it or not is non of our business. Besides, even if we blame the streamer for attracting the user which eventually leads to gambling addiction, should we blame the streamer itself? We should be the ones to control ourselves and not be influenced too much by these streamers. Besides, these streamers, even though we hate them, didn't force anyone to gamble but rather just inviting.

But in the end, I also support eradicating all gambling streamers but only those who are just doing gambling-related that easily without looking at the site reputation of what they advertised. I mean those streamers who are just streaming a certain gambling site without doing a background check if these sites are legit and reputable. There are lots of local gambling streamers like that in our place just to gather more views.
Rightly said there is no point in blaming the gambling steamers. If we can control ourselves, these misinformation advertisements of the steamers will not harm us. Advertisements do this to boost their campaigns. Avoid mistakes and consider payment options and betting opportunities before betting In the end it's not just about the odds but the overall betting experience. Overall safety and reliability are essential ingredients for a safe betting journey.

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March 23, 2024, 09:07:40 AM
 #133

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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
It's nothing new if we see someone lacking empathy for other people, especially if they are the ones who caused it all. Especially if it has something to do with money, it could be said that for some people money is more important than anything, even more valuable than life. They will only think about themselves and will not care about what happens to other people, especially if that person is someone they don't know, they will pretend they don't know and cover their ears.
Yes, this happens a lot and this is part of life, there are people who care a lot, there are people who don't care about other people at all. In this case, we cannot blame anyone, and can only criticize people who we consider to be unempathetic.
This is one of the dangers of gambling if done wrong. Therefore, we always remind ourselves to always gamble with rules and limits so that we can avoid things like this that shouldn't happen. It's really sad if just because gambling ends in loss of life, this is something that really shouldn't happen.

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March 23, 2024, 09:36:32 AM
 #134

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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
It's nothing new if we see someone lacking empathy for other people, especially if they are the ones who caused it all. Especially if it has something to do with money, it could be said that for some people money is more important than anything, even more valuable than life. They will only think about themselves and will not care about what happens to other people, especially if that person is someone they don't know, they will pretend they don't know and cover their ears.
Yes, this happens a lot and this is part of life, there are people who care a lot, there are people who don't care about other people at all. In this case, we cannot blame anyone, and can only criticize people who we consider to be unempathetic.
This is one of the dangers of gambling if done wrong. Therefore, we always remind ourselves to always gamble with rules and limits so that we can avoid things like this that shouldn't happen. It's really sad if just because gambling ends in loss of life, this is something that really shouldn't happen.
Most important: money? Please. Losers have that philosophy. The actual giants, the real victors, know that money is a tool - the best tool, but nonetheless a tool. How you build with it matters. Long-term success depends on balance and well-being, therefore wise people know that.

Some individuals are wrong about gambling. They consider it feeble. Those people are weak. Gambling, like business, requires strategy, not luck. You win by calculating the odds and playing properly. You must set limitations and recognize your bounds.  People who are greedy and careless lose. Like any negotiation, you leave a terrible deal. The secret is discipline - knowing when to fold and when to go all in. That distinguishes winners from losers.

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March 23, 2024, 06:00:44 PM
 #135

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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
It's nothing new if we see someone lacking empathy for other people, especially if they are the ones who caused it all. Especially if it has something to do with money, it could be said that for some people money is more important than anything, even more valuable than life. They will only think about themselves and will not care about what happens to other people, especially if that person is someone they don't know, they will pretend they don't know and cover their ears.
Yes, this happens a lot and this is part of life, there are people who care a lot, there are people who don't care about other people at all. In this case, we cannot blame anyone, and can only criticize people who we consider to be unempathetic.
This is one of the dangers of gambling if done wrong. Therefore, we always remind ourselves to always gamble with rules and limits so that we can avoid things like this that shouldn't happen. It's really sad if just because gambling ends in loss of life, this is something that really shouldn't happen.
Most important: money? Please. Losers have that philosophy. The actual giants, the real victors, know that money is a tool - the best tool, but nonetheless a tool. How you build with it matters. Long-term success depends on balance and well-being, therefore wise people know that.

Some individuals are wrong about gambling. They consider it feeble. Those people are weak. Gambling, like business, requires strategy, not luck. You win by calculating the odds and playing properly. You must set limitations and recognize your bounds.  People who are greedy and careless lose. Like any negotiation, you leave a terrible deal. The secret is discipline - knowing when to fold and when to go all in. That distinguishes winners from losers.

When we are in a casino, in a sports bet or any activity that is for gambling there will always be many risks, now also, taking into consideration that if we are streamers, influencers or something similar where an audience and a community are managed, well It is very simple that things must be taken in a very professional way, that is, if we play and lose, we must set the example of assuming what happens, we cannot be showing desperation or anything like that, in any game of chance, casinos, sports betting, things can go wrong, because it is money that is being risked.

I defend that a person feels, sometimes gets carried away by emotions because it is something that happens a lot, but in this case what the effect streamer did was something very unfortunate and in reality he gave a very bad example, it is regrettable that he killed himself , but this is an example of things that should not be done.

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March 24, 2024, 06:36:30 AM
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if we can't consider the action we are going to take, it usually ends in disappointment and if that continues then what will happen is excessive pressure, so that it can affect our thinking and our mental state, which if the pressure is excessive, we cannot accept it properly. OK, it will damage our mental and thinking which can make us stressed, but it is caused by our own actions, so if we have done it then we have to be able to accept everything, including the bad impacts and risks.

Yes, it is true that anyone who will take action in their decision without careful consideration, the result will be nil and we will feel deep disappointment in what we have done and the relationship in gambling is when the gambler is a gambler who is careless in acting and does not think. With good common sense, it is possible that the gambler will experience many losses because he just thinks he can play and play and in pursuit of the uncertain winnings he gets.
Yes, agree with you because the consequences of the above behavior will have a bad impact on his life.

In my opinion, people who are influenced by streamers don't seem to be able to think straight, they think that what the streamers are doing is right with wins that are easy to get by just gambling and can make money, they don't think that it's just tricks and tricks so that they believe and believe they can make a win or money by gambling, and the streamer's goal is profit, where the more people who believe and gamble at the advertised casino, the greater the profit the streamer will get.

When they have been trusted by streamers to gamble, they will not think about the risks, especially when they have started to become addicted to gambling. They will continue to gamble without thinking about the risk of defeat and loss that will occur more often with the gambling they do, and it is true that if they are already addicted, they will likely take actions that are not considered first, so that these actions cause them to experience their own losses. In my opinion, to take action, you have to pay attention and consider it first, not just in gambling, other things are the same. Decision making or actions must be considered so that major losses do not occur.

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March 24, 2024, 10:47:06 AM
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Rightly said there is no point in blaming the gambling steamers. If we can control ourselves, these misinformation advertisements of the steamers will not harm us. Advertisements do this to boost their campaigns. Avoid mistakes and consider payment options and betting opportunities before betting In the end it's not just about the odds but the overall betting experience. Overall safety and reliability are essential ingredients for a safe betting journey.
Suicide is never what we should know about, there are other ways to resolved matters. There are essential sectors in the system, we just need to be to be extremely careful and not embedded in grant sections. Taking his own life due to addiction, for this awful incident to happen, he had taken think about the necessary actions and the repercussions. We avoid mistakes in the system and pass through the eligible process. The odds are important, but we should always levelled the system with necessary odds, it generates gigantic profits.



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March 24, 2024, 10:56:19 AM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
In our country, influencers who promote online gambling sites will be immediately detained by the police because there have been many cases like this that have happened and all the authorities are worried that this will become an epidemic.  In countries where gambling is legal, they should make strict rules about this, especially since streamers are often paid by gambling owners to promote their gambling sites.

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In my opinion, people who are influenced by streamers don't seem to be able to think straight, they think that what the streamers are doing is right with wins that are easy to get by just gambling and can make money, they don't think that it's just tricks and tricks so that they believe and believe they can make a win or money by gambling, and the streamer's goal is profit, where the more people who believe and gamble at the advertised casino, the greater the profit the streamer will get.

When they have been trusted by streamers to gamble, they will not think about the risks, especially when they have started to become addicted to gambling. They will continue to gamble without thinking about the risk of defeat and loss that will occur more often with the gambling they do, and it is true that if they are already addicted, they will likely take actions that are not considered first, so that these actions cause them to experience their own losses. In my opinion, to take action, you have to pay attention and consider it first, not just in gambling, other things are the same. Decision making or actions must be considered so that major losses do not occur.

It's true what you say chasing losses is basically useless, we won't get what we want, it will only complicate matters and there will be a lot of losses there and this factor is also influenced by big emotions about what happens because of expectations. not in accordance with reality and agree with you, if we have experienced defeat once or twice then take the positive side, namely from our experience that gambling results in more losses than wins, then we can use this as motivation and valuable experience so as not to lose. excessive gambling.

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March 24, 2024, 03:45:07 PM
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What do you think about this?
It is a sad thing and it paints more of a negative picture for gambling. Critics will be quick to fault gambling in general, where as the problem is not with gambling but irresponsible gambling that has led to addiction. We should try to be good examples of gamblers by gambling responsibly always.
I fully support your opinion and sometimes judge something concerned with gambling we must judge from 2 sides, namely from the positive and negative side.
IMO, when there was a fan of one of the famous streamers and committed suicide because of addiction, it was not a streamer fault and also not a gambling mistake.
logically, streamer or gambling is looking for money from work or business they do and as gamblers who have full responsibility for themselves should be able to control themselves not to take too seriously about gambling and think it is just a game that can be done when free time not a place to entertain yourself every day or to make a profit.



from this case I judge Adin Ross as if he did not want to be the center of suicide problems carried out by his fans and that was a self-defense that was worth doing because he only did the work he did to get income from his work.
Indeed there are many other jobs that do not give a big risk or damage the younger generation but everyone has expertise in their respective fields and for me this problem does not need to be raised but it is enough to be a lesson that whatever we see from the promotion of any gambling is only entertainment and responsibility yourself is more important.

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March 24, 2024, 04:28:25 PM
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The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
The streamer didn't have any solidarity for the fan who suicided because for him, it meant only one less view for his videos... This is how these influencers see their publics: as numbers, exclusively!

Numbers which raise them to the pantheon of most popular internet's celebrities, bringing fame, money and the false sense of being a demigod walking over the Earth. They do anything to maintain their status, never caring at all for the people who really maintain them on the throne of dust they don't want to be vanished, because on the influencers' subverted mind, they belong to a superior category of human beings.

And unfortunatelly they are where they are only because there is a massive number of people who follow these guys and treat them as their lords, including the man who suicided... After all, if the audience were doing something productive with their lives, streamers like Adin Ross would also have to do something productive in his own life for a living, instead of foolishing and deceiving people on the internet!

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March 24, 2024, 05:48:43 PM
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Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.
Mate, take a break and get yourself relaxed. Your life is much more important than this activity of yours, think about the people who love you, and never think of doing such a stupid thing because you will go but those who are here will stay in pain throughout their lives. Gambling is nothing, think of it this way and I'm sure you will be able to get away from it with time. You are stronger than what you think of yourself but you need to believe in yourself.

The reason why you are not being able to quit gambling is because you think about it too much, stop thinking about this, and try to focus on things that are more important in your life. You must have a family, think about them, spend more time with your family and friends, and I'm sure you will get out of this problem one day soon.

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March 24, 2024, 05:55:22 PM
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Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.
Mate, take a break and get yourself relaxed. Your life is much more important than this activity of yours, think about the people who love you, and never think of doing such a stupid thing because you will go but those who are here will stay in pain throughout their lives. Gambling is nothing, think of it this way and I'm sure you will be able to get away from it with time. You are stronger than what you think of yourself but you need to believe in yourself.

The reason why you are not being able to quit gambling is because you think about it too much, stop thinking about this, and try to focus on things that are more important in your life. You must have a family, think about them, spend more time with your family and friends, and I'm sure you will get out of this problem one day soon.
On the time that you are on the verge of addiction then it would really be that too damn hard for you to realize or think up those things on which you would really be that giving out that kind of
thinking that these things wont really be that important specially if you are on the condition on which problems are really that on extreme extent on which you would really be having those thoughts that this is something that cant really be resolved out but rather you would really be just that only trying out to kill yourself or having that suicide to be your most viable option left.
On this state then it would really be that impossible that you would really be thinking of people who are really that thinking or loving you on which it would be a common approach
those kind of emotions on which you would really be having those kind of thoughts and views that no one loves you specially on the time that you are on such state.

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March 24, 2024, 06:05:15 PM
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In my opinion, people who are influenced by streamers don't seem to be able to think straight, they think that what the streamers are doing is right with wins that are easy to get by just gambling and can make money, they don't think that it's just tricks and tricks so that they believe and believe they can make a win or money by gambling, and the streamer's goal is profit, where the more people who believe and gamble at the advertised casino, the greater the profit the streamer will get.

When they have been trusted by streamers to gamble, they will not think about the risks, especially when they have started to become addicted to gambling. They will continue to gamble without thinking about the risk of defeat and loss that will occur more often with the gambling they do, and it is true that if they are already addicted, they will likely take actions that are not considered first, so that these actions cause them to experience their own losses. In my opinion, to take action, you have to pay attention and consider it first, not just in gambling, other things are the same. Decision making or actions must be considered so that major losses do not occur.

It's true what you say chasing losses is basically useless, we won't get what we want, it will only complicate matters and there will be a lot of losses there and this factor is also influenced by big emotions about what happens because of expectations. not in accordance with reality and agree with you, if we have experienced defeat once or twice then take the positive side, namely from our experience that gambling results in more losses than wins, then we can use this as motivation and valuable experience so as not to lose. excessive gambling.

Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

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March 24, 2024, 06:07:51 PM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Streamer becomes a service job from there he earned income with a contract of agreement. I don't blame those who work as streamers when there are fans of a fan of killing themselves because of addiction.
Fans who like a streamer already know that the spectacle will not apply if the one watching does the same thing as they watch.

If we are addicted, that's where a disaster begins.
No wonder the effects of addiction can lose their lives because such events have crossed the limits of a human awareness.
The suicide incident due to addiction is not a rare thing, but as I recall, there have been many events exposed by the media about the effects of gambling addiction.

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People become suicidal for many reasons and the main one is that they don't want to solve problems, they choose to get rid of problems forever in the easiest way possible. What they don't realize is that they're pushing the problems onto their loved ones. Just imagine the grief that the mother of a person who takes her own life because of some problem. I have always believed that any problem can be solved, you just have to want it and make an effort. Suicide is not a solution, no matter how serious the problems are.

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March 24, 2024, 06:30:58 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Probably it all adds up to the point of taking his own life, I mean for sure addiction could actually be a huge problem in the long run but I dont think it is going to be that easy or just because of money someone is going to take his life. I'm sure other problems add up besides his frustration with gambling making him take this kind of action, as long as you get a lot of support probably from your family there is always a way to recover from losses.

There are lot of influencers and streamers that gamble online actually, I've seen a lot of facebook live and it seems like that gambling was getting really popular to a lot of streamers and as well as trading cryptocurrency, I remember last time most of the streamers are mostly playing NFT games but it seems like it wasn't profitable anymore so they migrated to online gambling already, that just means that there are a lot of gambling website that is offering a lot of influencers theses days which can be concerning considering there are possible children watching.

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Suicide is one of those stupid shortcuts, there is nothing justified for this ridiculous act.
Seeing the fact that many of them commit suicide due to gambling addiction,
this makes us as players or even gambling fans have to be careful and always do good management for funds and on our psychology.

Seeing how infatuated others are when gambling, it is an early indication of how they will become addicts.
The streamers seem to master the gambling game, look to have a lot of money but in reality they bear a lot of losses and in case of problems they do not find a solution to solve it.

Even gambling addiction will have more complex effects, having multiple loans for gambling and further compounding the problem.

It is quite sad when seeing many incidents of gambling addiction like that, as a person who is responsible for yourself,
you must be aware of what is being done, be aware that gambling is just entertainment and do not use money too much.

It's actually not the gambling that is wrong, but the individuals who can't control themselves.
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How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

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As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.

I see people putting blames on  the streamer for influencing the death of one of his fans. We cannot restrict everyone from doing what they deem best for them. There are several other contents on the Internet,  TV and other places that can actually influence lots of people to gamble even way beyond their limit. It is left for the the gambler to stay focused so as not to get motivated unnecessarily to gamble till they get addicted.

Every gambler is responsible to himself. When addiction sets in, he and those around him suffer the consequences and not the streamers, casinos or other mediums he gets his motivation from. The fan who took his life must have suffered depression to the point taking his own life seemed like the best option. Stories like this should serve as a deterrent for other gamblers who gamble like their lives depend on  it.

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March 25, 2024, 06:35:29 AM
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Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

Yes, because expectations that are too high make streamer fans forget about the bad things they will get in the future because they only see and imitate streamers who they are proud of or trust because of their ease in winning gambling and in fact the streamers will also definitely lose if they only upload it to social media only when they win and there is no way they show their loss.
I agree with you that it is best to gamble according to your financial capabilities because this is a safe step and is far from the impact of bad risks as you mentioned, namely getting into debt, committing suicide, etc. Such incidents result from uncontrolled gambling.

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March 25, 2024, 07:14:31 AM
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Excessive expectations also make them gamble excessively, which makes them trapped in losses that cannot be avoided. when they already have the wrong thoughts then losses will definitely occur and that is very bad. When they have problems with finances and see streamers who gamble easily win, it is very likely that they will be interested because even if they don't have problems, they will be attracted by that tempting win. It's just that this victory has deceived many people.

Gambling should be done in moderation because it is not right if gambling is done excessively. with many cases of the bad effects of gambling such as being in debt, committing suicide or others, it is caused by gambling that is done too excessively, the encouragement of wrong thinking becomes the disease. We also don't have to experience big losses to prevent excessive gambling. With the many cases that have happened, I think we can learn from them, as long as we can learn from what has happened to us or others.

Yes, because expectations that are too high make streamer fans forget about the bad things they will get in the future because they only see and imitate streamers who they are proud of or trust because of their ease in winning gambling and in fact the streamers will also definitely lose if they only upload it to social media only when they win and there is no way they show their loss.
I agree with you that it is best to gamble according to your financial capabilities because this is a safe step and is far from the impact of bad risks as you mentioned, namely getting into debt, committing suicide, etc. Such incidents result from uncontrolled gambling.
On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

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March 25, 2024, 07:27:31 AM
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On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

Yes, that's true and I will add a little fact that in my opinion streamer fans do not have a consistent sense of self-confidence because they can only imitate the behavior of other people, namely their favorite streamers, even though they are not. have it behind them. not necessarily according to what he sees on social media.
And we really have to pay close attention to this, we can imitate the streamer's steps with notes that make sense to imitate and we can also use as a reference or analysis in playing gambling with precise and correct rules.

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How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.
the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.


I agree with you. Most gambling streamers cheat their viewers with big wins and 50%+ winrate. I see many gambling streamers who keep winning and we know gambling is about winning and losing. You can't make money from gambling. It's just for fun and if you hit the jackpot it's your bonus. The streamers seem to have collaborated with gambling sites to provide big wins and always get jackpots with big bets when they are streaming. If you say gambling streamers are a plague, then the sites that collaborate with them are also a plague because they try to cheat their viewers.

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March 25, 2024, 09:32:59 AM
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On the time that you would really be setting those hopes too high or something unrealistic or trying out to copy those streamers on how much they do bet and how fast pace they are really that making.
If you are really just that an average gambler and would really be tending to copy then you would really be messing up your life for sure because you would really be trying out to reach on how
they do bet without even realizing that it is really that absurd for you to do so. This is why it would really be always wise that you should really be thinking up well because if you are
rushing up yourself on betting without having those moderation then dont be shocked that you would be having that financial problems.

You would really be committing out suicide if you do find out yourself having no solution with your problems specially if its connected to financial then it would really be that so damn
hard to resolve it out and this is why it is important that you do know on how to set limits and realistic approach.

Yes, that's true and I will add a little fact that in my opinion streamer fans do not have a consistent sense of self-confidence because they can only imitate the behavior of other people, namely their favorite streamers, even though they are not. have it behind them. not necessarily according to what he sees on social media.
And we really have to pay close attention to this, we can imitate the streamer's steps with notes that make sense to imitate and we can also use as a reference or analysis in playing gambling with precise and correct rules.

The possibility is like that, when they see a streamer and like it then it could be that they will do the same thing, to get the same results. But of course, in gambling, the name cannot be ascertained, even though the streamer mentions that it is certain, can, guaranteed to get an easy win, it is just a tactic. Don't get an easy win, just getting a win once is difficult if we don't have luck in gambling. It is also not recommended to imitate the gambling that streamers do, including the tricks or patterns they share. That's just fraud.

But even so, don't be completely motivated by the streamer, because I think gambling is done by ourselves, the fear is that when we fully follow the streamer but the results are opposite, we blame others or the streamer, even though gambling is done by ourselves, actually it is the right of each individual, it's just that we have to know the limits, not because the streamer easily wins while we who imitate all the directions or steps from the streamer get defeated, sometimes it's annoying why we have to follow the streamer.

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How big is the negative impact of irresponsible gambling and streaming events? to the point that there are people who are determined to end their lives by committing suicide. A very, very stupid and careless action, because I think that committing suicide will not solve any problems, it will only cause new problems and leave sorrow for the families left behind.

As a gambler, and as a fan of live streaming gambling shows, we cannot limit other people from continuing to live stream and create content about gambling, where shows and content like this can actually influence and lead us to gambling activities that irresponsible, which can only cause losses and other negative things. we cannot limit them, because it is beyond our capabilities. So what we can do is limit ourselves from the gambling activities that we often do, and be able to think rationally about gambling and broadcasts that have a gambling smell. We must be able to process every piece of information we receive as rationally and wisely as possible.
the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.
Man, our thoughts are warzones. Every action, every phrase, can stir deeper emotions. Streamers are on the frontlines, with insane influence. You're right regarding audience understanding. However, it's not ideal protection. Older people recognize life is a hard war you must win alone. Suicide? It's a method to hurt everyone else and leave them floundering without you

Streamers' fandoms mirror them. Negativity spreads like a disease. A terrible loop. Our situation isn't hopeless. Choose. Choose who and what we consume and absorb. Becoming an army of independent thinkers rather than followers is everything

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Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Some streamers are deceptive and manipulative and they don't care about their followers all they care about is the number of people that will sign up using their code.

This is why I don't watch these streamers, they make it appear it's ok to lose huge money because there's always a chance that you can recover it.

But we must admit they are a big help to casinos to get more leads, they offer streamers money and bonuses to stream their platform, but with the way they sometimes do extreme streaming these controversial streamers will eventually lose the platforms they stream.

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March 25, 2024, 02:52:09 PM
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Some streamers are deceptive and manipulative and they don't care about their followers all they care about is the number of people that will sign up using their code.

This is why I don't watch these streamers, they make it appear it's ok to lose huge money because there's always a chance that you can recover it.

But we must admit they are a big help to casinos to get more leads, they offer streamers money and bonuses to stream their platform, but with the way they sometimes do extreme streaming these controversial streamers will eventually lose the platforms they stream.


Because encouraging and entertaining their viewers is their job to let them stay and at the same time get an additional profit with referrals in exchange for their time and effort for streaming. They are not charity but rather just working in this kind of industry. They are like the new era of artist that provides entertainment with their content.

Winning big or losing big is what the most typical highlights that viewers usually wants to watch on stream that’s why they always focusing on it. The most important thing for the, is they are using disclosure about gambling responsibly on their stream since it’s already known that the money they are using are fake.

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Every gambler is responsible to himself. When addiction sets in, he and those around him suffer the consequences and not the streamers, casinos or other mediums he gets his motivation from. The fan who took his life must have suffered depression to the point taking his own life seemed like the best option. Stories like this should serve as a deterrent for other gamblers who gamble like their lives depend on  it.

Of course, every individual is responsible for all actions and decisions they take. and it is true that the media has a strong influence on a person's behavior, especially if that person is very vulnerable and easily influenced. And with all the limitations that each individual has, we all need to know that not all individuals have the same ability to overcome external influences, including the influence of spammers and gambling-related content.

and you are right that we must be able to learn from experience, which is not only personal experience, but also the experience of other people. We need to learn this, none other than to prevent ourselves from irresponsible behavior and other things that we do not expect.

the point here, we can't control people's mind sometime people's mind are so chaotic that every smallest gesture can affect their condition and therefore it could cause problems, as a streamer to be honest, they should know well what kind of age demographic their audience are, usually the older people knows well that there's no problem worth suicide except that it gonna add the burden, suicide is no way escaping problem its just gonna add more and more salt into the wound of the family being left behind and its a serious thing needs to be resolved.
not that I've seen so many streamer fans actually having inconsistent idea of themself that they always follow the idea that their favourite streamer are having, if their favourite streamer is kinda toxic the whole fanbase gonna be toxic thats just how it works.

Because they were born before us, with the various experiences they have, perhaps they can better understand how to solve a problem and find the best solution, rather than having to end their lives in vain. and therefore it is quite important, when we have a problem that we are not ready to handle, it would be good if we explain the problem to the people closest to us who are considered more mature than us. because by telling stories, even though we don't get the best solution, at least this can make us a little relieved.

And regarding attacks on gambling streamers, they should be able to take responsibility for every content they create. But rather than arguing with gambling actors, it would be better if we were able to process all the information we get as well as possible, so that we would not be easily influenced by negative things that could harm us.

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But even so, don't be completely motivated by the streamer, because I think gambling is done by ourselves, the fear is that when we fully follow the streamer but the results are opposite, we blame others or the streamer, even though gambling is done by ourselves, actually it is the right of each individual, it's just that we have to know the limits, not because the streamer easily wins while we who imitate all the directions or steps from the streamer get defeated, sometimes it's annoying why we have to follow the streamer.

Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.

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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.


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How I love that Gambling streamers should take responsibilities in those sadness that comes from their works in gambling industry because indeed that they are the reason why these happens.
sadly  this is still happening in my country up to now and I hate seeing addicted growing in my locations and even youngsters are being victim of their streams luring people to gamble.

That's sad; another gambler lost his life due to gambling addiction. The image of gambling is getting worse because of this news. As for other people, gambling actually helps because, for others, it not only gives stress relief but also gives fun.
there is no issue when people enjoy and having fun in gambling but the problem is when you invest so much into this that you can ruin your own life just because of gambling and that is what we must not have in life.

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Just don't let us overdo it with gambling, because when it's not controlled, we develop an addiction that other gamblers don't realize. But I hope other streamers will also be responsible because they are also the reason why other viewers can gamble because of their promotion, which is also mixed with creativity.
wish this is easy said than done mate.

but we cannot act that easy when we are the one that involves in gambling so much , i have tasted this in the past mate and trust me it is so hard to achieve .

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People become suicidal for many reasons and the main one is that they don't want to solve problems, they choose to get rid of problems forever in the easiest way possible. What they don't realize is that they're pushing the problems onto their loved ones. Just imagine the grief that the mother of a person who takes her own life because of some problem. I have always believed that any problem can be solved, you just have to want it and make an effort. Suicide is not a solution, no matter how serious the problems are.

You've said it right. Indeed, people who take their own lives commit one of the gravest crimes possible. The extent of the grief they inflict upon their relatives and loved ones is unfathomable.

Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

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Each one of us makes the final decisions on a subject based on our own motivations. Streamer can open gambling for a person, but before gambling each of us should study this topic on our own. Only then can we make decisions about what money we are willing to risk. Apparently, this young man did not want to study this topic on his own and therefore simply did not calculate his risks. I also believe that streamers advertising gambling should not be held responsible for the actions of others.

For example, I can watch some videos on Youtube now about margin trading. Open a position with 100 leverage on one of the crypto exchanges and get liquidated in a few hours. I don't think the author of one of the videos I watched will be guilty of anything. 

The situation is exactly the same there.

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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.

I would feel okey enough with those streamers if they actually showed some proof of them using their own money to gamble and bet instead some fake money or bonification a given by the casino. It would be also refreshing if there was some way for the streamer to show to his fans that his game/software is not set up for him to have better results than I would get if I decided to sign up to the same casino he is advertising.
There is nothing wrong with doing some advertisement for a service like a casino, the problems start when those streamers and shady small casinos cross the line of deceiving their viewers and make them believe their can change their lives by gambling and earn much money. That is when these things turn unacceptable.

I wonder if someday, the government of the United States and the European Union will dare to place some basic rules for streamers of gambling content, on those points. So it would be harder for viewers to create false expectations for themselves and gambling.  Sad

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Good advice, friend, we shouldn't easily believe and be motivated by what the streamer is directing, even though he dares to say that this step is the right step and he has proven it, it could be just empty talk so that the streamer will have lots of followers and lots of fans. . .
It's better to just follow the direction of our hearts and minds because that's what's best. If we lose or win, we will feel very valuable pleasure.

In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.
True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

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Rightly said there is no point in blaming the gambling steamers. If we can control ourselves, these misinformation advertisements of the steamers will not harm us. Advertisements do this to boost their campaigns. Avoid mistakes and consider payment options and betting opportunities before betting In the end it's not just about the odds but the overall betting experience. Overall safety and reliability are essential ingredients for a safe betting journey.
Suicide is never what we should know about, there are other ways to resolved matters. There are essential sectors in the system, we just need to be to be extremely careful and not embedded in grant sections. Taking his own life due to addiction, for this awful incident to happen, he had taken think about the necessary actions and the repercussions. We avoid mistakes in the system and pass through the eligible process. The odds are important, but we should always levelled the system with necessary odds, it generates gigantic profits.
When all kinds of pressures come together, it becomes very difficult for us to make the right decision. As you said suicide is never a solution but a person under such pressure finds it easier to commit suicide. A person who commits suicide is a person who has made the decision to commit suicide after multiple attempts have failed. Up until the moment before committing suicide, the victim thought that death would be easier for him because of his depression. When a man's back is against the wall, his wisdom does not work very well and when he cannot find the right path, he decides to commit suicide. It is true that a person who commits suicide does not care about the world but his dependent family members are going through a lot of problems.

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March 27, 2024, 02:38:32 AM
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In my opinion, another goal of streamers is to seek popularity. With so many people watching, maybe they will be able to get more new followers, and with that they can become famous in their field. and what you say makes sense, maybe they are just saying nonsense, including when they tell us to register to win easily, which in my opinion is mostly just nonsense. Even though what the streamer gets is tempting, we have to be able to think about whether it is purely due to luck or whether it has been arranged to attract the interest of many people. but I myself think that everything has been arranged by the two parties.

It's true what you say, it's better to just follow directions and your heart, because gambling itself is done based on our own actions, if we are motivated by other people with results that are not according to our hearts' desires then there is a possibility that conflict will occur, and that must be avoided. It is not mandatory that we have to completely trust streamers who are everywhere, I myself think they are just looking for money but in a different way.

It's true that I also agree with you. These streamers only want to seek popularity and if their wishes are achieved then the streamer will make a profit here. And what you say is true, we should not believe what they show on social media with the bravado they get because that is also part of their trick so that we can follow them.
Because the real thing is to follow it in our hearts and minds so that later we can also learn how to gamble properly and correctly.

It's a shame that many people easily believe what streamers do, but it's definitely an interesting thing when you see people getting big wins at gambling and giving the steps, but they believe too much so they can't differentiate between what's real and what's just just manipulate. when they believe in streamers they don't think about the downside, their brain nerves are filled with fantasies of winning only. with thoughts that only think about winning, they actually set themselves up for addiction and other problems.

Too much trust is also not a good thing, when we believe we can win with the steps given by the streamer it can make us put aside our awareness, we will only think about winning, even when the gambling ends in defeat we still think about winning. so it continues like that until all the money is gone, and because the brain's impulses are filled with gambling wins, any action will occur that encourages us to make money, even if it is a big risk. Indeed, there are many gamblers who are in debt because they want to complete the thought of winning at their gambling. If they never get a win, it makes them stressed, so when that happens, there is a possibility that they could end their life because of excessive pressure, but this happens because of their actions. I was also wrong from the start.

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March 27, 2024, 03:18:57 PM
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True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

Because it is part of the streamer's job to create or create illusions or content whose aim is to attract the attention of people who see it so that he makes money here. Yes, basically it won't be easy for a gambler to win, they will only be cheated or lied to by the streamer because the person who wins or loses has the right to issue it is the host himself even though the gambler takes over. If the streamer has taken the correct and appropriate steps, the results are still very doubtful. I agree with you that the best decision is from within yourself, not from other people's experiences whose truth is uncertain.

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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.

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March 27, 2024, 03:26:53 PM
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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.
The answer the that question is not far fetched since we already know that most of the streamers doesn't gamble on real games, at least according to speculations because we have seen how the experience of the streamers on the live video shows are always different from what the real gamblers experience at some point of time.


The ability to just doctor the show is what is their aim and once they got that audience and attention they will always control the mindsets of they followers just like in this case, streamers have alot to hide from the public and only display the positive display making their activities to feel as if it real and end good results meanwhile, some of those scammers never bet in real life, it all for the content.

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March 27, 2024, 03:44:21 PM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This case means that live streaming is not a basic reference for gamblers. It can be used as a guide to encourage users to win in the gambling arena, This proves that the fan who committed suicide certainly had a reason, maybe he was frustrated or something else due to the effects of watching him stream online on social media.

I often see my friends, after they watch streams on TikTok or Instagram, without thinking twice they immediately start gambling and I see they never get good results, In fact, we get losses, so gamble as much as we can and gamble according to the knowledge we have. Don't put your hopes and heavy addiction to streaming. We might lose control and end up ending our lives if it doesn't live up to our hopes.

Gamble what we have, remember streaming is not the main capital for you to win, let us control ourselves when gambling, that might be better.

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March 27, 2024, 04:43:24 PM
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I have one question, just one question.

Why do all streamers have good results when they are gambling on live video? If the way that streamers are gambling is the same way that everyone is gambling then it will be too easy to make money in gambling.

Its why I will never trust any gambling result from a streamer, they have their ways of  faking the gambling and also the money.

Only very few streamers do live video using real money from their fans, many lives have been lost through gambling and streamers are part of the biggest reason why many people turn into addicts faster.
You could really be able to make out such assumption that this might really be that somehow been fixed or somewhat rigged and this is why some people or some gamblers would really be having that
kind of urge when it comes on playing gambling because they've seen that those streamers are really that winning and this is something which is really that make that kind of boost up into someones emotion.
This is why it would really be making out those kind of assumptions that its been fixed up or simply those people are really having that huge account balance and thats why they do really play like
on having those huge bets and thats why when they do win then it would really be something significant and that would be giving that kind of boost up.

This is why it would not be shocking that these streamers doesnt really that minding much about others condition about into its viewers whether they do have ended up on having a gambling problem or not.
We do know that its their job and its normal that they would really be that focusing into something that they would really be needing to do.

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March 28, 2024, 12:00:12 PM
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True, some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.

Because it is part of the streamer's job to create or create illusions or content whose aim is to attract the attention of people who see it so that he makes money here. Yes, basically it won't be easy for a gambler to win, they will only be cheated or lied to by the streamer because the person who wins or loses has the right to issue it is the host himself even though the gambler takes over. If the streamer has taken the correct and appropriate steps, the results are still very doubtful. I agree with you that the best decision is from within yourself, not from other people's experiences whose truth is uncertain.
Every gambler must know that when they are gambling it will not be so easy for them to win because they think it is simple but in reality the result will not be as simple or in their favor. If a gambler gambles without thinking that they can lose by gambling then my comment is that they don't understand anything about gambling, they are only motivated by others and they are taking big risks like gambling. Gambling is not as easy as gamblers think gambling is. A person does not commit suicide immediately, he thinks that suicide is not the right decision for him till the moment before he commits suicide, but he is under pressure from which he cannot come out and he takes such a decision. If we have gamblers around us who risk their lives on gambling then we should bring them back to normal life.

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March 28, 2024, 12:37:07 PM
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Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

I agree. People should realize that it’s mainly our choices that lead us to where we are presently. We could be influenced and motivated to take some actions you ordinarily wouldn’t,, but in the end, no one actually forced the individual to take those actions that led to suicidal thoughts and behavior. We should consider being more responsible for our actions and not try to run away from the outcome.

It may become a big problem for the influencer and perhaps the platform itself being used when 50% and upwards of his fans and followers become suicidal after having listened and encouraged by the streamer to do whatever.
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March 28, 2024, 12:45:57 PM
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All streamers who promote while they are live are not good influencers, to be honest. It's just that most of them are lies. Of course, the usual thing that happens is that they encourage their viewers to play gambling, deposit, and grow their money because they are always sure to win as long as they use the link in the description that they put. But the truth is not really.

And others have had their lives ruined because they believed what the streamers who promote gambling online said, and others even had their savings run out because they were told that they would always win gambling and never lose. So those streamers don't really do anything good; they are just paid by advertisements. It's ok to gamble as long as we keep it to ourselves.
That is a common trick by these influencers and they show to their viewers of how easily they won the bets but in reality, that is impossible for casual players.
I ain't falling into this trick as we have been gambling for many years and the chances never change. As a gambler, we should know when to stop and limit our time in gambling because the more we are doing this, the bigger the chances of getting into addiction. Following these so-called gambling experts makes no sense because they are the reason why many gamblers get in trouble for believing that they are true to what they have spoken.



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March 28, 2024, 01:14:55 PM
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Every gambler must know that when they are gambling it will not be so easy for them to win because they think it is simple but in reality the result will not be as simple or in their favor. If a gambler gambles without thinking that they can lose by gambling then my comment is that they don't understand anything about gambling, they are only motivated by others and they are taking big risks like gambling. Gambling is not as easy as gamblers think gambling is. A person does not commit suicide immediately, he thinks that suicide is not the right decision for him till the moment before he commits suicide, but he is under pressure from which he cannot come out and he takes such a decision. If we have gamblers around us who risk their lives on gambling then we should bring them back to normal life.
Yes, that's right, luck to win at gambling is actually very difficult to come by, but for gamblers who don't have good knowledge and understanding of gambling, it will make it easier for them to take wrong actions in every gambling session.
It could be that gamblers who commit suicide because they lose too much and have too many problems in their lives will take shortcuts such as committing suicide, but this is very unfortunate because it does not use common sense but is a very stupid thing. scary.

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March 29, 2024, 11:35:05 AM
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It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
Some streamers do care about their audience and they don't endorse things that they know can be bad for those who follow them. However, that is not the case with all of them and most of them would do anything for money, and they have to do that because they earn a living by doing that, but they should at least try and bring content to people that wouldn't be harmful for them in any way.

Streaming platforms need to make sure that streamers on the platform don't go beyond a certain limit promoting things that might not be beneficial for the viewers or on a contrary, they can become harmful for them if they follow those streamers and try to do the same things as they do on stream.

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April 02, 2024, 03:03:28 PM
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~ I don't think the author of one of the videos I watched will be guilty of anything. 

The situation is exactly the same there.

Absolutely. That's what I'm talking about. Don't blame advertisers. They are just doing their job.


Casino promoters like streamers or others shouldn't be blamed in such cases, in my opinion. Only if more than 50% of their followers were committing suicides they should be blamed.

I agree. People should realize that it’s mainly our choices that lead us to where we are presently. We could be influenced and motivated to take some actions you ordinarily wouldn’t,, but in the end, no one actually forced the individual to take those actions that led to suicidal thoughts and behavior. We should consider being more responsible for our actions and not try to run away from the outcome.

It may become a big problem for the influencer and perhaps the platform itself being used when 50% and upwards of his fans and followers become suicidal after having listened and encouraged by the streamer to do whatever.

Right, if more than 50% of the viewers commit suicide, that might constitute a big problem, not only for the influencer but for the platform owners too. But at the moment we are very far from there. Only few people who watch streams of casino games become problem gamblers, let alone commit suicide.

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What a shame, as much as there's a small part of the blame involved in the person that just died because of addiction, I think that it's important that we also address this issue with irresponsible influencers, I don't think that people that don't have the mental faculty and capability to be a role model to their audiences should be allowed to stream because let's face it, kids and people that have no self-control and susceptible to idolatry are going to tune in to your stream and you may not see it as a streamer but you've got to understand that there's a lot of people out there with different behaviors and you might be the reason why they're into something, you won't be called an influencer for nothing, even if that word's associated with retarded clout chasers, you still have to remember that people idolize you so if they've done something heinous and they call you out as an idol or inspiration to that thing that they've done, you're partially responsible.

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some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.
They are directed to do that by the casinos that they promote on their streams, they do it so that people sign up on the platform because a casino wouldn't pay a streamer or an influencer for nothing, they want results for what they are paying and streamers do their best to provide them what they are looking for, so they don't really have a choice.

However, as you said, people who watch those streamers should know that whatever they show isn't always true and just because they keep winning most of the time it doesn't mean we as normal gamblers should have the same experience because gambling in general cannot let anyone win constantly, but streamers and their partners are given special privileges.

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April 08, 2024, 07:03:00 AM
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It's not that they don't know about this, but they just don't want to know or care about it. All they think about is content, money and popularity, they don't care whether their audience is addicted or not, the most important thing is how they can get money from the KICK platform, casino and donations. There are a lot of streamers like this on KICK and it's disgusting to see them keep laughing and not caring about this issue. And unfortunately, they hide behind the words "freedom". That's really disgusting.
Some streamers do care about their audience and they don't endorse things that they know can be bad for those who follow them. However, that is not the case with all of them and most of them would do anything for money, and they have to do that because they earn a living by doing that, but they should at least try and bring content to people that wouldn't be harmful for them in any way.

Streaming platforms need to make sure that streamers on the platform don't go beyond a certain limit promoting things that might not be beneficial for the viewers or on a contrary, they can become harmful for them if they follow those streamers and try to do the same things as they do on stream.
99% of them dont care and would really be having that concern into their followers or audience, as long they could really be able to make or earn money then this what matter the most. They dont care about those
effects on what those viewers would really be able to hit up or something that would happen into them. They do their job and as a viewer it is really that on your own discretion if we do speak about
trying to do something which you have seen in the net. It would be just that depending on you on how you would really be making yourself that making good decisions because everything
wouldnt really be messy if you are really just that sensible on the things that you are dealing with. You cant really make your life to mess with if you are really just that mindful on the actions you are making.
They are really just that doing their job but doesnt mean that you would really be needing to follow on what they are doing.

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April 08, 2024, 11:09:53 AM
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some streamers create the illusion of being invincible or "on a hot streak" in order to attract viewers and make revenue. But the truth is that no one can win forever, and gambling is always risky no matter how easy they may make winning to look. They may have good intentions, but it's important to take their words with a grain of salt and avoid getting caught up in the idea of always winning. The greatest strategy is to make your own decisions rather than relying on someone else's.
They are directed to do that by the casinos that they promote on their streams, they do it so that people sign up on the platform because a casino wouldn't pay a streamer or an influencer for nothing, they want results for what they are paying and streamers do their best to provide them what they are looking for, so they don't really have a choice.

However, as you said, people who watch those streamers should know that whatever they show isn't always true and just because they keep winning most of the time it doesn't mean we as normal gamblers should have the same experience because gambling in general cannot let anyone win constantly, but streamers and their partners are given special privileges.
You know the worst part of this whole streamer and influencer shit  is that, people nowadays so much depend on the predictions of the so called online experts/streamers rather than working on their own predictions, they are more moved by the so called wins these influencers flaunt on their pages every single day, and they make gambling appear so simple and easy, making people to develop a very wrong perspective about gambling, which isn't supposed to be so because so many gamblers have been misled and compelled into making wrong gambling choices and taking miscalculated risks which has landed them into a very bad state.

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April 08, 2024, 11:59:00 AM
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What a shame, as much as there's a small part of the blame involved in the person that just died because of addiction, I think that it's important that we also address this issue with irresponsible influencers, I don't think that people that don't have the mental faculty and capability to be a role model to their audiences should be allowed to stream because let's face it, kids and people that have no self-control and susceptible to idolatry are going to tune in to your stream and you may not see it as a streamer but you've got to understand that there's a lot of people out there with different behaviors and you might be the reason why they're into something, you won't be called an influencer for nothing, even if that word's associated with retarded clout chasers, you still have to remember that people idolize you so if they've done something heinous and they call you out as an idol or inspiration to that thing that they've done, you're partially responsible.

I have never been into streamers as a from of entertainment, personally. They used to be more likeable and relatable in the 2010, now everything related to than has become about the same games and attitudes with can be very disgusting at times. In the case of gambling streamers it can be even worse. It is bad when someone have so much on an influence over teens and children which religiously watch when on the internet, playing games like Leage of legends or Dota for hours, but watching someone to gamble for literal hours and see their reaction can easily incite to engage in gambling for the first time.

In this situation where a person fell desperate enough to end their existence, I would say both the stream and the viewer/fan share responsibility. The streamer because of the things he does and says, disregarding the loss of life and the potential damage being done to teen and the fan for choosing to allow himself to fall into such a bottomless pit as addition is.

I can only hope he is resting in peace and this won't ever repeat anytime soon ...  Sad

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