Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction

[zuzie]

This was a stupid act and it would be a shame if he did something like this. He should have imitated what he saw on the streamer instead of ending his life because he could no longer control himself in relation to gambling.
It is indeed very worrying that when someone is addicted to gambling, he will experience severe depression when he stops or reduces this behavior and that is truly terrible, not because of the impact of excessive risk in gambling. However, this is real evidence and we can use it as a guide or motivation so that we don't get addicted to gambling like what streamer fans have experienced.

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[angrybirdy]

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

This is one of the reasons here in our country why anyone found promoting gambling will have a competent case because usually these endorsers are not users in real life, they are just encouraging people to play because that is their job, to spread the word. about gambling and how to do it without any disclaimers to the viewers. I believe that the winnings they show in their livestream are not true and you can't change what is imprinted in my mind that they only use a set up account where they can only show winnings which is really able to entice the viewers.

[Strongkored]

Everyone is responsible for all their actions, including when they really enjoy streaming gambling, they will be very tempted to try it too, but unfortunately many people don't realize that what the streamer gets from his broadcast doesn't reflect what his viewers will also get because streamers often only play with money from the casinos that sponsor them. so that when streamers lose it won't hurt them, unlike the audience whose emotions and finances will be affected if they lose, so the streamer should also tell the audience that what they get will be different for each individual so that when the audience gambles they already understand the risk of not getting anything because they don't get according to what was expected, or not the same as what streamers get.

[Porfirii]

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The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

This is the first news I hear about this case and, according to what you say, chances are that this streamer has some psychopathic traits (no regret, lack of empathy...). I don't think this is a performance.

To me, the main problem is not that people like that have access to these platforms, but that followers have not developed a healthy degree of critical thinking.

[Kakmakr]

The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 

[target]

It's the advertising that is the problem. The platform can't just screen whoever can watch the gambling content whether kids of 20 years old or up, they all can watch these streamers. These should have been controlled and I guess parents have the same problem.

These kids also are vulnerable. When kids are not exposed to bigger problems in life, a little problem of just losing money, they already want to kill themselves.

[Assface16678]

It's the advertising that is the problem. The platform can't just screen whoever can watch the gambling content whether kids of 20 years old or up, they all can watch these streamers. These should have been controlled and I guess parents have the same problem.

These kids also are vulnerable. When kids are not exposed to bigger problems in life, a little problem of just losing money, they already want to kill themselves.

Exactly. I don't side with the streamer; it's just the fact that why would the streamer be accountable or look like he is being blamed? Yeah, he might have a fault, but not entirely. He has a fault in the sense that he is promoting gambling, but he is just doing that for him to make a living. He doesn't have control over who will be watching or what the state of those watching is in terms of their gambling activity. 

Condolences to the person who died, but fact is fact, he is the one who made his life worse, and he is also the one who is in control of himself, so I don't think there should be someone to blame. This will be a regret for the family or friends of the deceased because they didn't try to help with the gambler's condition, but as I said, no one's entirely to blame.

[OceanBit]

It's sad to hear what an individual can do because of gambling addiction. Influencers should be mindful of the audiences and contents they are sharing when promoting online gambling. Platforms like kick should implement a much stricter guidelines on which content or how their influencers should promote online gambling. it's important to prioritize audiences well-being over profit and view numbers.

[teamsherry]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

Your funny bro, to me your the one who doesn't want to quite gambling, its not as tho they have a grip on you or your forced to the issue here is you need to renew your mind about this cause addiction is a tign of the mind. I have a friend who has been into smoking addiction before for two years but when
he  had a reason to stop he did which was his health, maybe you need to end up in a catastrophic even like losing all your life savings or weaking yourself for good then no one would need to advice you that you must leave gambling yourself.

[pinggoki]

With how popular the streaming market is and how easy it is to create a cult of personality in your platform, I think that it's probably the time that you should do your responsibility as a streamer to take care of the people that's on your platform watching you do the things that you need. I think that the ban is a deserved one because that kind of things aren't supposed to happen anyway and that we all should take care of people, the world is slowly deteriorating with flexible morals, it's probably in our best interest that we should do something about this, people being able to influence a horde of yes men and child, it's a scary prospect that this has become the norm for this world.

[Jating]

It's a moral compass of the streamers themselves, and I think majority thinks that they are not responsible for any actions of their followers. And for me, we shouldn't influence by this streamers as they could be just living a fake life for all we know. It could be all make believed when they are in front of the camera. And hopefully for those who are following them, just used our logical mind and not be swayed by anything they do or say.

So another horrible stories again. Hopefully, for those whoever you are, contemplating about during this kind of things. It will just give more problems though to the ones that you are going to left so it's not worth to even think about it.

[joniboini]

Exactly. I don't side with the streamer; it's just the fact that why would the streamer be accountable or look like he is being blamed? Yeah, he might have a fault, but not entirely. He has a fault in the sense that he is promoting gambling, but he is just doing that for him to make a living. He doesn't have control over who will be watching or what the state of those watching is in terms of their gambling activity.

I don't exactly watch him, but how does he conduct himself when streaming? How did the advertising happen? I believe we can hold streamers accountable to some extent if they have some influence on how their viewers should or should not do something. I'm not talking about giving monetary donations whenever a terrible case happens to their viewers, but they should conduct themselves better in the future. Sadly I don't think that's going to happen with narcissistic/psychopathic streamers.

I think improving viewer's critical thinking is probably the best way to prevent something like this. The platform probably can do more than just a warning that the user can close easily if they are serious about preventing suicide etc. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen unless there's a strict law related to that. They will likely follow the money and do the bare minimum as usual.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Yes, I totally agree to what you just said above, because if there is anybody to be blame for this young man's death, "Adin Ross" is the rightful person to be blame for haven indirectly made his followers addicted to gambling while trying to experiment most of the tips and strategies they may have watched him doing in his videos. And secondly, the person who committed suicide is also partly to be blamed, because nobody forced him to gamble and lost, which I'm sure must have been the main reason which prompted him to committing suicide, as he ought to gave gambled only with an amount he could always afford to lose, but yet due to greed, he went extra miles, and now the only option he thinks was suicide. However, May his gentle soul Rest In Peace, and this should be a lesson to everyone not to practice everything you watch online.

[Oshosondy]

In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Streamers should not be seen as real gamblers. It is true that they are endorsed by the gambling site and they pay them huge amount of money. It is not something that is hidden. People should not be gambling with huge amount of money, they should know that gambling is very risky. People only think of the good side of gambling and not thinking of the negative consequences. I do not have the streamers to blame if I can not blame the reason that gambling sites are existing but the gamblers themselves are to be blamed of greedy nature. When I was addicted, not steamers that got me addicted but I was just addicted myself. Sorry to the boy's family, they will be in pain by now.

[Mahanton]

This further worsens the image of the gambling industry because things related to gambling such as murder, violence or domestic violence, harassment and so on, ordinary people will blame gambling.
In fact, it's because of their own stupid carelessness, and I don't really care about negative gambling-related news even if it's just manipulation or whatever. However, ordinary people will assume or judge that the gambling industry is the problem.

And thats why gambling does really have that kind of negative image in most community or having that common bad impressions towards it because it would really be usually be that always be attached when it comes to
addiction,crime, suicide and other negative things on which we know that once the community sees up these things then they would really be focusing into those negatives and wouldnt be caring about its true reason of its existence.  As for these streamers then we do really know about their job and on how they do make money and doesnt matter if they do make use of fake money but still it is one of the most common method for
companies on making use of it to have that kind of effective marketing.

In regarding about problems then we do know that once you cant really be able to control it anymore then this is where you would really be thinking about having suicide
as for some people do really sees this as the easiest way on resolving those problems on which this is something that you would really considering but this is
really just that a foolish move.

[bitbollo]

really sad news to read.
Unfortunately in these cases it would be better to seek help because it is always possible to find a solution.
the streaming of "controversial" content such as these linked to gambling/casino will certainly be modified in the future with more rules and restrictions.
I agree that some should be removed since they are showing only a fiction and not really events.

[Su-asa]

A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

Thanks to God you realized that it was a very bad day for you, all days can never be good because that's life for everyone, many times you have to make some decisions that is hard and that's what makes you who you are.
If you can make good decisions and stay by it, it makes you who you are, like the streamer gambler that committed suicide because of his bad days, his decision shows that he's isn't a person that can make good decisions. It's not a bad idea to loses your money in bets but it's very terrible when you commit suicide because you have lost your money in games. There's nothing on earth that can make be compared to ones life.

[Hirose UK]

Everyone is responsible for all their actions, including when they really enjoy streaming gambling, they will be very tempted to try it too, but unfortunately many people don't realize that what the streamer gets from his broadcast doesn't reflect what his viewers will also get because streamers often only play with money from the casinos that sponsor them. so that when streamers lose it won't hurt them, unlike the audience whose emotions and finances will be affected if they lose, so the streamer should also tell the audience that what they get will be different for each individual so that when the audience gambles they already understand the risk of not getting anything because they don't get according to what was expected, or not the same as what streamers get.

Biggest mistake is actually gambler himself who fails to control himself and cannot resist the temptation of wanting to gamble when watching various broadcasts of gambling sessions carried out by streamers.
Those who are streamers use various methods to attract gamblers to follow what they do with the aim of making money, but there is no coercion or invitation to gamble so that if something bad happens to gambler then it is his own fault.
Indeed, watching gambling broadcasts with various successes and big wins is very interesting and can even give gamblers feeling of confidence that they will be able to get similar wins.
However, this is the starting point for mistakes that can cause various complicated problems and gamblers must be able to realize this and be willing to think little more clearly that they are not streamers who can win easily at any time.
An accomplished gambler can only increase his chances with predictions and strategies but this is not guaranteed, it is clearly different from streamer who makes various efforts to get big win.
After all, no streamer will broadcast his defeat and this is one of the things have to think about when see streamer who always wins.

[iv4n]

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Another sad story, I guess that's why there's never enough talk about responsible gambling. People, especially young people, need to know how dangerous gambling is if they have no control over it.

And as for streamers they are here to stay. There will always be people like this streamer, and there will always be platforms for them to share this kind of content. I don't think it's just gambling, there are a lot of streamers that have toxic content, I don't support and don't follow any streamers, but that's the "new normal". They are making a lot of money and people watch them. If people don't follow and watch them, they won't even exist.

[_act_]

Another sad story, I guess that's why there's never enough talk about responsible gambling. People, especially young people, need to know how dangerous gambling is if they have no control over it.

This may not be possible to everyone because not everyone are not greedy and able to control the way they are gambling and be gambling in a responsible way. Some people will see gambling as a way to make money and prefer to just have that mentality and using it to gamble. They will think they can make money from gambling and that will drive them to gamble to make money but instead they will be losing and thinking that they will recover back the loss which is just an addiction. This is a sad story but what is more sad about it is that this will not be the last.