Friends engaging on P2P gambling insights grudges amongst themselves

[Baofeng]

It's competition between two, so what you do expect? specially friends who have known each other so there will be a lot of trash talking and what not. And for sure, they want to beat each other, in a P2P battle.

Its OK to have the competition, to have a fight and express the emotions with the casinos where they are playing the P2P. After the game, they should be back to normal friends and walk out of the casino happily. If the tension between them continues even after they leave the casino, then it is something not expected of them.

Yes, that's what I'm expecting to my friends as well, even in a pick up games, let's say NBA and there are money on the line which usually does, we tend to become competitive and we forget that we are friends.

And it wouldn't be a good game if you treat him as friends and allow him to win isn't it? Just leave the tension behind after and stay cool with each them. Been with this kind of games before and I never encounter not even friends that keep the emotions after the game itself. Be just a sport and that's it.

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[Mahanton]

It's competition between two, so what you do expect? specially friends who have known each other so there will be a lot of trash talking and what not. And for sure, they want to beat each other, in a P2P battle.

Its OK to have the competition, to have a fight and express the emotions with the casinos where they are playing the P2P. After the game, they should be back to normal friends and walk out of the casino happily. If the tension between them continues even after they leave the casino, then it is something not expected of them.

Yes, that's what I'm expecting to my friends as well, even in a pick up games, let's say NBA and there are money on the line which usually does, we tend to become competitive and we forget that we are friends.

And it wouldn't be a good game if you treat him as friends and allow him to win isn't it? Just leave the tension behind after and stay cool with each them. Been with this kind of games before and I never encounter not even friends that keep the emotions after the game itself. Be just a sport and that's it.

Be something to be a responsible bettor on which i dont see any solid reasons on why you would really be coming up that far in speaking about those kind of approach when it comes to gambling on where
you would really be able to make those kind of arguments in together with your friends. If those kind of talkings and bashings would really be just that some sort of friendly approach and doesnt really
cross up any line when it comes to rights or right treatment then it should be find but we do know that things turns out to be personal and this could really happen.

This is one of the main reasons that if you do saw that you are really that highly reactive when it comes to those things then it would be better that you should really be that betting on your own
rather than on having some company or your friends that you do bet together on. This is why it would really be better that you should be betting on your own solo.
You wont really be having those potential problems.

[DabsPoorVersion]

It's competition between two, so what you do expect? specially friends who have known each other so there will be a lot of trash talking and what not. And for sure, they want to beat each other, in a P2P battle.

Its OK to have the competition, to have a fight and express the emotions with the casinos where they are playing the P2P. After the game, they should be back to normal friends and walk out of the casino happily. If the tension between them continues even after they leave the casino, then it is something not expected of them.

Yes, that's what I'm expecting to my friends as well, even in a pick up games, let's say NBA and there are money on the line which usually does, we tend to become competitive and we forget that we are friends.

And it wouldn't be a good game if you treat him as friends and allow him to win isn't it? Just leave the tension behind after and stay cool with each them. Been with this kind of games before and I never encounter not even friends that keep the emotions after the game itself. Be just a sport and that's it.

That's the most important thing. As long as both parties stay cool even with the complete opposite sides of the bet, then it's fine. Being sports is what everyone should think, both sides should also know how to receive trash talk that after the game, all is well, whatever happens, is just to heat the game. More like there's no deep meaning to everything you said.

If ever your friend thinks bad about it, and he even says something while you are playing, then it is not a good thing to play with that friend anymore.

[Z390]

Gambling and friendship should not be mixed. The relationship between gamblers and each other is that of opponents, you may lose your friendship status at the poker table, but outside the table, you can continue that friendship. If a friend is not ready to lose in p2p betting? So can restraint make the game fun for all participants involved???

If you don't want to damage friendships or the like, it's better not to gamble against friends. Feelings of shyness are what make friendships unattractive. That's why I choose to gamble against other people on online platforms, rather than having to gamble against my own friends.

Have I never gambled against friends??? I do that very often... and our bets are not money, but more likely to be regular food or maybe drinks or small items just for fun... the amount doesn't matter, what matters is the atmosphere.

Your advice is not bad at all, if you don't want to break the chain of friendship its better not to gamble, but I can't help but remember how my friends and I used to place bet on games among us, both local and other and we have never quarell about it, but there is a part that might be contributing to why we never had any fight, we never risk a lot of money, its always small amount, the type for buying lollipop or some candies.
Games or gamble among friends are fun when what's on the table is not very alarming, I am talking about the amount at stake, lesser money equals to less fear and less panic, how will anyone enjoy a game or have a great time if they are risking too much? They won't be able to focus on the game and they won't have a great time either.

If you are in the midst of friends that want to gamble, you must not accept with them when they want to risk high amount of money, its almost impossible that everyone will be fine with that amount, unless you are all millionaires, you all should know what's big and what's small in your capacities.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Gambling and friendship should not be mixed. The relationship between gamblers and each other is that of opponents, you may lose your friendship status at the poker table, but outside the table, you can continue that friendship. If a friend is not ready to lose in p2p betting? So can restraint make the game fun for all participants involved???

If you don't want to damage friendships or the like, it's better not to gamble against friends. Feelings of shyness are what make friendships unattractive. That's why I choose to gamble against other people on online platforms, rather than having to gamble against my own friends.

Have I never gambled against friends??? I do that very often... and our bets are not money, but more likely to be regular food or maybe drinks or small items just for fun... the amount doesn't matter, what matters is the atmosphere.

Well this is delicade, even my best friend and I bet against each other to see who is the best, but that doesn't hurt the friendship between us, in fact it has always been like that, since we played play statiom since we were in high school We were like that, even in a chess tournament we always face each other, then those things are normal rivalries, I think some people should mature that type of feeling, of course when I win or he wins neither one makes fun of the other and that reaction seems like If it were very professional, in the same way we do not mix anything personal when we face each other, that is only the best and I would say that it is close to the sports spirit.

We in the casino and in any game must learn to be very gentlemanly, we must not make fun of, or feel superior to anyone, because the game takes many turns, and that is something we must always consider, there is nothing better than when we have to When two friends face each other in a game or in a sport, they respect each other and accept defeat and victory respectively. This happens a lot in sports, even in contact sports.

[Betwrong]

Have you ever been in the situation of asking your friend (s) to go down with you on a P2P gambling just between you as friends?
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I was. Several years ago two of my friends, professional poker players at time, visited me and since there's a beach near where I live we decided to go there and I suggested to play poker there, just for fun. I had this cheap Texas hold 'em kit, similar to this one



and I took it with me on the beach. We spent several hours there, but none of them ever mentioned the game, and it was obvious that neither of them wanted to play, even "for fun", and I wasn't insisting either. So, that's how it went.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Misunderstandings resulting from p2p gambling(as called or termed it) is nothing new, but I would actually say it's very common amongst friends, I remember back in the day, I had some friends and we constantly on daily basis, used to play a card game called whot whot, it was an interesting card game that can be played by two or more persons, up to six actually.
We used to play without staking any money, and even at this, sometimes, we usually have to end the game with a quarrel between one or two persons who feel or felt they were cheated or simply agree due to their bad luck, but after this whole thing, we all still never stop being friends.

And some point, we eventually started staking some money small amount of money, and I remember it resulted to a serious fight one day, because the two other players accused the over all winner for cheating, that resulted to them fighting, but later on, the issue was settled and we all continued as friends, but we eventually had to stop p2p gambling with funds staking, we just started playing for free and fun.

So, in essence, p2p gambling will always bring some misunderstanding between friends, but if those friends have a strong bonds, those misunderstandings won't or shouldn't separate them, rather it can only make their bond even more stronger.

[passwordnow]

You shouldn't gamble against your friends but you should gamble with them. I've done that and it's normal in our neighborhood when most of us are fans of specific sports or when there's the hype for that particular sport and it's making rounds on that moment. Well, with our neighborhood, there's no grudge for each other and if someone loses, we just poke at each other and tells that we're going to do better and it ends there. That's why if you can't take the heat of gambling against your friends, you shouldn't do it because you'll never know even if you are the kindest person and the friend of yours have something on his attitude, you'll have hard time to adjust but you befriended him while he's like that.
So, the same goes for the card games and it's also quite a norm to play with your friends but betting with money that you can't afford to lose, there's gotta be a problem that will develop soon with that. When you guys decided to gamble, gamble only with the money that no matter what happens, there will be no grudge with all of you. If it's better, do some promises or even contracts that if someone losses, no returning back of those lost money.

[Wiwo]

So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

He do not want to lose then why did he gamble? Or let me say he do not want to lose 30% of the $190, then why did he gamble with the 30%. 30% of $190 is $57. He could have just gambled with $133 or lesser than that. If he won his friend, what tendency that he will even give the $10 back? No tendency. I will prefer not to gamble with a friend but if I did, I will not give him even 1 cent back.

What is need to gamble if he haven't made up his mind to lose,  the friend is so kind to have given that $10 at the end of the day, the question he should have asked is, if he had gamble in an online casinos or physical casino will he have hard the option of getting a tip after he have lost?

Best thing for him is to just walk away and be thankful to the friend that won his money that is willing to give him some tp at least he will have some left over to gamble again or save as pocket money and bear the pain until he is recovered and learnt the lesson never to gamble with an amount he can't afford to lose.

[AmoreJaz]

So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

He do not want to lose then why did he gamble? Or let me say he do not want to lose 30% of the $190, then why did he gamble with the 30%. 30% of $190 is $57. He could have just gambled with $133 or lesser than that. If he won his friend, what tendency that he will even give the $10 back? No tendency. I will prefer not to gamble with a friend but if I did, I will not give him even 1 cent back.

What is need to gamble if he haven't made up his mind to lose,  the friend is so kind to have given that $10 at the end of the day, the question he should have asked is, if he had gamble in an online casinos or physical casino will he have hard the option of getting a tip after he have lost?

Best thing for him is to just walk away and be thankful to the friend that won his money that is willing to give him some tp at least he will have some left over to gamble again or save as pocket money and bear the pain until he is recovered and learnt the lesson never to gamble with an amount he can't afford to lose.

In this case, the amount is not big enough, so for me, the decision to return is not that hard. But if you talk about 1000 bucks or more, I believe the person may think hard before returning it. At least, his friend returned something. Because if you bet even with your friends, do you really expect to get something afterwards even if you lose your bet? This is not the case when you are inside a casino. You can't tell the site that they need to return something from what you wagered, right?

On this situation, clearly, the friend who lost didn't have the sportsmanship virtue. Why would you expect to get something if you really lost the bet? It will only happen if you are indeed friends, but if not, don't anticipate that the winner will give back some portion of it.

[Findingnemo]

Gambling is gambling, win or lose one who involved must accept it and mocking part is just part of bully that associated with natural behaviour of that friends while the important thing is the one who lost seeks compensation in terms of what? Is that what he did when he lost money on a casino right? Then rules are rules and there is no place for sentiments in it.

[Mauser]

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

I agree with you, it's not nice when you try to profit of your friends and I would even say that it's not a serious friendship. Gambling is fun and if you are just looking for some action to have a good time, I can understand that, but it shouldn't go so far that you are trying to make money of your friend. This is especially the case with skill-based games where one player has an advantage over the others. In my case I do gamble with friends sometimes, but only with very small stakes that never hurt anybody. During our poker nights we usually have a buyin of 5 USD, which keeps the game interesting and doesn't let you feel bad when you lose. The other form of gambling we have is when watching some sport matches, we like to bet on the outcome for one beer. Again, it doesn't really hurt if you have to pay for a beer of your friend and it makes the game a bit more interesting. I would always prefer to wager for some physical things, like drinks or food then betting money. Among friends’ money should never be an option as it will only lead to anger and could ruin a friendship in the worst case.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

The guy is really a very good guy to even return a dime to his friend, after all, there was no rule defining any refund policy before the engagement, or was there one??. He Forgets one thing, which is that at that point, the funds no longer belongs to him, but his friend. Now, if he gambled online and lost the funds to a casino, would he go back to instruct the casino on how much to refund to him?. Of course not, so let him accept his fate ave stop acting like an over grown baby.

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

Daylight extortion you say?.
Was he forced to gamble?.
Why did he involve funds that he's not willing to lose in the gambling act?.
Honestly bro, these your judgment is based on pure sentiments. In the streets you take risks, and those risks you take, be sure and ready to bear the consequences,  you don't do something expecting a pattern of response from another person, unless its previously agreed upon, with a third party as a witness, else you're entirely on your own with your expectations.

[Solosanz]

You shouldn't gamble against your friends but you should gamble with them. I've done that and it's normal in our neighborhood when most of us are fans of specific sports or when there's the hype for that particular sport and it's making rounds on that moment. Well, with our neighborhood, there's no grudge for each other and if someone loses, we just poke at each other and tells that we're going to do better and it ends there. That's why if you can't take the heat of gambling against your friends, you shouldn't do it because you'll never know even if you are the kindest person and the friend of yours have something on his attitude, you'll have hard time to adjust but you befriended him while he's like that.
So, the same goes for the card games and it's also quite a norm to play with your friends but betting with money that you can't afford to lose, there's gotta be a problem that will develop soon with that. When you guys decided to gamble, gamble only with the money that no matter what happens, there will be no grudge with all of you. If it's better, do some promises or even contracts that if someone losses, no returning back of those lost money.

Yep, in order to make a lot friends, you need to become one of them or support them instead of against them. In business it's really important to have a lot relations, don't make enemies even though it's your competitor, try to collaboration with them.

In normal friendship, it's also important to have a lot relations, maybe they could help us in the future.

Ruining your relationship because of gambling, is really stupid IMO.

[Zigabel]

I see the other guy as been generous enough and that his friend instead of expressing disappointment, he should be glad he's friend was still kind enough to still fix him some funds because if it were to be at the casino he can be sure not to get my form of compensation again rather he would loose all that he lost totally and that would be the end without any compensation but he's friend was actually kind enough so he would get something to still fall back to after loosing everything, if her were to be in the shoes of his friend would he have done same? That should be the question he should put to himself before seeing he's friend as a bad fellow.

Some persons will actually not do what they want others to do for them and more sadly they won't be great full even at that which is actually the sad part of the whole thing,  that guy is actually ungrateful in my point of view because in gambling what ever you loose you only recover it by winning back so if you get compensated after losses you should be great full.

[MainIbem]

If I can recall correctly there is not wickedness within them let say if someone gamble and it turns out that there is no winning why on earth would he asked for a refund, okay, let us just assumed they gambled on a website and it happens he lost would he in any day go ask the gambling to make him a refund?

This is not possible because we know that there is no refund after bet and even if there will be refund it should on a friendly manner and maybe he felt so puttied and decided to refund him some percentage even as that the loser must not asked a specific amount except the winner wishes to give out amount that he wants to otherwise I don't see where such game is being played. However is there no boardman someone who is in charge of taking the funds into his hands?

[qwertyup23]

This is why I don't want to gamble in real P2P, but if my friend keep forcing me, I will ask him to bet as low as possible or bet on ridiculous stuff e.g. candy, snack etc.

It's nothing new for the losers keep complaining about their losses, just like many users in this forum who create fake accusation even though they're loss and broke the rules. That's why third party is needed here.

I agree with your statement.

Bringing your friend in a gambling establishment CAN be a good idea but it can quickly backfire since money here is involved. Another thing, if you also bring your friend along, they may offer you some cash or loan to continue your habits. But that loan/cash comes with a conditional requirement that you have to fulfill. Not to mention, if you won using their money, they would definitely feel entitled to receive at least 50% of the total prize you just won.

In conclusion, having a friend/companion with you can be a good idea if you want to bring someone along to tag or to accompany you. But other than that, the risks are just too great for you to experience and expect financial problems to be involved in the process.

[Oilacris]

This is why I don't want to gamble in real P2P, but if my friend keep forcing me, I will ask him to bet as low as possible or bet on ridiculous stuff e.g. candy, snack etc.

It's nothing new for the losers keep complaining about their losses, just like many users in this forum who create fake accusation even though they're loss and broke the rules. That's why third party is needed here.

I agree with your statement.

Bringing your friend in a gambling establishment CAN be a good idea but it can quickly backfire since money here is involved. Another thing, if you also bring your friend along, they may offer you some cash or loan to continue your habits. But that loan/cash comes with a conditional requirement that you have to fulfill. Not to mention, if you won using their money, they would definitely feel entitled to receive at least 50% of the total prize you just won.

In conclusion, having a friend/companion with you can be a good idea if you want to bring someone along to tag or to accompany you. But other than that, the risks are just too great for you to experience and expect financial problems to be involved in the process.

That do really sucks on that case on which if ever you have some winning making use of your friends money even if its borrowed or been loaned and you are entitled to give out 50% of the winning?
Thats too fuck up on that case and there would really be that those argumentation in between parties if thats the current dealing or terms but if you are someone whose really that loving to make
bets and having no money then you wont really be having no choice but to deal up with those kind of arrangement on which we do know that this is something not really that fair at all
no matter what angle you would really be tending to look upon. This is where gaps and those grudges would be mold up on the time that these kind of taking advantage situation
do really happens.

[inthelongrun]

Gambling is gambling, win or lose one who involved must accept it and mocking part is just part of bully that associated with natural behaviour of that friends while the important thing is the one who lost seeks compensation in terms of what? Is that what he did when he lost money on a casino right? Then rules are rules and there is no place for sentiments in it.

Which is why I prefer it on sports betting sites to avoid issues on p2p betting. I am into p2p betting before for more than a decade. Many times I bet against my friends and there are really times that some of them are not willing to pay accordingly. It is really harder to collect winnings on p2p unless you only bet against people that are reliable.

Mocking are just words and is normal and I have no problem with it as long as it is nothing beyond personal. People who can't take a joke should just stay away then. The same also to people that mocked with personal intentions.

[Zlantann]

Guess what, after all he ended up returning $10 to his friend.
So I ask, did the friend do well in returning $10 to his friend or the returned $10 was not enough?

To me, in general, that seems wickedness of gambling between friends on a P2P because such friends are not worthy to be trusted considering the sentiments in playing to win.
I would say that is a daylight extortions amongst each others.

There is no refund in gambling because there is an unwritten agreement between physical gamblers to engage in this risky game. The other gambler who is asking for a refund is immature and should stop gambling. I am sure he wouldn't have given his friend any refund if he was the winner. The other one has a good heart and should be commended. However, it is better to gamble at a casino than gamble with friends because it could lead to some disagreements.

I have never played P2P gambling with friends and I don't recommend it to anyone. It seems to me that if you play against a friend in such games, you are no longer friends. You can play different games with friends, but not for money and not for bets, but just for fun, so that neither of you will feel bad if you lose. Money can damage friendship, and no amount of money can compensate for the loss of friends.

Some friends see gambling with each other face-to-face as normal. I used to follow a friend to gamble with his other friends and he has never engaged in any alterations because his friends are mature and responsible gamblers. I also observed that one of the reasons why they meet is because they enjoy this form of gambling. As they are playing, they are talking, drinking, smoking, and jesting and the place is just lively and enjoyable. But like you said it is not good to gamble with friends who are immature gamblers or don't understand gambling.