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[Shishir99]

For the case of BC.Game, I remember somewhere last year when majority of the complaints in the scam board was about them, some community users argued the following:
1. BC.Game was growing massively, that it wasn't strange for them to lead in the statistics of complaints, because they receive most traffic.
2. Some said the attack might be from alleged competitors.
It has been long I followed up the scam accusation board, I don't have a fair knowledge of what is happening there now.

Most scam accusations against BC game involve not receiving funds, even though they were marked as paid on the website. Also, users' deposits were not credited. The issue is affecting Indian users who make transactions in fiat. It's been over a year now since these issues started to appear, BC game did almost nothing to fix it. Holydarkness was solving these cases while BC Game cooperated with him.

The BC game refused to cooperate with him anymore, and I believe this is the end for the BC game victims. The players are not getting any help from their official support team. There will be a time when people will start tagging BC game.

[LEVSKI7]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitz.io?stars=1
SCAM

[Taricoins]

For the case of BC.Game, I remember somewhere last year when majority of the complaints in the scam board was about them, some community users argued the following:
1. BC.Game was growing massively, that it wasn't strange for them to lead in the statistics of complaints, because they receive most traffic.
2. Some said the attack might be from alleged competitors.
It has been long I followed up the scam accusation board, I don't have a fair knowledge of what is happening there now.

Most scam accusations against BC game involve not receiving funds, even though they were marked as paid on the website. Also, users' deposits were not credited. The issue is affecting Indian users who make transactions in fiat. It's been over a year now since these issues started to appear, BC game did almost nothing to fix it. Holydarkness was solving these cases while BC Game cooperated with him.

The BC game refused to cooperate with him anymore, and I believe this is the end for the BC game victims. The players are not getting any help from their official support team. There will be a time when people will start tagging BC game.

I read some of the cases but never actually taught it would get to the point when they will just ignore all pending issues just because of the lack of communication or should I say they were probably just ignorant of the cases. Bc game is one of the few casino I still use till date though and haven't gotten any issues but if they can handle such cases in a market space that is very broad in gambling then it most certainly will resurface again anytime soon in the future.

[Mrbluntzy]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitz.io?stars=1
SCAM

Scam? Where's there was an explanation made by the team already concerning the issue. Do you think that a casino that wants to scam you will refund your initial deposit?

Based on the reviews from customers that I was reading on trust pilot, so many of them made good comment about bitz and you can read for yourself what I got there.

Customers generally appreciate the user experience, finding the platform well-designed and easy to navigate, even on mobile devices. Many also highlight the smooth operation and the variety of game options available.

The serious complain I saw from a users named Anzhela was talking about how Bitz locked her account and accused her of arbitrage gambling but Bitz responded and has refunded the initial deposit of this user since the person cheated. A casino that wants to scam you will not refund the money. If you are that user, the casino already gave a response to your complain and I don't believe that a casino that has paid out so many win will want to scam you of just $300+, that's too cheap mate.

[Odusko]

The serious complaint I saw from a user named Anzhela was about how Bitz locked her account and accused her of arbitrage gambling but Bitz responded and has refunded the initial deposit of this user since the person cheated. A casino that wants to scam you will not refund the money. If you are that user, the casino already gave a response to your complain and I don't believe that a casino that has paid out so many wins will want to scam you out of just $300+, that's too cheap mate.

Justifiable for casinos that refund customers deposit balance in case of accounts blockage is something that is welcome and show alot of reputation far away from scam as a casino so the guy calling bitz scam is something that is out of basis and no one will take that seriously, also mind checking the guy feedback he got red trust already so that speak alot about whatever he is saying.

[khaled0111]

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I asked because most casinos that are fraudulent have been banned from this forum whereas I've not come across any punishment for people who play the victims against casinos whereas they're the ones at fault.

As far as I know, no casino or any other service provider has been banned on this forum because of cheating or scamming and that’s mainly because scams are not moderated on bitcointalk. However, the forum admin can ban them from advertising their services but he is unlikely to ban their accounts.
When it comes to users falsely accusing casinos of cheating then, unfortunately, there isn’t much that can be done except to distrust them, challenge them and expose their lies.

[ptaylor78]

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That’s why we need to hear from both parties and make sure we are fully informed about all the details before making a judgment.

Unfortunately, I have noticed that many users immediately side with the accuser (the user) without waiting for the other party to present its side of the story and what usually makes things even worse is the accused party (the casino) remaining silent.
Besides, many members lack the necessary experience to make an informed judgment. So it’s better to wait for more experienced members to give their stance, especially on complicated cases.

Valid points you make...

I actually find it absolutely hysterical that some forum members in this Bitz ANN and elsewhere, who have no legal or mediation training (and sometimes not even common sense about how casinos, TOS, or responsible gambling obligations work), and who cannot even take 15 minutes to use tools like ChatGPT, Claude, or other AI to better understand the issues, somehow believe they know better than independent mediators like Casino Guru or AskGamblers. These mediators actually have the knowledge and experience, and they collected and reviewed evidence from both parties before reaching their conclusions.

I do believe the Scam Accusations board has more knowledgeable members who are actually capable of reviewing evidence, asking questions, and understanding the substance of a dispute. That stands in contrast to those who see the phrase “player requested refund from casino” and immediately default to the simplistic conclusion that it must always be a player scam or an attempt to abuse the casino.

Honestly, some people would be better off sticking to making their small wagers on sports and enjoying participation in signature campaigns rather than offering opinions on matters they are not even in a position to understand or evaluate.

[Taskford]

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I asked because most casinos that are fraudulent have been banned from this forum whereas I've not come across any punishment for people who play the victims against casinos whereas they're the ones at fault.

As far as I know, no casino or any other service provider has been banned on this forum because of cheating or scamming and that’s mainly because scams are not moderated on bitcointalk. However, the forum admin can ban them from advertising their services but he is unlikely to ban their accounts.
When it comes to users falsely accusing casinos of cheating then, unfortunately, there isn’t much that can be done except to distrust them, challenge them and expose their lies.

Nope they are not interfering on that situation, since they maintain their stance that they won't interfere any situation happening in this forum. Everything is community driven and its good that there are lots of people helps to tag those well known scam casinos.

1xbit is one of good example in this matters and I don't think that this casino can still scam people here in Bitcointalk, because their reputation is already been destroyed and many people knows those scams they have done to those people playing in their casino.

[bitmover]

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That’s why we need to hear from both parties and make sure we are fully informed about all the details before making a judgment.

Unfortunately, I have noticed that many users immediately side with the accuser (the user) without waiting for the other party to present its side of the story and what usually makes things even worse is the accused party (the casino) remaining silent.
Besides, many members lack the necessary experience to make an informed judgment. So it’s better to wait for more experienced members to give their stance, especially on complicated cases.

I need you to clarify me on something, what's the fate of the accuser if they're found guilty of lying against a casino (the accused) do they go unpunished if found guilty of lying or cheating a casino then try to drag them here?
 I asked because most casinos that are fraudulent have been banned from this forum whereas I've not come across any punishment for people who play the victims against casinos whereas they're the ones at fault.

Casinos (or any other service) doesnt get banned from the forum because they are fraudulent
 Moderators do not Moderate fraudulent content, this is what community does using the DT (trust) system.

Mixers were banned but for other reasons, not because they are fraudulent but because of forum policy

[lodocus]

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That’s why we need to hear from both parties and make sure we are fully informed about all the details before making a judgment.

Unfortunately, I have noticed that many users immediately side with the accuser (the user) without waiting for the other party to present its side of the story and what usually makes things even worse is the accused party (the casino) remaining silent.
Besides, many members lack the necessary experience to make an informed judgment. So it’s better to wait for more experienced members to give their stance, especially on complicated cases.

If there is any complaint, it is absolutely important to wait for both parties to fully explain themselves and form your judgment accordingly. On the forum, promotions and advertisements are organized for many casinos, and scam complaints are reported for many of them. No one can can which of them are true and which are not.

Even if one side remains silent, it may not always mean that the complaining party is right, because fake complaints can be made repeatedly against a casino in the form of spam. No one can keep up with these. Therefore, when it looks like there is a real problem, you should never make a quick decision.

[Cyber_warrior]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitz.io?stars=1
SCAM

Scam? Where's there was an explanation made by the team already concerning the issue. Do you think that a casino that wants to scam you will refund your initial deposit?

Based on the reviews from customers that I was reading on trust pilot, so many of them made good comment about bitz and you can read for yourself what I got there.

Why are bothered about a trolling account that probably has issues and trying to tarnish the image of the casino by posting without any real proof. I went through his profile and the account already negative tagged for accusing multiple casinos for scam so maybe Bitz is just one of the victims. I don't think many people will believe a newbie account that didn't drop much proof after some accusations. And you're right a casino that wants to scam will never refund any money.
Checked the reviews as well and all seem to be well with users posting reviews. I am sure if there is an issue the team will attend to the issue as fast as possible and resolve everything amicably.

[Mrbluntzy]

The serious complaint I saw from a user named Anzhela was about how Bitz locked her account and accused her of arbitrage gambling but Bitz responded and has refunded the initial deposit of this user since the person cheated. A casino that wants to scam you will not refund the money. If you are that user, the casino already gave a response to your complain and I don't believe that a casino that has paid out so many wins will want to scam you out of just $300+, that's too cheap mate.

Justifiable for casinos that refund customers deposit balance in case of accounts blockage is something that is welcome and show alot of reputation far away from scam as a casino so the guy calling bitz scam is something that is out of basis and no one will take that seriously, also mind checking the guy feedback he got red trust already so that speak alot about whatever he is saying.

The last casino I had an encounter with in a few weeks ago was an exit scam and it went down with gamblers money, the honest truth is that scam casino are very tricky and not straight forward, but I have not seen so many people making complaints about bitz, this guy that is complaining is even lucky that his deposit was returned back, I don't think it's all casino that would be lenient enough to return a gamblers deposit after the person has broke their rule.

[Alpha Marine]

This problem makes scam accusation board hard to follow most of the time since most of the complainants are abusers that manipulating their story to create a fake scam story against the casino.

And this makes it difficult for the community to assist people who may have actual, genuine cases. When most of the accusations are coming from people who want to exploit the system, it's the genuine ones that suffer
I was reading a thread in the scam accusation board yesterday, and I saw a case where the person couldn't state exactly how much his total deposit is, and he couldn't provide proof of his claim. Those two factors doesnt mean he's lying, but because of how people have abused the system, it was difficult to believe him.
This won't stop any time soon, though. There will always be dubious people, and in all these, the actual scam victims suffer the most.

[hd49728]

This problem makes scam accusation board hard to follow most of the time since most of the complainants are abusers that manipulating their story to create a fake scam story against the casino.

It's how life is and the accusation board is like the real world with real and fake news, so there are valid scam accusations and invalid scam accusations. Invalid scam accusations should not be reasons of remove the scam accusation board, or it's not reasonable reason to restrict newbie accounts posting scam accusations in that board.

People can be honest users who have problems with any casino and find this forum by searching, then creating their newbie account for complaints, scam accusation threads. They're welcome and we should never restrict newbies just because many newbies post invalid accusations.

And this makes it difficult for the community to assist people who may have actual, genuine cases. When most of the accusations are coming from people who want to exploit the system, it's the genuine ones that suffer

Mostly cases have to be investigated and concluded by casinos as only them have enough internal data about their users. We as members in this forum community don't have access to such data and casinos even are not allowed to publish full data, information about any user as they have to comply with regulations on personal data for example GDPR.

[mitchr4]

This problem makes scam accusation board hard to follow most of the time since most of the complainants are abusers that manipulating their story to create a fake scam story against the casino.

And this makes it difficult for the community to assist people who may have actual, genuine cases. When most of the accusations are coming from people who want to exploit the system, it's the genuine ones that suffer
I was reading a thread in the scam accusation board yesterday, and I saw a case where the person couldn't state exactly how much his total deposit is, and he couldn't provide proof of his claim. Those two factors doesnt mean he's lying, but because of how people have abused the system, it was difficult to believe him.
This won't stop any time soon, though. There will always be dubious people, and in all these, the actual scam victims suffer the most.

Many users don't realize that accusing casinos without proof means nothing. If you can't show any evidence, people won't believe that, simple as that. Those who intentionally try to manipulate their story to attack a casino unfairly will only end up embarrassing themselves. As users, we should not easily believe every accusation unless there is clear and strong proof to back it up.

[jcojci]

This won't stop any time soon, though. There will always be dubious people, and in all these, the actual scam victims suffer the most.

Yes, that is why the competition on gambling business is very tight and they will make their competitor falls by making false accusation. But if a casino really take care their business and care to their reputation, they will not makes something suspicious to their members. Services are something that they will manage well because they know that will gives them trust from the members.

[Mandoy]

This won't stop any time soon, though. There will always be dubious people, and in all these, the actual scam victims suffer the most.

Yes, that is why the competition on gambling business is very tight and they will make their competitor falls by making false accusation. But if a casino really take care their business and care to their reputation, they will not makes something suspicious to their members. Services are something that they will manage well because they know that will gives them trust from the members.

You are correct that competition within the gambling sector is extremely stiff, particularly amongst crypto casinos. Due to this the accusations against the rivals are the order of the day and that there are cases of using the accusations to destroy the reputation of another platform. Yet, a casino which is interested in the long-term business will pay attention to developing trust among its users, rather than causing an unnecessary controversy. There are also credibility attributes such as good service, quick withdrawals, clear rules and responsive support. Ultimately, the reputation is established with time, and casinos, which treat their players impartially, are going to win the confidence of the community in spite of the false allegations.

[Alpha Marine]

Yes, that is why the competition on gambling business is very tight and they will make their competitor falls by making false accusation. But if a casino really take care their business and care to their reputation, they will not makes something suspicious to their members. Services are something that they will manage well because they know that will gives them trust from the members.

I've read this before, but I honestly don't believe other casinos make false allegations against their competitors. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I just struggle to believe it. It doesn't make sense to me, however I look at it.
Instead of spending resources to demarket a competitor, they can spend those resources to market themselves. If they want to demarket a casino, that casino is not their only competition, so that means they have to do the same thing for dozens of other casinos. It doesn't make sense. No matter how I look at it, I still struggle to see how a casino can be so petty and go as low as creating false scam accusations against another casino just to take it out of business, which never even happens, so what is their gain in doing that?

[coinrifft]

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I asked because most casinos that are fraudulent have been banned from this forum whereas I've not come across any punishment for people who play the victims against casinos whereas they're the ones at fault.

As far as I know, no casino or any other service provider has been banned on this forum because of cheating or scamming and that’s mainly because scams are not moderated on bitcointalk. However, the forum admin can ban them from advertising their services but he is unlikely to ban their accounts.
When it comes to users falsely accusing casinos of cheating then, unfortunately, there isn’t much that can be done except to distrust them, challenge them and expose their lies.

And what's funny is that those accounts that usually accused casinos are newbies so we really don't know that they have registered just to accused casinos without any proof. Because I don't see old accounts here who might have been playing on other casinos complaining and it's very rare. Only newbie accounts with nothing to say and there are no proof of what they are saying maybe except discrediting casino on their own behest or maybe they really have some intentions behind. But community is not easily fallen for this kind of trick already and most of them are just being ignored.

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