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March 31, 2024, 03:17:47 AM
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I'm still quite giddy being that Craig Wright was deemed to not be Satoshi according to a court of law.  What amazes me about the whole Craig Wright ordeal is that he has/had fooled so many people in to believing it even though he didn't and can't prove it, because well he's not satoshi.  Yet if you visit the BSV reddit or twitter page you'll see that there are actually a good amount of people supporting him even still, which is crazy.


Which goes to show there are a whole lot of stupid people in the world who are easily fooled.
That is why people are still wasting their money on crap like memecoins, NFTs, altcoins, etc.

So many people fall for romance scams, get rich quick schemes, etc. and end up losing their life savings to some scammer in Nigeria or India.

Billions of dollars are lost every year due to greed and stupidity. It never ceases to amaze me how gullible people are.

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March 31, 2024, 03:24:19 AM
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-snip-
speculation: (my thoughts on future maybe's)
seems they want to know how much he says he has, so maybe they can also sue him/charge him criminally for past issues
(EG when CSW funds are locked due to this case, they can quickly sue him and use the lock to ensure he pays future case)
but my dream scenario is they use the information to then take him to criminal court and set a bail amount for millions so that he cant just walk away from a criminal case
A long case, but in the end CSW only ended up with ridiculousness and fines to pay,
otherwise it would be criminal charges that would lead him further into the matter.

But I like the scenario you think, there has to be an emphasis on the amount of bail set so that he can't leave this criminal case peacefully, he really has to account for it.

Ever since I entered the crypto space, I have always been bombarded with news that CSW is Satoshi and openly claimed.
In 2015 after Wired and Gizmodo magazine raised the possibility of him being Nakamoto in a December 2015 article,
he was linked to the news about the real Satoshi, and it became his motivation to continue doxing that he was the real Satoshi, even though he was just a liar.

https://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

 
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March 31, 2024, 08:01:56 AM
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Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.
I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.

In fact, I think that he should be pushed to the very end. He needs to pay every last penny for the damage done to individuals and the community, and possibly deserves a substantial prison sentence for falsifying evidence, perjury, and more.

He is a scammer and should be punished for his crimes so that he can be an example to others.

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March 31, 2024, 09:02:38 AM
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speculation: (my thoughts on future maybe's)
seems they want to know how much he says he has, so maybe they can also sue him/charge him criminally for past issues
(EG when CSW funds are locked due to this case, they can quickly sue him and use the lock to ensure he pays future case)
but my dream scenario is they use the information to then take him to criminal court and set a bail amount for millions so that he cant just walk away from a criminal case
They should take him to the criminal court because if he gets left without punishment, then many people will abuse the system. It's idiotic that Craig Wright was able to waste so many years in court because. This is definitely the result of a loophole in the law. Because of this stupidity, Cobra had to remove Bitcoin whitepaper from bitcoin.org for UK people.

Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/
Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).


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March 31, 2024, 05:15:13 PM
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IMO, the most important part has already happened. Namely, quoting the court document the op shared,
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COPA had established that Dr Wright was not Satoshi Nakamoto and had not been the creator of Bitcoin and the early materials.
That's a great judgement, and I'm really happy that the COPA managed to prove it in court (as they were the ones who had to prove Craig was fake, so if they simply hadn't had enough evidence, Craig would've won the case).
The rest, it seems, it about getting Craig to cover the cost of the trial, which amounts to £6 million. The judge recommends freezing Craigs assets to make sure the transfer will happen, and Craig is perhaps trying to evade.

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March 31, 2024, 11:22:04 PM
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Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.
by losing the case, he has to pay the lawyers costs of COPA, so they want to know his financial position (possibility of being paid £6.7m($8.5m))

12. Understandably, that gave rise to serious concerns on COPA’s part that Dr Wright was
implementing measures to seek to evade the costs consequences of his loss at trial.
I think he has already said he has millions because I saw in today's news headline that "U.K. court freezes £6M of Craig Wright’s assets amid Bitcoin creator claim"



Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.
I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.
Yes, we know Craig Wright is not Satoshi but what I don't understand is his real motive and the reason why he still has to lie under oath multiple times when he fully knows he can't win.
The question I always ask myself is that he's trying to be popular even though that's the fact there are ways to be popular rather than doing it dubiously.

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April 01, 2024, 08:16:34 AM
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IMO, the most important part has already happened. Namely, quoting the court document the op shared,
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COPA had established that Dr Wright was not Satoshi Nakamoto and had not been the creator of Bitcoin and the early materials.


That's a great judgement, and I'm really happy that the COPA managed to prove it in court (as they were the ones who had to prove Craig was fake, so if they simply hadn't had enough evidence, Craig would've won the case).
The rest, it seems, it about getting Craig to cover the cost of the trial, which amounts to £6 million. The judge recommends freezing Craigs assets to make sure the transfer will happen, and Craig is perhaps trying to evade.


That's probably very relieving for Calvin Ayre, who is said to be paying for everything in the fork of the forked shitcoin Bitcoin Cash SV project. The miners, the website, CoinGeek, the developers, the marketing are all paid with Calvin Ayre's money. I believe one by one they will leave Craig Wright's side and throw him into the fire if the government gos after them for their involvement with a con-artist. Roger Ver was by him fooled once. Nassim Taleb is still being fooled.

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April 01, 2024, 08:36:22 AM
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Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/
Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).

BSV rank is partially because he still have some backing, but it's also true some people are dumb or crazy for buying BSV. Anyway, if he decide to perform confiscation stealing and considering BSV is fork of BCH where BCH is fork of BTC, i bet he'll steal BSV from old address which supposed to be owned by Satoshi to make another false claim that he's Satoshi.

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Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/

Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).


BSV rank is partially because he still have some backing, but it's also true some people are dumb or crazy for buying BSV. Anyway, if he decide to perform confiscation stealing and considering BSV is fork of BCH where BCH is fork of BTC, i bet he'll steal BSV from old address which supposed to be owned by Satoshi to make another false claim that he's Satoshi.


The backing mostly coming from Calvin Ayre which will not be there anymore now that it has been announced that Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi. "Craig Wright = Satoshi" was they're only leverage against the community to fool people into believing that Bitcoin Cash SV is therefore the "real Bitcoin". Calvin Ayre won't be wasting more of his own money on something that will never make him a return on his investment.

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April 02, 2024, 07:47:12 AM
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Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.
by losing the case, he has to pay the lawyers costs of COPA, so they want to know his financial position (possibility of being paid £6.7m($8.5m))

12. Understandably, that gave rise to serious concerns on COPA’s part that Dr Wright was
implementing measures to seek to evade the costs consequences of his loss at trial.
I think he has already said he has millions because I saw in today's news headline that "U.K. court freezes £6M of Craig Wright’s assets amid Bitcoin creator claim"

no the actual court order was to do a international court order to freeze all assets before he could put them into other shell/trust/company names. he nor the court implied CSW has £6m .. however the £6m is the amount he owes the court to pay for the court and COPA costs

CSW insinuated that he would move funds into his sisters name to then suggest CSW had no money and his sister was not on trial so (his) her money should not be touched. which was one of the reasons to do the international freeze of all assets

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Craig Wright is a liar and a thief, and I am so glad that the courts have finally publicly denied his claims of being Satoshi. Despite all manipulative evidence that Craig has brought forward over the years, it was always clear from a perspective of character and attitude that he was not Satoshi. The real Satoshi would never sue early Bitcoin developers for defamation and try to ruin their personal lives. It is honestly disgusting behaviour.
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April 02, 2024, 10:10:22 AM
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The backing mostly coming from Calvin Ayre which will not be there anymore now that it has been announced that Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi. "Craig Wright = Satoshi" was they're only leverage against the community to fool people into believing that Bitcoin Cash SV is therefore the "real Bitcoin". Calvin Ayre won't be wasting more of his own money on something that will never make him a return on his investment.

Do you have source for that statement? I just checked coingeek (BSV propaganda website) and it seems Calvin Arye just write another propaganda yesterday.

P.S. i don't include link since i don't want to give free backlink and bumping their position on google search result.

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Calvin Ayre won't be wasting more of his own money on something that will never make him a return on his investment.

Do you have source for that statement? I just checked coingeek (BSV propaganda website) and it seems Calvin Arye just write another propaganda yesterday.

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1768619693449883862
march 15th

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Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year.  I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.

CA is not writing for BSV, he handed his online accounts to a marketing team

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Calvin Ayre
@CalvinAyre
Founder #AyreGroup and #CoinGeek.com. This account is managed by a social media team to share Enterprise Blockchain news and information.


their latest stupidity and false claim is:

by the judge freezing CSW assets
and those assets being BSV associated
they are again now claiming BSV is bitcoin made by satoshi so pretending the judges freeze of CSW assets is proof of satoshi

they keep forgetting that bsv came into existence in 2018 not 2009

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April 02, 2024, 05:37:23 PM
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Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/
Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).

BSV rank is partially because he still have some backing, but it's also true some people are dumb or crazy for buying BSV. Anyway, if he decide to perform confiscation stealing and considering BSV is fork of BCH where BCH is fork of BTC, i bet he'll steal BSV from old address which supposed to be owned by Satoshi to make another false claim that he's Satoshi.
To be fair, I visited the BitcoinSV website today for the first time and now I am not shocked by the fact that it is popular. People are too lazy to double-check information and BitcoinSV promotes itself like an original Bitcoin, so I am not surprised if many people got trapped by that. On their timeline, it's written that Dr.Craig Wright is the creator of Bitcoin who was using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, then it says that he got very explicit because Bitcoin was used by criminals and it's a very populist statement because people believe that it's used by criminals.

In overall, he is a liar who lies to everyone.

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April 02, 2024, 05:44:51 PM
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Lies are short lived.  Particularly when lies are made on such a big scale.

In the situation of Craig, I wonder how he did not see this coming back when he started the big lie.  He could of even backed out by pretending it was a joke all along, but this could of happened many years ago.  It is too late now.

Unfortunately for him but fortunately for us, he will see the consequence of his actions some day.  Particularly when he offended and tried to taint the reputation of such a large community.

Craig, get yourself ready.  The time for truth may have come, and you will not like it.  In fact.  You never did.

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April 02, 2024, 09:27:26 PM
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HAha, this shit is still ongoing, I was not surprised with the last updates and the narrative he tired to build up, anyway OP thanks for this update as I can discuss this topic with more references while having one on one discussion with the friends and family.

It was already proven that he is indeed not satoshi nakamoto so he has a lot of explaining to do. He will be in even worse trouble if the money he has accumulated came from illegal activities. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes right now.

Ahh, well you know some people likes to stretch the gum for no reason he's probably one of them not probably definitely he's one of them. Haha I can call it open and shut stupidity.

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April 03, 2024, 08:18:35 AM
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they are again now claiming BSV is bitcoin made by satoshi so pretending the judges freeze of CSW assets is proof of satoshi

they keep forgetting that bsv came into existence in 2018 not 2009


That sort of gaslighting will not work anymore. How stupid do they actually believe the community currently is after Craig Wright was condemned by the very people who have revolted, in some way, against Bitcoin. I have come to respect Vitalik Buterin, Marc Andresen, and Roger Ver for saying that Craig is NOT Satoshi. That shows that their hearts are in the right place, although opinions, beliefs, and understanding of things in Bitcoin Land differ.

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In the High Court of Justice Business and Property of England and Wales yesterday COPA which is Crypto Open Patent Alliance the team formed by Square, Inc., Payward Ventures, Inc. (DBA Kraken), Microstrategy, Inc., and Coinbase, Inc.
Submitted a claim that Craig Wright lied and double-down on his lies, on a grand scale that he's Satoshi Nakamoto that he has given extensive and elaborate dishonest evidence under oath in multiple sets of proceedings, and also considers that he (Craig Wright) forged documents, plus changed his story several times.

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.
This is like Craig is putting Himself to be a Nail that the more  he lies is the more he is being hammered down to the smallest inches , and with that for sure realization will come his way after being put in Jail behind bars lol.
and also  How I wish that he will lose everything because of this  lying and stupidity .

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April 03, 2024, 09:22:11 AM
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they are again now claiming BSV is bitcoin made by satoshi so pretending the judges freeze of CSW assets is proof of satoshi

they keep forgetting that bsv came into existence in 2018 not 2009


That sort of gaslighting will not work anymore. How stupid do they actually believe the community currently is after Craig Wright was condemned by the very people who have revolted, in some way, against Bitcoin. I have come to respect Vitalik Buterin, Marc Andresen, and Roger Ver for saying that Craig is NOT Satoshi. That shows that their hearts are in the right place, although opinions, beliefs, and understanding of things in Bitcoin Land differ.

you need to learn alot more about EVERYTHING

gavin andressen wanted to retire from bitcoin.. he said in like 2010-11 that he would only spend 5 more years invovled in bitcoin.... so knowing 2015-16 was his retirement plan he took whatever golden handshake he could find and leave.. knowing his reputation didnt matter
so he took the money to say bullcrap. thinking it would not lead to anything big, and thought the drama would die out in months. so no harm no foul
yes later when he was out of contract he come clean..

R.Ver is a business man and with the troubled of bitinstant debacle he needed to pivot. he didnt intend to create BCH, BCH was created for him via the mandated rejection of old versionbit blocks(via the core sponsores(nya) bait and switch). and so he took that opportunity. and then done a deal with CSW a year later to help break BCH to BSV and was bought into promoting CSW. again for a payday..
even calvin ayres and nguyen and others sponsoring BSV dont truly believe in CSW they are just looking for riches from promoting his schemes with empty promises of huge returns

its obvious no one believed in CSW and then wised up..  but instead they were guided by payouts thinking they can get rich and then CSW drama would kill itself instantly thus not cause long term issues, thus didnt care to promote a nonsense story for a while

even your mentor is not guided by information or proof, nor care for things that actually benefit bitcoiners. he is guided by empty promises of his own possible future riches if he promotes stupid stuff like recruiting people to move to other networks.. as for your motives to ignore actual block data, actual code, actual history, actual things that can benefit bitcoin.. to instead just idolise and trust idiots because they show friendliness(or make promises to you).. well thats your own story to tell one day

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April 03, 2024, 09:29:27 AM
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Calvin Ayre won't be wasting more of his own money on something that will never make him a return on his investment.

Do you have source for that statement? I just checked coingeek (BSV propaganda website) and it seems Calvin Arye just write another propaganda yesterday.

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1768619693449883862
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Good bye everyone.  This is my last post before I take off on an adventure I have been planning for the last year.  I have now handed this account over to a team that will work with the BSV Blockchain Association, London Blockchain conference and other organizations dedicated to educating on how Enterprise Blockchain brings together and completes AI, IoTs, Web 3 and other areas of Big Data.

CA is not writing for BSV, he handed his online accounts to a marketing team

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their latest stupidity and false claim is:

by the judge freezing CSW assets
and those assets being BSV associated
they are again now claiming BSV is bitcoin made by satoshi so pretending the judges freeze of CSW assets is proof of satoshi

they keep forgetting that bsv came into existence in 2018 not 2009

Thank you for the information. It's really deceptive move though, average reader would wrongfully assume it's written by Calvin himself.

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To be fair, I visited the BitcoinSV website today for the first time and now I am not shocked by the fact that it is popular. People are too lazy to double-check information and BitcoinSV promotes itself like an original Bitcoin, so I am not surprised if many people got trapped by that. On their timeline, it's written that Dr.Craig Wright is the creator of Bitcoin who was using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, then it says that he got very explicit because Bitcoin was used by criminals and it's a very populist statement because people believe that it's used by criminals.

In overall, he is a liar who lies to everyone.

Many altcoin or token website have similar appearance or marketing word with BSV website though.

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